Purpose

DarkAngelKamui · #31 06-23-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero

The main deterrent against mass-mischief is going to jail. Unless you're prepared to take on that entire system, you might not want to cross it.

You're in web-design right? You know, guys like you and me, we'll spend most of our lives working or resting to go to work. You probably work 40 hours, sleep 40, and commute 10 a week. You're up an hour before work getting ready/eating, and an hour afterwards eating, or doing laundry and all of the other bullshit we have to do. So what, you get your 2 days a week, to do whatever you want in the single city you're bound to staying close by because Monday is always on the horizon. We'll never see 10% of the world, we'll never spend all of the time that we could with people that matter to us when we encounter them, and we'll restrain ourselves from living to the fullest because our career stability is always in question. In the end, we've done nothing but survive and spend our lives to buy shit that society has conditioned us to believe that we need. We'll have a decent house, a couple of cars, and a few stories to tell. Then we die. All the while we give our entire lives to these companies, ultimately, some rich guy, somewhere, is getting richer. If you give 100% instead of 50%, that just means they have to hire one less person in your department, which means they pocket the "saved" revenue at the end of the year. Sure, you can be that rich guy if you nearly kill yourself to get there, but then the government is going to cut your throat.

Pretty much, we're screwed to living a "normal" life. We're wasting away and not doing shit. If you're at work now, leave early. Go get in your car, put in a RATM cd, let out one loud ass yell at the top of your lungs, make some faces at elderly people and children on the way home. When you get home, take a piss out in the open. Go break something. Find something in your house that you hate and toss that bitch out.

How farfetched does that sound? Not really if you think about it... that's the irony. You won't do it though, you can't. We're all bigger slaves to society than africans ever were.

Damn, Z. That's pretty deep...

Harsh, but deep.

Zero · #32 06-24-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by YZF-R1

sit down and read Ecclesiastes sometime...everything in this life, aside from the pursuit of God, is complete and utter futility, a chasing after the wind

I also recommend John MacArthur's message "Your Best Life Now? or Later?"...a brilliant rebuttal to Osteen's fluff

I'll get right on that chief.

DarkAngelKamui · #33 06-24-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by YZF-R1

sit down and read Ecclesiastes sometime...everything in this life, aside from the pursuit of God, is complete and utter futility, a chasing after the wind

I also recommend John MacArthur's message "Your Best Life Now? or Later?"...a brilliant rebuttal to Osteen's fluff

I'll check it out, but this is along the same lines as what Paramahansa Yogananda says in his book "Man's Eternal Quest"

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Yogananda said, "Mankind is engaged in an eternal quest for that 'something else' he hopes will bring him happiness, complete and unending. For those individual souls who have sought and found God, the search is over: He is that Something Else."

Zero · #34 06-24-2008, 09:58 AM

DAK... I think that you need to punch someone in the face, someone that will probably beat your ass, a random person, not someone you know. Just relentlessly attack them, giving it all you've got.

DarkAngelKamui · #35 06-24-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero

DAK... I think that you need to punch someone in the face, someone that will probably beat your ass, a random person, not someone you know. Just relentlessly attack them, giving it all you've got.

Hmmm... I don't think I could bring myself to just clock anyone like that, but I do have a sparring buddy that I know wouldn't have any qualms about trying to kick my ass. Maybe I should give him a call for a match.

Dead serious about this too.

Zero · #36 06-24-2008, 10:04 AM

Then you take the thrill, the rebellion, the not-doing-what-you're-supposed-to-do out of it... then it's jsut boring!

Smoke a cigarette today too, when you go to put it out, throw it at someones chest and give them a "fuck you, i dare you" look.

DarkAngelKamui · #37 06-24-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero

Then you take the thrill, the rebellion, the not-doing-what-you're-supposed-to-do out of it... then it's jsut boring!

Smoke a cigarette today too, when you go to put it out, throw it at someones chest and give them a "fuck you, i dare you" look.

I did buy a pack of Black and Milds yesterday just because I was tired of caring. I usually don't smoke (anything that's not green), but I made it a point to enjoy one yesterday and this morning on the way to work. Do have to say it did make me feel a bit better.

Supper · #38 06-24-2008, 10:41 AM

Eh...

I'll just say this, your life isn't what will come. Your life is what you do every day on your way to what will come. There is nothing worse then looking back and realizing all that time you spent hoping for "your life to begin" that it was rushing past you in a headlong tumble towards the grave.

Zero · #39 06-24-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkAngelKamui

I did buy a pack of Black and Milds yesterday just because I was tired of caring. I usually don't smoke (anything that's not green), but I made it a point to enjoy one yesterday and this morning on the way to work. Do have to say it did make me feel a bit better.

Here's what I've been thinking lately. We've all been fed the idea that the ideal life for us is spending our time working our asses off so that we can one day get married to someone that we can tolerate being with, have kids that are a huge financial drain, a house with a white picket fence and a couple of dogs. This is what "normal" is right? This is what we're supposed to do? This is what makes us inferior if we don't, right?

I say fuck that. You aren't supposed to smoke, you aren't supposed to drink, you aren't supposed to do anything because it may take time off of your life. What's more important? The time spent alive, or the value of the time that you get. Who's to say crack-addicts don't have the right idea? They may life 10 years high off of their ass and get more out of life than the sucker that worked 60 years and ended up old, with nothing but enough to maintain jsut being alive until he dies.

