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aznpoopy 09-28-2005, 10:48 PM http://media.putfile.com/copkiller72220-5303
http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=15034
Deputy Kyle Wayne Dinkheller
Laurens County Sheriff's Department
Georgia
End of Watch: Monday, January 12, 1998
Biographical Info
Age: 22
Tour of Duty: 4 yr
Badge Number: 37
Incident Details
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Date of Incident: Monday, January 12, 1998
Weapon Used: Rifle; .30 caliber
Suspect Info: Sentenced to death
Deputy Dinkheller was shot and killed after pulling over a man on a rural road about 6 miles north of Dublin, Georgia. During the traffic stop he called in for backup. Before the backup arrived he was shot by the man with a rifle. He was able to return fire, striking the suspect in the stomach. The suspect was found during a search the next morning and taken into custody. The incident was videotaped by an a camera in the cruiser. On January 28, 2000, the suspect was found guilty of murder and on January 30 was sentenced to death.
Deputy Dinkheller is survived by his pregnant wife and 22-month-old daughter. Deputy Dinkheller's son was born in early September, 1998.
yes, combat training matters. i forgot who, but someone said something about combat training not making a difference in gun battles. maybe it was on another forum. anyway, the information is still interesting.
Brannan, a Vietnam veteran, advanced firing on the deputy. Dinkheller returned fire, but succeeded only in breaking a window in the driver’s side of the pickup and wounding Brannan in the stomach. Using `suppressive fire’, Brannan systematically, methodically shot Dinkheller in the arms, legs, exposed areas that would not be covered had Dinkheller been wearing a bulletproof vest, slowly executing him. Reloading his weapon Brannan continued firing with the final death shot to Dinkheller’s right eye.
:(
RIP
aznpoopy 09-28-2005, 11:01 PM i just realized i meant to type in 'killed in the line of duty'
oh well
....you got your point accross.
jimlab 09-29-2005, 01:01 AM yes, combat training matters.Matters how, precisely? In what way did combat training factor into that video?
If anything, the officer gave him WAY too many chances and waited WAY too long to start firing. I would have shot him as he repeatedly defied orders not to return to his vehicle and let a board of inquiry sort it out.
Fuck taking one for the team because the liberal media and bleeding hearts jump on supposed police brutality so often that law enforcement officers are now afraid to use lethal force to protect themselves lest they be suspended or prosecuted.
i forgot who, but someone said something about combat training not making a difference in gun battles.No, someone said that combat training didn't particularly make the asshole who ambushed and killed the 6 hunters any more able to kill than someone without combat training. Look at the Columbine high school massacre... was that the result of more combat training?
rx-7_Z06 09-29-2005, 02:16 AM Thats fucking sad.
2ndGen.Rocket 09-29-2005, 07:55 AM I'd a shot the fucker in the knee cap when he started screaming at me. Taze that bitch or something.
aznpoopy 09-29-2005, 07:57 AM Matters how, precisely? In what way did combat training factor into that video?
in 'the line of duty' training pdf, they talk about the actual gunfight; which is what i quoted above.
the cop was wearing a vest. as a result, the vet aimed specifically for arms and legs. he not only shot to wound, but also to surpress, so he could charge in and wound the officer; taking advantage of the fact that he was better armed. after wounding the cops' legs and arms, the vet then closed in and shot the officer in the face.
i think that demonstrates some level of strategy.
If anything, the officer gave him WAY too many chances and waited WAY too long to start firing. I would have shot him as he repeatedly defied orders not to return to his vehicle and let a board of inquiry sort it out.
Fuck taking one for the team because the liberal media and bleeding hearts jump on supposed police brutality so often that law enforcement officers are now afraid to use lethal force to protect themselves lest they be suspended or prosecuted.
otherwise, i agree with this 100%
Supper 09-29-2005, 09:02 AM was that the result of more combat training?
it was those evil computer games.
BATMAN 09-29-2005, 09:24 AM once u get shot for the first time I would suspect that ur panic levels are way up.
This could either save u, or with an inexperienced and trained officer, it would work against u.
jimlab 09-29-2005, 10:46 AM the cop was wearing a vest. as a result, the vet aimed specifically for arms and legs.Bullshit. Apparently he aimed specifically for the windshield of the police cruiser as well...
he not only shot to wound, but also to surpress, so he could charge in and wound the officer;What else would you do in a gun battle??
taking advantage of the fact that he was better armed.Of course he was better armed. He had a semi-automatic assault rifle...
after wounding the cops' legs and arms, the vet then closed in and shot the officer in the face.And of course no one without combat training would ever do that...
i think that demonstrates some level of strategy. I think you're giving the guy entirely too much credit. An assault rifle at close range would have knocked the cop on his ass no matter if he had a vest on or not. What I saw was a bunch of random firing that eventually resulted in the cop's death because the other guy was better armed and out of his fucking mind. Period.
