Jesus Camp

'Jesus Camp', directed by Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady (The Boys of Baraka), follows Levi, Rachael, and Tory to Pastor Becky Fischer's "Kids on Fire" summer camp in Devil's Lake, North Dakota, where kids as young as 6 years-old are taught to become dedicated Christian soldiers in "God's army." The film follows these children at camp as they hone their "prophetic gifts" and are schooled in how to "take back America for Christ." The film is a first-ever look into an intense training ground that recruits born-again Christian children to become an active part of America's political future.

I've uploaded it here:
http://www.illstreet.net/Jesus Camp.avi

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I really didn't want to watch that, it looked really creepy.

But I'm taking your hosting it on your server to be a hint that you recommend we watch it :P

yep, a strong hint

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how big ?

he says, looking at his network speed monitor struggling to hit a peak of 2.7kb/s

{besides, I already saw a Hitler youth camp movie, is there any real difference other than swapping jesus for hitler ?}

oop, 666mb, is it really worth 4 days download ?

I'll convert it to a smaller file if you want. I uploaded it at 2.3MB/sec

It's for sure worth watching. I had to stop watching it and go out because it was pissing me off that much.

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thanks, I'll wait for the follow up show that covers the follow up camp that teaches proper suicide bombing techniques.

jesus akbar!!!!

I've had the misfortune of seeing this movie a little earlier, as well as the interview of the lady who hosts this camp.

Laying of hands on a cut-out of Bush to pray for his leadership, teaching kids martial arts and drill routines to fight for religion, etc..

I have to say, it's movements like this which honestly keep me out of organized religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Camp

http://www.cinematical.com/2006/09/2...ew-jesus-camp/

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoQb8vb4blA

According to the distributor, it "doesn't come with any prepackaged point of view", and it tries to be "an honest and impartial depiction of one faction of the evangelical Christian community�.

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Uhhh, riiighhttt.

And also, why do you think they picked PENTECOSTALS to do the documentary on?

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I'm very interested to see Ark2's, bx7's, and YZFs comments on this.

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The blog: Tofuball's Worklog

Read The Bible - it's the Word of God.

well, everything these days comes with a prepackaged point of view. That is obvious. Simply claiming that it doesnt wont change that. That said, I didnt click on the link this time, but I have seen this before, I believe it is the same one....where they train kids fighting skills so they can "fight for the Lord"....its absurd. Those poor kids....

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"some people are like slinky,
their not realy good for much.
but you cant help but smile
when you see one tumbling down the stairs"

Is YZF seriously banned for 10 days?

I don't wanna have to wait that long to get his posts on this thread :P Unban!

I'm prolly not gonna get a chance to watch the rest of this film till Thursday.

yeah, he is. This would be because he thinks its a good idea to run around and tell people he wants them dead and such. no matter how many times anyone, including you, have expressed disagreement at his lack of compassion, he ignores even those who he claims to respect. perhaps this should be considered by you as food for thought--so that next time he claims that he takes your rebukes, the truth will be remembered.

where I come from, when you really do respect someone like a brother, you pay attention to what they have to say, even if you end up disagreeing with it in the end, you at least show enough respect to listen. In any case, this is how much he respects you and anyone else around here. Hope he enjoys his vacation.

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"some people are like slinky,
their not realy good for much.
but you cant help but smile
when you see one tumbling down the stairs"

I can't say I see things the same way you do.

Though, _I believe_ it is possible that he thinks of of certain things in a similar fashion to you; wanting everyone to show enough respect to listen, even if you don't agree. Though, _I think_ he sees the respect in a different way then most people, and he's usually pretty bad at dealing with the (perceived or real) lack of respect.

The above underline emphasis is to show that these are just passive opinions of mine and I'm not pushing it as fact

I have personally found the best way to deal with people like that, who have different communications expectations or needs then you, is to adapt your own communication. For example, how do you think he reacted when people said:

"I can see where you are coming from, but I disagree because of _____"


I'm not saying that this will change his actions, I'm just pointing out a passive observation.


Now, again, I'll also point out I'm not standing up for all his actions, that is not in the scope of this post, and I believe I've already fully and adequately covered that topic in previous posts.


Anyway, the original point: I'm just really very interested in what he has to say on the topic of this thread.

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The blog: Tofuball's Worklog

Read The Bible - it's the Word of God.

It's been tried, First few years debating him on RX-7 club forum, that's how most people attempted to talk to him. His replies were much as now; mocking science, mocking the poster, chortling at the thought of them burning in hell or dying horribly.

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your sig was 1.8mb

- From a PM I got from Mark ("YZF")

Wow sounds like an encyclopedia entry.

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