So a friend of a friend got a knife held to her neck and raped a couple weeks ago. The guy is out on bail and is apparently well known and liked around theses parts. My friend is going to court in a few months as a witness and knowing the way things work around here I gave a passing comment to watch her back. Moments after I hang up I get this messese (edited the name, but otherwise exact copy)

"Hey d0nt worry about anything bad happening to me or ***** 4 that matter. God is always watching and wil protect us always."

So why is it that even after shit hits the fan big time do people think they have some angel on their back? Shouldn't past events kinda tip people off?

perhaps it is all about perception....you see, she could have been killed that day, but she survived. That is a perception different from yours. There is always something salvageable from such events, even if it takes a long time to make itself known. I was diagnosed with cancer, which forced me out of my work as a firefighter, which I loved. Couldnt imagine myself doing anything else back then. But because of it, I met my wife, I now have children, a whole new career, etc etc etc. It is all about perception. At the time, I had no idea any of these things were going to happen.

perhaps it is all about perception....you see, she could have been killed that day, but she survived. That is a perception different from yours. There is always something salvageable from such events, even if it takes a long time to make itself known. I was diagnosed with cancer, which forced me out of my work as a firefighter, which I loved. Couldnt imagine myself doing anything else back then. But because of it, I met my wife, I now have children, a whole new career, etc etc etc. It is all about perception. At the time, I had no idea any of these things were going to happen.

thats an awesome attitude man. kudos to you.

Never thought of it that way skydivr7673, truley glass half full stuff. But it still amazes me that someone with such crappy luck could leave their protection 100% in the hands of a god.

Numbers 31

15And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?

16Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.

17Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. :bigthumb:

perhaps it is all about perception....you see, she could have been killed that day, but she survived. That is a perception different from yours. There is always something salvageable from such events, even if it takes a long time to make itself known. I was diagnosed with cancer, which forced me out of my work as a firefighter, which I loved. Couldn't imagine myself doing anything else back then. But because of it, I met my wife, I now have children, a whole new career, etc etc etc. It is all about perception. At the time, I had no idea any of these things were going to happen.

+1

Never thought of it that way skydivr7673, truley glass half full stuff. But it still amazes me that someone with such crappy luck could leave their protection 100% in the hands of a god.

when things get that bad, where else are you gonna leave it though? Think about it--when things get that bad, what other option is there? If we had that control over our lives, things never would have gotten that bad for us. sooner or later you need to realize that we are not the ones calling all the shots.

Kudos to that girl, it takes a lot of guts to be that certain in your faith after such an event happens to you. On a lighter note, it is always true that there is always someone who has it worse than you do.....for example, picture this:

You are a siamese twin.
Your twin is gay.
You are not.
The two of you share the same butt, and....

He's got a hot date tonight....

It could always be worse....

lol

1 in 6 american women have reported either being raped or an attempted rape. How many times are rapists, repeat rapists? I say, there should be defined degrees of rape. If your semen is found in the woman as scientific evidence and you're found guilty of rape... say goodbye to your penis/sac.

It will stop repeat rapists, and people WILL think twice about doing it if the penalties are that serious.

1 in 6 american women have reported either being raped or an attempted rape. How many times are rapists, repeat rapists? I say, there should be defined degrees of rape. If your semen is found in the woman as scientific evidence and you're found guilty of rape... say goodbye to your penis/sac.

It will stop repeat rapists, and people WILL think twice about doing it if the penalties are that serious.


not entirely true--for example, the death penalty does not deter murderers. The severity of the punishment means nothing to someone that doesnt use rational thought as a basis for committing the crime. Rape is not a "rational" act. because of that, what you see as a given thought will not be as "given" to someone that is irrational enough to rape someone. They dont think about the punishment when they do this. A rape is all about power and control.

from a hopelessly perverse mind comes a never ending stream of perverse thoughts, with a few "nice stories" to dupe naive people

I dont attempt to "dupe" anyone, marky--being dishonest is your specialty, not mine. To you it is a "nice story to dupe"....but to me, it is simply what I have experienced. Have a nice day, oh dishonest one.

from a hopelessly perverse mind comes a never ending stream of perverse thoughts, with a few "nice stories" to dupe naive people


STFU Marky-mark, he was making a point threw humor...which you don't have any sense of.

Seems you have something personal about Sky...which makes you put your ego above the problems of this girl....

And your comment above about rape....you are so f'n ignorant its unbelievable. Shut your claptrap Mark.

oft-parroted comment which I believe is largely bunk

I am going to take a page from your playbook, marky--

What are YOUR educational credentials in regards to criminal psychology? What are YOUR credentials with regards to criminal justice??

