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Forum rules a crazy.

No cursing.

No chit chat.

No attacks...

It's like Sunday school.

I think I would have a real problem with rule #6

Looking to mod the tracer?

I used to have an escort, before the head went out.

6. Have a good time!
The point of this forum is for all of us, as members of a community, to learn about what else is in our lives than escorts. The key is having fun. Hopefully by following the five above guidelines we can make everyone feel welcome and comfortable.

If your that in love with a ford escort I dont think there's alot to look forward to in life...

Looking to mod the tracer?

...

I used to have an escort, before the head went out.

*sigh*

I already ordered the head gasket kit, and I am going to track down a new head this week. Next week is spring break, so instead of partying, I'm rebuilding my motor.

we need to send them that vid of the two homos in the gold ford escort with switches....someone's got to know the one I am talking about, when they roll up on the brothers blasting the gay-ass music

There is only one reason why they have rules like this--imagine how many people would go in there otherwise, and blast the shit out of these idiots for having a forum dedicated to the ford asscort....the ZX-2 is the only car I know of off hand that should have come from the factory with the rainbow sticker as standard equipment.

There is only one reason why they have rules like this--imagine how many people would go in there otherwise, and blast the shit out of these idiots for having a forum dedicated to the ford asscort....the ZX-2 is the only car I know of off hand that should have come from the factory with the rainbow sticker as standard equipment.

HAHAHA you make a good point there. Plus, their members are probably already pretty soft to begin with.

the ZX-2 is the only car I know of off hand that should have come from the factory with the rainbow sticker as standard equipment.


Ha, I've always called those things Ford Niggars.

whenever I see a guy driving one of those ZX2s I ask, "What was the car you really wanted, but couldnt afford so you got stuck with this shitbox??"

Either that, or his car broke down and he's got his girls car instead

who has that vid I was talking about??

I was talking to a girl at a bar a couple months ago who explained to me that she had a sports car.........and it turned out to be a ford niggar.

Funny thing is I saw an '01 with like 90k bust 4k at a dealer auction a month or so ago. some lot musta known all the black women would be getting their tax returns soon and they could charge whatever they wanted for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm5_exEftNc

Yeah, thank god mine's a 95. They have a *decent* body style.

Ideally, I wold be able to get rid of the current problem child and pick up a Escort GT or Tracer LTS. BUt I don't see that happening.

Escort GT, thats like dressing a pig in a wedding dress. At the end of the day, its still a pig.

I never understood why carmakers embarass themselves like that---taking the base model econobox and making a "GT" version. I remember when the Cavalier had a "Rally Sport" model...you could put frosting on a jock strap, that dont make it a cupcake.

Escort GT, thats like dressing a pig in a wedding dress. At the end of the day, its still a pig.

I never understood why carmakers embarass themselves like that---taking the base model econobox and making a "GT" version. I remember when the Cavalier had a "Rally Sport" model...you could put frosting on a jock strap, that dont make it a cupcake.

And rotary engines are pointless, yes, we know.

Except the 2nd Generation GTs or Tracer LTSs have a Mazda BP I4, which is a 1.8L DOHC engine putting out 127 HP versus the 1.9L SOHC's 88 HP. The motor was used in Miatas, early Protege LXs, and a turbocharged version made its way into the AWD Mazda 323 GTX. These motors are also better for turbocharging and the cars are more likely to come with an manual transmission less prone to failure.

And rotary engines are pointless, yes, we know.

Considering the fact that I am a 7 owner, you clearly have no clue. But thats ok, you just keep on keeping on....you and your big bad dreams of an Escort GT.

Except the 2nd Generation GTs or Tracer LTSs have a Mazda BP I4, which is a 1.8L DOHC engine putting out 127 HP versus the 1.9L SOHC's 88 HP.

Is there a point anywhere in our future?? you say "127 hp" like we should all bow down and be in awe or something. Meanwhile, my daily driver has more than twice that horsepower, stock. And my favorite toy currently puts down over 300 at the rear wheels, soon to be in the 400 hp neighborhood. Am I supposed to be impressed by a four-banger that puts out 127 hp?

