http://news.monstersandcritics.com/northamerica/article_1046216.php/Troops_find_grisly_scenes_in_New_Orleans

Let's just hope the fools don't try to get "sentimental" and rebuild it all again....

you survive the hurricane, you then survive the floods reasonably healthy, things are getting better, and some useless excuse for a human comes and slashes your throat for something to do.... :rolleyes:

Let's just hope the fools don't try to get "sentimental" and rebuild it all again....


It will be rebuilt because it is a critical area to the country. Get over it.

It will be rebuilt because it is a critical area to the country. Get over it.
heh.

you make me laugh.


laugh long

and laugh hard.








anyhoo, my bet is they rebuild it because of the human nature to rebuild in the exact same spot where everything was just destroyed mere months or years ago.

heh.

you make me laugh.


laugh long

and laugh hard.








anyhoo, my bet is they rebuild it because of the human nature to rebuild in the exact same spot where everything was just destroyed mere months or years ago.

Your ignorance to the importance of the Port of New Orleans makes me laugh.

You do realize that the Port of New Orleans is the largest port in the US, correct? You realize it is the 5th most busy port in the world, correct?

You realize that a large deal of the US's exports, such as soybeans and corn, pass through our ports, correct? You also realize that southern Louisiana handles, what, 1/4 of the US's oil?

We also take in a shit ton of the US's imports.

I suggest you read up a little there, DAK and Sup.

Let me help you out with a little bit of that...

From http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20050907/EDITS/109070044 :

"Butch Mazzuca
September 7, 2005

The nation's media will chronicle the events of Hurricane Katrina.

They'll ascribe blame about who was responsible for what and which of the subsequent events could have been mitigated or avoided and recriminations will abound. But this much is certain, New Orleans will rebuild. It will rebuild because failing to do so is not an option for the United States' commercial infrastructure.

While it is a terrible place for a city to be located, it is the exact place where a city must exist. New Orleans is the linchpin in an extraordinary system of rivers that flows through the Midwest and allows America to sell its goods to the world.

The navigable rivers of the Midwest flow into the Mississippi - and the Mississippi flows to the ports around New Orleans. It is in New Orleans that the barges are unloaded, their cargos stored, sold and reloaded on ocean-going vessels. Until 11 days ago, New Orleans was in many ways the fulcrum of the American economy.

But then, New Orleans' importance to America is nothing new. Going back 150 years, the Battle of New Orleans was a propitious moment in our history. Although the battle occurred after the War of 1812 had ended, if the British taken the city, it is doubtful they would have given it back because it would have given them control of the network of rivers that converge on the Mississippi and ultimately to the ports around New Orleans. Without New Orleans, the Louisiana Purchase would have been valueless.

One cannot overstate the strategic importance of those ports. Historians conjecture that when Andy Jackson became president, his obsession with Texas had much to do with keeping the Mexicans away from that city. Adding credence to that theory, subsequent to the Cold War former Soviet military planners revealed that they considered New Orleans to be of equal or greater strategic value than New York and Washington.

The Russians understood that if the Mississippi River was shut to traffic, the foundations of the American economy would be shattered. The industrial materials needed in our factories couldn't come in, and our agricultural wealth couldn't flow out. Sixty years ago the Nazis knew this, too, and little known to most Americans, a significant U-boat campaign occurred near the mouth of the Mississippi throughout World War II.

The ports of South Louisiana (POSL) and New Orleans, which run north and south of the city, are as important today as at any point during the history of the republic. On its own merit, POSL is the largest port in the United States by tonnage and the fifth largest in the world.

The New Orleans port complex is where the bulk commodities of agriculture go out to the world and the bulk commodities of industrialism arrive. The commodity chain of the global food industry and American industrialism begin there.

POSL is vital to our national interests because there are no good alternatives.

River transport is cheap, and most of the commodities shipped on the Mississippi have low value-to-weight ratios.

Our transport system was built on the assumption that these commodities would travel to and from New Orleans by barge, where they would be loaded on ships or off-loaded.

Apart from port capacity elsewhere in the United States, there aren't enough trucks or rail cars to handle the long-distance hauling of these enormous quantities.

Aside from the horrific human tragedy, the media has focused on the oil industry in Louisiana and Mississippi.

But in many ways that issue is dwarfed by the shipping problem. Fortunately, the Mississippi did not change course and no major levees (as of this writing) containing the river have burst. Nor has the Mississippi silted up to render it non-navigable. Lucky for all of us, the river as a transport corridor has not been lost.

What has been lost, however, is the city of New Orleans and the human infrastructure.

The population has fled, leaving behind a relatively small number of people in desperate straits where the magnitude of the situation dwarfs the resources required to ameliorate it.