It happens every goddamn day, and not all of the people who do it are combat trained specialists. The liberal media loves to latch on to background information like that and pump up the stories so that they pull more viewers or readers... because they're in the business of selling advertising, not news.
aznpoopy 09-29-2005, 11:06 AM its all good. i respectfully disagree.
i am not an expert on gun battles. the gun fight analysis was taken from a police training pdf called 'in the line of fire.' their purpose is to take real life gun battles and glean lessons from them that might benefit future officers who find themselves in similar situations. as such, i trust in their analysis.
on the other hand, i do agree with you on the general issue of the media sensationalizing stories. i just don't think it's relevant here.
RX7_2ner 09-30-2005, 09:47 PM someone needs to learn how to aim. well, no point now.
at least the vietnam vet was put to death.
vietnam vets around here are weird. they act like they deserve special treatment. i could give a shit less about them.
AmishBoy 10-01-2005, 12:30 AM Damn this was so wrong on so many levels. First off the cop was being a typical smart ass. His tone of voice was terrible he could have taken control by being more assertive. He lets the guy go back to his truck and dig behind the seat what the hell is that about. Then when he saw the gun he really started screaming like a bitch. After that the fucker shoots him and then starts walking away to leave and the cop shoots at him hitting him in the stomach so of course the guy comes over and finishes him off.
That cop should have done everything different but at least he should have stood his ground and put two to the chest and one to the head when he saw the gun coming out of the truck.
RB240 10-01-2005, 08:59 AM this is going to sound morbid and bad on my part but what a stupid fuck. I would have lit into his ass with my gun. Oh well. :dunno:
DarkAngelKamui 10-01-2005, 11:17 AM Jesus, what a dumbass cop....
Sorry he got killed and all, but he had that one coming....
aznpoopy 10-01-2005, 11:23 AM i think the problem was age...
he was only 22 years old
still a kid, IMO
DarkAngelKamui 10-01-2005, 11:25 AM I'm 21 and I STILL wouldn't have made that mistake...
Cosby 10-01-2005, 11:27 AM I imagine his training would have said to shoot the guy the second he saw the gun after the psycho was talking about killing people.
RB240 10-01-2005, 04:40 PM Thats training video..
okay class, this is what you DO NOT...DO
Really sad that happened to him but enough yelling. LIght into his ass. Shit, its cops word against a dead fool. Haha, I think I know who would win. (Plus the video shows he was threatened by a gun.) Fuck back up, only back up needed would be to clean up his dead body.
rx-7_Z06 10-01-2005, 09:07 PM I would have shot/tazed the fucker when he came at me the first time. I DEFINITELY would have shot him if he started to dig around in his truck.
RB240 10-02-2005, 12:48 AM Anybody lame enough to count how many times he yelled at the guy saying the same stupid shit but go nowhere?
Did he honestly think that was going to work? Then the guy grabs a rifle and begins to load it. .... Wow...
aznpoopy 10-02-2005, 11:33 AM Anybody lame enough to count how many times he yelled at the guy saying the same stupid shit but go nowhere?
Did he honestly think that was going to work? Then the guy grabs a rifle and begins to load it. .... Wow...
he even got a chance to reload the rifle to finish him off. wounded or not, i would've charged him then and there with the pistol and killed him.
2ndGen.Rocket 10-02-2005, 12:09 PM Yeah, I don't think I know of any cop that would stand there yelling as some guy loaded a rifle. I would have shot the fucking shit out of his ass.
FeatherTheClutch 10-02-2005, 12:43 PM You guys make me laugh. "oh i would of shot the guy, im a big badass that can say that when im not in the situation" maybe some of you would of lit him up, but when you are in the situation is is much differnt.
It is much easier to say somthing than to actually do it.
2ndGen.Rocket 10-02-2005, 01:00 PM Not when you are fully justified in your actions. It's not as if he needed to make a decision that he was going to be reprimanded for, he had every right in the world to blast that guy as soon as he ran up on him. When the guy was loading the damn rifle he should have already been on the ground wounded or dead.
DarkAngelKamui 10-02-2005, 01:42 PM It is much easier to say somthing than to actually do it.
Care to test that theory with a re-enactment? ;)
jimlab 10-02-2005, 02:24 PM It is much easier to say somthing than to actually do it.Perhaps, but I'd like to think that a strong self-preservation instinct coupled with the time I've spent range shooting and killing things would make me better suited to react to a situation of that type. Of course, that is if I remembered to hold my pistol sideways like in the movies...
Anyone else notice that there appeared to be a passenger in the truck?
RB240 10-02-2005, 02:32 PM Anyone else notice that there appeared to be a passenger in the truck?
I did.
RX7_2ner 10-02-2005, 05:26 PM Of course, that is if I remembered to hold my pistol sideways like in the movies...
I don't know if anyone knows this, but that is the most accurate way aim your pistol in a prone position. Movies seem to fuck that up, as well.
jimlab 10-02-2005, 06:40 PM I don't know if anyone knows this, but that is the most accurate way aim your pistol in a prone position...Where did you hear this?
DarkAngelKamui 10-02-2005, 07:16 PM lol, I was about to ask the same question....
RX7_2ner 10-02-2005, 10:03 PM you are laying on your side, also. i forgot to mention that. watch swat competitions, the commentators will mention it sometimes.
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