If you think so, then you should get used to disappointment.

The motor was used in Miatas

What made the miata good was its light weight and handling, plus the whole roadster concept. What makes the Escort GT a joke is that it lacks any real power, handles like a brick, and says "GT" on the back nonetheless. It's everything that a GT isnt, and nothing that a GT is supposed to be. PLEASE tell me youre not comparing an econobox "GT" to a purpose-built roadster.

early Protege LXs

Which didnt have the best reputation anyways. Thats why the Protege was scrapped and the Mazda 3 put in its place.

and a turbocharged version made its way into the AWD Mazda 323 GTX.

Well, isnt that completely different?? AWD, plus completely different suspension, plus a turbocharged four....as opposed to 30 more horses and a GT badge?? Youre talking apples and assholes here. Not even close. wow, they retuned the suspension a bit, but it is still essentially the exact same setup as the base model econobox escort had.

wow, the "escort GT".....let's have a look at this highly desirable performance machine:

http://escortfocus.com/html/history.html

The 1991 Escort GT was also revitalized. Leading the list of improvements was the addition of the Mazda 1.8L Double Overhead Cam (DOHC) engine making 127hp. This engine, when mated to a 5 speed manual, offered swift acceleration that has not been seen since the Turbo GT of 1984. Also, a sport tuned suspension was added along with 4 wheel disc brakes. Now the GT was able to handle and stop competently as well as be a street sleeper. 0-60 times for this GT with a 5 speed were about 8.3 seconds. This was the first model year the Escort GT was really taken as a serious performance subcompact.

WOW....that really makes it worth owning! Man, who wouldnt be laughed-at for such break-neck numbers?

Thats about the fastest that this car ever got. No powertrain changes came after that, really, except for going to platinum-tipped spark plugs in 1993. So, what good is boasting about all that "127 hp" when the car is slow as hell? Did someone lie to you and tell you that 127 horses was a lot?

These motors are also better for turbocharging and the cars are more likely to come with an manual transmission less prone to failure.

man....

let's clarify this for you, so that there is no misunderstanding. If you turbo that car, you will have a faster Escort. Thats it. It will still handle like shit. So then, you would have to redo the suspension, beef it up. How much does it cost today to turbo a NA car? $3000? $4000?? Then, modify the suspension...how much more? OK, now you need to swap out the exhaust, because you dont want a retrictive factory exhaust on a turbo engine. There goes another several hundred bucks. how about engine management?? By the time youre finished, what would you have spent? $5K, maybe more? Even if you spent a grand total of $3K on this project, you would still end up with a FORD ESCORT. So, you may chop a second off the 0-60 time. you would still have a slow-ass escort. And to get there you need to spend what--twice, three times what the car is actually worth??

Like I said before, you can put a pig in a wedding dress, at the end of the day you still have a pig. It wont magically become a hot blonde. Speaking of rotaries, the 1.3L rotary has more power in its stock NA form than this. And the NA FC is slow. Maybe you can put a really big wing on the back of your Escort, you know, to help the traction....

Why do you always feel the need to go so over the top?

For the record, I never said I was going to turbo it.

I said it would have been nice, because it has more pep. Kind of like how my FC was faster than my FB. They aren't breaking my neck. It's a fucking daily driver.

It's not like I'm racing an Escort with my family in it. I'm not racing it, period.

I must admit, though, I do pray, regularly, for your demise. I hate reading these long theses, where it's all self promotion. It's like YZF's bullshit.

As an interesting side note the European Escorts (known as the Ford Sierra) have a model that comes with a turbo Cosworth engine and has somewhere in the neighborhood of 400hp in AWD trim. IMO, it's the ultimate sleeper car. My buddy was running 9's after he blew a head gasket.....
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/9846/sierrarearwt7.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8475/s8001320qr9.jpg

Why do you always feel the need to go so over the top?

For the record, I never said I was going to turbo it.

I said it would have been nice, because it has more pep. Kind of like how my FC was faster than my FB. They aren't breaking my neck. It's a fucking daily driver.

It's not like I'm racing an Escort with my family in it. I'm not racing it, period.

