I need a new project car. I don't want to spend the $$$ for a manual swap in my Prelude, so now I need to find something, so I need some honest opinions. So here's a couple of cars that i've been thinking about...

Ford Probe/MX-6
Prelude (90+)
240SX
Taurus SHO (Manual 93+)

I'm sure you may be wondering why I dont have an fc on my list, but honestly, I know nothing about rotary engined cars, and i'm not sure if I would have time right now.

Anyway, if you have any other suggestions, post em.

don't get a rotary, they're trash for daily drivers

I'd go with the prelude or 240

I iwant another 1st gen mx6 gt

i'd say 240, although i've never had any problems with a rotary as a daily driver. if it hadn't been for "that woman", i'd still be driving it.

I say 240sx. RWD for the win!

I'm thinking 240 also for RWD. I've never owned a RWD car, so this would be a first.

I'm really thinking about getting another Prelude. It was a great daily driver and the handling was damn good for a FWD car.

Basically, i'd like a car that won't be a pain to work on, good handling, and that'll be comfortable for short trips.

http://www.raceworx.com/imabandwidththief/fwdsucks.gif

Well wonner,

What are some affordable RWD cars from the early-mid 90's?

hmmmmmmmmm?

240sx, FC , Supra.....

240sx, FC , Supra.....


FC - As stated above, i'm don't know anything about rotary cars.
I don't like MKIII Supras.

Rotary, only if you have lots of parts cars and a bit of business sense to make money to maintain and upgrade....

But I say 240SX, KA24DE or KA24E version, are very reliable cars if kept up to par with routine maintenance.... The only part that can get tricky is the timing chain and head gasket replacement.... :(

Looks like i'm gonna be looking at another Lude or maybe a V6 Probe/MX-6...

It's going to be a Christmas present to myself, so I have some time. I just wanna make a decision so I can start buying some perf. upgrades early.

I would say go with a 240

I have a V6 MX-6. It is a fun car. Definately not the fastest, but still "quick".
Here are some forums that could be useful in your search.
www.mx6.com
www.probetalk.com
Here are some pics of mine. Hope I've been of some help.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8624/796139r120212dw.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9805/796139r121226js.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8678/796139r122234sb.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5681/796139r123246xd.jpg

I really wouldn't mind anything that has the Duratec 25 and a manual, save the Mercury Cougar.

I've found a couple of V6 MX-6/Probes in my area that were sub 2000.

I've found a couple of V6 MX-6/Probes in my area that were sub 2000.

Some advice, don't get one with an automatic tranny. A lot of people have trouble with them. However, the manuals are pretty stout and almost nobody has problems with them. Also, try to get one that is OBD1 (93-95) if you want to do a J-Spec motor swap. it just makes the J-Spec motor swap easier. All the KL-ZE 's are OBD1. Here (http://www.rimsandthings.com/engines_mazda_klze.htm) is a place in Greenville, SC that sells the KLZE (J-Spec motor).

If I decide to go with the MX/Probe, I'm not even sure that i'd do a swap. I'm thinking about boosting, either a blower or a turbo setup.

I'll be buying a manual, without a doubt.

Have you any experience with F/I with these cars?

If I decide to go with the MX/Probe, I'm not even sure that i'd do a swap. I'm thinking about boosting, either a blower or a turbo setup.

I'll be buying a manual, without a doubt.

Have you any experience with F/I with these cars?
No personal experience, sorry. Let me direct you to some people that do.

Fastest95PGT on www.mx6.com - Here (http://www.mx6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142264) he just dynoed at 256whp/226wtq.
adlorin on www.mx6.com - has done some bulk buys for his Supercharger kit.

Here are some sites that carry blowers/turbos:

www.mrspeed.biz - i think owned/operated by "adlorin"
http://www.boosthead.com/home.php
Here (http://www.mx6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140885) is a Bulk Buy for a turbo kit

Thanks for the great info Skylance! You're surely helping me make my decision.

Now I need to get an insurance quote for a MX-6/Ford Probe.

www.geico.com

www.geico.com

I use progressive. www.progressive.com

go with the mx6
ive had 2 and i like them. they drive real nice and are quick enough. kinda.
heres a pic of mine too.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/adamxx6/100_0025.jpg

Skylance - Who are you? Have I met you in spartanburg?

Miata.

Miata.

Miata is a bit too small for me. I tried to convince the wifey to get one, and that was a no-go.

dude, you're like 5 ft tall. How is a miata too small?

dude, you're like 5 ft tall. How is a miata too small?
:roll:

Miatas are on the small side for me, but I can still suggest them to other people!

dude, you're like 5 ft tall. How is a miata too small?

I'm approx 5'4.5", i'll have you know, Mr. Osborne.

I'm not claustrophobic, but after driving/riding in a Miata, I don't think i'd want one for myself.

hahah keep deleting my posts.


whoa.....that post wasn't even bad.

:roll: keep going.

It wasn't bad but it was irrelevant and he said it to be an asshole. Since our traffic went to 1/3 what it was due to "assholery", I'm not going to tolerate the alienation of any more people even if that requires a few people being pissed off. Sorry meddle, if it isn't relevant it will be deleted.

You keep going and I'll ban you. I'm not very fond of people who resort to racist remarks because they don't have the capacity to find a better "flaw."

Well then I'll stay on topic. Get a 240sx, cause they're gay. Nothing better thana 15 year old rust bucket paid for by other people.

You keep going and I'll ban you. I'm not very fond of people who resort to racist remarks because they don't have the capacity to find a better "flaw."

