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BATMAN 03-15-2006, 03:00 PM A newly discovered, perfectly preserved fossil of a 150 million-year-old dinosaur found in southern Germany may force scientists to rethink how and when feathers evolved.
The nearly complete remains of the chicken-size dinosaur named Juravenator, which is described in the journal Nature on Wednesday, were preserved in limestone. But unlike other members of the group of two-legged meat-eating predators known as coelurosaurs, it had no feathers.
"It is an absolutely new dinosaur that was not known before," said Ursula Gohlich, a paleontologist at the University of Munich in Germany.
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Remains of small dinosaurs from the Late Jurassic period are rare finds. The new fossil is nearly complete, apart from a missing part of its long tail, and shows soft tissue and an imprint of the skin but no feathers.
"Scientists had thought that all representatives of the group coelurosaurs should have feathers," Gohlich told Reuters.
"Now we have a little dinosaur that belongs to coelurosaurs that does not show feathers. This is a problem."
Complex evolution
Feathers were thought to have evolved very early within coelurosaurs. All members of the group were thought to be feathered.
But Gohlich and Luis Chiappe, of the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County in California, believe the evolution of feathers may be more complex than previously thought.
Feathers may have evolved early but then were replaced by scales in some creatures because they were not needed. "Another possibility perhaps is that some representatives of coelurosaurs were not entirely covered with feathers, only certain areas," said Gohlich.
The newly discovered Juravenator was very young so may not have lived long enough to develop feathers. But Gohlich said that despite its age, she would have expected it to have had feathers.
"We think that feathers evolved. We have several fossils that support this theory. But our fossil asks some questions," she added.
The oldest known bird, Archaeopteryx, was also found in southern Germany. It too lived about 150 million years ago and had feathers but it is uncertain whether they were used to fly or to keep warm.
Xing Xu, of the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing, said whatever the explanation, the discovery of Juravenator has enriched knowledge of early feather evolution. It could also indicate where future research could be concentrated.
"Juravenator may complicate the picture, but it makes it more complete and realistic," he said in a commentary in the journal.
Carbine 556 03-15-2006, 03:19 PM why dont we ask the 1000 year old people, im sure they know the truth, since it sure as hell wasnt 150 million years ago :rolleyes:
fcdrifter13 03-15-2006, 03:42 PM Remember Dinosaurs are only 5000 years old. And I was there end. I killed the dinosaurs, in a great battle between Chuck Norris
Say No To Pistons 03-15-2006, 04:10 PM i smell yzf and 93vrtouring with bible thumping.
Manntis 03-15-2006, 09:37 PM Given that feathers don't fossilize as easily as bone, I remember when paleontologists were surprised to find feather impressions preserved; now they're surprised when they don't.
Spoiled primadonna paleos...
Cosby 03-15-2006, 10:19 PM Maybe its just a lizard...
Manntis 03-18-2006, 02:06 AM yes, interesting how they're open-minded enough to throw out what is disproven and continue based on fact, rather than doing semantic backflips or historical distortion to claim they base their beliefs on 'infallible' writings...
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Shouldn't you be at church sacrificing goats or something?
jimlab 03-19-2006, 12:42 PM Before or after rushing to the internet to see what people have said about you while you were gone?
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MiniMikeFoRealRealz 03-19-2006, 02:50 PM does anyone like YZF? i'm just curious.
jimlab 03-19-2006, 03:08 PM more like one paycheckGross pay for an entire month? Sure, I'll buy that.
jimlab 03-19-2006, 03:09 PM does anyone like YZF? i'm just curious.No, not really. IHI is the only possible exception, and he's touched in the head also.
Carbine 556 03-19-2006, 03:17 PM i think tufoball might be on his side, and occassionly amishboy, but he hasnt posted much lately
wonner 03-19-2006, 03:21 PM 93VRTouring=YZF Jr.
jimlab 03-19-2006, 03:47 PM i think tufoball might be on his side, and occassionly amishboy, but he hasnt posted much latelyAmishboy doesn't even know which side of his keyboard should be facing up, so he doesn't count. :)
MiniMikeFoRealRealz 03-19-2006, 03:49 PM goddamn pennsylvania dutch.
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