The Jesus can't be God Thread

While thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus himself said;
-" No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18)
-"Ye have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His shape." (John 5:37)
-"God is a spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." (John 4:24)

I LOLed when Jesus said that no one had seen or heard God ant any time, while his followers both saw and heard him, is clear proof that Jesus was not God.

that is what John said. However, below is what Jesus said

hmmmm what about this?
We all know Jesus performed many miracles, but he himself admitted that the power he had was not of his own, but derived from God.
-"Verily I say unto you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do..." (John 5:19)
-"I can of mine own self do nothing: As I hear I judge, and my judgment is just because I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father which has sent me." (John 5:30)

HA! So Jesus, of his own admission, could do nothing on his own is clear proof that Jesus is not all-powerful, and therefore, Jesus is not God

Tuffer one for ya, brah. When speaking of the Day of Judgment, Jesus clearly gave evidence of a limitation on his knowledge;
-"but of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32 and Matt 24:36)

Does not god know all? And gods knowledge is without any limitations, right? So jesus said, of his own admission, that he did not know when the day of judgment would be, and is clear proof that jesus is not all-knowing, and that jesus is therefore not god.

(Qur'an 4:171)

i find it fascinating that holy books can differ from another. and what i feel is the same of these two at least are both have a love story about a powerful being needing a son.

not sure i buy that. a son is a spawn of

i think all holy books are flawed. I'm not surprised you found one in the big Q

I thought Moses had heard the voice of God. Bible guys, am I right on that?

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You are correct, sir! That just blew my mine there! You just let the air out of the tire for the truck to pass through under the bridge. You just saved the company millions for putting less tomatoes on the salad, etc, etc, etc.!!!!!!!!111!!1AAAA!1!!!!!!

Moses saw god as well...
-"And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend." (Exodus 33:11)
-"And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face." (Deuteronomy 34:10)

Of course, the fable contradiction ever present from the same author. This is why, imo, that the bible cant be trusted as a reliable source for spiritual matters due to Man's impure letters. Thus....:

-"Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put theein a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen." (Exodus 33:20-23)

is not god the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and does he not call upon nor pray to anyone? but jesus, however, did acknowledged that there was one whom he worshipped and to whom he prayed. remember this gem?
-"I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God." (John 20:17)
-"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt 27:46)

lol if jesus was god, then couldn't this be read "Myself, myself, why hast thou forsaken me?" that would be pure bullcrap if you asked me.

How about prayer?
-"Our Father,..." (Luke 11:2-4) was he praying to himself?
-"O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: Nevertheless, not as I will but as thou wilt." (Matt 26:36-39) Was jesus praying to himself again?

Soooooooo, jesus, of his own admission, and by his own actions, acknowledged, worshipped and prayed to another being as god, and Mark's quote of jesus talking about his father, god, is clear proof that jesus himself is not god.

um i think what has been said by czar is very valid and he has been extreamly civil in his questions and even quoting direct passages, to answer him with that last post is complete BS just because you don't know how to answer him, you know YZF it is ok not to know everything

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Thanks for getting my back again Misty. but i count on mark to go off from topic and then smacktalk to divert attention to biblical failings.

actually, my source is from jesus. here, i found a pic to remind you where hence the words are from

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I told you i'll do shit like that when you revert to smacktalk in this section.

why, because of this pic? once i find where he is buried, ill take a shit on him too.
lol decimated. What good did that word do? probably made a bunch of puny xtains feel better. very well, i was not offended from it. But why should I worry? Jesus himself isn't god. My thread proves a lot of mistakes even from Jesus himself. He just doesn't have a good memory. if he did, then yes, he probably wouldn't have said the things he did if he remembered the old testament or what ever it was called back then. probably the 'Comic Book'. But I guess he was only a human with a boner for little boys. good game, Mark. Please post mor smacktalk. For I will continue taking a shit on your bible as you continue to do so.