http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/achieve-happiness-by-creating-a-life-lie/

Discuss.

That seems to hold true for most of the people I know.

If I have a Life Lie I couldn't tell you what it is, I'm just content to be who I am. And maybe thats my Life Lie...

god, of course, is the biggest grandest lie of them all.

this explains the frantic hate we atheists receive from Believers, we dare to call their lie a lie, which means they might have to give up their nice safe comfortable lie and deal with the spooky real world without the support the lie {god} affords them.

Would you be offended if I called you predictable? :P

Would you be offended if I called you predictable? :P

Really though, who here isn't?

give me something to work with.

y'all say I must be miserable because I do not share in your life lie

not accepting I might use an equally effective lie.

in keeping with my traditional approach, how about we flip the premise.
instead of creating happiness with a life lie shall we look at how a religious life lie creates unhappiness ?

starting with how looking forward to death, and so the afterlife, causes neglect of the future here on earth.

{better ?}

edit; what the guy wrote was spot on and I accept it as gosple, inspired writings.
I will base all my arguements on life lies being a fact of human life.

if you disagree come over here and take it away from me. :D

Really though, who here isn't?

And we have another piece to the "Why doesn't anyone join us?" puzzle.

We're some boring ass mofos here. Saying the same thing over and over.

shucks, I try at least.

it is fun to work at coming up with a new off the wall angle from which to probe the Armor of The Lord.

give me something to work with.

y'all say I must be miserable because I do not share in your life lie

not accepting I might use an equally effective lie.

I don't believe the typical wishy washy evangelism line from the Arminians that if you don't have God in your life you must be miserable, or even better, that you've got a God shaped hole in your heart. Rubbish. I say you can be as snug as a bug in a rug in a life of sin. There are always consequences, but I think you can be real happy for a whole lifetime doing whatever you please.

I, on the other hand, am promised a life of strife and persecution. How can I logically embrace this, you ask? It is hard to explain except that I've been graciously forgiven by a righteous God who wills that I should extend grace to others in the example of his Son.

y'all say I must be miserable because I do not share in your life lie

not accepting I might use an equally effective lie.

Were did I say that?

starting with how looking forward to death, and so the afterlife, causes neglect of the future here on earth.

I fail to see your line of logic. How are we neglecting the future, and in what way?

y'all say I must be miserable because I do not share in your life lie

Were did I say that?

since I do not accept jesus True happines is denied me, so although I might think I am happy in my sinful ways I know in my concience that I am not doing it right and so will always have the underlying misery of seperation from all true goodness.

although it might not have been you that said it, close enough ?

Nah, I'm sure you can be uber-happy without God.

In never said you couldn't be, and I don't know where in the bible it's supposed to say that :P

I mean, if you're not following God, it leaves you a lot more time to follow your own "happiness," so why wouldn't you be happy?

All of this brings up a great quote (that I don't know who said, so don't ask):

"If the hangover came first, drinking would be a virtue."

when your conscious kicks in abotu something y ou know is not right, it doesnt feel good. Most people, primarily feel-good, never-had-any-real-concerns-in-their-life americans default to denial everychance they get. "Oh the holocaust never existed", "Oh 9/11 was never an inside job, i believe the original stories and trust my bushy" "oh no higher unversal powers exist because i cant see them and it would ruin my entire atheological premise"

the only thing funnier than this shit is Dave Chappelle

{light editing, no disrespect :bigthumb: }

when your conscience kicks in about something you know is not right, it doesn't feel good.

that doesn't work right, it assumes an absolute conscience referent of what is right and what is wrong.

conscience seems more to be a CONSTRUCT of whatever society the individual infant finds herself in.

language seems to have a huge part in the formation of the conscience.

for example I'd theorize that whatever arabic uses to say "commit suicide" to describe the act actually means something entirely different than a crime you 'commit', hence the use of "maryterdom" to establish the glory of commiting suicide when talking to us english speakers.

so thinking about suicide has two distinctly different effects on the conscience depending whether he grew up here or in saudi.

