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Join in on this Discussion and see the pictures. Click here-> : 10 Signs of a Jesus Follower


Tofuball
02-18-2009, 10:32 AM
"Anyone who’s spent any time on the Internet knows there is a growing sentiment of hatred towards religion. Spend a few moments perusing Digg or the Huffington Post and you’ll find droves of people decrying the evils of religion, religious thought or faith in general. In fact, one of the most common forms of this criticism is a bait-and-switch argument that equates Islamic fundamentalism with Christian fundamentalism and then denounces them both. It’s this sort of thinking that I want to address in this journal entry. This is by no means a systematic theology, but it is a simple breakdown of the basic teachings of Jesus, taken from his sermon in Matthew 5 through 7."

http://journal.plasticmind.com/savior/following-jesus/


UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES IS SECULARISM TO BE BROUGHT INTO THIS, NOR IS IT TO TURN INTO AN ABORTION RIGHTS DEBATE. Go ahead and discuss every aspect except those.

$100T2
02-18-2009, 05:14 PM
Well, damn Marky, 4 strikes, you're out!

3. A follower of Christ doesn’t indulge in anger, lust, divorce, lying or retaliation. In fact, Jesus specifically says that we are to love those that do wrong to us. He even goes so far as to say that if someone tries to misuse us, we are to offer them more. Remember, Jesus himself was falsely accused and put to death for doing nothing wrong. Matthew 5:21-48

4. A follower of Christ is not a hypocrite. We are to give to those in need and pray often, but we should do so without calling attention to ourselves. Anyone giving, praying or fasting in such a way that draws attention to themselves would be like a Pharisee, the group of people that Jesus spoke out against most harshly. Matthew 6:1-18

9. A follower of Christ treats people the way he would want to be treated. Some have called this the Golden Rule. It could best be summarized as the climax of the sermon; in fact, Jesus himself says that this simple rule encapsulates all of the Law and the Prophets. Interestingly enough, he follows up the Golden Rule by reminding us that it is a path that few take; but it does lead to life. Matthew 7:12-13

10. A follower of Christ is genuine and discerning. Jesus warned about people who would claim to represent him but didn’t actually live as a follower of Christ; he called them ravenous wolves in sheep’s clothing. He makes the chilling statement than not all who wear the Christian name tag are actually on the guest list. Further evidence that one of the things Jesus hated most was hypocrisy. Matthew 7:15-27

Tofuball
02-18-2009, 05:30 PM
Hey, I'll be the first to admit I don't live up to that list either :P

$100T2
02-18-2009, 06:21 PM
Yeah I do retaliate, I admit it.

And you definitely don't treat others as you'd like to be treated, and you for DAMN SURE indulge in anger. Don't make me search your last 10 posts for examples.

$100T2
02-18-2009, 06:21 PM
Hey, I'll be the first to admit I don't live up to that list either :P

Yeah, but you don't go around admonishing everyone about what doomed to hell sinners they are, either.

95whitepep
02-18-2009, 06:28 PM
LOL, even after all of this, skidMArk still sent me his weekly "you're a piece of dog shit" PM.

While normally I would respond, the only thing I'm going to do is scrap skidMArk off my shoe.

BackyardSog
02-18-2009, 06:48 PM
I'm sure god will make an exception.

$100T2
02-18-2009, 06:52 PM
there is such a thing as righteous anger, and I'm angered by alot of the crap here for good reason

Really? Show us that passage in the Bible, because according to the link that your hero Tofu put up, there is NO SUCH THING. C'mon, Tofu is one of the "only people [you] respect on this board", surely he can't be wrong on this, can he? Surely the Bible and Jesus trump YOUR worthless opinion, right?


3. A follower of Christ doesn’t indulge in anger, lust, divorce, lying or retaliation. In fact, Jesus specifically says that we are to love those that do wrong to us. He even goes so far as to say that if someone tries to misuse us, we are to offer them more. Remember, Jesus himself was falsely accused and put to death for doing nothing wrong.