****** rich is not racist. It's could describe any broke ass.

www.geico.com

So far, Geico has the best prices. For the cars I chose, it's between 50 - 70 a month.

i'd say 240, although i've never had any problems with a rotary as a daily driver. if it hadn't been for "that woman", i'd still be driving it.

Did you ever get another car?

****** may not necessarily always be a racist term but it is always a disparaging term. In this particular context I beg to differ that you aren't referring to race. Anything else not related to this topic will be deleted with no response.

i like the earlier mx-6's... far better looking IMO. the 3rd gen preludes are pretty hot for being FWD. i hate the 4th gens though.

i would get a 240sx if i were in your shoes. you just can't beat RWD! you just can't...

So far, Geico has the best prices. For the cars I chose, it's between 50 - 70 a month.

Wow, that was a total guess....I don't even have insurance.













Kidding!

i like the earlier mx-6's... far better looking IMO. the 3rd gen preludes are pretty hot for being FWD. i hate the 4th gens though.

i would get a 240sx if i were in your shoes. you just can't beat RWD! you just can't...

I've had 2 3rd Gen Preludes, and that's where my heart is. 4 wheel steering, double wishbone suspension, 2700lbs. Great cars and complete with retractable headlights :D. I still have one of them, but it's an auto :(

Preludedude has a pretty nice 4th Gen Special edition. It's the only modded 4th gen that I like. Most people over do it.

I don't like to admit it but I like the 90's probes and MX-6's. But I don't think rotary's are that much different than anything else don't limit yourself.

A rotary needs gas, air and spark just like any other motor. I think they are easier to work on and if left relatively stock are very reliable.

....4 wheel steering....

I'm not a Honda fanatic, but isn't 4 wheel steering a total failure and undesirable? :dunno:

If you're going to get something with a Mazda engine get it in a Mazda body. Probe interiors suck ass. If you like the Honda as much as you do then just get another with a manual trans.

I'm not a Honda fanatic, but isn't 4 wheel steering a total failure and undesirable? :dunno:

In the 3rd Gen Prelude, it was a mechanical system that worked fairly well. In some cars, it has been a failure though.

If you're going to get something with a Mazda engine get it in a Mazda body. Probe interiors suck ass. If you like the Honda as much as you do then just get another with a manual trans.

I'd love to get another Prelude, but it's incredibly hard to find a 3rd Gen in good condition these days.

Considering the spartan interior that I have in my Cavalier, anything is a gigantic step up.

I don't like to admit it but I like the 90's probes and MX-6's. But I don't think rotary's are that much different than anything else don't limit yourself.

A rotary needs gas, air and spark just like any other motor. I think they are easier to work on and if left relatively stock are very reliable.

Problem is, it won't be left relatively "stock" ;).

Don't touch cars.

You're a ricer.

Don't touch cars.

You're a ricer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/DCMann2/oh_snap.jpg

Why are looking for a project car and listing some of the gayest and most unsporting coupes in existance?

The Probe GT was Motor Trend magazine's Car of the Year for 1993. It also made Car and Driver magazine's Ten Best list for 1989, 1993, and 1994.

The Prelude was on Car and Driver magazine's annual Ten Best list ten times, from 1984 through 1986, and 1992 through 1998.

1. Tolerable daily driver
2. Reliable
3. Quick w/potential.

Not everyone wants a Supra, FD, or a 300ZX. Sure they're nice, but honestly, I don't want to have a car payment for insurance right now.

My first thought was to find a 2001 Prelude SH, but i'd rather wait and let that be a graduation present to myself next year. Until then, I want something to play around with.

Calling a car "Gay" is subjective, at best. My 91 Prelude Si 4WS wasn't the fastest car in the world, but it was a lot fun in the turns, better than I can say for a lot of cars that i've driven.

BTW, there's nothing "unsporting" about the Lude or Probe ;).

Did you ever get another car?

yeah, it's a '74 rx4. the guy that i'm getting it from is in ga. and will be bringing it down on the 22nd. depending on what all it's going to need other than putting my engine and tranny in it to get it on the road. it's been sitting for liike 2 yrs. i'll use anything i can off my other one to save money. i posted pics of it awhile back in the mazda section but it's gone now so here's another pic.
http://www.illstreet.com/forums/attach-1323

I see he has an FC in the back there too.

Just goes to show that you dont have to have a "new" car to have a pleasant driving experience. I wouldn't have a problem driving a 10+ year old car if it's fun to drive.

the good thing about these old cars is the taxes and insurance is cheap.

Taxes on my Prelude were $30. $15 of that was the "road fee". My Chevy's taxes are around $90. That should come down even lower this year.

Insurance on the Chevy is $30 a month. It's about the same for the Prelude.

It'd sure be nice to go out and buy a brand new Mustang GT, but paying 500 a month for a car payment, 100+ insurance, and 100+ in gas, screw that.

wow, that rx4 looks a lot better than the 808 did. Good find :)

yeah it also has rust around the windshield and back glass.

http://www.illstreet.com/forums/attach-1324

he recovered the front seats awhile back when he was going to fix it up, but then lost interest. the rear seat is still stock. i'm just glad the interior's black and not white like my 808 was.

http://www.illstreet.com/forums/attach-1325

there's alot of thing i wont know about til it gets here like ball joints, bushings, clutch and brake hydrolics, etc. i'm kinda hoping the tank out of mine will fit it to save time of having to clean the one in it out.

