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Disclaimer:

I am merely trying to help you guys... I take no responsibility for any girls you get pregnant, any relationships you screw up, any times you get slapped or kicked in the nuts, or any abuse of the powers I bestow.


Thanks,
$100T2

Edit: For those of you who aren't from the RX7Club, this is a kinda famous thread... I guess somehow along my journeys, I became somewhat of a relationship guru... The original thread of this was 60+ pages with something like 20,000 views. Most of the useless drivel has been edited out, so here ya go.


Lesson one

How to talk to women without looking like a total jerk-off:

Step one: You have to have made eye contact before anything else. Just because you saw her, doesn't mean she saw you. Now, you two have made eye contact. Great. Now, repeat. Look again. Did she look at you too? Outstanding. Now, let's look at her body language for a minute. Did she smile? Did she cross her arms over her chest? Did she whip out a machete and lunge at you?

Pop quiz: Which of those three responses are good? Which are bad? Why?

Step two: Let's assume that you made eye contact. Let's assume her response was positive. Now what? Easy. Go up and say hello. Do NOT have a "clever" or "witty" line. All that will do is get you ridiculed later by her and her friends. A simple, "Hi, I'm Shabobwah, and I just wanted to come over and meet you" works fine. A more "witty" introduction like, "Hi, I'm Shabobwah, and I saw you looking at me" makes you sound like a dickwad. Keep it simple, keep it basic. You have a 90% chance of being shot-down, so let's keep the embarassment to a minimum. If she acts like a total bitch, walk away. Do NOT stoop to that. Do NOT be bitter or childish. You know why? Because odds are, some other girl is watching, and will sympathize... And that is good karma, or maybe, just maybe, the other girl will come up to you, and you can just shrug it off and meet someone else. Score!

Step three: Now, let's go waaaaaaaaaay out on a limb here... Let's assume she said, "Hi Shabobwah, I'm Pocahontas." Now, you're on the right track, BUT you're also walking a tightrope. It's really easy to step on your crank here. NOW is where your powers of observation will come in handy. While you were busy staring at her boobs the first time I told you to make eye contact, you should have been doing a quick inventory about her, you, and your surroundings. You need to be able to carry on a conversation, because honestly, "duh, duh, duh" will get you nowhere.

Let's put in a hypothetical scenario, just for fun: I am at the supermarket... I see a very pretty girl, we make eye contact twice, I go up towards her... Now, me, being wise in the ways of the woman, do NOT introduce myself... I merely meander down the aisle (look it up: meander. It's a good word to know) and come up near her. I just happen to need the jar of pickles she is standing in front of... So I ask her, "Excuse me, could you hand me that jar of Vlassic right in front of you? I don't want to get in your way." A-ha. Not witty, not clever... If she gets it for you and is obviously interested (read: smiling and not put out by it) say, "Thanks... My name is Shabobwah, what's yours?" Whoo hoo! See how simple that was? And, here's my little secret... I hate pickles, so as soon as I am out of her sight, I am dumping 'em. It doesn't matter that you don't need them, like them, whatever... You need to recognize the tools you have available... Kinda like being a dating MacGyver. It's a lonely battlefield, and all you have are your wits.

Step four: Do NOT prolong your shopping experience. We want to leave her interested without letting her know, oops, I mean, think, you are a psycho. How do we do this? Very, very simple: "You know, I've really enjoyed talking to you, but I have to go. Can I get your number so we can carry on this conversation later?"

If she says something along the lines of, "You know, I don't really like to give out my number to guys I meet at the market" she's not interested. Say something like, "Yeah, I don't give out my number to guys at the market either... But, it was nice to meet you anyway" and walk off with a smile. Remember, we are never bitter in defeat... We never act like jerks. We never take things personally. Why? I'll explain:

You ever watch that show "Blind Date"? Ever notice how if the girl isn't throwing herself at the guy, the guy starts acting like a total asshole? Well, let me tell you something: Women watch that show too. You know how many dates that guy WON'T be getting because of his behavior? You never, ever act bitter because you don't know who's watching. I know this is the second time I've said it, but it's because it's that important. Drill it into your head.

OK, the question on the table is, how do I get from "Hi, my name is..." to "can I get your phone number?"

The answer to that is not as easy as it sounds, because you all are different from me, and we all know no two women are alike...

Let's say that I'm still in the supermarket, chatting up Pocahontas. I notice she's wearing a UCLA sweatshirt.

"So, you are obviously a Bruin."

"Yeah, I'm in my junior year."

"Oh, really? What's your major?"

"Abnormal Psychology."

"Oh yeah? Which book are you using?"

"Dr. Seuss' Study of Schizophrenia."

"No kidding... I'm on pages 145 through 158. But, my other personalities take up all of chapter 23."

"Ha ha ha."

See? You need to be observant. I've shown interest in her, I've shown that I at least have some clue what the hell she's talking about, and I've made her laugh... Even if my joke wasn't funny, I've gotten a chuckle out of her.

Now, let's say there isn't anything too obvious like that to go on. Let's steer clear of some landmines, ok?

Rule number one: NEVER TELL A PRETTY GIRL THAT SHE IS PRETTY. You know how many times she's been told that?

Rule number two: Let's just avoid any physical compliments at this time. Sure, she's got sexy eyes, but the best time to whip that comment out is when she's giving you head. Nice ass? Wait until after you've slept with her.

Rule number three: Be a gentleman, but not out of control... If you just happen to walk down the aisle together still chatting, and come up to an area where you need to turn to the next aisle, let her go first... A) It's polite, and B) it gives you an easy way to kind of dawdle along (look it up: dawdle. Another good word to know.) If you just got the conversation going, you don't want to turn one way while she goes the other, unless of course, your next stop is for anti-diarrhea medicine or she's browsing for tampons... Let's keep some things a little bit low-key... And, odds are, she's cognizant of that... If you are talking away, and she turns down the bleeding time aisle, she's probably trying to ditch you.

Rule number four: Let her do most of the talking. Girls like two things: To talk, and to let others listen. That's basic common knowledge and basic common sense, but you would be amazed how many guys still don't get it.

Regarding eye contact.

Look for a second, maybe two.

Do NOT STARE. Staring = stalker. That's bad.

If she makes eye contact a second time and is obviously interested, you need to make your move. You can wait for a third just to be sure, but no more. Why? Because if she sees you looking at her over and over and over and has smiled and you don't come up, then she starts wondering if you are looking at her, or if she has snot coming out of her nose.

Got it?

Let's handle some other situations.

I was at this barbeque one afternoon... The guys outnumbered the girls something like 45 to 20 or so. There was this gorgeous girl walking around, and everyone was staring at her... I mean, jaw-dropping gorgeous.

