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12-29-2006, 03:38 PM
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Is God Addicted to glory?
Any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Vert8813B at 2008-12-02, 7:30 p.m.
Did Queen or Zero say that the said situation paralelled their own? Seriously man; I won't offer my opinions. I'll be done with this forum. Peace.
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12-29-2006, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by yzf-r1
"addicted" is a strange word choice in this context
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I had considered using "dependent" in its place but I perferred the implications held by "addicted"
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God "will not share My glory with another", because there is no other
For I know their works and their thoughts. It shall be that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come and see My glory.
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But where does this propensity towards glory come from? Could an addiction serve as an answer?
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Originally Posted by Vert8813B at 2008-12-02, 7:30 p.m.
Did Queen or Zero say that the said situation paralelled their own? Seriously man; I won't offer my opinions. I'll be done with this forum. Peace.
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Let's see how long this lasts.
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12-29-2006, 07:52 PM
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Don't waste your time. First prove there is a God and then discuss whether he digs glory or not.
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12-29-2006, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by czarofzar
Don't waste your time. First prove there is a God and then discuss whether he digs glory or not.
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First, prove YOU exist.
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12-29-2006, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by yzf-r1
this is a direct reference to the fact that those suffering in the Lake of Fire will be a constant, visible reminder to all those who are saved (and those of future generations)
sobering stuff
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question--why would those who are already saved need a constant visible reminder?? Wouldnt you think that finding yourself in heaven would serve as enough of a reminder?? I certainly would think so....and besides, at that point, once you've already been called to Heaven, why would any reminder be needed, since those who are called to heaven are there for eternity? It isnt like God would call one to heaven, only to evict that person three years from now....so at that point, such a reminder is pointless.
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12-29-2006, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tofuball
First, prove YOU exist.
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When I can sit through a magic card trick hosted my my youngest, and it fails, yet I tell her she picked the right card, I indeed exist.
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12-29-2006, 10:36 PM
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When I can sit through a magic card trick hosted my my youngest, and it fails, yet I tell her she picked the right card, I indeed exist.
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lol, oh I liked this one.
It all depends on how you want to look at it. If you want to go only by how things are, he's quite "assertive" in his requests from people.
Worship or you're screwed.
The perk to this? You get tons of benefits once you get with his in-crowd. Salvation and happiness seem to be in high demand these days, but it's one of those limited-time offer deals like on TV.
Finally, if you're one of those actiony types, you get a choice of checking out the HD live coverage or being front and center for God's Beatdown Block Party. I think it airs somewhere around the end of the world, and everybody who's anybody is going to be there to see this one. That kid Lucifer's had a beatdown coming for awhile now since that whole incident in Heaven, and God's so pissed that any one of his creations who don't rep his squad is going to catch that fire. Guess he was waiting to get the best of the best of his creations as backup.
God is like the ORIGINAL O.G., after busting his ass those 6 days he considers himself to have "paid the cost to be the boss".
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12-30-2006, 09:12 AM
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warped statement....God first loved us (and created us)
without God you're nothing
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Soooo, worship or you're screwed basically... lol, not much said here that differs from my original statement.
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Originally Posted by yzf-r1
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true Christianity is actually a hard road, an invitiation to suffer as Christ suffered
sure, there are many selling a "health and prosperity gospel" (e.g. Joel Olsteen), but they are phonies
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lol, but once you've passed the initiation and get in with the 'G-Unit' everything's awesome. Not like the entire time you're in Heaven you'd be suffering, otherwise what would be the difference between it and Hell?
Everyone's got their own version of afterlife rewards, be it chillin' on streets paved with gold/40 virgins/fighting the greatest heroes ever the entire day before coming back to life for partying at night. G-man looks out for his crew
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how many hours have you spent watching the Simpsons last year?
you have an extremely trivial and secular mind
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lol, most likely just one. Only really can stand watching two episodes these days before I start to wonder why FOX keeps that show around.
Shame you can't appreciate my humor, however
Just figured I'd put the whole thing in an easier to understand context, since I know a lot of people get tired of the whole "insta-post bible quote" bit.
And I suppose 'secular' would be the best way to describe myself. Wouldn't go so far as to call myself part of the laity, but I'm not nor will ever be a clergyman. 
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12-30-2006, 11:11 AM
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Sure, it means tons to me Mark. Hence why I brought up different versions.