I must admit, though, I do pray, regularly, for your demise. I hate reading these long theses, where it's all self promotion. It's like YZF's bullshit.

1--why am I so over the top??

"in an ideal world I would have an Escort GT....."

In an ideal world, you could have had a real car, chief. Not some wannabe imitation sporty car....but a real car. Damn, there are plenty of newer 4-cylinder cars out there that offer more sportiness while still getting decent mileage. In an ideal world, the Escort GT is the best you can come up with?? You get what you deserve when that faggotry is your contribution to this forum.

2--for the record I never said you were going to turbo it. I said it would be a total waste of time and money. You could have been smart, realized that my statement was correct, and left it at that, couldnt you? But instead, here you are replying like your stated position holds any merit whatsoever. So, it would have "had more pep". So would anything else with a turbo put on it. Or, for the cost of turboing that thing you could have simply gone out and gotten a better car. Some cars were never meant to have a turbo. Some cars would just be a waste of time and $$$ to put a turbo on them. This is one of those cars. Perhaps you can go on ebay and buy one of those electric turbos and let us know how it does for ya....:bigthumb:

3--if youre not racing it period, why all the talk about how great the GT was because of the 127 horsepower? Thats your talking right there, my friend. Why even mention the hp like it was some great number? Do you really think that 127 horses from a 4-banger is something amazing, or "ideal"?? Ideal would be getting rid of that shitbox and getting a real car.

4--feel free to pray for my demise, look how well that worked out for the last fucker that tried it. Perhaps you need a different strategy for your life, or at the very least, you need to be taught the definition of "ideal"....:blah:

In an ideal world, you could have had a real car, chief. Not some wannabe imitation sporty car....but a real car. :



http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Alex-7/87-ford-thunderbird-owner288.jpg

sure herschel, but that car has actually had the work done to it that way. They didnt just slap a turbo on a shitbox. It's AWD, with the proper suspension, and the drivetrain to handle that power. It's a complete package, and it comes that way from the factory. You can take basically ANY car and make it a winner if you do that work to it, as that car has been built. The work is the issue. But with a lot of cars, there comes a point where youre just wasting time and money. The "Escort GT" is one of those cars. Front drive, short wheelbase, no power, suspension not set up for anything resembling sport driving....but its got a massive(for its day) spoiler on the back!!

Don't turn my words around, you little bitch.

As an interesting side note the European Escorts (known as the Ford Sierra)


We got something called a Merkur XR4ti here that I think is pretty similar to the sierra. Rear drive, turbo 2.3. those were pretty cool little cars back in the day.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Alex-7/87-ford-thunderbird-owner288.jpg

who owns that piece of shit?

Don't turn my words around, you little bitch.

chief, let me spell this out for you. When you come into a forum and say that "in an ideal world you would have an Escort GT", right then and there, you have emasculated yourself to the point that you lose the right to EVER call someone else a bitch. In an ideal world you can have any car you choose....and thats the best you can do? Youve got far bigger problems in your life, if thats the case, then worrying about whether or not someone called your behavior faggotry on an internet forum.

When you say "bitch", because of the other things you have posted in here, it makes me picture a dude in drag with a big blonde wig and a dress....so sorry if that hits too close to home for you.

who owns that piece of shit?


One of your T-bird brethren.

You don't know him?

We got something called a Merkur XR4ti here that I think is pretty similar to the sierra. Rear drive, turbo 2.3. those were pretty cool little cars back in the day.

that car never seemed to get the respect it deserved, either. Of course, the other "Merkur" product, the "Scorpio", was nothing more than a Taurus with a longer-slanted back window. But the XR4TI was actually supposed to be a decent performer.

But the XR4TI was actually supposed to be a decent performer.

They were pretty damn fun and cheap to mod. Cheap as fuck to buy now,too.

This thread kinda makes me want one.

One of your T-bird brethren.

You don't know him?

that isnt even close to my car. youre pretty ignorant if you equate someone's 1987 backyard-rattlecan-paintjob NASCAR wannabe turbo coupe to my car. Those cars were boats, weighed too much, handled like complete shit, and its got a turbo four in it. wow....we're rollin now!!