I, like most guys, assumed she would A) have a boyfriend, B) be a stuck-up bitch, and C) if she didn't have a boyfriend, would have her pick of the guys.

So, I didn't bother. I didn't look at her. I didn't stare. I payed her no attention. So, she came up and introduced herself to me.

You see, that type of thing aggravates women. They like it when guys notice them, just not in the stalker way you usually do it. So, by me not looking at her, curiousity got the better of her, and she came up to me. (I hit it hard the next night. *ahem*)

When she came up to me, I was in luck... I had driven that night, and my buddy Scott was busy chugging beers... So, he was drunk, and kept making lewd remarks. I, in turn was just polite. Scott made me look that much better... But, you don't always need a buddy to do that for you. Let the other guys around act like idiots, and you will be the only class in that act.

You see, sometimes you have to be kind of a mystery. Every single girl that goes to a party or anything of that nature knows that all us guys are on the prowl. They know that every time they walk by, we'll be checking out their ass, and they know that the more drunk we get, the more belligerent we'll act. That is bad.

Tip number one: If you are going out clubbing or to a party, whatever, drink in moderation, if at all, if you want a chance to meet somebody. Avoid the cigarettes too, if you're a smoker. Keep a pack of gum handy. You have NO IDEA how the women will react when you are the only non-sweaty, non-smelly, non-drunk jerk there.

You see Timmy, all you need is one or two girls to come talk to you, and you're in with every other girl at the party. They all want to know what you've got that is making other girls come up to you. And, it takes NO work. That's why sometimes it's good to go for the "fashionably late arrival." Let the other guys get there early and get wrecked... Let them make your job easier.

Another nice thing about not being the drunk jerk is that it gives you the opportunity to rescue girls from the drunk jerk. I've been to parties where girls just seem to be trapped by these drunk, vagrant imbeciles... You will know it when you see it, because they get the look of someone who is willing to gnaw off their own arm to get the hell away. That gives you the perfect example to go up and say, "Hey, I haven't seen you in forever!" Even if you don't know who the hell she is (and odds are you won't) I guarantee you're about to find out.

It's really easy to come to somebody's rescue in bad situations:

I was at yoga class one day (an excellent place to meet women... write that one down) and there was this pretty blonde sitting next to me. She was wearing a tie-dyed shirt, and this doofus in front of me turns to her and says, "Hey, I like your shirt... It's really psychedelic!" (see my note above about lame ass opening lines) She was like, "Yeah, great." So, he keeps trying and trying and trying, and I'm just sitting there trying not to crack up. So finally, she turns to me, introduces herself, and blows him off. And I didn't have to do anything.

Sometimes, you get help from people when you least expect it.

This all ties in to what I was explaining before about knowing what tools you have at your disposal. Sometimes your tools are just other guys acting like tools. Sometimes, that's all you need.

Alright, here's the call, don't call rules.

If you want to call, call.

Now, here's where we add a little disclaimer.

If you want to call, call. ONCE. Only ONCE. The phone is a wonderful creation. It has buttons on it. They correspond with numbers. If you press a certain combination, it rings at somebody's house. Everyone knows how to use one, including the object of your desire. Let her call you back. Unless, of course, you are calling someone who has no fingers, no toes, and no teeth with which to hold a pencil to tap in the numbers, I have two questions: A) What the hell kinda freaky stuff are you into? and B) Is she also your sister?

This kinda touches on the availability issue as well. Don't be TOO available. Don't sit at home waiting for a call that might never come. If she says, "Hey, I'll call you tomorrow night", that doesn't mean you sit at home waiting. If you don't have an answering machine, go get one. If you have a cell phone, don't constantly check it to see if you missed her call. In fact, don't give her a cell phone number. Give her your home number only. Don't have a home phone? Get one. Those cell phone minutes are valuable, and think of that cell phone as your new leash, pal.

At the same time, don't be TOO unavailable either, because she'll lose interest. What you want to do is pretty simple: Keep doing whatever it is that you would be doing if she wasn't in the picture. Because, let's be honest, if she's not in the picture yet. If she was, we wouldn't need this thread, would we?


Any questions?

Let's talk about the first date a little bit...

I know I covered this in somebody else's thread, so:

You ask her out. She agrees. You go out to somewhere where you two can talk, yet something else can entertain you so you don't feel like you are onstage trying to amuse her. In other words, DON'T TAKE HER TO A FRICKIN' MOVIE. You know what a movie says? "I don't think you are interesting enough to talk to for a few hours." Take her to a museum. Take her to mini-golf. Bowling... Something lame yet interactive. Enjoy yourself. Girls want to be with a guy who can have a good time, not be a good time. She wants to have fun with you, not because of you. You don't want to go all out on the first date, because then you will be seen as a horny dork. No roses, no candy, nothing stupid like that. Let's say you take her to somewhere, and I'm just spitballing here, that has mini-golf, go-karts, that type of thing... If you want to get her a little gift or something for the date, bring her a bottle of hand lotion or a putting glove from a sporting goods store... Just a "thought you might need this because who knows what's on those things" is a nice little bit of humor, and it's something where she will be impressed without you seeming like you are really, really trying. Don't dwell on it, don't expect anything, just give it to her with an "aw-shucks" grin and a little shrug... It will score points.

Don't feel like you need to do a stand-up comedy routine, either. My Dad always said, "There are two kinds of people, the people who say funny things, and the people who say things funny." Just relax and be yourself, Seinfeld. The best advice I can give you is to ask a lot of questions, actually listen for the answers, and always try to get more in depth. If she says "My class today really sucked ass", don't just respond with "Yeah mine too!" What are you, Beavis? Butthead? Ask her why. Don't try to solve problems, just listen. That will make you a rare catch, especially to a girl who is probably treated like a piece of meat.

Another great tell-tale is, see how close she gets to you. Initiate a little physical contact, but then drop it. Suppose you're doing the mini-golf thing, and she makes a good shot. A quick arm around the shoulders squeeze with a genuine smile is ALL you should try. No bear-hugs or molestation, thanks. You initiate it, see if she reciprocates. If she does, you're in. If she doesn't, don't worry, it's not the end of the world... Maybe she's a slow starter...

I remember I went out with this girl Amber... Absolutely gorgeous girl, model, perfect 10... We decided to go to a movie (if only I knew then what I know now) and went to see Zorro... The whole movie, she had this horrible body language... Leaning away from me, arms crossed, legs crossed, and I'm counting the minutes until I could take her ass home and move on. Well, here I thought she was shutting me out, turns out she was just as nervous as me...

Ended up balls deep in it that night, thanks!

Oh, one other bit of advice... If/when you take her out to dinner, especially if you try to take her out to dinner for a first date, find something that isn't embarassing to eat... Put it this way, nobody wants to watch their date slurping up spaghetti noodles that are 18" long. Get my drift? That's why people usually go for French or Japanese (hibachi style, like Benihana's) for a first date.. No embarassing food there.