Yeah Right., Conscious Had Nothing To Do With Our Prior Survival Its Just A Funny Phenomenon.... Yeah, No. Every Non-retarded Human Demonstrates Conscious Judgement At Some Point In Their Life. You Mean To Say Manipulating And Trainign Onesself To Ignore Their Conscious, Or To Distort The Message From Their Conscious (lying To Yourself, Denial) Is A Common Way People Override It. The Guy Responsible For Clearing 50 Acres A Day Or Rainforest Tells Himself Hes Doing It For His Kid, And For The Money And All "the Right Reasons". He Needs A Device To Override His Conscious. Thats Where Society Steps In. He Full Well Knows He's Destoying An Ecosystem That The Entire Earth Is Dependant On, But He Justifies It With Some Learned Cultural Behaviour. Using Your Cnn Gained Knowledge About A Group Of People You Know Nothing About, Also, Is Not Exactly Bolstering Your Argument. 'suicide Bombing' Is Not A Part Of 'arabic Peoples'" Culture. It *is* Something Anyone Might Do To Try And End Oppressive, Destructive Occupation In Their Countries That They Know Are Only There For Economic Gain. the suicide is always a virtue. Heres two totally Different Modes Of Arriving At The Same End. I Assure You They Do It, When They Do It, For Much Deeper Reasons Than A Spoiled, Rich, Emo-listening, Chemicalantidepressant Taking White Kid Who's Parents Are Never Around Because Theyre Always At "the Office" Leaving An Attn Starved Kid To Drive his Parent's Benz Off A Cliff While Amped Up On Ritalin And Death Metal. The Motives Are Vastly Diff.

The Guy Responsible For Clearing 50 Acres A Day Or Rainforest Tells Himself Hes Doing It For His Kid, And For The Money And All "the Right Reasons". He Needs A Device To Override His Conscious. Thats Where Society Steps In. He Full Well Knows He's Destoying An Ecosystem That The Entire Earth Is Dependant On, But He Justifies It With Some Learned Cultural Behaviour.

to YOU the rain forest is a wonderous place where talking bunnies frolic among cancer curing shrubbery, to HIM it a dark evil place that monsters come out of that LITERALLY eat his children.

that is where satan lives.

ridding the world of that horror is the best possible work for a Man.

his soul {easier to spell than conscious } should trouble him if he gets LESS than a full 50 acres in a day.




'suicide Bombing' Is Not A Part Of 'arabic Peoples'" Culture.

http://hnn.us/articles/1750.html

How Far Back Do Suicide Attacks Go?
By Willard Hogeboom
Mr. Hogeboom is Adjunct Assistant Professor of History, Dowling College, New York.

The idea of the suicide assassin in the Middle East goes back more than a thousand years. During the 11th Century, a Persian scholar of great wealth and charisma founded a fundamentalist Islamic sect called The Assassins. His name was Hasan I Sabah and he operated out of a mountain fortress called Alamut, in northern Persia, or what is today Iran.

According to Marco Polo, Hasan built a breathtaking secret garden at Alamut, modeled after Muhammad's description of Paradise in The Koran. When it was time for one of his followers to be sent on a mission, Hasan would have him drugged and taken to the secret garden. When the youth woke up, he would find himself in the magnificent garden, surrounded by beautiful flowers and bountiful fruit, with waters of flowing milk and honey, and all served to him by beautiful virgins called houris.

After a day or so, the youth would be drugged again and taken to Hasan. When he awoke, Hasan would tell him that Allah had allowed him to spend some time in Paradise because he had a mission for him. After successfully killing his victim, the youth would then return to Paradise, forever.

In 1197, a crusader leader named Henry of Champagne sought an alliance with the assassins and he visited one of the sect's fortresses. During the course of their discussion, the Grand Master in charge demonstrated the absolute obedience of his followers by ordering two of them to throw themselves off the ramparts of the fortress, which they did without hesitation. Henry quickly concluded the alliance.


