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nathantheman
09-28-2008, 10:48 PM
1: im a little drunk

2: k so i dont like my friends. im using the ambiguity of the forums to let off some steam. they re in my living room riht now enjoying themselves but im here pouting. for no reason. i just feel like they're all douche bags. i really am just insecure and a fucking loser, but i hate how shallow i feel like they are. im a short guy, and they say short guys have problems feeling like they fit in. fuck that is true. ive always been on the outside, and i'm only happy alone. but i hate it. idont want to be this guy. im so insecure and just a miserabl;e wreck sometimes. fuck. i hope somebody can tell me this will end or that i wont grow up to be my dad.

3: i have a best friend, and when ever he is around, girls dont even notice me. its a fucking joke. the rest of the time im fine. its like i need to stop making friends with cool people. fuck i feel worthless

4:k this is emo. im 24 for fucks sake. i should be over all this

DarkAngelKamui
09-28-2008, 11:16 PM
Responses

1: That's part of your whole problem right there

2: Sounds like you don't know what the meaning of "friend" really is.

"True happiness consists not in the multitude of friends, but in their worth and choice."
- Samuel Johnston

If they were any friends of real worth, I doubt you'd be calling them douchebags in a serious manner.

3: Read above, have more confidence in yourself and let your personality attract people's attention. Unless you have the appeal of a wooden plank, I'm sure you could make yourself some new acquaintances. Just stop being so nervous and reserved and try coming out of yourself and just TALK to a girl. Don't talk in the interest of attracting, you're not ready for that yet. Just get out there and TALK to folks. Once your comfortable holding your own as a friendly acquaintance, then you can work on your girl game.

4: I'm 24 as well and still have bouts about all this. I'm an extrovert to the core, and really don't care much for a LOT of my former friends due to the people they've become. Only difference between you and I is I've separated myself from those deemed burdensome on my life.

Have the courage to step away from any situation that bothers you, and always strive to become better as the person YOU are rather then the person OTHERS want you to be.

nathantheman
09-28-2008, 11:22 PM
wow. thank you

1revnrex
09-28-2008, 11:52 PM
Touching moment on TFL.

RyanFlemington
09-29-2008, 12:56 AM
I think I may have just cried a little
edit: wait, did somebody actually just get help on tfl? I mean, real, legitimate help? wtf

DarkAngelKamui
09-29-2008, 06:28 AM
I meant to say Introvert when I typed that out, but I think he got the jist of what I was trying to say. :D

Tofuball
09-29-2008, 07:56 AM
Take this to smacktalk where it belon. . . . wait, what?

Vert8813B
09-29-2008, 08:15 AM
I generally hate all my 'friends' too. I'm accepting applications for more intelligent friends.

czarofzar
09-29-2008, 08:18 AM
i just called in sick from work

Pele
09-29-2008, 08:37 AM
I had this kinda problem a few years ago.

When you're sitting in a jail cell, you know who your friends are and aren't...

Ditch the douchebags, find new friends.

wotnartd
09-29-2008, 08:48 AM
get drunk and walk home. true friends will follow.
/incrdibl drunk

Pele
09-29-2008, 11:17 AM
get drunk and walk home. true friends will follow.
/incrdibl drunk

Shit friends will call the cops on you. :mad:

Zero
09-29-2008, 01:19 PM
1: im a little drunk
Alcohol is a depressant.

2: k so i dont like my friends. im using the ambiguity of the forums to let off some steam. they re in my living room riht now enjoying themselves but im here pouting. for no reason. i just feel like they're all douche bags. i really am just insecure and a fucking loser, but i hate how shallow i feel like they are. im a short guy, and they say short guys have problems feeling like they fit in. fuck that is true. ive always been on the outside, and i'm only happy alone. but i hate it. idont want to be this guy. im so insecure and just a miserabl;e wreck sometimes. fuck. i hope somebody can tell me this will end or that i wont grow up to be my dad.
Most people that you think are your "friends" are actually people whose relationship with you benefits them. Although the benefits may be mutual, my personal integrity overpowers my need for anything from them and just lets them go on their way. You haven't found yourself. Free yourself from anything that chains you, and learn about yourself. Do not accept other peoples terms of judging as your own.