Skylance,

I've found a couple of Probes/MX-6's and most have over 100k. How does the Duratec 25 hold up past 100k?

I need a new project car. I don't want to spend the $$$ for a manual swap in my Prelude, so now I need to find something, so I need some honest opinions. So here's a couple of cars that i've been thinking about...

Ford Probe/MX-6
Prelude (90+)
240SX
Taurus SHO (Manual 93+)

I'm sure you may be wondering why I dont have an fc on my list, but honestly, I know nothing about rotary engined cars, and i'm not sure if I would have time right now.

Anyway, if you have any other suggestions, post em.

As long as you got the V6, I would say a Probe. I've always liked them.

As long as you got the V6, I would say a Probe. I've always liked them.

From what i'm hearing, I'm pretty sure i'm gonna find a Probe/MX-6. I'd rather have the Probe because I'd rather have a hatch.

I'll be getting the V6 for sure, add a S/C kit, and some other mods.

Not everyone wants a Supra, FD, or a 300ZX. Sure they're nice, but honestly, I don't want to have a car payment for insurance right now.



Some people want vettes oyu fucking ricer.
:)

I'll be getting the V6 for sure, add a S/C kit, and some other mods.


If you hang out outside bars long enough, some one will maybe hit you so you can afford your gay supercharger.

rxtasy,

No manual ? :dunno:

If you hang out outside bars long enough, some one will maybe hit on you so you can afford your gay supercharger.
:rofl:
Meddle makes me laugh, usually out loud.

ugh, I hate probes

michael - that rust looks much less severe than the other car. I'm sure you can fix that in an afternoon. Also it won't be hard to match that factory paint.

I like both the MX-6 and the Probe, but I prefer the looks of the Probe, and i'm a sucker for retractable headlights ;)

Skylance - Who are you? Have I met you in spartanburg?
I don't think we've ever met. My name is Adam Nicholson - let me go ahead and say it - "NO, I am not related to Jack!". I work in Spartanburg at QS/1 Data Systems.
Skylance,

I've found a couple of Probes/MX-6's and most have over 100k. How does the Duratec 25 hold up past 100k?
Ok, now I'm kinda confused, so someone correct me if I'm wrong. I thought the Duratec was a later model Ford motor. It came in cars like the Contour and the Mazda 6 (not to be confused with a Mazda MX-6). In short, the Probe/MX-6 doesn't have the Duratec motor. BUT the motor that is in them (A-spec = KL03, J-Spec = KLZE - both are a 2.5L V6) is really solid. I have approximately 175,000 on my MX-6. I hope that answered your question.

I don't think we've ever met. My name is Adam Nicholson - let me go ahead and say it - "NO, I am not related to Jack!". I work in Spartanburg at QS/1 Data Systems.

Ok, now I'm kinda confused, so someone correct me if I'm wrong. I thought the Duratec was a later model Ford motor. It came in cars like the Contour and the Mazda 6 (not to be confused with a Mazda MX-6). In short, the Probe/MX-6 doesn't have the Duratec motor. BUT the motor that is in them (A-spec = KL03, J-Spec = KLZE - both are a 2.5L V6) is really solid. I have approximately 175,000 on my MX-6. I hope that answered your question.

So the Probe/MX uses a Mazda 2.5L. I'm thinking that the Probe uses the 2.5L from the Contour, which also had 160 HP.

All i've found are Probes/MX's with over 100k. I dont mind the mileage, as long as it's gonna hold up for at least one year of abuse.

Now that I have the "okay" from my significant other, I just need to polish my manual driving skills again, find one in good condition, and take it from there. I probably won't buy until early january once the i'm done with all my Christmas spending. Until then, I may get a nice set of wheels and some other stuff before I puchase the car.

So the Probe/MX uses a Mazda 2.5L. I'm thinking that the Probe uses the 2.5L from the Contour, which also had 160 HP.

All i've found are Probes/MX's with over 100k. I dont mind the mileage, as long as it's gonna hold up for at least one year of abuse.

Now that I have the "okay" from my significant other, I just need to polish my manual driving skills again, find one in good condition, and take it from there. I probably won't buy until early january once the i'm done with all my Christmas spending. Until then, I may get a nice set of wheels and some other stuff before I puchase the car.
Yeah, the Probe and the MX-6 use the Mazda motor. I'm pretty sure that the only difference is the Valve Cover. The MX-6 has the Mazda logo, and the Probe has the Ford oval logo on it. Mileage and abuse isn't much of an issue with these cars. I bought mine used with 115,000 miles on it. Just keep up with regular maintenance like you would with any other car. I put about 110 miles on it every day. I drive from Shelby, NC to Spartanburg, SC to work here at QS/1, then I get to go back home. Yeah, I need to move closer to work.

55 miles each way isn't too bad, but it wouldn't hurt to find a place in Spartanburg to keep from putting all those miles on your car.

I hate driving 6 miles to USC Upstate everyday. I doubt I could do 110 and be happy about it.

Damn, gotta get back to work now...

Thanks again for the advice.

55 miles each way isn't too bad, but it wouldn't hurt to find a place in Spartanburg to keep from putting all those miles on your car.

I hate driving 6 miles to USC Upstate everyday. I doubt I could do 110 and be happy about it.
I didn't mind it when gas was only about $1.25/gallon, but lately I've found myself dreading the trip more and more.
Damn, gotta get back to work now...

Thanks again for the advice.
I'm on lunch now, but I've got lotsa work I need to do after lunch.

what the hell... the choices are down to a probe or mx6???