Remember, a knife and fork are your friends, and if you put your napkin in your collar to cover your shirt, I will never, ever, ever give any of you advice again. Don't talk with your mouth full, either.

Another thing about manners: "Please", "Thank you", and "You're welcome" are all commonly accepted phrases in modern english. Acquaint yourselves with them.

Let's discuss one of the biggest misconceptions about women:

All women want guys who treat them like shit.

No, actually they don't. Here's why:

It's not that women want to be treated like shit. We have several women here on the forum, and I highly doubt that any of them woke up one morning, looked in the mirror and said, "Gee, I think today I will go find some guy who will rip my frickin' heart out, throw it on the ground, and stomp on it."

Women are looking for a challenge. They don't want a push-over. Women also look at guys the way we look at our RX-7's. Does the phrase "diamond in the rough" ring any bells? Sure, the car smells. It squeeks. It idles like crap. But, with enough work, you know you can make it into something really nice. That's why girls go after less than ideal guys. They want somebody they can nurture and mold. It's part of their mothering side. They honestly believe that "he can see the light, and then he'll truly appreciate me."

But, guess what? They eventually get tired of it, some faster than others. Nobody wants to be anybody else's doormat. So, while some people go, "Yeah, treat 'em like shit!" those are the same guys who will end up 40 years old and alone.

Now, I'm not saying you have to kiss her ass or worship her... That's going too far on the opposite end of the spectrum. Nobody wants someone to be their bitch, either. Just be respectful without going overboard. I'm not telling anybody to write poems or sing songs or send flowers daily... If it's not in your nature to do those things, then don't force them.

Which leads to tonight's topic:

"Why are you trying so hard???"

i just wanna shouw up in the first page...THIS MAN GAVE ME MY FIRST BLOW JOB!!!! um because of his advice....he didn't give me the blow job...a woman did....yeah........ill stop talking now

"Why are you trying so hard???"

This will be the culmination of a bunch of other threads and posts.


You ever notice that when you have a girlfriend, you seem to get hit on a lot more?

You ever notice that when you don't have a girlfriend, it seems like women avoid you like the plague?

The explanation to this is really simple. When you have a girlfriend, you generally aren't browsing the menu with such zeal as when you are single. You aren't trying to impress anyone, you are not even thinking about it. That is the key.

Nobody likes a guy who is trying too hard. Most women don't like a guy who is trying at all. When you're single, you generally look at every woman who crosses your path, sizing them up like the Terminator looking for matching clothes. Too short, too tall, too skinny, too fat, just plain ugly, etc, etc. Women can tell that you're doing it, too. When you are on the prowl, you behave dramatically different than when you are in a relationship. While yes, when you are dating someone, you still look at other girls (we all do it, it's ok) it's generally a glance, not an inventory.

Of course, that's just part of the difference. Another thing that happens when you have a relationship is that you also develop an air of confidence you might not have had when you were single. Let's be honest here: Every time you go up to ask a girl out or strike up a conversation, you have about a 95% chance of being shot down... Unless of course, you're Brad Pitt or something. I'm sure that if I was single, I would be getting shot down just as much as any of you, and I know what the hell I'm doing. Anyway, you have a 95% chance of failure, and let's be honest, it takes a lot of courage to face those kind of odds. After enough times getting shot down, you get a kind of reflex to it where you go up believing you will fail. And trust me, it shows. Believe it enough, and it will end up becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy, and that will wreck your confidence.

Another little difference between being single and being in a relationship. Guys who are in a relationship tend to be "neater" than guys who aren't. They dress better, take care of their grooming, etc, etc. Guys who are single tend to do one of two things: Either they become total slobs, or they go to the opposite extreme, over-dressing for everything, wearing too much cologne, etc, etc. I knew this kid Jason when I was in high school that would dress up for everything... We all went to Magic Mountain (an amusement park in SoCal) and he comes up in a silk shirt, meticulously (look it up, it's a good word to know) ironed pants, and patent leather shoes... And he must have showered in cologne that morning...

*side note: Cologne rules are simple. Spray it in the air in front of you three times, walk through it, you're done. We all thank you.*

... Needless to say, we were all embarassed to have him with us. Who wears $250 shoes to a fuckin' amusement park? And, everywhere we went, you could hear the giggles. "They must really think I'm hot," he said at one point. We're like, "Yeah, that must be it."

Jason was trying waaaaay too hard, and in this case they really could smell it.

The trick is to not really care. So what if you get shot down? So what if she has a boyfriend? It's not the end of the world. In the long run, it doesn't really matter. The good thing about going up to a girl and getting shot down is that it's practice. It helps you tune your technique.

Did any of you ever see "Office Space"? The part where the guy goes up to Jennifer Aniston and says, "You know, I want to have lunch with you." She says, "We're not really supposed to date customers." So he says, "Tell you what. I'm going to go next door and have lunch. If you want to come over and join me, great. If not, that's cool too."

That's the type of attitude you need to have. If she says yes, great. If she doesn't say yes, great.

No matter what happens, never take it personally. Never get upset, don't beat yourself up, and even if she was a nasty bitch about telling you no, always be the bigger person.


PART 2

This is mostly for the guys already in relationships or who are looking for advice for girls that have said "yes" and are prepping for dates.

Why are YOU trying so hard???

Let's remember a couple basic ground rules here:

Never try to be something you're not. Let's say your girlfriend writes you little poems everyday, but you're not the poetic type. Don't think you need to be. Don't think you have to respond in kind. Never try to compete on something like that. If your girlfriend does something for you from the heart, just accept it with gratitude. You don't have to keep score, it's not a race.

Another thing... Nobody is under the impression that you are some sort of Cassanova. You don't have to go all out every single time trying to impress her. Sending flowers or whatnot is fine occasionally, but going overboard makes you look bad. Nobody wants roses every week. Be a bit unpredictable. Be a bit random. And, if sending you flowers isn't really "your thing" then don't do it. Why be fake? If it's not genuine, if it's not from your heart, she'll know it. Never do something just to go through the motions.

I think hes talking to himself

From another thread:


And another thing... What is it with perfume/lotion sets... Am I always expected to buy one of these? I look and she's got 50 damn bottles of various perfumes.. great, I guess she doesn't need that for Christmas or whatever... So I bought her a couple DVD's she'd been looking at watching... And my stepbrother's like NO, you gotta buy them perfume and lotion and shit like that...


That's where he's wrong. Buying perfume every single time sends the following message: I don't know enough about you to know what you like.

You're a smart enough guy to know when all appropriate gift giving holidays are. Plan in advance for them... Pay attention to what she likes, then buy accordingly.