3: i have a best friend, and when ever he is around, girls dont even notice me. its a fucking joke. the rest of the time im fine. its like i need to stop making friends with cool people. fuck i feel worthless
As long as attention from girls is how you judge yourself, none of them are going to be interested.

4:k this is emo. im 24 for fucks sake. i should be over all this

I was really guessing 16...



You do not have to be a social butterfly, simply because society tells you that's what's right. Listen to your heart, not your head. Don't try to apply logic to what you feel, just do what you feel, otherwise you'll never be happy. That is more logical than logic to me...

1revnrex
09-29-2008, 01:23 PM
Dont take this the wrong way Zero but you have matured.

DarkAngelKamui
09-29-2008, 01:24 PM
Alcohol is a depressant.


Most people that you think are your "friends" are actually people whose relationship with you benefits them. Although the benefits may be mutual, my personal integrity overpowers my need for anything from them and just lets them go on their way. You haven't found yourself. Free yourself from anything that chains you, and learn about yourself. Do not accept other peoples terms of judging as your own.


As long as attention from girls is how you judge yourself, none of them are going to be interested.



I was really guessing 16...



You do not have to be a social butterfly, simply because society tells you that's what's right. Listen to your heart, not your head. Don't try to apply logic to what you feel, just do what you feel, otherwise you'll never be happy. That is more logical than logic to me...

I approve of this message (all except the 16 yo jab) :bigthumb:

Herschel
09-29-2008, 01:31 PM
Alcohol is a depressant.


Most people that you think are your "friends" are actually people whose relationship with you benefits them. Although the benefits may be mutual, my personal integrity overpowers my need for anything from them and just lets them go on their way. You haven't found yourself. Free yourself from anything that chains you, and learn about yourself. Do not accept other peoples terms of judging as your own.


As long as attention from girls is how you judge yourself, none of them are going to be interested.



I was really guessing 16...



You do not have to be a social butterfly, simply because society tells you that's what's right. Listen to your heart, not your head. Don't try to apply logic to what you feel, just do what you feel, otherwise you'll never be happy. That is more logical than logic to me...

Who are you and what have you done with Zero?

DarkAngelKamui
09-29-2008, 01:45 PM
lol, I don't find his post all that surprising. He was pretty helpful when I went into my whole rant about what I wanted to do with my life and all that. (see
http://www.theforumlounge.com/purpose-t11781.html )

I happen to like this new Zero. Still got a stick up his ass, but he's def more likable and easy to relate to. lol

Zero
09-29-2008, 03:06 PM
We have Socrates, Plato, Gandhi, Jesus, and Tyler Durden to thank for the new zero... :D

I don't think I have a stick up my ass... just certainly not a pushover. :)

mazdaspeedrex
09-29-2008, 03:23 PM
Hey we don't talk about that. Remember the first rule.

DarkAngelKamui
09-29-2008, 03:26 PM
I don't think I have a stick up my ass... just certainly not a pushover. :)

http://cridiron.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/bill-orly.jpg

I'm more of a popsicle... hard and cold through and through with a stick up my ass, haha

Zero
09-29-2008, 03:35 PM
Maybe I should reply with "quit being a bitch" next time? :)

Herschel
09-29-2008, 03:37 PM
Maybe I should reply with "quit being a bitch" next time? :)

You did it wrong....it should be....