240sx has potential. as far as reliability goes i'd rate it about the same as a n/a FC. not very.

go to a autox or hpde and note how many mx6's, probes or preludes you see. (you won't see many). ask yourself why.

for FF, get an integra.
for FR, get a 240sx, FC or a miata.
for MR, get a 1st gen 4agze MR2, or even a 2nd gen mr2 turbo.
for AWD, get a impreza 2.5RS

what the hell... the choices are down to a probe or mx6???

240sx has potential. as far as reliability goes i'd rate it about the same as a n/a FC. not very.

go to a autox or hpde and note how many mx6's, probes or preludes you see. (you won't see many). ask yourself why.

for FF, get an integra.
for FR, get a 240sx, FC or a miata.
for MR, get a 1st gen 4agze MR2, or even a 2nd gen mr2 turbo.
for AWD, get a impreza 2.5RS

I'v seen plenty of Preludes at AutoX's. Most were 3rd Gen models (1988-1991) and i've even seen some 5th Gen Preludes (1997-2001) at some AutoX's. It's one of the best handing FWD cars ever built. IF you've driven one, you'd understand. I've had two, personally, and I speak from experience with these cars.

MR2 is out of the question as what i'm gonna buy will be my daily driver.

240SX isn't completely out of the question. Like I said earlier, i'm not buying until i'm done with all my christmas spending, so I have some time to think on this.

Integra - Hell NO. Prelude is a "MUCH" better car.

FC - I don't know much about rotary engines.

Probe/MX may be a front driver, but it's torquey, 6 cylinders, and will make a good daily driver with some go fast potential. It may be mid to low 15's out the box, but that's nothing a S/c or a turbo won't fix.

I
FC - I don't know much about rotary engines.



You don't know about any engine you damn ricer.

Just for kicks, here's a 4th Gen Prelude (1992-1996) on an AutoX course

http://webpages.charter.net/wbsamuel/800px-PB165355_ben_prelude_lg.jpg

...MR2 is out of the question as what i'm gonna buy will be my daily driver.....

Wait, what happened to your Cavailier?......I thought you were looking for a "project" car?? :dunno:

Wait, what happened to your Cavailier?......I thought you were looking for a "project" car?? :dunno:

I still have it, and I plan to keep it. Once winter is over, the Cavalier won't be my daily driver anymore.

The Cavalier was a temporary fix because my Prelude was giving me hell, and I didn't have time for it, so I bought the Cavalier as a daily driver so I could go to school/work/etc.

Then what the hell would you need another equally shitty daily driver for?

So you can pimp out the cavalier?

Then what the hell would you need another equally shitty daily driver for?

So you can pimp out the cavalier?

I want something to have some fun with. Like I said above, the Cavalier was/is a temp fix so I could have a reliable daily driver for school/work/etc.

Pimp and Cavalier should never be used in the same sentence. And the only thing I have done to my Cavalier is my audio setup, which I use for SPL competitions across the state/region. You don't need a show car to win trophies in SPL, and my Cavalier cabin has a near perfect resonant frequency that matches my sub enclosure. Perfect for SPL.

go with the mx6
ive had 2 and i like them. they drive real nice and are quick enough. kinda.
heres a pic of mine too.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/adamxx6/100_0025.jpg

I like the paint color! What size wheels are those? What other mods have you done?

Here are my mods:
Thunderbolt brand muffler, icw racing wheels 15 X 6.5, Tokico HP Series Struts and Springs, Bomz Racing Cold Air Intake

I still have it, and I plan to keep it. Once winter is over, the Cavalier won't be my daily driver anymore.

The Cavalier was a temporary fix because my Prelude was giving me hell, and I didn't have time for it, so I bought the Cavalier as a daily driver so I could go to school/work/etc.

Why not keep the Cavalier as a dd? This would eliminate any reliabilty factors of a project car.

If you're gonna keep the cavalier, and you bought it as a daily driver. Why don't you just use it as a daily driver and have fun with something more interesting than a god damn probe....................

The nissan is cheaper and more relaible than most. that mazda mx6 etc can be pricey come repair time but they are cool too.

... Why don't you just use it as a daily driver and have fun with something more interesting than a god damn probe....................

Thats what I meant to say.;)

That's what you did say.

I just wanted to say it too.

If you're gonna keep the cavalier, and you bought it as a daily driver. Why don't you just use it as a daily driver and have fun with something more interesting than a god damn probe....................

That's subjective. I've always liked 2nd Gen Ford Probes, so why not buy one? What car is "more interesting" to you? Just asking for your opinion.

I don't want to spend a "ton" of cash on a car because I plan on buying a 01 Prelude SH next December as a grad present for myself. They stopped production of the Lude in 2001 so I want to get my hands on one before it's too late and they're all in shitty condition.

...What car is "more interesting" to you? Just asking for your opinion.

I think a RWD would be interesting, esp. if you never owned one before.

I think a RWD would be interesting, esp. if you never owned one before.

Yeah but I gotta find a 240 that isn't in such shitty condition. Last time I tried to look for a 240, I had no luck at all.

Although I didn't look outside a 150 mile radius.

Just did a quick search on Auto Trader for some 240's that were 3k and under...

All were in shitty condition or autos.

Probes just suck. That 2.5 is a wheazy POS, and that jankety 5spd feels like a stick stuck in a bucket of rocks. The insides are shitty and fall apart. They suck.