It *is* Something Anyone Might Do To Try And End Oppressive, Destructive Occupation In Their Countries That They Know Are Only There For Economic Gain. the suicide is always a virtue. Heres two totally Different Modes Of Arriving At The Same End. I Assure You They Do It, When They Do It, For Much Deeper Reasons Than A Spoiled, Rich, Emo-listening, Chemicalantidepressant Taking White Kid Who's Parents Are Never Around Because Theyre Always At "the Office" Leaving An Attn Starved Kid To Drive his Parent's Benz Off A Cliff While Amped Up On Ritalin And Death Metal. The Motives Are Vastly Diff.


which is sort of the point.
the arabs soul welcomes suicide/martyrdom because his society glorifies it, the emo junkie has no such blessing from his background.

I've GOT to listen to some of this "emo" stuff, worse than rap ?

worse than DISCO ???

i'm finding it really hard to trust a history site with the .us domain. americans kinda seem to make up theit own history... according to history anyway.

even in your example though, its apparent that it would take a high level of ass-backwardism for anyone to destroy life-sustaining ecosystems (for example), and take that perspective on it. it's clear that if hes going on about "the devil lives there" thats this hypothetical son is even more fucked up from society and probably religion than previously proposed. probably listens to death metal.

emo is the commercial debachery of human emotion put to music. it is the preferred genre of eunochs. as death metal is a shame to all stringed-intruments and bars of soap everywhere, and american rap is the bane of human language and the pinnacle of ignorance. just dont knock disco, man... lol

i'm finding it really hard to trust a history site with the .us domain.

reasonable, don't trust it, google it for yourself, maybe you can find a .sovunion domain site you can trust more. :bigthumb:


even in your example though, its apparent that it would take a high level of ass-backwardism for anyone to destroy life-sustaining ecosystems (for example), and take that perspective on it.

as far as I can tell the concept of "life-sustaining ecosystems" was invented by American hippies in the 1960's based on visions seen while 'tripping on acid, man' .

up 'till then the tradition has the woods as a dark dangerous place to be avoided if at all possible, or if you must enter it, "Stay On The Path" .

and what is the path ?

a place where the forest has been defeated, where the forest has been driven back and can't get at you.

word. the forest is the enemy. we have forest terror alert greenish-chrome-purple the second, third highest terror color!! i say we hoard resources and buy and eat guns to keep our country safe. the more guns you can put into the hands of people, the safer our country will be from botanists and terrorists. terror; just one more time for good measure. the enemy doesnt like oil, so i suggest you buy as much as you can to ward the terror-contortionists off. also beware the terror-mist... its suicide bombing mist that happens on foggy nights to stay undercover. smoke dope!!

is that a real poncho or a sears poncho ?

You know what I have to say about that???? DO ya???

"the enemy." "terrorists." "suicide bombers."

One of those three catch phrases are gonna be my reply to a lot of things from here on out

yah, so these eco-terrorists that want to send humanity back to before the stone age, so we won't upset the 'balance of nature" with our evil tools, all pretty much come from a culture where suicide is a crime that is "committed".

so we won't be seeing any ecological suicide bombers.

despite this lack earth firsters are the delared enemy of the human mind and spirit. an enemy who will use every trick they can to crush technology in all its forms.

up to and including terrorism, but excluding suicide bombers.

yah, so these eco-terrorists that want to send humanity back to before the stone age, so we won't upset the 'balance of nature" with our evil tools, all pretty much come from a culture where suicide is a crime that is "committed".

so we won't be seeing any ecological suicide bombers.

despite this lack earth firsters are the delared enemy of the human mind and spirit. an enemy who will use every trick they can to crush technology in all its forms.

up to and including terrorism, but excluding suicide bombers.


that is amazing. you could be a ghostwriter for Bush, or CNN!


but I totally hear what youre saying... yeah its a huge problem today, stone age men holding technology back. i cant turn around without seeing some rally for going back to primatism... how can we escape this chronic terror?