DVD's are ok, as long as you have something a little more meaningful every now and again too... For example, I bought my wife a computer game she wanted... The next time, I bought her a diamond and platinum necklace... You have to balance. You can't go all out all the time, or they don't mean anything, and you can't be Mr. DVD, because believe me, that shit will get back to her friends, and they'll start pouring poison in her ear until she dumps your ass.



So, the message here is pretty simple: Be yourself. Don't try. Never take anything personally.


Next topid: How do I know if she's interested?

The question on the table is, "Where can I meet women besides bars and parties?"

Um, pretty much anywhere. There are over 3 billion women on the planet, so where ever you go, they're there. They're everywhere.

Alright, now that we've gotten the obvious out of the way, let's be a bit more specific.

A lot of guys will say "the gym", but in all actuality, that's the worst place ever. Women are great at finding flaws in their appearance, and the last place they want to attract guys is where they are the most critical of their bodies... The vast majority of women go to the gym to actually work out, and loathe guys who try to hit on them when they are there to sweat.

A lot of other guys will say "How about the Library?" Well, yes, and no. If she's in the middle of reading or studying and is obviously quiet and focused, leave her the hell alone. If she's browsing the aisles, then it's pretty much like the grocery store scenario.

Now, for those of you in college, I can give you the ultimate place to meet girls.

Ready?

American Sign Language class.

First off, ASL 1 is easy.

Now, here's how it will break down. You'll be one in a class of about 30. Of the 30, 25 will be women. 10 will be fat and ugly. 10 will be in the 5-7 on a scale of 10 range. 5 will be 8 or above. Of the 5 guys, there will be one fat ugly guy, one total dork, one gay guy, one old guy, and you.

Look at those odds.

Trust me on this, I used to be an interpreter, and I cleaned up when I was in ASL class.

More to come later on this topic...

$100T2

I think hes talking to himself

No, I am trying to copy and paste all the lessons from the other place before this gets cluttered.

The question on the table is

"How do you overcome the "comparison" factor when meeting new girls?

If you don't get what I mean, comparing to other girls that you've been with or would like to get with in a way that your interest just drops with the new girls you're meeting..."


The absolute biggest mistake you can make is comparing any girl to any other. I know that's easier said than done, but it's for the best. Never mention other girls to her either. Why?

She is going to want to compare herself anyway. You tell her about any other girls you've dated or whatever, she's gonna want to know how much better she is in bed, how much prettier, how much nicer, etc, etc. And you will have to lie your ass off. All you have to say is, "They're in the past. You're in my present and future." That's the easiest way to get out of that argument, because trust me, it will be an argument all right.

So, the easiest way to overcome the "comparison factor" is not to do it. Any questions?

Here's the thing I always had a problem with:

How do you know if she likes you?

I get PMed about that between 5 and 10 times a week. "$100, how can you tell if a girl is interested?"

See, that's where guys are screwed. If we like a girl, it's up to us to just go up, be direct, put our emotions on the line, risk the chance of getting shot down or hurt, and ask them out. I've always said that if women were the ones taking that risk, they would never turn a guy down again. They have no clue how tough it is to get up the courage to ask them out.

(Now, I know a couple of you are thinking, "No, man, I have no problem doing that." To that I say the following: Bullshit.)

So, let's think of ways to even the playing field a bit, shall we? I know that getting shot down is all part of life's learning curve, but let's at least get the ratio down a bit.

First off: Are you playing with your league? No offense, but you need to take an assessment of yourself. If she's playing in Yankee Stadium and you're a bat boy in the bus leagues, chances are you need to lower your standards a bit. Not everyone is going to date a supermodel, ok?

Second: Do you at least have some sort of positive conversation going? By positive, I mean, is she not making the aforementioned look of someone willing to gnaw their arm off to get away from you?

*Let's take a brief detour. If she is constantly "uh-huh"ing you and not really adding anything to the conversation, the conversation is over and you are S.O.L.*

Back on point: You should be able to at least sense some sort of interest. One thing that is important is NOT to get carried away with how much you are attracted to her or anything like that. If you are interested, look for positive signs and go for it. Don't drag your feet, just suck it up and try.

*side note: Do NOT under any circumstances mention her to your friends until you've gotten the digits, or preferably until you've had a date. The reason? It'll make you look stupid if it doesn't happen, or, if she's a freak/idiot/psycho you can pretend it never happened at all. Plus, it's bad luck. *

So, what are some of the signs that she's interested? Glad you asked.

If she touches you a lot. (Noticably more than she touches anyone else) Unless of course, it's to shove you away.

Constant eye contact, lots of smiling, interested in keeping you involved in the conversation.

If she carves your name in her arm with a pocketknife. No, wait, that's bad.

Basically, it's all common sense. The difficulty is in judging whether she likes you as a friend or as in potential boyfriend material, and the easiest way to sidestep that one is to ask her out early enough in the game so that she hasn't decided yet.

From a previous thread... Just thought I would include it in here:

You and a woman are looking at the sky. She looks up and says, "Wow, the sky is pink." You look up at the sky, and, to you, it is clearly blue.

What you guys need to understand is that even though you see the sky is blue, she sees pink. It doesn't make her wrong, it doesn't make her different... It's just how she sees things.

The problem most guys have is that they can't step outside of their own thought processes. You expect her to respond how YOU would respond, because you are only familiar with the male thought pattern.

I'm not telling you to think the way that she thinks. You don't have to look up and see pink. All you need to do is understand that to her, it's pink. You don't need her to see it the way you do, you don't need to see it the way she sees it. Just understand the difference.

You can all send thank you notes to my Dad for that.

OK here is a good question that i have worried about.
First time in bed with your new girl. Do you go all out and make your best moves,or do you keep something back for next time? e.g. Do you let her take the lead or do you take the lead?


The first time in bed with a new girl should be all about her. You need to learn what she likes and what she doesn't like, and you want to knock her socks off so that she'll want to make it a regular occurance. You may not have to bust out all of your moves and keep some in reserve, but you definitely want to make sure she has a really good time.


I have always ask a girl in advance what she likes in bed.( not in those exact words.) Then i follow from her lead.e.g. Like some girls won't go down on any guy but they enjoy a guy going down on them. How would you deal with these types of women?


Well, you have to look at it from a personal perspective. If you love getting her to go down on you, and she refuses, A) that's her prerogative, and B) maybe she's not the girl for you. Maybe the reason why she doesn't like it is because she's had some bad experiences, maybe she's not really sure how to do it, etc, etc... If you can get her to talk about it, that would help.