You're gonna spend 5-7k ricing one out the way you want it. and it's still gonna suck.
With as frugal as you seem to be, I'd say you should not be looking into "project cars"

Why waste money your never gonna get back on a car you're gonna have less than a year? Just buy what you really want now.

Just did a quick search on Auto Trader for some 240's that were 3k and under...

All were in shitty condition or autos.


Autotrader might not be the best place....try a 240sx forums for-sale section; Thats how I found my FC. Or maybe Alex-7 can sell you one.;)

I'll be getting the V6 for sure, add a S/C kit, and some other mods.

Like these?


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Alex-7/rodi_1862_26545352.gif


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Alex-7/The_Setup.jpg

Probes just suck. That 2.5 is a wheazy POS, and that jankety 5spd feels like a stick stuck in a bucket of rocks. The insides are shitty and fall apart. They suck.

You're gonna spend 5-7k ricing one out the way you want it. and it's still gonna suck.
With as frugal as you seem to be, I'd say you should not be looking into "project cars"

Why waste money your never gonna get back on a car you're gonna have less than a year? Just buy what you really want now.

You may think of it as wasting money, but that's your opinion.

For some reason, most people's "opinion" of a project car is something that's rear drive with/or a turbo. For some people that's great, but I refuse to pay 3500 for a 240SX shitbox that someone has beat the shit out of. It makes no sense. It's like the people who pay 3000 for an fc with blown apex seals, a leaking rear diff, and a fucked up interior.

I thought about buying a 01 Lude now, but I don't want a car payment right now. Doesn't make sense financially for me and I have other things I could do with 300+ a month right now. Trying to start a small business that I hope to have up and running by this spring, so a car payment is a no go.

And it's a lot easier to find a Probe/MX-6 in good condition verses finding a MKIII Supra, 300ZX, 240SX, etc. in good condition for a good price. If I could find a decent 240 for 2500 bux, i'd jump on it. But i'm not buying someone's riced out shitbox and end up having to replace everything but the damn shell.

Or maybe Alex-7 can sell you one.;)



I have an S13 notch back with an auto and a big dent on the rear quarter.

$750.


Act now, it's going to the auction in two hours.

Like these?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Alex-7/The_Setup.jpg

The sub/amp combo you see in that pic has won me $$$, more than once I might add. I'm a huge fan of mobile audio.

And don't confuse me with your typical ricer. Nice sarcasm with the pics, but I don't do church benches, stickers, and electric blower intakes.

What kind of amps/subs, btw?

I have an S13 notch back with an auto and a big dent on the rear quarter.

$750.


Act now, it's going to the auction in two hours.

Let's see...

$800-1000 for a manual swap.
??? to get the rear quarter panel fixed.

I think i'll pass.

You may think of it as wasting money, but that's your opinion.

For some reason, most people's "opinion" of a project car is something that's rear drive with/or a turbo. For some people that's great, but I refuse to pay 3500 for a 240SX shitbox that someone has beat the shit out of. It makes no sense. It's like the people who pay 3000 for an fc with blown apex seals, a leaking rear diff, and a fucked up interior.

I thought about buying a 01 Lude now, but I don't want a car payment right now. Doesn't make sense financially for me and I have other things I could do with 300+ a month right now. Trying to start a small business that I hope to have up and running by this spring, so a car payment is a no go.

And it's a lot easier to find a Probe/MX-6 in good condition verses finding a MKIII Supra, 300ZX, 240SX, etc. in good condition for a good price. If I could find a decent 240 for 2500 bux, i'd jump on it. But i'm not buying someone's riced out shitbox and end up having to replace everything but the damn shell.


First off, nobody pays 3k for a shitty FC.

I have a nice MK3 for $2500?

There is no way around the fact that your gonna loose money on mods to a car. Puting a 3k supercharger on a $1500 probe does not make it worth $4500.

It's like the people who pay 3000 for an fc with blown apex seals, a leaking rear diff, and a fucked up interior.




Umm thats like a $500 FC dipshit.

Pansy. Fix the rear panel yourself. Body work isnt as hard as people make it out to be.

What kind of amps/subs, btw?

Power Acoustik LT900/2 (2)
Power Acoustik Fubr 10" (2)
45Hz Tuned Ported Enclosure
Power Acoustik 2 Farad Capacitor
Optima Gel Cell
140 Amp Rebuilt Alternator

More than enough to bring up your food from lunch & loud enough to kill small mammals.

Let's see...

$800-1000 for a manual swap.
??? to get the rear quarter panel fixed.

I think i'll pass.




I didn't say it was a good deal.

First off, nobody pays 3k for a shitty FC.

I have a nice MK3 for $2500?

There is no way around the fact that your gonna loose money on mods to a car. Puting a 3k supercharger on a $1500 probe does not make it worth $4500.

Where are you located?

And i'm not the kinda person who cares that the car is actually "worth". And it won't cost me 3k for a S/C. I've seen a couple of kits for the Probe/MX-6 for around 1500 that yield gains up to 250hp from the stock 160.

BTW, you MUST be a car salesman.

I didn't say it was a good deal.

:hide:

I feel for the person on the other end of the deal.

Like wonner said, go to forums and look under the For Sale sections. Whether you get a probe, MX-6, 240SX, or whatever, the best place to look is the forums if you want one that is in decent condition.

:hide:

I feel for the person on the other end of the deal.



Yeah, they got fucked.

Yeah, they got fucked.

lol yea you're a car salesman.

A friend of mine used to buy Chevrolet Corsicas for $250, get them running and sell them for $1500.

