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http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Australian_TV_station_releases_new_Abu_0215.html


SBS Dateline, an Australian television program, released new photographs from the U.S. prison in Iraq, Abu Ghraib.

Tonight unpublished photographs are part of a sheaf that the US Government has been fighting to keep secret in a court case with the American Civil Liberties Union. Read the news article about the photos' release here.

Disclaimer: The photographs follow, and are very graphic.









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Owned.... lol

...and a report determined later that about 9 out of 10 of those 'owned' prisoners were innocent civilians that shouldn't have been arrested in the first place.

Yup, they got 'owned'...

Thank you, Manntis....

Shit like this really makes me wonder.... lol

Oh yeah, before I forget:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2036182,00.html

CIA chief sacked for opposing torture


Sarah Baxter and Michael Smith, Washington
The CIA’s top counter-terrorism official was fired last week because he opposed detaining Al-Qaeda suspects in secret prisons abroad, sending them to other countries for interrogation and using forms of torture such as “water boarding”, intelligence sources have claimed.

Robert Grenier, head of the CIA counter-terrorism centre, was relieved of his post after a year in the job. One intelligence official said he was “not quite as aggressive as he might have been” in pursuing Al-Qaeda leaders and networks.

Vincent Cannistraro, a former head of counter-terrorism at the agency, said: “It is not that Grenier wasn’t aggressive enough, it is that he wasn’t ‘with the programme’. He expressed misgivings about the secret prisons in Europe and the rendition of terrorists.”

Grenier also opposed “excessive” interrogation, such as strapping suspects to boards and dunking them in water, according to Cannistraro.

Porter Goss, who was appointed head of the CIA in August 2004 with a mission to “clean house”, has been angered by a series of leaks from CIA insiders, including revelations about “black sites” in Europe where top Al-Qaeda detainees were said to have been held.

In last Friday’s New York Times, Goss wrote that leakers within the CIA were damaging the agency’s ability to fight terrorism and causing foreign intelligence organisations to lose confidence. “Too many of my counterparts from other countries have told me, ‘You Americans can’t keep a secret’.”

Goss is believed to have blamed Grenier for allowing leaks to occur on his watch.

Since the appointment of Goss, the CIA has lost almost all its high-level directors amid considerable turmoil.

AB “Buzzy” Krongard, a former executive director of the CIA who resigned shortly after Goss’s arrival, said the leaks were unlikely to stop soon, despite proposals to subject officers to more lie detector tests.

Krongard said it was up to President George Bush to stop the rot. “The agency has only one client: the president of the United States,” he said. “The reorganisation is the way this president wanted it. If he is unwilling to reform it, the agency will go on as it is.”

“History will judge how good an idea it was to destroy the teams and the programmes that were in place.”

...and a report determined later that about 9 out of 10 of those 'owned' prisoners were innocent civilians that shouldn't have been arrested in the first place.

Yup, they got 'owned'...


Would you mind backing that up with some proof?

The picture that emerges is a simple one: The U.S. military was given the mission of toppling the Hussein regime but, in the aftermath of conquest, our forces had neither the manpower nor the information required to tell the bad guys from the good guys. Consequently, when accusations were made that someone warranted locking up, our people erred on the side of caution and locked up the innocent along with (or, indeed, instead of) the guilty. The number of innocent people confined in Abu Graib is proportional to our forces’ lack of resources and intelligence. That is, the necessity to err on the side of false arrests was created by the inability of our under-manned forces to police such a large, volatile, and almost completely unfamiliar society. (Vice-president Richard Cheney has neatly sidestepped the criticism that we needed more people than we sent at the outset of the occupation by pretending that the question is whether we should be sending more people now. Two different questions.)


Need more?


Brig Gen Karpinski said US commanders were reluctant to release detainees, an attitude she called "releasophobia".

In her interview, she said Maj Gen Walter Wodjakowski, then the second most senior army general in Iraq, told her in the summer of 2003 not to release more prisoners, even if they were innocent.

"I don't care if we're holding 15,000 innocent civilians," she said Maj Gen Wodjakowski told her. "We're winning the war."