Now, as far as her wanting you to go down on her, but she won't reciprocate, don't make it into a "you do for me, I do for you" type of thing. Your only guide should be whether you want to or not, not because you expect something out of it. You start doing that, and then sex will seem like a job to both of you, and it won't be fun. Before anything else, sex should be fun (yes, despite what el Bible says, it isn't just for procreation anymore.)

Ok, here's one (actually, two) for you:

1. How do you know if it's love? Not lust, not infatuation, not just like...

2. What sacrifices is love worth? By that I mean, if it really is love, what should a person be willing to give to make the relationship with the person they love work?


I was originally going to break these apart and answer them separately, but I realized it will be easier to tackle them together.

Let's see if we can sort a couple things out right off the bat...

(Remember, these are merely my opinions...)

You've all seen the Olympic rings, right? Notice how all the circles overlap in certain areas, yet there are large parts of the circles that don't? That's how a relationship should work. You can have lots of things in common, but you also need to have things individually... When you talk about "what should a person be willing to give to make it work?" my first thought is, it shouldn't really take a lot of work... If you have to constantly work at it, then it's not working. Now, let's clarify that a bit: I know that relationships take a certain amount of constant work, and that some days you might love each other less than others... No relationship is ever going to be perfect. But if you find yourself in constant never-ending battles to make things work, it's not healthy. It's one thing to be cognizant and respectful of each others wants and desires, it's another to have to try to completely change who and what you are.

Relationships are all about respect, cooperation and compromise. It shouldn't be about effort, reining yourself in, or changing who you are.

Now, as far as "how do I know if it's love", the answer to that is extremely complex... There's a reason 90% of songs are about love or the lack thereof... There are lots of people who are in love, but how exactly to describe it? I can tell you one thing about my wife: I know if the shit hits the fan, there is no one in the world I would rather be around to have my back than her. I know that when push comes to shove, it's me and her (and now our son) against the world if needs be. I guess that's how I know I love her, is that I would put her needs over my own.

One thing you NEVER, EVER do is leave notes/roses on cars of someone you are not in a ROCK STEADY relationship with. You know what? Change that. Don't do it at all. Nothing says "psycho stalker" like popping by and leaving notes. Happen to drive by her work? Pop in and take her to lunch. But do it extremely sparingly. By extremely sparingly, I mean maybe once a year. More than that? Call ahead and see if she can go. You start popping by to surprise her all the time, she's gonna think you are checking up on her and are a total control freak. Don't do that.

Now, unless you are in middle school or lower, NO NOTES OF ANY KIND, especially on her car or at her home. If you want to leave her a note to brighten her day, then mail that fucker. If you want to do something that day to brighten her day, spend the extra money and have flowers or candy or something delivered...

I know that in that first thread he said he heard it "worked like a charm" but in the second thread you will notice he said that it ended up NOT working.

Trust me on this. Be mature, be a grown up, go to the post office and buy a roll of stamps, save your pennies and pay for a delivery guy. This is imperitive.

OK... Let's tackle both of these together:

When a girl cheats on you and wants you back, or when you cheat on a girl and you want her back...

Make them slit the throat of the person they cheated with on video.



All kidding aside, here's my PERSONAL take on cheating.

Cheating is total bullshit. If you want to sleep with someone else, by all means do so... AFTER you break off your current relationship. You should at least respect the person you are with enough to spare them the needless hurt or anguish caused by infidelity. I work with a woman who just left husband number FOUR for another man, who was also married, by the way... And it's the second time she has left a husband for another man... And that bitch actually tries to JUSTIFY IT. "It's o.k. because..." No, actually, it's NOT ok.

So, for those of you who want to make amends to the people you've cheated on, you really need to take a hard look at your actions and see if what YOU have to offer THEM is worth them taking you back. It's really easy to come crawling back with "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry" but do you really mean it? Was it a one time thing? What happens next time?

For those of you who have been cheated on, do you think anything will ever erase that betrayal? Would you want someone in your life who can't use basic human judgment?

My wife always says there are two types of people in the world: The ones who bring you up, and the ones who drag you down. What kind of people do you guys want in your lives? I personally wouldn't want the fact that the person I'm in a relationship with has a history of cheating hanging over my head.

So, as far as the cheater wanting you back... That's a decision only you can make. Just remember the old saying: Hurt me once, that's on you, hurt me twice, that's on me. I personally don't think there's any acceptable reason or excuse... Drunk, old flame, whatever, it's all bullshit.

As far as being a cheater and wanting someone back, like I said before, take a good hard look in the mirror and see if you are really good enough for the person you want to be with.

Alright, I got something for you.

I've been friends with this girl for like 3 years, and we've been pretty good friends for maybe around a year. A few weeks ago I kinda just had an empthany or something that i really like her.


Describe the epiphany... All of a sudden, you just realized... What brought it about? Lonely? Recently single? Or, you finally figured out you were missing something? Or, did she describe her amazing blowjob skills?


She just came out of a really shitty relationship


How recently?


like alot of her boyfriends get really jealous and over protective because she has alot of friends that are guys, and she's just kinda burned out on the whole relationship thing, so I figured that even if I were to come out and say something I should prolly wait until she's ready for a relationship again. So, I guess in short I'm asking, is there any good way to tell a friend you have feelings for them, and when do you think would be a good time to come out with telling her. I really don't want to mess up our friendship, like we're pretty close so I just don't want to make things weird and ruin that. That's prolly not possible but I maybe there's something I can do to at least make those odds a bit better if she's not interested.


That's very mature of you to want to wait until the timing is right for her. I'm impressed.

However, you can tell her now without alienating her. The easiest way to do it would be something along the lines of:

"Hey, Becky, I have to be honest here. I was really happy to see that you and Rupert Humperdink broke up, because I've always felt that you should be treated better than how you've been treated... And lately, I've been thinking about it alot, and I would like to be the guy who treats you better. I understand that you're not really ready for anything now, and you might be burned out on the whole relationship thing, but I know I would regret it if I didn't tell you how I feel and you ended up with someone else. I just want you to know, I enjoy our friendship, and that if and when you're ready, I would love to have the chance to see if we can develop into more than what we already have."

The reason why that approach would work nicely is, there is NO pressure. She doesn't have to say yes or no right there, and if she's not interested, she can just let time pass by without ripping your heart out and stomping on it.

"My girlfriend told me she needs time to figure things out... How do I handle this?"

The answer is both simple and complex...

Number one: Give her the time and space she needs. Many guys make the mistake of coming on twice as strong, thinking that they need to make more of an effort.

Number two: In keeping with the above theme, don't do any of the following:

Call.
Send flowers.
Send gifts.
Get her name tattooed on any part of your body.
Call her friends.
Call her family.