Talk about getting hit across the head. :banghead:

I've been preying on native americans lately as they seem to have just gotten a bunch of money from the Gov.


The supra is in Kansas.

I'v
Integra - Hell NO. Prelude is a "MUCH" better car.


laugh.

prelude is a comfy sports luxuryish car.

integra is the closest thing you will get to a fwd sports car out of japan.

better aftermarket support and almost 400lbs lighter stock v. stock. i wonder why honda chose the integra as the platform for the type R. hint: it's not because the prelude is a superior car.

laugh.

prelude is a comfy sports luxuryish car.

integra is the closest thing you will get to a fwd sports car out of japan.

better aftermarket support and almost 400lbs lighter stock v. stock. i wonder why they chose the integra as the platform for the type R. hint: it's not because the prelude is a superior car.

Well this also depends on what year and model you're comparing.

A 3rd Gen Prelude will all out mop the floor with a 2nd Gen and some 3rd Gen Tegs, save the Type R, which can't even be had in the US. My 3rd Gen Prelude was 2800 pounds loaded with me in it and handled like it was on rails. Not to take anything away from the Intergra. It's a great car, but it's no Prelude.

The heaviest Prelude was around 3000 pounds. What intergra was 2600 pounds at the same the the Prelude weighed in at 3000? None.

Aftermarket support? I guess they have more "altezza's and clear corners" for the Teg. Other than that, you can get all the F/I and N/A mods you need for either car. You may have more vendors for the teg, but that's to be expected, more tegs were produced.

There have been a couple of comparos with the 3rd Gen Type R Integra and the 5th Gen Honda Prelude Type S/SH. It can go either way.

The "Premier" FWD sports car has been the Prelude for years, until it's demise. Unlike the teg, the Prelude had its own separate platform and wasn't based on some econobox. It also had it's own engine (H22, b20a5, b20a, etc.)

I could go on all day, but stock for stock, Prelude owns the integra. PreludePower.com will give you an immediate wake up call.

But for some ricers, it ain't a tight car if it aint a "type R" :rolleyes:

BTW, the Integra never had more power than the Prelude, I wonder why ;)

My 3rd Gen Prelude was 2800 pounds loaded with me in it

bullshit.

dum dee dum dum

http://members.lycos.nl/hendrik/prelude/specs_old.htm#1988
92-96 lude. lightest was 2809lbs curb. i call bullshit as well.

http://www.fast-autos.net/honda/hondaprelude.html
the final gen ludes were even more porkish at 3042 lbs.

http://www.g2ic.com/specs.php
old tegs 1990 weighed in 2560 lbs curb

http://www.fast-autos.net/acura/acuraintegra.html
2000 typeR 2639 lbs curb

2000 teggy - 2001 lude = 400lb difference.

don't be a retard. i'd be the last person to be a honduh typeR monkey.

...http://members.lycos.nl/hendrik/prelude/specs_old.htm#1988
92-96 lude. lightest was 2809lbs curb. i call bullshit as well.

Hes talking about the 3rd. gen.(88-91) which weight in between 2566-2690(MT).

, save the Type R, which can't even be had in the US.

Yes it can.


Edit: well, maybe the 2G can't but that was still a stupid thing to say...........

Hes talking about the 3rd. gen.(88-91) which weight in between 2566-2690(MT).

ohh, so he owned a real pos. Looks like this broke as jigs "stuff" that he has so much of is nothing but a bunch of garbage.

ohh, so he owned a real pos. Looks like this broke as jigs "stuff" that he has so much of is nothing but a bunch of garbage.

Don't be jellous meddle.


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Alex-7/82_1_b.jpg




You know you want one...........................

^^^^

That car right there will pw3n everything this side of a type R !

That car right there will pw3n everything this side of a type R !

Ha, that lude is stock. Now this is a performance machine....
http://www.showoffride.com/images/undercon.jpg

Hes talking about the 3rd. gen.(88-91) which weight in between 2566-2690(MT).

good catch wonner.

i don't know lude gens. i based my comparison on the one in the picture he posted...

oh well. all that arguing for nothing! :dunno:

The 88-91 Preludes were nothing more than a FWD knockoff S12 notchback. You might as well get one of those.

good catch wonner.

i don't know lude gens. i based my comparison on the one in the picture he posted...

oh well. all that arguing for nothing! :dunno:

I could have told you that the lighest Prelude wasn't anywhere near 3000 loaded with a passenger. 2nd Gens were even lighter, and had more power to boot with the b20 engine.

Anyway, not everyone is familiar with ludes. It's the bastard child of the Honda family that never got the lime light it deserved.

anyway, no hard feelings. I get a bit uneasy when it comes to the Lude ;)

....2nd Gens were even lighter, and had more power to boot with the b20 engine.


Actually, the 2nd gens are lighter (2293/2379 for the Si), but the power is less (100/110hp 107/114lb-ft.).

Actually, the 2nd gens are lighter (2293/2379 for the Si), but the power is less (100/110hp 107/114lb-ft.).

The 2nd Gen can be had with an exclusive b20, that was 160HP back in 1987. It's very rare, and it's a JDM motor. Just as there was a 1991 150 HP Honda Prelude available in the UK. Our version had 140 due to emissions restrictions. This is well before the days of VTEC, and with 2.0/2.1L back in the early 90's.

The 2nd Gen can also be fitted with the B16, nearly a direct drop in.

JDM?..UKDM??....we're talking about USDM here.;)

JDM?..UKDM??....we're talking about USDM here.;)

Just letting you know, that I "DO" know ;) I'm not the one to go "google" up some info. I'm speaking from what I know first hand.

