Seriously, I am watching this History Channel show on the beginnings of sex in the bible. The story of Adam and Eve really is pretty dumb. I mean, really it sounds like the most outlandish thing ever.

I just felt like saying that.

yeah the fiction story is so basic and simpleton, I was amazed of how many people actually took it in as truth.

Seriously, I am watching this History Channel show on the beginnings of sex in the bible. The story of Adam and Eve really is pretty dumb. I mean, really it sounds like the most outlandish thing ever.

I just felt like saying that.

Did the actors playing adam and eve have belly buttons? Major oversight if they did.

actually there is considerable scientific evidence that we all descended from one man and one woman, despite what kevin says to the contrary


No, there is evidence that we came from one women, but not from a single man...this is all via Mitochondria DNA.

"Mitochondria are normally inherited exclusively from the mother. The mitochondria in mammalian sperm are usually destroyed by the egg cell after fertilization.Also, most mitochondria are present at the base of the sperms tail, used for propelling the sperm cells, and this tail is lost during fertilization."

ok, but it's pretty tough to procreate in 4004 B.C. without a man around

Make that 140,000 years ago based on the genetic drift calculations....

which means you believe man descended from apes/hominids/whatever

What if I believed that Adam lived 140k years back???

Again you misread everything...and continually draw the wrong conclusions.

No, there is evidence that we came from one women, but not from a single man...this is all via Mitochondria DNA.


Shhhhh, YZF thinks he is ovulating right now.


ok, but it's pretty tough to procreate in 4004 B.C. without a man around

Lol, the jimlab card gets pulled. Since the OPers can't even debate the subject, let's all take potshots.

what was your highest level of education? I'm just curious

Who are you asking?

no response to post 11?

didn't think so...

What, because it would be stupid to wear out and discuss another 'Scopes' trial?

Not falling into that pitiful trap, its a tired argument. We both know each others side of the issue.

And who were you asking about education?

I'm saying that the story itself sounds absolutely ludicrous, and fabricated at that point in time.

it was actually drawn from earlier mythologies

sumerian/babylonian

so now Genesis 5 and 11 are "stupid"?

you're on the road to hell

Mark, you are an idiot and can't read. My point is it would be stupid to debate another 'Scopes' trial, its already been rehashed. I never said Gen 5,11 are stupid.

Get a brain....you fail with yours.

so, in other words, you have no rebuttal to the FACT that Genesis 5 & 11 clearly documents the time from Adam to Abraham TO THE YEAR, but YOU say Adam lived 140,000 years ago

wow....take it away, superhack


You are also relying on the assumption that this is accurate. If one doesn't think the bible has any sort of validity to it, then your point is moot.

universalist nonsense

rather, there are legends that parrot the scriptures, such as the global flood


You know nothing about history there Mark...time for you to be schooled, again.

So if we were to take your 'Answering Genesis' ( or should it be 'Rewriting Genesis' :roll: ) by its account, it would mean that Moses wrote Genesis in 1400BC ( http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i4/moses.asp ) Which btw is wrong, it was around 1500BC, anyway, it doesn't matter for this discussion.

It is so clear that the Biblical flood account of Noah parrots exactly the 'Epic of Gilgamesh' which earliest versions were found to be written between 2150 BC-2000 BC. Clearly this is 500 years before Moses wrote it down. The only difference between the Gilgamesh flood and the Noah Flood was that in the Biblical version there is a moral tone set to the Noah flood.

Nice try again Mark.

I agree, except for the stark reality that we have no records of human civilizations beyond about 3000 BC

Again you are wrong....

As early as 9000 BC tokens were used to represent farm produce, which were some of the earliest depictions of pictograms. That is, while not a historical written document with grammar, they were symbols representing label basic farm produce, concepts which were being used in a written fashion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictography

Oh and by the way, look up Sumerian cuneiforms, which were dated at 3400 BC.

Again, nice try.....

yet another parroted argument I heard numerous times on the klub

get educated
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/flood/introduction.asp (Master's Thesis)
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2004/0329gilgamesh.asp


LOL, those articles are comical and so biased. Master Thesis....probably from a YEC crack head.

What I like about the 'rewritinggenesis' is that they always end with a conclusion, basically telling you what to believe. Its a Parrots paradise!

http://talesofthesevenseas.com/phpbb/images/smiles/forum%20smiley%20parrot.gif

see, how can I take anything you say seriously when you're a jerk? and you always are here!


Tad bit annoyed? :rolleyes:

Like this forum is yours...and so what if I am always here! :bigthumb:

week off, oh goodie! :rolleyes:

Yea, in that case, we shall see your true colors there 'Marked', I have no doubt you will be soon coming out with your foul mouth attacks..... such a 'Christian'

speak for yourself, apostate


Thanks for proving my point! :bigthumb:

:roll: Aha-hahahahahahahahahahahaha-ah...... :roll:

you're welcome

You are such a 4 year old Marked...except for shorter.

Lol, the classic stiff arm quote change. Your claptrap just got steamrolled!

Lol, the classic stiff arm quote change. Your claptrap just got steamrolled!

The only thing 'stiff' is what you have for YZF.....cronie.

Ha ha!

My dick is none of your business. That avatar speaks volumes of where you invest your thoughts.....

My dick is none of your business. That avatar speaks volumes of where you invest your thoughts.....

LOL, you get riled up easy....who cares about your dick and what you do with it.
What I expressed was a dead metaphor...not that you could of understood it....

Never thought about my avatar in that manner....what were you thinking?

hmmm.... Seems to me in two sentences you justed expressed what type of gutter your mind dwells in.

Wait, what is the average . . . . I believe the word is gestation (conception to adulthood) period for a dove?

LOL, you get riled up easy....who cares about your dick and what you do with it.



I guess you didn't just imply that I get stiff for a certain other male forum member?


What I expressed was a dead metaphor...not that you could of understood it....


Sick humor is your forte, fuckwad.


Never thought about my avatar in that manner....what were you thinking?


As if it weren't already obvious, it seems that one dog has his nose in another one's ass....... if sniffing anus is success, I guess I'm the pervert? :screwyou:


hmmm.... Seems to me in two sentences you justed expressed what type of gutter your mind dwells in.

Deny reality much? It's obvious that you project your own sexual fixations onto the world around you. It's even more shocking that you claim to be a follower of Christ..... you would rather quarrel with others than apply yourself toward charity and humility. Oh wait, as long as Yzf is less humble than you, it must be okay to be a total shitface, no? :rolleyes:

just in case there IS a topic floating around here, I don't see a problem with a single individual developing a mutation that produces a race that outbreeds all the rest of her relations .

so there could be lots of males for the one mutant girl to smooch.

considering that there ARE bacteria it seems much more likely than magic wands, which do NOT exist.

so yes I believe in bacteria, look there's one right there.

you believe in magic wands, point to one.

where are all the transitional forms from bacteria to man? they should be ubiquitous

all I see are clearly defined/compartmentalized forms of life

considering that the "transitional forms" between what we are and what we will become in a few million years are alive today, EVERY fossil is a "transitionary form"

EVERY living critter, and former living critter, that passes its genes on to another generation is a "transitional form" engaging in the transition from whatever code its ancestors had, through the code that creates it, to the code that creates its offspring.

you seem unable to grasp that the "code" is nothing more than a simple chain molecule THAT CHANGES with each generation.

it is the MOLECULE that does the changing, the shape of the fossil or critter is arbitrary and nothing more than a selection mechanism for the molecule.


I am still waiting for the 'abundant evidence' of the magic wand.

Don't skip my question, answer it.
How long does it take from fertilization to adulthood, concerning a dove?