Shut the hell up already with your ridiculous beliefs.....you clearly dont have a clue. What IS rape about then?? Sex? Go ahead, "educate" us.....

you're also on the road to hell

What ever you say ther 1/2 man.

Basically a comment like that means you are telling me to go to hell...
Such a model Christian you are Marky....is this how you act in church, or do you put up a false front their too? Thats what I thought.

you're also on the road to hell

I see....so, you cant answer, because you have no answer....so you resort back to this crap. Marky, you are as predictable as a porcupine in a condom factory. You need a new act--you wore this one out four years ago.

What ever you say ther 1/2 man.

Basically a comment like that means you are telling me to go to hell...
Such a model Christian you are Marky....is this how you act in church, or do you put up a false front their too? Thats what I thought.

oh, he definitely puts up a front there. No one he goes to church with has any idea of the anger and ego problems this cosmic turd has. I remember when the men's study group got word of how he REALLY is....and they were all shocked because they never had any idea that he was like this. In the end, they kicked him out because he got caught lying to their faces about his actions. he tried to claim that the posts came from someone else, and that he didnt do it. He even threatened to sue me for slander, right in the thread. But as usual he screwed up--the screen name he was using to act innocent, he had earlier used to post some of the same clap trap nonsense that he lied about, so they caught him. how pathetic and sad can someone be when they lie like that to a church group? More than that, how much faith does marky REALLY have in God, when he goes to that group for the purpose of worshipping God and cant even tell the truth there?!?

You are a fraud, marky.

go away, flies

it smells in here when you post

whatever you smell, thats just your upper lip, you know, from that "hot date" you had last night??

:eek:

I know you will, jon

justice will prevail

so, where is the answer to my question? You made a claim that I was wrong--what is your answer? Or is this insulting and changing my quotes all you have to go with, as it usually is??

What is your answer??

I know you will, jon

justice will prevail


if justice would have prevailed in your case, your daddy would have blown you down the drain in the shower....

so, where is the answer to my question?

well????

and still, no answer, rather you post completely unrelated stuff? You made the statement, so back it up!

What is your answer? What is the most common reason rape occurs, marky? you opened this can of worms, now deal with it.

shepherds who feed only themselves.

actually, that describes you, marky....the guy that brags constantly about making $75K a year, new house, FD, crotch rocket, daily driver Corolla....and let's not forget the 4x4 truck that you mentioned, only to lie about it later and claim wrongly that I "told you" that I looked your info up to find out about it....you are one pathetic being. Your only purpose here for talking about anything is to glorify yourself, and you only use God for the purpose of exalting yourself--you brag about being "chosen" so you can pump up your ego that much more.

Me thinks, and the bible agrees, that you are not goint to find what you think you are, come judgment, marky....God makes it crystal clear that frauds like you who are fake in His name are not welcomed.

http://everyoneneedstherapy.blogspot.com/2006/09/why-men-rape.html

Stranger rapes, conversely, have been found to be characteristic of serious psychopathology—extreme anger, a need for power and control, and sadism.
They have feelings emptiness, worthlessness, insecurity, loneliness, depression, suicidal and homicidal ideation, and desperation.

And no empathy, obviously. They have few friends, and most came from disengaged families.

hmmm.....marky, are you a rapist?? You seem to fit the characteristics....

extreme anger, a need for power and control, and sadism.

Extreme anger....yep, thats you....a need for power?? Fits you to a T....

emptiness, worthlessness, insecurity

Empty? Worthless? Insecure? MARKY!!! All fit you perfectly....

depression

That's GOTTA be you....anyone with a life as pathetic and fake as yours HAS to be depressed....

suicidal and homicidal ideation

Well, maybe not suicidal, but you DO have a sick fascination with death and suffering of others.

desperation.

Increasingly, too....your posts as of late prove this.

And no empathy, obviously

Obviously.

They have few friends

Well, that fits too....after all, if you have to be fake to everyone in your "real" life just to fit in somewhere, then you truly dont have any real friends, because no one actually knows who you really are.

Should we warn the authorities about you?? You fit the known profile for a serious monster....:eek:

funny, marky....you easily find time to answer in a bunch of other threads, but you wont come back in this one and tell us the answer to the question....I wonder why that is. COULDNT be because you got owned and dont have shit to say, could it?