..I'm not the one to go "google" up some info.


Oh, thats what I did. :wiggle:

Oh, thats what I did. :wiggle:

lol, well sometimes we need reinforcement so we can get our facts straight. I'll be the first to admit that i didn't know that the teggy type r was 2600 pounds. 1 for BabyUsher, 1 for Aznoopy.

Well, with that said, can we get back on task here? I need another car folks, and can we keep it clean? I'd be nice if I didn't have the BS posts in here at random.

Carry on :D

anyway, no hard feelings. I get a bit uneasy when it comes to the Lude ;)

of course not! imo it's just fun arguing over the internet. :wiggle:

rxtasy,
No manual ? :dunno:

yes it will be.


michael - that rust looks much less severe than the other car. I'm sure you can fix that in an afternoon. Also it won't be hard to match that factory paint.

main concern will be just trying to stop it. as for matching the paint, probably just be primer like the other one.

Ive driven a few Preludes but they we're all mediocre imo (a 4WS, newer one, older model, drove Marks but it was an auto at the time ( like the dash) , an H22 powered one...)

i like the cheap 90-93 teggies bc they have the b18a1 stock... can turbo it for practically nothing... like the styling better -vs- 91'ish ludes, pretty light, reliable, still not a great handler like the lude, still fwd... opinions are like assholes... illstreet is full of both.

Ive driven a few Preludes but they we're all mediocre imo (a 4WS, newer one, older model, drove Marks but it was an auto at the time ( like the dash) , an H22 powered one...)

i like the cheap 90-93 teggies bc they have the b18a1 stock... can turbo it for practically nothing... like the styling better -vs- 91'ish ludes, pretty light, reliable, still not a great handler like the lude, still fwd... opinions are like assholes... illstreet is full of both.

That should be the quote of the week.

The Lude is a great handling car, but I wish there were more aftermarket support for the 3rd Gen. If it weren't for that flaw, I wouldn't be having this conversation.

So you've never owner a RWD car, but you think you prelude handles like its on rails? you have NO IDEA what you're missing. Everyone here is a RWD nazi because its so much better.

Also, $800-1000 for a manual swap for an S13!?? double you tee eff!!??? maybe if you pay the nissan dealership to do it for you?? aznpoopy am i missing something?

I dont get why you're even concerned with performance, it's obviously not your priority. Just get whatever 'looks' best to you.

So you've never owner a RWD car, but you think you prelude handles like its on rails? you have NO IDEA what you're missing. Everyone here is a RWD nazi because its so much better.

Also, $800-1000 for a manual swap for an S13!?? double you tee eff!!??? maybe if you pay the nissan dealership to do it for you?? aznpoopy am i missing something?

I dont get why you're even concerned with performance, it's obviously not your priority. Just get whatever 'looks' best to you.
http://files.naiv.us/macros/OH%20SNAP/ohsnap.jpg

So you've never owner a RWD car, but you think you prelude handles like its on rails? you have NO IDEA what you're missing. Everyone here is a RWD nazi because its so much better.

Also, $800-1000 for a manual swap for an S13!?? double you tee eff!!??? maybe if you pay the nissan dealership to do it for you?? aznpoopy am i missing something?

I dont get why you're even concerned with performance, it's obviously not your priority. Just get whatever 'looks' best to you.

For me to go to a junkyard here, find an S13, get a tranny, linkage, etc. It'll run me close to 800.

As i've said before, if I can find a 240SX in good condition, it's def. a consideration.

I'm concerned with Performance, but i'm also concerned with looks, yes. But with that being said, there's not much difference between a Probe and a 240. Both are hatches, and look relatively similar.

babyusher, can you please provide proof of one racing serious that the prelude ever dominated? Hell can you find a series where it was even competetive? You claim this is the premeir fwd sporty girl car, back that claim up.

http://www.vfsvideos.co.uk/sal03.jpg

However, i'm by no means defending the car.... lol, just providing an example....

But with that being said, there's not much difference between a Probe and a 240. Both are hatches, and look relatively similar.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/DarkAngelKamui/One%20Liners%20Part%20Deux/sign_INCORRECT.jpg

Well one's RWD and another's FWD. :D
Probe has an available V6, 240 has a 4 banger
They're very similar in size, well i'm not telling you guys anything that you dont know already.

I'm not gonna entertain you by googling up some links. If you want to know more about it, i'm sure you have internet access. And i'm not sure what a Racing "Serious" is, nor premeir, nor competetive.

I've seen many Preludes of all years at multiple autoX courses. The car has always been competitive in its class. There are many Luders who are on PreludePower.com who compete in autoX events. You want more insight, go there, and search.

It seems like you're concentrating on finding something to nit pick about that you're misspelling words just to try and make a point, and not to mention your annoying posts on the last couple of pages that were just out of the blue and were completely irrelevant and ignorant to the subject at hand. It's getting old, really.

In a nutshell, the Prelude has "always" been competitive. It just happened to suffer the same fate as the RX-7. Higher prices with a shrinking market led to its demise.

Sure, you'll come back and have some insults posted. Who cares? You're wasting your time. I've gotten all the insight I need from the topic, so you can entertain yourself in front of your computer all you want. I don't have time to reply to your bullshit, which is exactly why i've ignored you throughout this thread.

Anyway...

Thanks for all the insight and opinions from you guys. It's been helpful, and seriously made me reconsider what I will purchase in the coming months.

