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czarofzar
08-31-2008, 10:17 PM
Real miracles become nonexistence even before death. You just haven't experienced it yet.

But i suppose Death is the dividing line between us and whats in god's hand. I lost a mother on both sides of that line from Alzheimer. Like tufo, bx7, and pep, she was the original xtain in my family and still was prior to her death.

There are bigger moments than the regular run of the mill miracles we expect. Even as we ask life to grant us the chance to survive, anything beyond that, we can never beg a miracle since frankly, it's bigger than my ignored bound in duty or promised obligation.

But God is slow granting any miracles since Alzheimer is bigger than cancer. And it came too late for the woman who only czar can admire. Ever hear of god stepping up to the plate for that? naw. It has to be cancer only.

skydivr7673
08-31-2008, 10:33 PM
first, my condolences for your loss

second, I dont understand exactly what it is that you are looking for, to be honest. we cannot all survive death, that would make no sense. Everyone will die from this place, that cannot be changed by asking for a miracle. we dont get to pick and choose our time. and I know that when it happens, when we lose a loved one, nothing makes sense about that. but the fact is this--there cannot be life without death. we all go through it. the funny thing is this--we ask god for help, but we often dont understand exactly what form that help can come in. a lot of people ask for a certain miracle, and they want this one specific outcome, so if something else happens instead they think that god didnt listen to them. god's job isnt to grand our every wish, though, so often our prayers get a different answer than what we expected. you said that she was a christian--so in reality this is a blessing for her because she is no longer sick. she feels no pain and never will again. I dont expect you to believe that simply because i do or because she did, but I am asking that you consider that this is what she believed with her life. Ultimately, from my personal experience, there is sometimes a peace that can only be found on the other side of the suffering. i hope that somehow that gives you even just a little comfort, though i understand if it doesnt.

again, my condolences on your loss, and thanks for sharing your thoughts.

czarofzar
08-31-2008, 10:42 PM
wow sky. l never thought you were capable to deliver warm words that can make a guy like me smile. Thank you for your sweet thoughts for my mom.

Death can dispel illusions of miracles. Don't you think?

skydivr7673
08-31-2008, 10:52 PM
think of it like this--life is like any other journey. its always best to know the intended destination and to plan the best route that will take you there. otherwise, what chance do you have of actually getting to the place youre trying to get to?

as for death and miracles, it all depends on your beliefs. personally, i think its a miracle that we have a way to reach a place where we wont ever suffer again. Your beliefs and focus make all the difference there. You are correct to admire your mom, even in death--anyone can say 'I'm a christian' when they are healthy. it takes a really strong faith to be able to say with certainty 'i am a christian' when you know death is coming. Even if there were no god, that strength is rare and something to be admired. Perhaps thats the biggest thing you may take away from this--her strength even at that moment. that is what I meant when I said there's a certain peace that can only be found on the other side of the suffering.

95whitepep
09-02-2008, 12:54 PM
Man cz, I sorry for your loss. I personally cant stand cancer...with a passion. Not only does it affect the person but the family, friends. Its a disease that everyone gets.

My condolences with you and your family with your loss

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