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Join in on this Discussion and see the pictures. Click here-> : Ancient snake was as long as a bus


BATMAN
02-04-2009, 11:33 AM
A colossal snake about the length of a school bus slithered about South America's rainforests some 60 million years ago, according to an analysis of the skeletal remains of what is now considered the largest snake ever identified.

"It's the biggest snake the world has ever known," said Jason Head, a paleontologist at the University of Toronto Mississauga and part of an international team who discovered and identified the snake bones.

He added, "The snake's body was so wide that if it were moving down the hall and decided to come into my office to eat me, it would literally have to squeeze through the door."

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Fossils of the extinct snake species, now called Titanoboa cerrejonensis, were discovered in the Cerrejon Coal Mine in northern Colombia.

From the fossilized vertebrae, the researchers conservatively estimate the snake weighed about 2,500 pounds and measured nearly 43 feet nose to tail tip.

Top: series of vertebrae and ribs of 45 foot Titanoboa. Middle: series of vertebrae with one rib extending below. Bottom: two vertebrae (white), and a partial skull & mandible of modern 17 foot Anaconda, for scale.
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The giant reptile was a boine snake, a type of non-venomous constrictor that includes anacondas and boas. In the same fossil rainforest, the researchers also found giant sea turtles and crocodile relatives.

In fact, while alive, the snake likely gorged on its crocodilian neighbors.

"We think it was a completely aquatic snake, that it didn't really go out on land except to bask every once in a while," Head told LiveScience.

"And aquatic snakes generally eat aquatic vertebrates, and the only other aquatic vertebrates around are these primitive crocodiles and these giant turtles. And you can imagine it's probably pretty difficult to eat a turtle when you can't chew."

Left: a vertebra (one bone of the spine) of a 17 foot modern Anaconda; Right: a vertebra of 45 foot Titanoboa.
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The snake's enormous dimensions are a sign that temperatures along the equator where the remains were found were once much balmier.

"The bigger you get, the more energy you need overall," Head said. "And since they get their energy from external environments, the bigger they are, the more energy they're going to require from the external environment."

(Snakes are cold-blooded animals, so they don't generate their own body heat.)

The researchers calculated that in order to support the slithering giant, its tropical habitat would have needed a temperature of about 86 to 93 degrees Fahrenheit (30 to 34 degrees Celsius).

"Tropical ecosystems of South America were surprisingly different 60 million years ago," said Jonathan Bloch, a vertebrate paleontologist at the University of Florida, Florida Museum of Natural History, who worked with Head on the snake study.

"It was a rainforest, like today, but it was even hotter and the cold-blooded reptiles were all substantially larger. The result was, among other things, the largest snakes the world has ever seen ... and hopefully ever will."

Alex-7
02-04-2009, 11:48 AM
ignoring the usual "millions of years" claptrap, this sounds like a very large Green Anaconda (and I've actually handled one), which can reach 36+ feet



which has nothing to do with vast imaginary epochs and everything to do with the far more temperate and lush Pre-Flood world


You've got at least two hundred plus page threads dedicated to your "MILLIONS OF YEARS" crusade that I can think of..

Please give it a rest in STB.

BackyardSog
02-04-2009, 02:16 PM
Where does it say anything about transitional fossils? It clearly states it is an extinct snake species.

http://pharyngula.org/images/bensen_carnival.gif

Fendamonky
02-04-2009, 03:47 PM
This kind of stuff doesn't belong in STB, anyway, because it involves religious speculation.

It only involves "religious speculation" because you call it religious. For the rest of the (normal) world this article has absolutely NOTHING to do with religion.

When will you openly proclaim for WBC?

There is nothing "scientific" about stating this giant snake was "60 million" years old, that's complete fabrication. The fossil remains are never dated

I wasn't aware that you were physically present for this investigation and privvy to those details.

Interestingly enough, the article "kinda" contradicts your assessment.

colossal snake about the length of a school bus slithered about South America's rainforests some 60 million years ago, according to an analysis of the skeletal remains



In the end I find it to be a very cool read.

DeRFmAn
02-04-2009, 03:56 PM
It only involves "religious speculation" because you call it religious. For the rest of the (normal) world this article has absolutely NOTHING to do with religion.

When will you openly proclaim for WBC?



I wasn't aware that you were physically present for this investigation and privvy to those details.

Interestingly enough, the article "kinda" contradicts your assessment.





In the end I find it to be a very cool read.
Nicely put good sir.

BATMAN
02-04-2009, 05:02 PM
...... Alain just posts it here to stir the pot. ....

U love throwing the spotlight on others when there are 20 spot light beams on ur behavior.

what's worse,? ur lack of religious restraint or my colorful posts?

Zero
02-04-2009, 05:35 PM
I think you're all missing the most important point:

Batman found this by searching for "large snake"

Fendamonky
02-04-2009, 08:40 PM
:rofl:

95whitepep
02-04-2009, 09:08 PM
I think you're all missing the most important point:

Batman found this by searching for "large snake"


Correction "large black snake"

BATMAN
02-05-2009, 11:18 AM
ebony snake...........

aznpoopy
02-05-2009, 11:39 AM
your obsession with snakes is really, really disturbing.

dg123
02-05-2009, 11:52 AM
Now the question is, will it fit on a plane?

Fendamonky
02-05-2009, 05:16 PM
Yes, but I don't know about a passenger jet...

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