*side note: Unless you are planning a surprise party for her, there should be NO need for you to EVER call ANY of her friends for ANY reason, unless A) they were your friends first and you're still close or B) they are mutual friends you made together as a couple. Her friends are already burdened with your problems by her. They don't want to hear about it from you, too.*

Number three: Brace yourself for the fact that it might be over. Now, that doesn't mean you go whoring with your buddies, and you don't have to box up and return everything she ever gave you... Just be prepared for the possibility that your ass will be single. Do NOT go sleeping around, because if things DO work out, "We were on a break" will not fly with her... See episodes of "Friends" for examples. If she wants space, you have to keep her trust intact. You ARE allowed to clarify exactly what the rules are when she broaches the subject, but be careful on your phrasing, lest she think you are anxious to bone everything in sight.

<more to come later>

Alright, here goes:

How do I have confidence?

Well, here's the great thing about confidence: You can TOTALLY FAKE IT. Confidence is totally and completely unnecessary. All you need to do is remember some basic facts of life. You can take notes if you want.

1) Never assume anything. Never assume anything. Never assume anything. Got it yet?

So what if she's the prettiest girl around? So what if she's Helen of Troy? Who gives a shit? It doesn't mean she's a stuck up bitch. It doesn't mean she has a boyfriend. It doesn't mean anything at all. All it means is, you're attracted to her. Don't assume you're not good enough (unless of course, you remember my previous thread about her batting clean-up in Yankee Stadium, and you being a bat boy in the bus leagues.) If you are an 8 and she is a 10, you still have a shot, champ. If you are a 4 and she is a 10, better off trying your luck elsewhere... Unless she has a thing for Danny DeVito or something. Never assume she'll automatically turn you down. If you are going to go ask a girl out, she's gonna say yes. You just have to believe in yourself. If you don't believe in yourself, no one else is going to, either.

2) Never take anything personally.

If she says no, it's not the end of the world. Look at Michael Jordan: The guy got cut from his 9th grade basketball team. Then he goes on to be the best basketball player in the world. I've seen games where he missed 10 shots in a row, it didn't stop him from shooting the next 10, now did it? This all goes back to believing in yourself. Sure, you can get turned down 100 times in a row, but you know what? That means NOTHING. Not a goddamned thing. Maybe the timing wasn't right. Maybe those 100 girls just weren't the right ones for you. Life is so full of maybes, you just never know. Never EVER worry about being "on a cold streak". There is NO such thing with women. Look at each woman individually, for every woman is unique. If she turns you down, it's not anybody's fault. There is no one to blame. Maybe there was no chemistry, maybe she had a boyfriend, maybe she was a lesbian... Whatever. It doesn't matter. Brush it off and go for the next one.

Take every single opportunity to meet/date a woman as what it is: A chance to learn. For every time you get shot down, look at it as practice. Figure out what you can fine tune.

You go out on a date... Who pays?


General rule of thumb: The person who asks the other one out does the paying. I ask a girl if I can take her out to dinner, I pay. She asks me out, I would still pay, at least for the first date. Even if she insisted, I would still pay. You don't want to seem like a cheap skate. If she says, "Well, I told you I was taking you out to dinner" and you want to see her again, say, "Well, then you can take me to lunch tomorrow." If things are going reaaaaaaaaaaaaally well, then say, "Fine, you can buy me breakfast in the morning." Just do it with a really big smile so you can laugh it off if she gets offended.


Include all applicable situations. First dates, subsequent dates... Special occasions...


Back when I was dating, I paid for any special occasion, except for my birthday. Usually, I would pay for the more expensive things (dinner, theater tickets, sporting event tickets) and she would grab lunch, snacks at the ballpark, etc.


Also, I have a knack for hooking up with very indecisive chicks, or chicks that are used to a guy that takes charge. I am not a commanding guy. I'm not downright submissive though either. If I don't wanna do something I say it.


Well, if you're gonna ask a girl out, have something specific in mind beforehand... You do NOT want to ask her out and then have the "I don't know, what do YOU want to do" conversation.


Usually I ask the girl where does she wanna go... (To dinner, what movie to see, where to gou out on a date, what she's in the mood for, etc.) She says "I dunno"... I list some suggestions... She says "Whatever you wanna do." On more than one occasion, I've suggested doing things or going places that the girl did not wanna go... She ends up not having a good time and I feel bad for it.


That's why you set it up beforehand. One other thing that works great is to give options. "Do you want me to pick you up at 7 or 8?" "Do you want to go see 'Shrek 2' or 'Troy'?" "Do you want to give me head or give me a blow job?" (That last one was a trick question.) Give them options, let them pick one. Easy enough, right?


So far I've tried, "We're staying here till you pick something." It doesn't work, so I assume it's the wrong thing to do.


*I just pimp slapped you for that*


It's VERY hard to get to know someone and what they like if they don't open up, hence my DVD/Perfume incident.


To quote "Oz" in "American Pie":

"All you gotta do is ask 'em questions, and listen to what they say and shit."


I don't read people all that well either. However, I'm usually an open book... It's cause I choose to be. I want the girl to get to know who I am.


Yeah, sure you are. Trust me, they are all just as puzzled as you are. I guarantee you that every single girl any one of you has ever dated has said the following:

"What the fuck is he thinking?"

If you have a question, ask her. It's easy enough, and it will have her tricked into thinking you are interested.

Alright, go ahead and post... It's gonna take me forever to cut and paste that shit.

holy shit its all the lessons put together! except for one small interruption, its pretty amazing

sup sup francis!!!

sorry bro-didn't mean to fuck up your flow....I didn't realize what was going on.

Don't sweat it.

Somebody stickied this... It wasn't me. Fuck, remember how the other place, people were BEGGING for it to be stickied?

sorry bro-didn't mean to fuck up your flow....I didn't realize what was going on.


ditto

It's gonna take me a while but I'm talking to him about making an easily navigable site for it as a project to... remember some scripting languages.

Holy shit!! That's all I gotta say.

Good to see ya over here $100t2

You too Onlyonthurs

im going to start college come september. any advice on how i should approach the college life?

Sure. Try a bit of everything.

And, if you want easy ass, sign up for American Sign Language class.

You never helped me out on rx7club, you didnt help me because somone was being stupid. I still find it impossible to tell if a girl is giving me signals to go in for the kill or not :(

There's a post in this thread about that, FTC.

There's a post in this thread about that, FTC.


I know, i read it. it is still confusing for me. I just suck at women.

I know, i read it. it is still confusing for me. I just suck at women.
you don't suck at women;they suck at communicating

God ok my situation SCREAMS "cheater". But maybe I am wrong.

My wife took a new job as a bartender. At first it was cool, the money was decent and it pays the bills. But her behavior with the new job has turned strange. She stays out later than her bar stays open, I'm not talking about an hour. Once she came home at 5, another time it was 4. And the place closes at 2. last call is at 1:30.