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/skydivr7673/roomcare.jpg

by the way, where's your answer?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y254/rxtion/thread_direction.gif

not entirely true--for example, the death penalty does not deter murderers. The severity of the punishment means nothing to someone that doesnt use rational thought as a basis for committing the crime. Rape is not a "rational" act. because of that, what you see as a given thought will not be as "given" to someone that is irrational enough to rape someone. They dont think about the punishment when they do this. A rape is all about power and control.

A psuedo-intellectual idea that has zero evidence, and realistically, zero thought put into it.

Exhibit A: If the maximum penalty for 1st degree murder was 1 week in jail, you would've killed mark strong by now, and the murder rate would skyrocket.

Exhibit B: If speeding tickets didn't cost money, time in court, and insurance rates to rise would you run the suggested speed limits all of the time? No, pretty much everyone is constantly flirting with getting a ticket, running over the speed limit, but pushing what they think is "safe" not to get pulled over.

Exhibit C: California's 3 strikes and you're out for felony charges... I've seen numerous stories of people watching down to the way they fart to make sure they don't get in anymore trouble.

Now, there's the evidence that people DO consider punishment when choosing their actions. This is a generalization, but, laws are based on generalizations of society, not the mentally ill like your "rational" theory. The whole "power" thing is an idea a want-to-be-psychologist created, it sounded controversial to a few college students somewhere along the line, got posted on the internet, and now i've been forced to read it one too many times. Physical domination of fighting is a better display of power rather than raping. It is about sex or else... sex wouldn't be involved. Do people steal cars because they can get money out of it, or do they steal cars because it's a "sneaky" issue? Let's let the "proven rape" dick-chopping off begin.

A psuedo-intellectual idea that has zero evidence, and realistically, zero thought put into it.Since you say he has none, what's your evidence for that statement besides personal opinion?

Several sources break rapists into the following or similar categories:

POWER REASSURANCE (30%) - precipitating factor is loneliness and lack of self-esteem on 7-15 day cycle; neighborhood nonviolent attacks; keeps souvenirs, thinks victim liked it

POWER ASSERTIVE (30%) - precipitating factor is desire to dominate an impersonal sex partner on 20-25 day cycle; cruises singles bars, acts macho; may repeat on same victim

ANGER RETALIATION (24%)- precipitating factor is perceived injustice at hands of women on 6-12 month cycle; sees self as athletic and masculine, action-oriented; uses blitz attack

SADISTIC (16%)- precipitating factor is need to express fantasy; compulsive in personal appearance; carries rape kit; learns better ways to stalk, and will eventually kill

It is about sex or else... sex wouldn't be involved.Sorry, but I doubt you could make a more simplistic and uninformed statement about the motivation for rape.

Do people steal cars because they can get money out of it, or do they steal cars because it's a "sneaky" issue?Does a shoplifter steal simply because they don't have the money to pay, or is it for the thrill of taking something that doesn't belong to you without paying? Ask Winona Ryder and other wealthy shoplifters the answer to that one.

I never bought the "rape is about power" stuff, either

the vast majority of rapists are simply violent perverts who can't control themselves, I throw them in the same lot with homosexuals, and the O.T. punishment for both is the same: death

no, this is where you are wrong again...and all the research in the world proves it. How many rapists are married men, for example?? Men that dont need to force someone to get sex, yet they do it anyways....why?? Because it is NOT ABOUT THE SEX you moron. It is about power and control. even research that has taken the words of sex offenders shows that this is about control for them.

Date rape? Thats just someone being a pervert? In many cases, the offender is someone who can get girls--it is about taking away someone's ability to say no to you. Unfortunately in this world, there are people who would willingly engage in any type of sex act you could imagone and many others we probably couldnt imagine....if this was just about being a pervert, why would they need to force their victims to comply?? There is probably a place that the pervert could go to fulfil any kind of sick fantasy WITHOUT having to force themselves on someone for real.....HMMMM.....

few....you might be one of them, though, as you claim to be married

why dont you try actually learning something instead of speaking out your ass all the time???

http://www.paralumun.com/issuesrapestats.htm

Approximately 28% of victims are raped by husbands or boyfriends, 35% by acquaintances, and 5% by other relatives. (Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994)

More than a quarter of all rapes are committed by the victim's SPOUSE OR BOYFRIEND....and thats just the cases where the victim was married to the attacker or dating him....seems to me that your "expert assessment" of "few" is nowhere near reality. I would suspect that the BJS knows more about this than a washed-up holy roller who is so full of himself he would eat his own shit for dinner....