$100T2
02-18-2009, 07:05 PM
really? the Lord cleansed the temple not once, but twice...tossed all the money changers and crooks out of the temple

Are you the Lord? Are you the Lord? No.

not saying my motivation is always righteous, but in defending the scriptures, it is

Dude, this isn't defending the scriptures. You get violently angry, and that goes against everything Jesus teaches.

$100T2
02-18-2009, 07:22 PM
you interpret it that way, I'm not that upset, and I'm quick to forgive and move on....difficult with recalcitrant people, though

I'm not interpreting anything: Jesus says to NOT do exactly what you do. I'm reading it word for word, taking it at face value. You are NOT to get angry like you do. You are not the Lord, Marky. Sometimes, I think that you really believe you are.

Mark, are you really... Jesus???

Zero
02-18-2009, 07:31 PM
http://anthrodegree.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/frustration-714729.jpg

czarofzar
02-18-2009, 07:34 PM
if someone tries to misuse us, we are to offer them more.
:gay:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/pegsioux/dn5bday3.jpg

Tofuball
02-19-2009, 07:47 AM
Yeah, but you don't go around admonishing everyone about what doomed to hell sinners they are, either.

Sure I do. You can be a doomed to hell sinner or a saved by grace sinner, but we're all sinners, whether or not Mark brings it up.

That leads into the fact that many people don't really know what sin is. The word is commonly used to express something like "a bad deed," anything from forgetting to wash your hands to murder.

"You cannot understand the solution to the problem, unless you understand the problem. You cannot understand the cure unless you understand the diagnosis. You will never be able to understand God's remedy for this world, if you don't understand the malady under which this world lives and functions."
-John F. MacArthur, Jr.

What is sin, really?

95whitepep
02-19-2009, 08:12 AM
you interpret it that way, I'm not that upset, and I'm quick to forgive and move on....difficult with recalcitrant people, though


:rolleyes:
Yea, a weekly PM to me calling me dog shit for the past month, thats 'quick' forgiveness....give me a break.

Tofuball
02-19-2009, 10:00 AM
What is holy? Can we violate God's holiness?

I say we can't violate such a thing, to be holy is to be "Set apart"

Kadosh - קדושה‎ - Seprateness. It can be used in a positive or a negative. When referring to God, it is probably a reflection of how separate from our carnal world He is - and thus pure, and entirely true, untainted.

$100T2
02-19-2009, 02:54 PM
Sure I do.

No, you don't. You and I both know exactly what I meant by my post: You don't strut your ass around here telling everyone their opinion is worthless, that you are going to smash them like an M1 tank, etc.

Nice try, though.

Tofuball
02-19-2009, 03:20 PM
You weren't that specific before :P My answer still stands :p

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grace12
03-16-2010, 01:14 AM
I'm sure god will make an exception.

Freewilly
04-17-2010, 11:59 AM
Damn I must be on the wrong forum I am clueless to what ya all saying pmsl :blah:

cupid2787
05-09-2010, 07:48 AM
One thing I've realized of the things I've read it that arguing the word of God. For me, God is working in His own mysterious way. One thing I can share is that LOVE is all that matters. If we dont have LOVE we are nothing but if we have LOVE? We can do everything and Happiness through the years in our hearts if we experienced Love. Am I right?

Sure I do. You can be a doomed to hell sinner or a saved by grace sinner, but we're all sinners, whether or not Mark brings it up.

That leads into the fact that many people don't really know what sin is. The word is commonly used to express something like "a bad deed," anything from forgetting to wash your hands to murder.

"You cannot understand the solution to the problem, unless you understand the problem. You cannot understand the cure unless you understand the diagnosis. You will never be able to understand God's remedy for this world, if you don't understand the malady under which this world lives and functions."
-John F. MacArthur, Jr.

What is sin, really?

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