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01-21-2009, 06:00 PM
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Any common history in the Bible, Torra, Koran, etc?
I've never read any of these, nor do I know much about them except that they are ancient texts that contain accounts of ancient history.
Then, there must be ancient Chinese texts, as well as others.
-Are there commonalities found amongst these texts regarding history, etc?
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01-21-2009, 08:50 PM
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Considering that The Bible includes the Torah, and the Koran is a rewrite of the Torah, the answer is yes, they have a common history.
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01-21-2009, 09:06 PM
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Right, Torah Sorry bout that.
So basically you're saying that they all emanate from the Bible. So then the Bible is the ultimate accounting of history? What are the fundamental differences?
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01-21-2009, 09:28 PM
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obvious to me, its the question of which books were added/subtracted in the Bible, Torah, Koran
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01-21-2009, 10:25 PM
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Torah is the five books of Moses, and those are included in The Bible's 66 books, along with the rest of the Tanakh ("The Jewish Bible") word for word.
The Koran was written around 610AD, and includes a rewrite of the Torah that is more, shall we say, "Ishmael friendly"
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01-22-2009, 12:20 AM
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Anything written in Asia that corresponds to any of the events in the Bible?
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01-22-2009, 05:16 AM
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I've read that there are flood stories among many other cultures but I can't name the texts.
I just finished a really good book called The Case for the Real Jesus by Lee Strobel and 1 section dealt with the idea that Christianity hijacked other resurrection stories and salvation myths. The claims are unsubstaniated.
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01-22-2009, 09:40 AM
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How could they be substantiated? Do those other texts exist? Dates?
Where else was flooding on such a grand scale reported throughout history?
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01-22-2009, 09:48 AM
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Divine if you are really interested in this subject look into the association of the Abrahamic religions with even older religious traditions like Zoroastronism, Mithra, and Ancient Egiptian religions.
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01-23-2009, 09:39 AM
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I've read that there are flood stories among many other cultures but I can't name the texts.
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have some asian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_S..._Five_Emperors
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Fuxi and Nüwa are respectively the god and goddess, husband and wife credited with being the ancestors of humankind after a devastating flood.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuxi
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According to legend the land was swept by a great flood and only Fuxi and his sister Nüwa survived, leaving all other disappeared and vanished from the surface. They retired to Kunlun Mountain where they prayed for a sign from the Emperor of Heaven. The divine being approved their union and the siblings set about procreating the human race. It was said that in order to speed up the procreation of humans, Fu Xi and Nüwa found an additional way by using clay to create human figures, and with the power divine being entrusted to them, they made the clay figures to come alive. [1] Fu Xi then came to rule over his descendents although reports of his long reign vary between sources from 115 years (BCE 2852-2737) to 116 years (BCE 2952-2836).
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nüwa
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There was a quarrel between two of the more powerful gods, and they decided to settle it with a fight. When the water god Gong Gong saw that he was losing, he smashed his head against Mount Buzhou (不周山), a pillar holding up the sky. The pillar collapsed and caused the sky to tilt towards the northwest and the earth to shift to the southeast. This caused great calamities, such as unending fires, vast floods, and the appearance of fierce man-eating beasts. Nüwa cut off the legs of a giant tortoise and used them to supplant the fallen pillar, alleviating the situation and sealing the broken sky using stones of seven different colours, but she was unable to fully correct the tilted sky. This explains the phenomenon that sun, moon, and stars move towards the northwest, and that rivers in China flow southeast into the Pacific Ocean. (this account is similar to the Huainanzi account; it was added as The Upkeep and Maintenance of Heaven[citation needed] )
Other versions of the story describe Nüwa going up to heaven and filling the gap with her body (half human half serpent) and thus stopping the flood.[citation needed] According to this legend some of the minorities in South-Western China hail Nüwa as their goddess and some festivals such as the 'Water-Splashing Festival' are in part a tribute to her sacrifices.
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01-23-2009, 09:08 PM
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What kind of asian (oriental) are you?
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01-26-2009, 09:56 AM
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zoroastrianism is still practiced, albeit by a tiny group of people. i think probably less than 100,000 worldwide.
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