Here recently she has had her so called "regulars" calling her phone. Even though she promised me she would give them my number just so she could make the extra tips. She has also had some gifts that seem a little odd. I dont picture myself giving these to a bartender. She has received a new set of tires. She told me some guy will rebuild her transmission for a very cheap rate.

The more I think about this the more and more it seems like she is cheating. If not yet shes close. The other point I think she is holding out on me. She puts all her tips in my desk drawer so when i goto work i deposit them in the atm. she doesnt want to do this at 3 am. so its my job. but I am wondering if she is holding out or just giving it all to me to try to keep me preoccupied while these so called "regulars" buy her stuff?

I am looking for your take on this.

maybe she is just having some fun? i wouldnt go and tell her what you think first though. get someone she doesnt know thats a friend of yours to scope out the situation at the bar and report back on the findings. i hope she isnt cheating though.

God ok my situation SCREAMS "cheater". But maybe I am wrong.

My wife took a new job as a bartender. At first it was cool, the money was decent and it pays the bills. But her behavior with the new job has turned strange. She stays out later than her bar stays open, I'm not talking about an hour. Once she came home at 5, another time it was 4. And the place closes at 2. last call is at 1:30.

Here recently she has had her so called "regulars" calling her phone. Even though she promised me she would give them my number just so she could make the extra tips. She has also had some gifts that seem a little odd. I dont picture myself giving these to a bartender. She has received a new set of tires. She told me some guy will rebuild her transmission for a very cheap rate.

The more I think about this the more and more it seems like she is cheating. If not yet shes close. The other point I think she is holding out on me. She puts all her tips in my desk drawer so when i goto work i deposit them in the atm. she doesnt want to do this at 3 am. so its my job. but I am wondering if she is holding out or just giving it all to me to try to keep me preoccupied while these so called "regulars" buy her stuff?

I am looking for your take on this.

Any time you put your woman into a new surrouding you're looking at competiton. I'm sure you're aware of that but a bartender? That's ASKING for people to hit on her. I know half of the bars I go to the bar tender is the only one WORTH hitting on and 90% of them are hoes. The first thing drunk guys do is hit on the bartender. The tire, being out way too late and phone number stuff seem a little weird to me. I'd follow her one night after last call and see what's up or at least just meet her out in the parking lot with flowers to cover yourself from being the jealous asshole you'd be perceived as for confronting her at work. Just kind of hang back where she can't notice if she walks out with someone. Also, you have access to the phone bills, look for any number that shows up a lot. Hell, this isn't my thread though but good luck :)

If she has any idea you might suspect something then go with damnitsfrancis's idea. Otherwise, your probably good to drop in with flowers. Dont go looking through phone bills though, because if shes really not doing anything and catches wind of that level of snooping, your in deep shit. But I guess it really comes down to how much you trust her now doesn't it?

Personally, I would have a buddy (find one on here, it seems that there are a lot of members here in your area) go over there and see what's what.

Bottom line: If you have a gut feeling something is going on, that means something's going on.

I may make location a required field. I really like knowing where people are from.

Cheating. Who buys a girl tires for friendship??? c'mon don't be a sap

Another thing: It's one thing to get gifts if you're a stripper... Bartender getting gifts? That's cheating right there.

God ok my situation SCREAMS "cheater". But maybe I am wrong.

My wife took a new job as a bartender. At first it was cool, the money was decent and it pays the bills. But her behavior with the new job has turned strange. She stays out later than her bar stays open, I'm not talking about an hour. Once she came home at 5, another time it was 4. And the place closes at 2. last call is at 1:30.

Here recently she has had her so called "regulars" calling her phone. Even though she promised me she would give them my number just so she could make the extra tips. She has also had some gifts that seem a little odd. I dont picture myself giving these to a bartender. She has received a new set of tires. She told me some guy will rebuild her transmission for a very cheap rate.

The more I think about this the more and more it seems like she is cheating. If not yet shes close. The other point I think she is holding out on me. She puts all her tips in my desk drawer so when i goto work i deposit them in the atm. she doesnt want to do this at 3 am. so its my job. but I am wondering if she is holding out or just giving it all to me to try to keep me preoccupied while these so called "regulars" buy her stuff?

I am looking for your take on this.


wheres your wife work

Yeah, have 2ndgen. go by there and hit on her and see what's what.

Ok here is a good hook up scenario for everyone.

I am off work chilling talking to everyone. A female worker is in the group communication, she tends to linger her eye a little more to me and when I catch her making eye contact she will smile. So in short time I make a brief communication with her singled out to her. A basic introduction and blahh blahh. I notice she has a very open body and smiling allot.

Now the next day wile working totally keep your job professional. When she tries to communicate with me don’t blow her off but keep responses short and continue working. As well respond back with body language of I am interested as well.

Now later that night towards end of day I make the effort to see what’s up. Before she leaves I say hey I we could hang out some time. Waiting for the no go to hell or the yeah that would be nice. I get the yeah so I reply I will give you my number and you can give me a call whenever, then we can see what is going on.

The key here after establishing you are both interested was not to make her feel bound or fear I will call her every waking moment. The ball was put into her court signifying that yea I am not obsessed stalker and it plays no role on my life. Such as staying up all night waiting for a phone call.

Remember be unique witty and aloof. Using sophisticated words and catchy humor.

We meet up a few days later and she can only think about seconds.

Ok here is a good hook up scenario for everyone.

I am off work chilling talking to everyone. A female worker is in the group communication, she tends to linger her eye a little more to me and when I catch her making eye contact she will smile. So in short time I make a brief communication with her singled out to her. A basic introduction and blahh blahh. I notice she has a very open body and smiling allot.

Now the next day wile working totally keep your job professional. When she tries to communicate with me don’t blow her off but keep responses short and continue working. As well respond back with body language of I am interested as well.

Now later that night towards end of day I make the effort to see what’s up. Before she leaves I say hey I we could hang out some time. Waiting for the no go to hell or the yeah that would be nice. I get the yeah so I reply I will give you my number and you can give me a call whenever, then we can see what is going on.

The key here after establishing you are both interested was not to make her feel bound or fear I will call her every waking moment. The ball was put into her court signifying that yea I am not obsessed stalker and it plays no role on my life. Such as staying up all night waiting for a phone call.

Remember be unique witty and aloof. Using sophisticated words and catchy humor.

We meet up a few days later and she can only think about seconds.


Thank you for poorly rephrasing other points I've already covered. Good job! sarcasm

Ok here is a good hook up scenario for everyone....
.....................We meet up a few days later and she can only think about seconds.
Dooode, you owe us bewbie pics!!!!

Could be she's giving out "good" drinks or free drinks, and that's how she's getting repaid. I've seen it before at the bar I hang out at.