I'm not gonna entertain you by googling up some links. If you want to know more about it, i'm sure you have internet access. And i'm not sure what a Racing "Serious" is, nor premeir, nor competetive.

I've seen many Preludes of all years at multiple autoX courses. The car has always been competitive in its class. There are many Luders who are on PreludePower.com who compete in autoX events. You want more insight, go there, and search.

It seems like you're concentrating on finding something to nit pick about that you're misspelling words just to try and make a point, and not to mention your annoying posts on the last couple of pages that were just out of the blue and were completely irrelevant and ignorant to the subject at hand. It's getting old, really.

In a nutshell, the Prelude has "always" been competitive. It just happened to suffer the same fate as the RX-7. Higher prices with a shrinking market led to its demise.

Sure, you'll come back and have some insults posted. Who cares? You're wasting your time. I've gotten all the insight I need from the topic, so you can entertain yourself in front of your computer all you want. I don't have time to reply to your bullshit, which is exactly why i've ignored you throughout this thread.

Anyway...

Thanks for all the insight and opinions from you guys. It's been helpful, and seriously made me reconsider what I will purchase in the coming months.


A couple of jerkoffs meeting on sunday morning ina parking lot to mow over cones is not serious racing.

talking about wanna be preppy frat boy jerkoffs or either pre mid-life crisis guys? lots of those around here.

forgot to add their jailbait attention whore groupies...

talking about wanna be preppy frat boy jerkoffs or either pre mid-life crisis guys? lots of those around here.

I thik you are forgetting about bullshitting afro american dipshit. We got one of those too.

If you are going to go FWD for gods sake do NOT GET A PROBE.

Yes I've seen fast Probes, however the ratio of fast Probes to Probes dead on the side of the road suggests that they are not the best idea.

For that matter I saw a fast Dodge Omni Turbo. Would I buy it? NO.

Well one's RWD and another's FWD. :D
Probe has an available V6, 240 has a 4 banger
They're very similar in size, well i'm not telling you guys anything that you dont know already.

lol, that's like saying shit and a candy bar are similar because they're the same color and around the same size....

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/43895/page002.html

that's like saying shit and a candy bar are similar because they're the same color and around the same size....
http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/9981/hankscorpiolol7nq.jpg

When a FWD car teaches you new driving techniques, that's not exactly what i'd call "progress"....

Upon further investigation, I realize the link I posted is just the POV of 1 biased critic....heres the main link:http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=43895/pageNumber=1?synpartner=edmunds&pageurl=www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/43895/article.html

Why waste your money on a piece of shit like a probe or an MX-6? Think about it. For your plans you are going to spend 2-3k on a piece of shit, then do whatever to the motor, supercharge it, whatever. In then end, you're going to have like 6 or 7 grand in a car that is still in the class of gay asian persuasion.

If you want something cheap and fast go get an old fox body 5.0 that it's in good shape, drop 2k and freshen up the motor, throw a couple bolt ons in there, and have a decent car that is actually fast.

If you want something cheap and fast go get an old fox body 5.0 that it's in good shape, drop 2k and freshen up the motor, throw a couple bolt ons in there, and have a decent car that is actually fast.



They are hard to beat for the money......


But we're talking about a black kid here. He would rather identify with asian rice boys than white trash.

The nig in 2f2f didn't drive no domestic.

Also, $800-1000 for a manual swap for an S13!?? double you tee eff!!??? maybe if you pay the nissan dealership to do it for you?? aznpoopy am i missing something?

the actual cost can vary alot. $800-1000 isn't unrealistic if he's getting someone to do it for him.

the actual cost of parts isn't that bad. i haven't had to do one myself; but i would guess parts would come out to $400-$500 easily.

But we're talking about a black kid here. He would rather identify with asian rice boys than white trash.

the 240sx community is actually composed of goofy white guys who want to be japanese. contrary to what you would think, dak actually fits pretty well into this category. ;)

asian guys are too busy trying to look cool to drive around an old junker like a s13. they get their rich inattentive parents to buy them BMWs instead.

asian guys are too busy trying to look cool to drive around an old junker like a s13. they get their rich inattentive parents to buy them BMWs instead.

:werd:

I don't know, I still see alot of asians and mixed asians driving around in shitty riced out cars. Their expression is always the exact same when I ride by on my bike or pull up in the FC.....http://home.earthlink.net/~deedaze/braille.gif

And after they make that face, they rev their piece of shit 240 at me and burn out at the stoplight.

Oh, and anyone interested in 240's should definitely go and check out this forum-
http://www.invisionplus.net/forums/index.php?mforum=1069&showtopic=50

Oh, and anyone interested in 240's should definitely go and check out this forum-
http://www.invisionplus.net/forums/index.php?mforum=


WTF?!?!



:roll:

uhhhh...slightly NWS!!




And fuggin gross!!

^^yeah, what he said^^

Oh, and anyone interested in 240's should definitely go and check out this forum-
http://www.invisionplus.net/forums/index.php?mforum=1069&showtopic=50




How the fuck did you come across that?

do we really want to know the answer to that?

:roll:

How the fuck did you come across that?


You'd be amazed at what Google throws at you when you search "Asian boy"

great... remind me not to browse illstreet at law school anymore

im sure the people sitting behind me think i'm gay now. :(

Ahahahahahahahahah!

Glad I could be of service.

great... remind me not to browse illstreet at law school anymore

im sure the people sitting behind me think i'm gay now. :(



hahhahahaha :gay2: