race vs. sex

race segregated bathrooms are unconstitutional. so why are sex segregated bathrooms constitutional?

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so the womens dont rape us. d'ur

I think 100% of all straight men would love for this to happen.

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okay, and how is this an answer to my question?

explain how drawing a line by sex is more appropriate then drawing a line by race.

"group" or "kind" is only defined by how you draw the line of division.

united states v. virginia (The VMI case): a military affiliated university which had a policy since 1830 of only admitting male students was forced to begin admitting female students when the supreme court ruled that the school's admission policy was unconstitutional using intermediate scrutiniy.

the government's argument was that the educational program used 'adversarial' teaching techniques specficially geared towards men. they had scientific studies which demonstrated men learned better in adversarial environments while women learned better in cooperative environments.

the argument that you are indirectly referring to falls flat on its face.

the argument is that men are predisposed to raping women, and it would make it easy for men to rape women. we need to sex segregate bathrooms to protect women.

#1 public bathrooms do not have security measures that prevent one sex from entering the other sex's bathroom. they are self governed. in a secluded area, it would be no problem for a man to enter a woman's bathroom and lie in wait for a victim. in bathrooms with alot of people, it is unlikely a rape could be carried out successfully.

#2 you could easily say minorities such as blacks and spanish people are statistically more prone to committing crimes. therefore, we need to protect whites from the risk of such crimes by segregating rest rooms along racial lines. obviously this line of reasoning is no longer valid.

because women want to be "equal" but still treated like women. does that makes sense?

VMI is not a private institution, therefore it is unconstitutional to disallow females from entering the school. The Citadel and Shannon Faulkner went through this back in the mid 90's.

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It becomes a issue of morality and common sense. We separate bathrooms for Women's safety, and believe me, most women would agree.

If you interpret the constitution verbatim, then yes it would be unconsitutional. But, the U.S. Supreme Court would laugh in your face if you brought them that argument that Women & Men's bathrooms should not be segregated.

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There would be some serious sexual harassment suits if women and men weren't separated.

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and the women would be the only ones filing them. Heaven forbid a man file a sexual harassment suit.

Sounds like women's safety to me. I have a problem with a unregistered male sex offender being in the same restroom with my fiance, my nieces, or my mother.

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The real reason they're typically separate is modesty. In general, women don't want men to hear them shitting or see them preening, and vice versa.

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The real reason they're typically separate is modesty. In general, women don't want men to hear them shitting or see them preening, and vice versa.

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okay... that's very obvious. that's also not the point. the point is that segregation based on sex is a suspect classification in certain situations.

women's safety is not why we segregate bathrooms. the common sense reason for segregating bathrooms was already stated by manntis.

the question that is posed is why is it okay to segregate restrooms by sex but not by race?

if you pose the women's safety answer, then it should be okay to segregate bathrooms by race as long as you can show one race has a much higher disposition towards crimes.