But yeah, being a bartender means she's going to get hit on, AND she's going to be flirty with the guy customers. Flirty = better tips. I've seen some crazy shit from bartenders, and a friend of mine is one. She's not too crazy, but has her moments. She also sometimes stays out late after work, but it's to go hang out with waitresses and smoke some weed usually. She's married and has two kids.

Then again, I went out with her and some of the other girls that work there one night, and she kind of grabbed my crotch at one point. So yeah... :dunno:

Why can’t wemon just learn to be content with there choice of the man they married "This goes for you to men"? Everyone is so frigin greedy these days they don’t only want to know if the grass is greener on the other side they want to know what it tastes like everywhere.

People anyone who reads this please be a man or a woman and respect your partner and your love. When you get familiar with someone it is very easy to be attracted for a short time to new side b/c it is something new and fresh and unique. You all need to remind yourself that I am here b/c I fell in love and why you fell in love and so forth. Remember you made a oath and a obligation to the other person to respect them and yourself.

In my journeys I have finally realized that when you truly find a love there is nothing in this world worth losing that over. Relationships are hard and you must work 10x as hard. If you find that love do yourself a favor and hold them tight for the rest of your life, do not stray you will regret doing so causing a pain forever.

Here is a few quotes that may help you relies your roles in life and what it means to be a man.

The ultimate ability of a human is the willingness to lay down your life to bettor that of another. Love is the only possibility to self enlightment of that to sacrifice your life for another’s. – Ice Blue

To be a man is to care for a woman for herself. A true man will through all disregard wile endangering himself at all cost to bring that of a beloved woman’s self-respect, and safety to her heart, so that she may remember him at all times throughout her life, so that she may look inside his deeds that it may bring her the strength within to press on through all choices that may challenge her throughout life. When his time has ended, a hero unto many he will become, a legend unto the weak, an inspiration onto the enlightened. – Ice Blue

I think a big problem is more and more people are getting married too quickly and for the wrong reasons.

For instance, my friend I mentioned above... she was in a TERRIBLE relationship, met her future husband and they were engaged within six months I believe.

Call me old-fashioned, but that's not the longest time to be dating. :dunno:

$100T2, is the fucken man. He's the one person that actually gave me advice. :bigthumb:

Arggggghhhhh!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/mstpos24/argh-matey.jpg

^ Right.

Just to give an update, this thing is sliding down hill quickly. She told me that on monday, a day i just happen to be working, she is going to meet this guy who works at barnes and noble. since he gets a discount she said to write down a list of books i want.

wtf mate? anyone else seeing a problem with this or am i making shit up in my head?

I'm not sure TJ, you might be blowing things out of porportion. Bars close at 2am, but it takes a least an hour or 2 to clean up, tally your register, count your tips,etc. And after work bartenders usually hang out together to bullshit on the nights events,jerk off customers,etc. I think if she was cheating, she wouldn't have even brought up meeting someone and then asking you what books you wanted. Its true, bartenders,esp. female, HAVE to be flirty with customers for tips, but as long as she comes home to you, I wouldn't worry. If she doesn't come home, then you have a problem. Just my :2cents:

if there is a change in wanting sex, how often, etc, id worry.

Yea if your together a long time you develop a pattern and a sexual pattern. When these deviate for more then 2 weeks then I would start to wori. It is very posible she is just getting books. None the less she is interested in the person in some way or another to hang out with them. If not and she is using them, I would take another look at your girl and your relationship and think hard about being with that kind of person. Unlike most men girls are totaly capable of hanging out with a guy and compleatly keeping it a aquantince and never going any farther or letting him try.

Dont swet it. Most people are understanding people. You should sit her down and exsplain to her what you did us. That her bartending can make you easly uneasy. That you are just a wori body over it and do not want anything to happen. Exsplain that you meet new guys and hang out it just feels odd. And you would feel bettor if she would comunicate the stuff that goes on and indepth about things like this. If she loves you she will be more then happy to exsplain and work with you to feel comfortable and tend to what needs you ahve at moment. You still have to meet her half way now. If she balls up and defensive so forth then she is hiding something or does not care enugh about your relationship to further it as needed.

Good post, iceblue, but for the love of god-Learn To Spell. And remember: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/wonner/AllWomen.jpg

TJ, I say you have somebody local from the forum that has some "game" go over there, get flirty, and see what happens. 2ndgen.rocket would probably be a good choice, I think he's nearby and could pull it off.

TJ, I say you have somebody local from the forum that has some "game" go over there, get flirty, and see what happens. 2ndgen.rocket would probably be a good choice, I think he's nearby and could pull it off.


He will be sent ASAP.

This could turn into an absolutely AWESOME scenario....

BTW, the pic I posted was for Oneflytrini... since that's his girl.

I'd covertly dispatch someone to the bar myself to see what's up from that angle. I'd also let the lady know that if she's meeting guys outside work these guys are going to get the wrong idea. If she's bright enough this will also put her on notice that you are getting uncomfortable with what's going on.

All I have to say is yes, listen to this guy. He really seems to know what he's talking about...

haha And yeah, definitely take American Sign Language.

All I have to say is yes, listen to this guy. He really seems to know what he's talking about...

haha And yeah, definitely take American Sign Language.


The mystery has been solved...

So I'm going back to school tomorrow. Anything I should keep in mind for the ladies?

Wash your balls...

So I'm going back to school tomorrow. Anything I should keep in mind for the ladies?

Yep. Lay back and let the other guys try too hard and look like dicks. :D

My good buddy's new girlfriend is a complete slut. I'm about the only guy in the neighborhood that she hasn't fucked, and that because I know that she's been passed around more than a crack pipe in Bobby and Whitney's mansion. If you put a gun to my head, I wouldn't hit it. She may have STD's that haven't been discovered yet.

How do I keep my dude out of harm's way without looking like an asshole? 99% of these situations I've seen end with the whipped bastard believing that the guy in my position is jealous and scheming.

You would be surprised at how friends react to honesty that is presented in a mature manner. Don't come at him with "dude, she's a slut..." Present it in a better way, ask to talk to him when he has a minute, so he'll be prepared for something serious.

"You're my boy and all..and I really dont mean to cock block you or try to control you, but... I hate to see you get involved with someone like this..."

Never be afraid of looking like a "pussy" in situations where you DO care about the individual. Obviously you do, or you'd be giving him a high-5 for screwing some slut. However, some people have no other goal in life, except for sex. I know lots of people like this, and it's quite sad. So, take the method above as I said.... He may "see the light", or he may continue to screw her....but if presented in the right manner, you wont be thought of as a "pussy" or "scheming' because you're jealous.

Oh, he thinks he's her one-and-only. She's fucking anything that walks. That's what makes it reeeeeeeeeeeallly hard.

TJ.....update???