Then again, a supercharged 3.8 that puts down 310 at the wheels is a far cry from a 190 hp four-banger in an overweight car. For some reason, I figured that you were smart enough to know the difference.

I guess not....

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/skydivr7673/my95sc.jpg

If you cant see the difference, even in just the external appearance, of these two cars, then thats on you.

They were pretty damn fun and cheap to mod. Cheap as fuck to buy now,too.

This thread kinda makes me want one.

I dont think I have seen one of those anywhere since high school. Does anyone even have one anymore?

I almost posted a pic of a super coupe. But that pic was too damn funny to pass up.

chief, let me spell this out for you. When you come into a forum and say that "in an ideal world you would have an Escort GT", right then and there, you have emasculated yourself to the point that you lose the right to EVER call someone else a bitch. In an ideal world you can have any car you choose....and thats the best you can do? Youve got far bigger problems in your life, if thats the case, then worrying about whether or not someone called your behavior faggotry on an internet forum.

When you say "bitch", because of the other things you have posted in here, it makes me picture a dude in drag with a big blonde wig and a dress....so sorry if that hits too close to home for you.

Dude, I've been here almost as long as you. So shut the fuck up, you have no clue what you are talking about.

I dont think I have seen one of those anywhere since high school. Does anyone even have one anymore?

I know a guy that had one about eight years ago.

Looked 'em up on ebay once and they were bringing 1-2k.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-merkur-xr4ti-1988-merkur-xr4ti-turbo_W0QQitemZ330218206117QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m330218206117



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Merkur-Merkur-XR4TI-stored-in-garage-for-10-yrs-18k-miles_W0QQitemZ250224273145QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m250224273145


I'd beat on one for that money. wierd looking or not.

Dude, I've been here almost as long as you. So shut the fuck up, you have no clue what you are talking about.

see, now youre just being a prick for the sake of being one.

Did I call you a noob or something? Did I say ANYTHING about the length of time you have been in this forum? No, actually, I didnt. I said you came in here and posted faggotry. You come in this forum every day that you log on, and so does everyone else--what the fuck does that have to do with how long youve been here?

Do we have to add "inability to read" to your list of faggotry now as well?

a supercharged 3.8 that puts down 310 at the wheels


Last dyno pull put it at 341 hp ...

The fish is supposed to get bigger the longer you tell the story.:bigthumb:

see, now youre just being a prick for the sake of being one.

Did I call you a noob or something? Did I say ANYTHING about the length of time you have been in this forum? No, actually, I didnt. I said you came in here and posted faggotry. You come in this forum every day that you log on, and so does everyone else--what the fuck does that have to do with how long youve been here?

Do we have to add "inability to read" to your list of faggotry now as well?

Faggotry is not a word, but I'll let you believe it is.

The fish is supposed to get bigger the longer you tell the story.:bigthumb:

Maybe I got it wrong then, because I was of the impression that a dyno measured at the engine, not at the wheels. Thats where the difference comes from

So you've had both your engine on a dyno, and your car on a chassis dyno?

I doubt it.

I want to dyno my tractor.

Define tractor...

Define tractor...

Tofu's new ride?
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8145/mickytractoriq0.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Geyser/2544/H1.jpg

Not actually mine, just one I was fixing up for my dad, he said I could borrow it indefinitely, but it looks much worse then that :p

Those are pretty cool. I've seen some rat rods that use the grill shell off of those.

15 HP 4000 ftl/lbs

Why do you always feel the need to go so over the top?



maybe you're his new yzf

So... I'm like his muse?

So you've had both your engine on a dyno, and your car on a chassis dyno?

I doubt it.


no, like I said, I was thinking that the dyno measured what the hp was supposed to be from the engine, not at the wheels. That doesnt mean that I had the engine dynoed separately. The car hasnt been on checked in quite some time, but the setup hasnt changed since then. I never claimed otherwise, thanks for playing.


So... I'm like his muse?

no, youre like the village idiot. Not too many heterosexual men would consider their "ideal car" to be a friggin ford escort. Besides, you were clearly making friends before I said anything to you...

http://www.theforumlounge.com/thebigaristotle-t10828.html

have a nice day!