QUIT BEING A BITCH

Zero
09-29-2008, 03:38 PM
I fell off. :(

Herschel
09-29-2008, 03:39 PM
LOL! It's ok, we're here for you....

nathantheman
09-29-2008, 03:39 PM
i think i had a bit of an epiphany today. i couldn't sleep last night, and the more i thought about it the more i realized im the go to guy, im the guy with all the answers, im the one everyone turns to when they need help. and im there for them, humble and withholding judgement. they value me, but they use me because im so sincere and earnest. and also im easy. they can get what they want without a guilt trip or reconciliation. its this way with my brothers my friends, my co-workers. it always has been. what i realized is it has nothing to do with them. its how i train them. im too easy. im very confident in and of myself but im not socially confident. people use my talents for themselves, but in social context they will play me down to make it seem as if my ideas were their own all along. its the man vs. the bullshitter. probly the only reason ive developed a real issure is because of my small stature it difficult to be taken seriously in social situations. regardless of what i have to offer. instead of being the strong silent type which is who i feel i am, im observed as the small angry type.

so i should either:

1: become hermit

2: completely disregard my spirituality and morals and become full of shit like my piers

3: or become confrontational and create disputes as soon as things dont go my way.

nathantheman
09-29-2008, 03:41 PM
yeah, but how does one do that? "quit being a bitch?" if its built into my personality, can i ever really change that?



p.s. see this is what im talking about, my natural response to an insult is acceptance and accountability. you know what fuckers. my true character > your true character

Herschel
09-29-2008, 03:43 PM
yeah, but how does one do that? "quit being a bitch?" if its built into my personality, can i ever really change that?

Yes. Some people won't like it, but who gives a fuck? Stand up for yourself because no one else will......

Zero
09-29-2008, 03:45 PM
yeah, but how does one do that? "quit being a bitch?" if its built into my personality, can i ever really change that?

You're asking the wrong questions, because you're looking at this wrong in my opinion.

The most important question that you can ever ask is "WHY?"

-Why do you feel like you're a bitch?
-Why does your individuality that doesn't fit societys standards make you consider yourself a bitch?
-Why should you change?
-Why change for anyone?
-Why do you feel the need to change?

^have fun with that.

Zero
09-29-2008, 03:53 PM
Yes. Some people won't like it, but who gives a fuck? Stand up for yourself because no one else will......

Yup. You've gotta "proclaim your freedom". Don't let people stick their finger in your face and tell you what's wrong with you because you aren't how they want you to be. Fuck that, and fuck the ignorance that causes that. The biggest "bitches" I see are people that are afraid to be who they are, because of what others will think. If people can't accept you for who you are, 1: they're ignorant, 2: they don't care about you--Love has no conditions.


As cliche as it is, listen to your heart. When you don't listen to your heart, you're going to miserable.



I'll type more later...

1revnrex
09-29-2008, 03:54 PM
Go kill a hooker, it always helps for me.

nathantheman
09-29-2008, 03:58 PM
Go kill a hooker, it always helps for me.


already killed all the hookers in canada......

Herschel
09-29-2008, 04:00 PM
You killed Ark??!?!?!?? I kinda liked him.....

nathantheman
09-29-2008, 04:00 PM
You're asking the wrong questions, because you're looking at this wrong in my opinion.

The most important question that you can ever ask is "WHY?"

-Why do you feel like you're a bitch?
-Why does your individuality that doesn't fit societys standards make you consider yourself a bitch?
-Why should you change?
-Why change for anyone?
-Why do you feel the need to change?

^have fun with that.


what really chaps my ass is being a wall flower. im not that guy

Herschel
09-29-2008, 04:04 PM
what really chaps my ass is being a wall flower. im not that guy

Then don't act like that guy....

1revnrex
09-29-2008, 04:09 PM
You need to look inside you and findout what makes you feel this way and address it. If its multiple things, work at it one problem at a time. Life can be overwhelming and sometimes you think, "What the fuck am I doing wrong?". Just tighten up man, change if you want to and for yourself only. If your friends suck then fuck'em, I hang out with maybe 2 or 3 of my friends from high school and used to have a shitload of "friends" back than.


As far as the way people perceive you, thats another story. Chicks can smell a confident guy a mile away and the same goes for the guy thats not confident around them. Try different approaches with them, what works for some guys wont work for you.

Ark2
09-29-2008, 06:27 PM
already killed all the hookers in canada......

are you related to that pig farmer?

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