Since Jesus was Jewish.....

sbrxguy · #16 12-29-2006, 01:55 PM

Doesn't the bible preach of tolerance for your fellow man YZF?! There you go with your contradictions again!

sbrxguy · #17 12-29-2006, 01:55 PM

When will you ever learn?

rtryb2200 · #18 12-29-2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by yzf-r1

was I addressing you? no

sorry my bad

sbrxguy · #19 12-29-2006, 03:57 PM

Doctrinal error, ha! Let me know when you get off your self fulfilling prophecy mental road trip.

AmishBoy · #20 12-29-2006, 04:45 PM

Ok I'm going to simplify this.

Jesus was the "Gospel of GOD V2" that the Jews got in the mail. They opened it and was like "hell no I'm not installing this shit on my computer" and they threw it in the trash. So Christ's church went on without them. Adam and Eve had "Gospel of GOD V1".

Sort of like when GOD came out with the "Gospel of GOD V3" with the Mormons.

At some point it's time to go on to bigger things. Because as a race when have grown and matured. Like Vista.

AmishBoy · #21 12-29-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by yzf-r1

no, you're going to introduce Mormon doctrines: "doctrines of demons"

Oh you make me laugh.

You are just like the Jews. You got a new version in the mail and threw it away. But that's ok GOD and I still love you.

LOVE

AmishBoy · #22 12-29-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by yzf-r1

the God of the O.T. is the same God of the N.T.....no change

The GOD of the O.T. is the same GOD of the N.T. is the same GOD of the B.O.M........no change just additions.

I don't want to change the point of this thread. I just wanted to point to the parallels in how Jews rejected the leadership of Christ and how a lot of Christians have rejected his leadership again.

So I’m sorry.

Continue on without me.

sbrxguy · #23 12-30-2006, 09:56 PM

LIARS!! THEY'RE ALL LIARS!!!

nuff said.

edmcguirk · #24 01-10-2007, 02:05 PM

Please correct me with the details, all I can do is paraphrase the story I heard. (it must have been the history channel)

From a historical perspective there were two main groups of early Christians. Some believed that Christianity was only for the Jews and the others believed that Christianity was for everyone.

The first group mainly believed that Jesus was a great rabbi, not necessarily a son of God. They did not believe in miracles. They also were very much against the Roman rule of Jerusalem. The Romans fought them, and eventually killed them all off. (I forget the name of the city the siege ended at)

That belief structure of Christianity is dead and gone because of their political beliefs.

The other group of Christians were not originally Jews. They believed that Jesus was the son of God. They believed in miracles. They didn't care about the Roman rule of Jerusalem.

They lived on to build what eventually became the Catholic church with very little Jewish influence.

I always find it interesting when politics has a strong effect on the content of religous beliefs. (of course in the earliest days religion and politics were the same thing)

Manntis · #25 01-10-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tofuball

I don't think he's read the Torah, or the Old Testament either.

You mean the Tanakh. The Torah is only the first 5 books of Moses

edmcguirk · #26 01-10-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by yzf-r1

Truth is unchanged by human affairs or agendas,

What you consider truth may be unchanged for your lifetime but the interpretation of a religion as it passes through the ages is strongly affected by who is left alive to perpetuate their beliefs.

It amuses me to hear about how the public perception of truth changes based on the political climate of history.

Christianity could have easily been the vehicle for mindless violence similar to the expresion of muslim faith today if the dice had tumbled a bit differently.

Oh wait, it already was.