Can the God of the Bible be real if the Bible isn't exactly literal?

$100T2 · #1 07-13-2008, 08:21 PM

KEEP THIS DISCUSSION REASONABLE AND INTELLIGENT. NO BASHING, NO INSULTS. REMEMBER THE RULES OF THE SECTION.

So, seriously: Can Jesus and his teachings be real, can the word of God be true if the Bible is more of a teaching instrument than the end-all, be-all, no interpretation allowed Word of God???

I'm not going to speak for others here, only for myself: I have a hard time swallowing the Bible as a 100% accurate, totally correct book of history. I don't believe for one second that every human on Earth came from Adam and Eve. Could God have created man? Absolutely. Can every human on earth have come from those two? No way. There is too much variation, not just in blood types, but in other gene functions to allow that. I also don't believe for one second that humans lived to be 700 years old in "the beginning". I also don't think dinosaurs and man lived together at the same time.

I think that if the Bible is true, it isn't accurate: the authors of the Bible took creative license with the stories.

So, can it be possible that God is real, but the Bible is a work of historical fiction?

Misty Rayne · #2 07-13-2008, 08:37 PM

this is why i don't believe in god as such "(i could tell you what i believe but that might get boring) the bible it's self was written 100's of years after the so called facts not at the time Jesus was on earth, they were stories that were passed down til some one wrote them and said it was the Gosple according to who ever the stories came from. i have always believed that the bible was/is the best fiction story ever created. Also if you look at it logically all those that seem to believe in the same god do not read the same bible "(or they do but it is interpreted to suit them)

that is just my opinon

Ark2 · #3 07-13-2008, 08:55 PM

have you read the bible? not flaming, just curious

czarofzar · #4 07-13-2008, 08:56 PM

have you ark?

Ark2 · #5 07-13-2008, 08:58 PM

once, while I was in high school. wasn't really in the right frame of mind at the time

$100T2 · #6 07-13-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ark2

have you read the bible? not flaming, just curious

If that was directed at me, yes.

Misty Rayne · #7 07-13-2008, 09:05 PM

not only have i read the bible my parents forced me to go to church and i went to a catholic college, oh and i also have several books of scriptures on my book shelf

czarofzar · #8 07-13-2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ark2

once, while I was in high school. wasn't really in the right frame of mind at the time

What frame of mind are you talking about?
I read the bible twice when I was born again.

Tofuball · #9 07-14-2008, 07:34 AM

1 Corinthians 15:12-20 (New International Version)

But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men.

But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.

$100T2 · #10 07-14-2008, 11:42 AM

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based on?

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Originally Posted by YZF-R1

based on?

Dude, please: Stop using AIG. I believe your arguments less when you use AIG, simply because of how they fucked up the blood types thing. They don't have an ounce of credibility.

As far as why I don't believe in the 700 years stuff, simple: If we all had those same genes, we'd all be living that long.

Dinosaurs and man: The bones have never been found together. Ever.

$100T2 · #11 07-14-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tofuball

1 Corinthians 15:12-20 (New International Version)

But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men.

But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.

You guys are missing my point. I didn't say that it's not true, I said is it possible for the Bible to be TRUE, just not 100% accurate.

For example: Let's say I said Michael Jordan could jump really, high, like 5 feet straight up. That's true, but not accurate. He can jump really high, just not 5 feet. Follow me?

Tofuball · #12 07-14-2008, 01:43 PM

Yes, but the bible doesn't say Jesus "like" rose from the dead.

Therefore, if it's a pack of lies, it teaches nothing.

The basis is the character of God.

$100T2 · #13 07-14-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tofuball

Yes, but the bible doesn't say Jesus "like" rose from the dead.

Therefore, if it's a pack of lies, it teaches nothing.

The basis is the character of God.

OK, you still aren't wrapping your brain around this.

I'm not saying that yes, it happened or no, it didn't happen, I'm talking TIME FRAME HERE.

God created Earth in six days. OK, in God time. In human time, hundreds of millions of years. God created man. Sure, but maybe more than one set. Humans lived, yes. For 700 years, no. I'm talking creative license, exagerration. There was a giant flood... in Noah's area. Not the whole world, I'm talking more like New Orleans: It was localized.

Now do you get it???

Tofuball · #14 07-15-2008, 09:54 AM

Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I don't get it :P

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And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

This language does not indicate "Millions of Years" or "God Time"

Therefore, to infer such, would say that the scripture is incorrect or lying, or to make a really major stretch.

$100T2 · #15 07-15-2008, 10:16 AM

More NASCAR. Thanks anyway, Tofu.