While horrific in its consequences, it is not the population trapped in New Orleans that is of geopolitical significance. It is the population that has left and has nowhere to return to.

Oil fields, pipelines and ports require skilled workers. Those workers require homes, stores, services, hospitals, doctors, postal facilities, schools, etc.

Unlike other disasters, that work force cannot return because they have no place to live.

The area surrounding New Orleans is either gone or so badly damaged that it will not be habitable for a long time.

Metropolitan areas are complex. They require infrastructures that go beyond power plants and sewage-treatment facilities.

Someone has to be able to sell a pair of shoes or a computer or be able to repair a car or perform surgery. The people who provide those services, along with the physical infrastructure that supports them, are gone.

The fall harvest is coming, which means the ports must be reopened.

Premiums will be paid to people prepared to endure the hardships of working there.

In the end, the city and the people will return because the alternatives are too devastating.

In the meantime, the rest of us are left to contemplate how local, state and federal authorities allowed a region of such vital national interests to fall into the state of disrepair that precipitated the enormity of the aftermath."


From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans,_Louisiana

"The Port of New Orleans handles about 145 million short tons (132 million tonnes) of cargo a year and is the largest faction of the Port of South Louisiana, the latter being the largest and busiest shipping port in the western hemisphere and the 4th busiest in the world.

About 5,000 ships from nearly 60 nations dock at the Port of New Orleans annually. The chief exports are grain and other foods from the Midwestern United States and petroleum products. The leading imports include chemicals, cocoa beans, coffee, and petroleum. The port handles more trade with Latin America than does any other U.S. gateway, including Miami.

New Orleans is also a busy port for barges. The barges use the nation's two main inland waterways, the Mississippi River and the Gulf Intracoastal Waterway, which meet at New Orleans. The port of New Orleans handles about 50,000 barges yearly."

So, after reading that, do you really think of it as such a stupid idea to totally scrap New Orleans all together? Do you want to give up all of that just because we are below sea level?

Like it was stated by Butch Mazzuca: "While it is a terrible place for a city to be located, it is the exact place where a city must exist."

Like I said, get over it.

I know it's important in terms of trade in all, but if you're going to rebuild then rebuild SMART is all I say....

Live and learn, since this supposedly isn't the first time the city's come under flood attack....

I know it's important in terms of trade in all, but if you're going to rebuild then rebuild SMART is all I say....

Live and learn, since this supposedly isn't the first time the city's come under flood attack....

Well, maybe the government will finally treat such an important role in it's economy properly and cough up proper funds. Otherwise, N.O. is going to be built just like it was before...

You realize that a large deal of the US's exports, such as soybeans and corn, pass through our ports, correct? You also realize that southern Louisiana handles, what, 1/4 of the US's oil?



So move it to Baton Rouge, you ignorant cock.

If this shit happens in 20 years, New Orleans will not get one fucking dime out of me. If your shit gets fucked up that bad, you pick up and MOVE. They need to leave parts of that city alone. Rebuild most of it, but some of it needs to be cordoned off, destroyed, and redesigned to prevent this from happening again.

CHILL, BITCHES!

I agree with Sup that it doesn't need to be rebuilt in the same way. I agree with Clean85 that it's a vital port for our country. That doesn't mean they need to rebuild the same way, though.

Makes me think of the damn Flood of 93 in the Midwest. Here in STL, the Chesterfield Valley area was completely flooded and a few businesses suffered damage.

After rebuilding the levees, the area became a HUGE center for retail and businesses, even though it was under several feet of water just a few years prior. The strip center they built down there is over a mile long, and growing even today.

Humans are retarded.

Fuck it. You can build another port elsewhere. It's not like we don't have 19,000 miles of waterfront along the Gulf. New Orleans was a filthy, cub filled shithole in the first place. Natural selection will hopefully kill off all of the useless excuse for humans there and then they can either rebuild it the right way, or move it somewhere better.

Honestly, is everyone really that broken up about a bunch of lazy, welfare stricken, looting black guys? I know I'm not.

Fuck it. You can build another port elsewhere. It's not like we don't have 19,000 miles of waterfront along the Gulf.

Exactly.

All this oh it's a really important port nonsense is silly, because you could have a really important port somewhere else. Somewhere ABOVE sea level on land that isn't in the process of sinking into the ocean.

The port is where is is for HISTORICAL reasons, not because it's essential today.

CHILL, BITCHES!

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Makes me think of the damn Flood of 93 in the Midwest. Here in STL, the Chesterfield Valley area was completely flooded and a few businesses suffered damage.

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The differnece is that western STL county is predominatly middle to upper middle class , working , productive americans. there was absolutly looting opportunities available during the flood. But no one looted. Why is that?

No no no... I meant the stupidty of rebuilding and EXPANDING into an area that was just flooded.

We both know why there was no looting....