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05-22-2008, 11:43 PM
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Gonna make a Hydrogen cell for my car
I know most of what I've heard about a hydrogen cell says its not worth it but I've been seeing alot of stuff latley about a 50% increase in MPG. My Jeep, a cheap 87 junker, gets around 20 MPG in the city right now. I priced most of the stuff I'd need today and the whole thing will cost less then 50 bucks. If all goes well I might do a bit of a write up. Anyone have any previous experience on this?
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05-22-2008, 11:45 PM
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I only do things that work.
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06-11-2008, 11:59 PM
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I got my first cell made and put it in a friends car at work, a 88 Toyota truck. Heres some pics:

This is the outside, all put together

This is what the inside looks like
But the really interesting thing was his spark plugs a few days after he ran it.
This is the same spark plug, its a little blurry cause I cant figure out how to take a close up, but half of his plug is black and the other half looks clean as a whistle. All his plugs looked like that, and they were all black before we started so I can only assume that his motor is being cleaned up. He also tells me he feels a noticeable difference in power, His exaust is running cooler and his gas needle hasn't been moving as fast. Of coarse he's only gone 100 miles so far so I'm not claiming the 62 MPG he says he's getting after figuring his needle has moved 1/8 of a tank with a 13 gallon tank. He's made another for his son's car and I bought everything I need for my car today. It was a bit more then I expected price wise (still well under 100$) but hell, at 4.25 a gallon its worth a shot
Edit: I hooked it up to a switch inside the truck. When the car is warmed up and he flips the switch you can actually hear the motor change, its amazing.
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06-12-2008, 12:04 AM
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Plain ol water vapor can have that effect too
Any concrete gains (such as actual measured increase in MPG?)
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06-12-2008, 12:09 AM
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I keep telling the guy to measure his MPG, but he just says "nah, I know how much my needle will move from place to place"
Thats why I've been keeping a close eye on my jeep's MPG (18 now) so I'll have some real numbers in maybe a month.
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06-12-2008, 01:33 PM
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So I can make a hydrogen cell just using abs plasitc, some threaded rod and a handful of nuts and fender washers? Sign me up!
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06-12-2008, 03:01 PM
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How exactly does this work?
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06-12-2008, 08:50 PM
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The electrical current from your battery turns the water in the canister into pure Hydrogen and Oxygen gas (H2O). You just pump the gas into the intake and there you go. The way I see it the O helps burn more of the gas in there and the H is just plain explosive. I tried lighting some on fire to test it, found that bit o information out the hard way. My hand was swollen for 3 days.
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06-12-2008, 10:28 PM
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If you get real results, you'll have to post a writeup on here 
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06-13-2008, 07:02 AM
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You just pump the gas into the intake and there you go.
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Kind of like you would if ,say, you were going to add another injector in the intake? And how to you determine the amount to pump in? Also how do you regulate said amount? How do you pump it in? Like does it have it's own pump (like and extra fuel pump or some such thing)? Would it be feasable to just "T" into your fuel line?
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06-13-2008, 07:27 AM
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Haha, if you T the fuel line you'll end up getting gas in your cell :P
Gas runs at around 38psi or so, I doubt the cell runs anywhere near that 
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06-13-2008, 07:55 AM
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I was actually thinking on the outlet side of the cell. That way it mixes with the gas and goes directly into the combustion chamber. Or does it not work that way? I would honestly like to know more about this process because I don't know much of anything about it, but I don't have much time for research ATM....
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06-13-2008, 07:59 AM
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Yeah, the outlet side of the cell is prolly nowhere near that kind of pressure, maybe even relies on engine vacuum to draw out the gas,.
Also, it's a vapor, and gasoline is liquid. Lets say we do get it mixed in evenly, I don't think the injectors would appreciate that 
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06-13-2008, 08:11 AM
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Ok so you would basicly have to inject it somehow into the intake then....at that point do you just use the engine vacuum to pull it out of the canister?
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06-13-2008, 08:29 AM
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It's just plumbed right into the intake and pulled out by engine vac, from what I've seen. No special injectors or anything.
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