Christianity cannot be seen as a respectable religion as long as it features Jesus, a man who claims as a father a god whose character revealed in the Old Testament is so flawed that it looks like a diabolical plan to discredit God in its entirety. How can anybody, who believes in a god of love, have anything to do with the apologist for a psychopathic genocidal monster that is Jesus Christ?

keeping mercy for thousands,


I love the Lord God, the merciful Father of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ


"thousands" = 999,999.0 OR LESS.

could mean 2000.

out of the number of the entire human population SO FAR.


According to the International Programs Center, U.S. Bureau of the Census, the total population of the World, projected to 12/17/06 at 05:50 GMT (EST+5) is

6,563,773,184

pretty extremely narrow gate sacrificing a god buys.

considering a ratio of 6564/1 get to visit scenic HELL for ETERNITY.

with a ratio of mercy to merciless of one to more than seven thousand god rather leans HEAVILY on the merciless side, eh ?

does "thousands" really mean tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, or millions ?

there is no rhapsodic sand on the beach,or stars in the sky refrence, just a streightforward "thousands" .

that's a good question (what percentage of humanity will be saved?), and of course no one knows the answer

a direct quote from gods own lips to moses himself, specifically addressing the question 'how many shall have mercy', with an answer of

thousands

means absolutely nothing then.

since it DOESN'T mean "thousands" in a world of thousands of MILLIONS.

interesting point

but I believe this is a reference to the Jews of that time, which may have numbered several hundred thousand

so if a direct quote from gods own lips to moses himself is ambiguous unto meaninglessness EVEN TO ONE WHO IS GRANTED SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT how much less credence does a mere unattributed tribal legend talking about 6 "days" rate ?

Please work on your -

... wit.

Main Entry: wit
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Ummmm...I second that!

“The LORD, the LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abounding in goodness and truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children’s children to the third and the fourth generation.”

I love that passage....I love the Lord God, the merciful Father of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ

Interesting. Has your god been merciful to you or do you just say these words because you heard it spoken from your pew mate?

Your qualities of god are, however, not necessarily consistent. For example, it is not possible for a person to be just, peaceful and merciful, all in one instance or situation. If a 'guilty' person or a nation deserves punishment by the rule of justice, you must punish him or wage war on them, but this would be a violation of the rule of peace or mercy.

Not one being could have all these qualities because they contradict each other; iaw my observance, they cannot exist together in the same person at the same time. It is as though a man had turned both left and right at the same corner at the same time, while still remaining whole and entire.

I call bullshit and you bought it hook line and sinker. Look before you leap.

you can't take stuff out of context and run wild with it


the context is the all perfect god speaking IN PERSON to his most holy prophet.

the 'stuff' is the ACTUAL words spoken by god.

are you saying that when god speaks what he says is LIMITED in the truth it contains ?

that he says only PART of the truth, leaving out part of the truth THAT COULD EASILY BE INCLUDED ?

how can god speak incompletely ? imperfectly ?

if the INTENT is to decieve.
THAT would make an incomplete half truth perfect, as long as it created the desired FALSE impression in the victems mind.

sure, he HIDES the truth from us normal cursed types, but he ALSO hides truth from y'all glorious chosen few ?

he could have said 'I will have mercy on lots of people' and been wholly accurate, but he CHOSE to say thousands, not even "multiplied thousands".



follows, a full on, classic, "Straw Man". :bigthumb:

example: the statement of Jesus that "this generation will by no means pass away until all these things are fulfilled" (in the context of the events of the Tribulation)

people run WILD with that statement...I believe it simply refers to the fact that the Jews will persist as a distinct race/people right through the Tribulation

instead of jesus ACTUALLY MEANING, "this generation will by no means pass away until all these things are fulfilled" (in the context of the events of the Tribulation).

more of that 'spiritual discernment' at work. allowing you to know when he really means exactly the opposit of what he chose to HAVE WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE.

handy thing, that spiritual discernment.