Thanks for adding in another, though I'd have to say the personal criticisms at the end were a tad much. :P
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12-31-2006, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by skydivr7673
question--why would those who are already saved need a constant visible reminder?? Wouldnt you think that finding yourself in heaven would serve as enough of a reminder?? I certainly would think so....and besides, at that point, once you've already been called to Heaven, why would any reminder be needed, since those who are called to heaven are there for eternity? It isnt like God would call one to heaven, only to evict that person three years from now....so at that point, such a reminder is pointless.
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This is the problem with Hell. To my knowledge, there is no explanation for it, only unsatisfactory speculations.
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Originally Posted by Vert8813B at 2008-12-02, 7:30 p.m.
Did Queen or Zero say that the said situation paralelled their own? Seriously man; I won't offer my opinions. I'll be done with this forum. Peace.
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Let's see how long this lasts.
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12-31-2006, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by yzf-r1
because God is holy and pure, He is fixated and zealous for what is holy and pure, which ultimately is His own glory
in a human sense, this may seem narcissistic, but God always was, the only source of Truth
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I’ve given this answer some thought. From an argumentative perspective, I’m not terribly partial to it, though from a spiritual one, I wonder. Is it fair to label God with purely humanistic qualities? Perhaps not…
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Originally Posted by Vert8813B at 2008-12-02, 7:30 p.m.
Did Queen or Zero say that the said situation paralelled their own? Seriously man; I won't offer my opinions. I'll be done with this forum. Peace.
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Let's see how long this lasts.
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12-31-2006, 11:39 AM
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you cannot ascribe tendencies and traits of fallen man to the eternal God
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Yeah, that's a good point. Thought to say that he couldn't have such qualities would be limiting what he's capable of.
Example: We describe him as a vengeful God at times, and vengence is definitely something a human can be capable of. Maybe not to the same scale that God's been known to clean shop, but it only takes a bit of creativity to acheive similar results.
If you decide to spin it around that far, that is.
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12-31-2006, 01:42 PM
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Yeah, that's a good point. Thought to say that he couldn't have such qualities would be limiting what he's capable of.
Example: We describe him as a vengeful God at times, and vengence is definitely something a human can be capable of. Maybe not to the same scale that God's been known to clean shop, but it only takes a bit of creativity to acheive similar results.
If you decide to spin it around that far, that is.
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That is because many people look upon things from a decidedly human perspective. Let's face it--there was not one single human trait until God created it as such, therefore, to be accurate, we must realize that things like "vengeful" came from God long before they were human traits.
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everything stems for God's perfect attrubutes: vengeance has it's origin in God's justice
human vengeance has it's origin in sinful pride
vengeance is mine, I will repay
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Exactly the lesson I pointed out to you recently and that you ignored....too bad you're so full of yourself that you cannot help but think that you have some nonexistent right to your own veangence....
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01-01-2007, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by yzf-r1
humans are "created in the image of God"...I believe this is primarily in a spiritual context, since God is spirit
so....we possess some of the Divine attritbutes, although marred by sin....when man denies the Creator, he quickly descends into moral and spiritual oblivion because he has lost connection with the Source
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Jealousy is a sin....humans are frequently guilty of jealousy. SO IS GOD....
Deuteronomy 6:15
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for the LORD your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land.
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If it is a sin for a man to be jealous of someone enough to harm them or take something that they have, why is it not a sin for God to have that same jealousy enough to destroy, like that scripture says?
Here's a hint--to answer this one, you cannot simply say "because it is God...." There must be a real answer for that to make sense. Why is it not hypocrisy for God to possess enough jealousy to kill and destroy, but the same behavior is a sin when a man does it?
And at the same time, if your only answer is "because it is God", then explain why God would be that hypocritical to do every day what is dead wrong for those who are created in His image to do. Explain to us why God wants to follow His example(Jesus), but at the same time it is contradicted like the verse shows.
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01-01-2007, 01:30 AM
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did you post another tirade, jonnie? when are you gonna figure out I have no respect for anything you say, hypocrite?
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dude, youre a fucking moron....
I asked a serious question and it had nothing to do with you personally, so get the fuck over yourself and fast.
fuckin lunatic....
EDIT---ahh, I see....changed your post after you got busted being a fuckwad....too bad for you it was already quoted, dumbass
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