I never bought the "rape is about power" stuff, eitherI never bought into the assumption that you had a functioning brain...

the vast majority of rapists are simply violent perverts who can't control themselvesSo now you're an armchair Psychologist too?!? :roll:

is that supposed to back up your point? it doesn't



ooooo

a whopping 25%, some of which are probably not even rape


clearly you dont know how to read, dipshit...those are only the reported cases where the victim was the spouse or girlfriend of the attacker. Do you think that a married rapist would only attack his wife now? Is it that far-fetched that a married man who is a rapist might attack someone else other than his wife you jackass?

And again, this is only reported incidents too--many studies now show that as many as 84% of all rapes go unreported.

Stop talking out your ass, you fucking moron....you dont have an education on this topic, yet you think you know it all.

EDIT--yeah, youre right...an orgainzation whose sole purpose is to track and collect data on crimes in this country has NO CLUE about such information....just because you, the resident dillywhacker, says so....:asshole:

I'm a complete asshat who has no clue, as usual

I couldnt agree more:asshole:

what diversion, I already replied to that....dont blame me because you cant read at 39...

don't blame me if I cant read the simple english in your posts

hmmmm.....

copying me of courseTrust me, douche bag, no one wants to copy you...

owning me of course

yes....yes I am....

At least it's not pink...

Are you colorblind too?

What color is this car Mark?

http://home.gci.net/~jimlab/images/Misc/P7160087.jpg

Like I said, get your eyes checked.

It's twice as green as any car you've ever owned, and it was just my daily driver. Get a real job, Mark.

Yep. And?

Once again Mark, I never said I was. Just a hell of a lot richer than you are.

Then again, you're so goddamned dumb you think that annual salary is the only measure of wealth. :bigthumb:

then you sold it and got a Lumina

:roll:

good one, corolla boy....:asshole:

How much are the payments?

For 84 months?

$500?

$600?

a little higher

don't want to boast here :)

bullshit...nothings ever stopped you before....not even the knowledge that doing so is wrong in God's eyes....

"If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Nothing in there about acting like a complete jackass for 4 years running...

accusations from antagonists (from years ago)

years ago??

So, you havent recently boasted yet again about owning a car? Or about how much you bench?? It all was done years ago and never done since??

Keep trippin on yer dick there, dumbass.....

Hours ago...

No, make that minutes ago...

a little higher$700.

don't want to boast here :)Too late for that. You can't tell us what you bought because we can easily find the approximate value, subtract the amount of your claimed payments, and calculate what you put down... after insinuating that it was a big chunk of cash... which is bragging...

off-topic psycho jonnie

the "mission"

the mission???

Simple--I confront error....

:bigthumb:

And the biggest error at any point in time around here is you.

hell awaits jonnie

it sure does...dont forget to bring yourself some marshmallows--I hear that the prices down there are, well, hell!!

your future is pure black

well, thanks to 95whitepep, we all just saw YOUR future, you dishonest lil bitch....

http://www.theforumlounge.com/showpost.php?p=127467&postcount=182

Hope you didnt dribble any on the keyboard, you lying fuckwad.....:eek:

PORN SURFER!!!

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

we have the proof you're a porn surfer, jimmy.No, you have proof that I know how to effectively use Google search to find something to embarrass you with, but do you reallly think I give a shit if you think I'm a porn surfer? After all, it's not against my religion, asshole.

:roll:

you can doctor an img to read anything

incredibly lame, typical of superhack

we have the proof you're a porn surfer, jimmy...modifying an img file on the internet is proof of nothing

and we have the proof that you are one as well, you fucking sad ass hypocrite....


http://www.theforumlounge.com/showpost.php?p=76509&postcount=11

but then again, it doesnt matter that you choose to demean a woman's body by using slang terms that God never approved of, because, as you put it, youre "not lusting"....you simply check out "racks" all the time, and God approves, right??

fuckin liar...

ha

eat it, jonnie

what--thats as witty as you can come up with? You just got your ass handed to you, caught in your own shit yet again, and this is all you got to say??

Well, at least you finally stopped trying to deny that youre a porn surfer....for the moment....retard

??

well, for starters....

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/skydivr7673/dictionary.gif

--as in, my post used clear simple english, so if you cant understand it, go back to your college and demand a refund.

Then, there is the matter of you checking out teh bewbies and lying about it.

Thanks for playing, dribble-dick. And remember kids:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/skydivr7673/churchsign10.jpg

??ha

A Speak & Spell has more computing power than your brain.

ha

Thanks for proving my point...

ha

Once again, thanks for proving my point.

ha

You can't debate the fact that you only have a 1.0KHz processor in your skull...

Slowly being choked off by that growing malignant mass...

yeah