What do you enjoy more than anything DAK? Toss your concious out, because your concious has probably been formed by other peoples influences, and not what you have decided is "okay." Our concious is most often formed by people that can influence us, manipulating us to secure our well-being and us being around, because they get something out of it. What do you truly enjoy? What thrills you? What makes you feel alive? Being a corporate zombie isn't working out.

BREAK THE FUCKING MOLD DAK, BREAK THE FUCKING MOLD.

But then again... you meet Miss Doe and you get emotionally attached. You want to be that guy with the white picket fence and a chocolate lab whose sidekick is some sort of yelping ass terrier. Why? Because that's the easiest way to secure that person being with you, "forever." That's where the "She saved my life", "She makes me want to be better", thing comes from. How many times have you been emotionally attached to a girl? And how many have stuck around?

And as far as family and friends. HA. Your family "cares" about you because they're supposed to, because it's become normal to them after so many years. Friends? How many of your friends are you just friends with because there's a mutual advantage to you being friends? You can offer them a service, they can offer you a service, you trade services. Or maybe you don't like being alone, and said friend doesnt, so it's of an advantage to be friends so you can do things together.

How bad would it freak you out if you really sat down, looked at your life andthe world subjectively, and realized that most everything is a lie and completely fake?

Tofuball · #40 06-24-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero

BREAK THE FUCKING MOLD DAK, BREAK THE FUCKING MOLD.

You're in that mold too. Hey, around here, your mold is probably more common then the kind you're complaining about.

If DAK does what you say, he knows that he'll just be stuck in another mold, but this time he'll just be a pompous self-centered jerk.

Zero · #41 06-24-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tofuball

You're in that mold too. Hey, around here, your mold is probably more common then the kind you're complaining about.

If DAK does what you say, he knows that he'll just be stuck in another mold, but this time he'll just be a pompous self-centered jerk.

I'm not in any mold chief. I highly doubt you know enough about me to determine that, nor have I given you enough information to determine that. When I say "we", or "I" in this thread, I'm simply showing that I do/have related to how he feels to an extent.

I haven't been converted to a corporate whore, I can give results without the whole show. I'm not a destroy all, give-up on life coward either. I can't slip into any mold, because they don't make them big enough for me.

DarkAngelKamui · #42 06-24-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero

What do you enjoy more than anything DAK? Toss your concious out, because your concious has probably been formed by other peoples influences, and not what you have decided is "okay." Our concious is most often formed by people that can influence us, manipulating us to secure our well-being and us being around, because they get something out of it. What do you truly enjoy? What thrills you? What makes you feel alive? Being a corporate zombie isn't working out.

BREAK THE FUCKING MOLD DAK, BREAK THE FUCKING MOLD.

But then again... you meet Miss Doe and you get emotionally attached. You want to be that guy with the white picket fence and a chocolate lab whose sidekick is some sort of yelping ass terrier. Why? Because that's the easiest way to secure that person being with you, "forever." That's where the "She saved my life", "She makes me want to be better", thing comes from. How many times have you been emotionally attached to a girl? And how many have stuck around?

And as far as family and friends. HA. Your family "cares" about you because they're supposed to, because it's become normal to them after so many years. Friends? How many of your friends are you just friends with because there's a mutual advantage to you being friends? You can offer them a service, they can offer you a service, you trade services. Or maybe you don't like being alone, and said friend doesnt, so it's of an advantage to be friends so you can do things together.

How bad would it freak you out if you really sat down, looked at your life andthe world subjectively, and realized that most everything is a lie and completely fake?

Not too badly, since I already realize this to an extent. But I do see your point quite clearly.

Hrm, definitely an abstract thought to remember.

Zero · #43 06-24-2008, 01:36 PM

This could all be a test as well.

Or, think about this:

We don't experience the best of pleasure without experiencing pain. For example, the ability to walk around to you isn't really pleasurable. You take it for granted, and think nothing of it. However, picture yourself as being in a wheel chair with doctors telling you that you'll never walk again. A miracle occurs, and you gain full functionality of your legs again. Now, walking is extremely pleasurable to you because you have been on pain side of the spectrum. Perhaps the same is true for emotional pain, that without experiencing the pain, we can't experience the same degree/extreme on the other side of the spectrum, the pleasure.

If you were given a choice to either,
A: Never really feel too much emotional pain, but stay pretty constant in life, and be level at all times, or
B: Go through emotional pain such as you are at a young age, but experience extreme emotional pleasure later in life which couldn't have been obtained without going through the pain.

Which would you pick?

2ndGen.Rocket · #44 06-24-2008, 01:48 PM

Punching someone, or telling someone to go fuck themselves to their face brings out a really strange feeling, but it is a good one. It's something that guys don't feel very often anymore, because we are busy sending emails and buying hair gel.

As much as I hate to agree, Fight Club was dead on. The lives that we lead now ultimately won't provide total satisfaction or happiness. Having nice shit is cool, but in the end all you've got is nice shit. You hope that you enjoy your time alive, but it seems that there are ways you could enjoy it more. I'd like to walk across the country and camp out in the woods every night. I'll never do it though. I'd like to go to Eastern Europe and spend a night doing a bunch of drugs with hot euro chicks. I'll probably never do that either.

Vert8813B · #45 06-24-2008, 01:56 PM

This thread reminds me of Philosophy 101 IMO.