everything I read in the bible shows God to be hatefilled, with His every action being based in hate .

the ONLY act of Love ever shown me in the bible is gods allowing satan to vent some of HIS hate on helpless humanity as part of gods hatefilled plan against humanity.

is there a way for god to love humanity that DOESN'T involve bloody human sacrifice ?

or is His Holy Hate so strong that only blood can wash it away ?

"The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away"

Not an actual word-for-word quote found in the bible, but it explains your question all too well.

correct

the penalty for sin is death
why havent all of us died yet?

or is His righteousness so perfect that only the blood of a perfect sacrifice cover sin?

correct

the penalty for sin is death

or is His Holy Hate so strong that only blood can wash it away ?

you nowhere contradicted me, your restatement {missing "can" ? }merely attempts to reassign the BLAME for gods Holy Hate so strong that only blood can wash it away.

blood does NOTHING for the sin, what it does change is gods ATTITUDE about the sin, that attitude being hate.

the blood changes gods attitude from hate to forgiveness.
the sin is still there, it is just now you are ALLOWED to have that sin, it is now an OK sin, a FORGIVEN sin.

the blood does NOT reach into the past and make the sin 'didn't happen', it transforms the sin into a good sin, a sin that god has no problem with.

hence the talk about the sin going away, if god is ok with it it can't be a sin to do it.

like murdering children on gods direct orders.

a great way to test whether a tribe has truely accepted gods gift of forgiveness.


:bowdown: :screwyou:

we all will die

and some will remain in their sins after death (i.e. their sin will not be covered)

I understand that. We will die. What does sin have to do with death? That is the most absurd story ever invented from sandtrash cavemen. It takes a real idiot to rationalize thier explaination.

We die like all living things. with or without the so called sin

hatred of sin is a virtue

if God did not hate sin, He would not be righteous, and would not be God

more worthless claptrap

'hatred is a virtue... if God did not hate, He would not be righteous, and would not be God'

see the feeble attempt to draw a graph, with forgiven as neutral, zero.

Hate................forgiven................Love

the bible runs the gamut from Hate most bitter to tolerent forgiveness, where is the Love ?

any person can do a sin that will drive god nutso with righteous fury, NO person can do ANYTHING THAT WILL MAKE GOD LOVE HIM AS MUCH AS GOD WILL HATE HIM for doing a sin.

there is no balance.


'hatred is a virtue'

what are you supposed to Hate ? who cares ? whatever god says for you to hate.

fags for instance, their Love is sin, and so must be virtuously Hated.

"Love must be Hated"


And the LORD passed before him and proclaimed, “The LORD, the LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abounding in goodness and truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children’s children to the third and the fourth generation.”

see, from Hate to "forgiving" without EVER straying beyond into Love territory. and then back to Hate so bitter that it is imposed on innocent children for generations.


when it talks about gods Hate there are bountiful examples, where are an example of gods love, that DOESN'T involve bloody human sacrifice, ??

that sacrifice is just to get forgiveness, not love.

'hatred is a virtue... if God did not hate, He would not be righteous, and would not be God'

see the feeble attempt to draw a graph, with forgiven as neutral, zero.

Hate................forgiven................Love

the bible runs the gamut from Hate most bitter to tolerent forgiveness, where is the Love ?

any person can do a sin that will drive god nutso with righteous fury, NO person can do ANYTHING THAT WILL MAKE GOD LOVE HIM AS MUCH AS GOD WILL HATE HIM for doing a sin.

there is no balance.


'hatred is a virtue'

what are you supposed to Hate ? who cares ? whatever god says for you to hate.

fags for instance, their Love is sin, and so must be virtuously Hated.

"Love must be Hated"


And the LORD passed before him and proclaimed, “The LORD, the LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abounding in goodness and truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children’s children to the third and the fourth generation.”

see, from Hate to "forgiving" without EVER straying beyond into Love territory. and then back to Hate so bitter that it is imposed on innocent children for generations.


when it talks about gods Hate there are bountiful examples, where are an example of gods love, that DOESN'T involve bloody human sacrifice, ??

that sacrifice is just to get forgiveness, not love.

daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn! There is no love since god cant produce it himself.
Hey yzf, ask your xtain g/f if she will instead remove 'love and cherish' to really admit to 'forgive and keep you around to move furniture'.

Good stuff Honegod.

plucking from another thread, and anticipating a "god so loved the world..."

jesus sacrifice does NOT cover the whole world, it only applies to those god chooses, the majority are excluded with no choice in the matter.

so the 'world' is reduced from the WHOLE world to just a tiny portion of it getting forgiveness.

or flooded.

forgiveness and love go together, actually

true forgiveness is the greatest test of unconditional love there is

forgiveness and hate go together, without hate there can be no such thing as forgiveness.

love stands independant of both hate and its child forgiveness.

unconditional love abolishes hate AND forgiveness because forgiveness is a part of hate, not love, and has no place in perfect love just as hate has no place in perfect unconditional love.

forgiveness does NOT abolish hate, it merely sets the hate ASIDE.

the majority are excluded because they love darkness, and God gives them up
the majority are excluded because they love, and God gives them up to his hate.