Dude, my username gets changed on a whim. I've had like 8 different ones in the past year.

Besides, you were clearly making friends before I said anything to you...

http://www.theforumlounge.com/thebigaristotle-t10828.html

have a nice day!

For the record, that thread was started as a joke, I think he's a good guy.

For the record, that thread was started as a joke, I think he's a good guy.

Do you even remember my original username?

Do you even remember my original username?

Wotnarded or something like that... you explained it's meaning a couple of years ago. It's your name, right?

DIE NOOB WITH 2000 POSTS
wotnartardededed!

Ding ding!

wotnartd, but I like the change.

The only shitty thing is when I log in from a new computer. I need to remember my username, but don't. So, I usually end up searching threads I know I posted in.

AF high volt4ge (or whatever) called me wondertard on 7club, I liked that one.

DIE NOOB WITH 2000 POSTS
wotnartardededed!

I am the epitome of post whoring.

no, like I said, I was thinking that the dyno measured what the hp was supposed to be from the engine, not at the wheels.


Well, you are WRONG. Thanks for playing.

I'd have thought anyone with the skills to mod a Tbird would have the aptitude to note that since it's the wheels that spin the dyno rollers, it's power at the wheels that the dyno measures.

I guess not.

They don't have a magical logarithm that measures drive train loss for every car that rolls on them.

HAVE you ever dyno'd that pile? Or are you still "trying to find" those charts YZF asked to see?

Well, you are WRONG. Thanks for playing.

whadaya want, a fucking cookie?? didnt I already say I was wrong on this a few posts up? wow, a winnar is joo....now youre gonna be a retard too?

I'd have thought anyone with the skills to mod a Tbird would have the aptitude to note that since it's the wheels that spin the dyno rollers, it's power at the wheels that the dyno measures.

Considering the fact that the mods done since I got it only involved unbolting a supercharger and replacing it with another one, which was a direct bolt-on replacement, I guess you simply dont know what the fuck youre talking about. Since when does someone need to know all about dyno machines to use a fucking ratchet and sockets??

And yes, it has been dynoed. That doesnt mean I know everything about how the equipment works. I work in the petrochemical industry, and while I can find my way around a toolbox enough, that doesnt mean that I am by default a master at knowing all about the dyno machine. When it was done, the concern was more about making sure the tune was good and that it wouldnt detonate. Is it the fastest it could be? Who knows? At the same time, who cares? It runs without detonation, and it doesnt melt-down for lack of fuel. I dont need to be an expert there. And I already plainly admitted that I am not one. so, your point was......what, exactly?

Funny that you had to through out "thanks for playing" in the same post where you were admiting you were wrong isn't it?

Is that an internet combat reflex?

I don't believe you've ever dyno'd your Tbird, Because:

1. You've posted several different claimed HP's

2. You're "still looking" for your charts.

3. You're claimed HP is total bullshit when compaired to your mods list of "an upgraded supercharger and a pulley"

4. You have no idea how a dyno works and never bothered to ask when you where paying to have it done.

You're a backpeddling internet liar.

1--you also forgot the fact that most of the mods done to my car were done by the previous owner. Which wouldnt put me anywhere near doing them.

2--there have been exactly two figures posted. First, I said way back when that the car was running 308 hp. This would be the around 310 that I talked about. The second was the 341 hp. "several" ?? Nope. And since it was dynoed before I bought it, and dynoed after the new SC, thats all the numbers there are. Now youre just full of shit for no real reason.

3--when most of the mods were done before I bought it, and all I had to do was swap out the sc and pulley, no, there is no bullshit there. See the post in the other thread about the MPIII that I am running. Thanks for playing.

4--no, I dont know exactly how a dyno works. If I knew all that shit, why would I pay someone else to do it for me? I understand the basic concept that the dyno measures horsepower. I dont know precisely how it does it, nor do I give a shit. I didnt pay someone to give me technical education on what his machine does....I paid him to tell me what the engine's doing. I am not the kind of guy that wants to know everything about anything I pay someone else to do--if I am paying them, thats what I want--for them to do it. Thats all.