I really am not sure how to take all of this 'Going Green' hype that is out there today. Is it just a fad, like the atkins/no carb diets

I mean a hybrid car or SUV really only gains a few mpg over a normal combustion engine. Yet you now have all the excess crap and recycling of batteries to take into account.

I understand and have done research on the CFL and other energy saving things and what they really do save a home owner. I think people are just too wasteful, with day to day things. Just think of extra water you waste in a day. Turn off your PC when not using it. Unplug those unused chargers and appliances.

I agree 100%.

I don't think it's a fad, more a sign of the times. Being less wasteful is being taken up as an "in" thing to do, but it's probably more because people have less money to spend.

Because Earth Day was last week every thing in the news and the media (from what I see of it) was all about 'Going Green'

I look at this crap they are saying now about plastic bottles. Although I work for a soda company, they are one of the problems....producing all of these bottled water products. Just think if we had stuck with glass and the thought of bottle water was never introduced

You'll never catch me "going green" in any way.

I live in the Willamette Valley in Oregon and I learned tonight that 6 of the 25 cities in the country voted "most green" are in this state. Corvallis, home of OSU, has had bio-diesel available for a few years.
We definitley need to be concerned about the landfill issues. Creating "green" and environmentally correct products is imperitive. We are fouling the planet and overfishing the sea's. I am concerned about the future of our children.
The plastic bottles are huge. No individual H2o bottles - what a concept. When I was a kid we each had a "jug" (a recycled big glass juice container) filled with our drink (usually tea or lemonaid) in the fridge. Instead of using a glass every time we wanted a drink, we grabbed our jugged, pulled up the straw, had a few sips and put it back in the fridge. Way less glasses for Mom to clean - all around less waste.
People used to care a lot more and were generally more conciencious - and I am not even that old .....
Most importantly we need a renewable energy source that is not soybeans! We need to be farming hemp - but that may be another forum ....

Well, rtry, I guess you just have to give them the finger and get that truck going.

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I know a lot of people hate the French, but they have made going green much easier here. We have 3 bins in my apartment. Glass, recyclables, and trash. In the recyclables bin, you put everything from cardboard, to metal cans, to milk jugs. They sort it out. It turns out the trash bin is the least likely to filled up, but the glass one is always full.

In my city, we don't have curbside recycling. We have a little center, though, that we go to.

And we have to sort it, also. Glass (which sorts into colors), paper (anything from cardboard to junk mail), newspaper, plastic, and tin. Some people think it's crazy to have to do all that work. It's not. And from what I've heard, it saves us manpower and electricity and the main hub for the county, because it doesn't need so much sorting, and requires less machinery.

We just toss it in and they do it.

Recycling is a waste of time. I throw paper and plastic in the garbage. I especially love to do it on campus, when some tree hugging sandal wearing asshole tries to tell me how I'm destroying the planet.

landfills/solid waste is a MAJOR issue in this country, and in the world, that no one likes to talk about


I don't think it is really.

Watch this video and tell me what you think. I know, it's Penn and Teller and you don't like them, but do me a favour and check it out. It's the third segment of the show so it's only 9 minutes long. If what they are saying is incorrect or just plan wrong, I would be interested in hearing so.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jtex699GyEc

I work on Wind Turbines, which is touted as the best source of Green Energy,,, But I don't work there for that reason,,, I do it for the money!!! There's a LOT of money in green energy, and it isn't going away any time soon!!! But that's Ok by me!!!!

The media waves it's little flag and the people come running!!! And that's the problem with most folks,,, they can't think for themselves. They have been told what to do, and what to think for so long that they just can't do it for themselves anymore. Damn sheep!!!!

give me a (slightly) unbiased link, please, not those assholes

I'm hardly a tree hugger, you know that, but solid waste is a major problem with 6.5 BILLION people on this planet

Like I said, just watch it. You don't even have to keep an open mind while watching it. Maybe I am completely ignorant to the matter and what they are saying is complete bullshit. I'm interested in hearing what you think.

I work on Wind Turbines, which is touted as the best source of Green Energy,,, But I don't work there for that reason,,, I do it for the money!!! There's a LOT of money in green energy, and it isn't going away any time soon!!! But that's Ok by me!!!

I've been thinking about doing the same thing.

I've been thinking about doing the same thing.I highly recommend it, as long as you're not afraid of heights!! The money is outstanding and you can cancel that expensive membership to the gym!!!

Heights are better when you get to jump from them.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jtex699GyEc



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They had a Modern Marvels episode where they had a recycling center in San Diego that was very similar to the Burbank one....I actually thought it was the San Diego footage until they showed the Burbank sign. Anyway, they said it's very profitable business venture....which sucks because they profit off our waste, yet we pay for our waste to get picked up.

I don't think it is really.

Sure it is, I see it every fucking day when the semis roll through town with all the garbage from MN. I think States should charge other states thousands of dollars per pound so we don't get stuck with everyone else's shit.

I work on Wind Turbines, which is touted as the best source of Green Energy,,, But I don't work there for that reason,,, I do it for the money!!! There's a LOT of money in green energy, and it isn't going away any time soon!!! But that's Ok by me!!!!




I saw something that they cannot get enough workers to work on the Turbines. Some schools are preventing companies to give presentations in the classrooms because they were offering jobs before the students even finished school.

Sounds like it would be something good to get into at this point. Although local governments are throwing wrenches into the effort. Passing regulations because it is an eyesore, hurts the birds, etc.... I read recently that they are trying to build a wind field in Lake Michigan or Superior and it is bringing a lot opposistion.

I saw something that they cannot get enough workers to work on the Turbines. Some schools are preventing companies to give presentations in the classrooms because they were offering jobs before the students even finished school.

Sounds like it would be something good to get into at this point. Although local governments are throwing wrenches into the effort. Passing regulations because it is an eyesore, hurts the birds, etc.... I read recently that they are trying to build a wind field in Lake Michigan or Superior and it is bringing a lot opposition.Yes,, while the companies prefer you have either a strong electrical or mechanical background, they are so desperate for workers that are able and willing to climb the towers ~ that's the huge issue,, the heights,, that they will take almost anybody off the street and train them. More than 1,000 turbines will go up in my area in the next 3 years,, figure 7 turbines per technician,,, that's over 140 techs just in my area!!!

People oppose them because they don't understand them. I have heard everything from they cause cancer, to miscarriages, to animal migration patterns being altered, to they are noisier than a jumbo jet. All of which are totally false!!

Sounds like it would be something good to get into at this point. Although local governments are throwing wrenches into the effort. Passing regulations because it is an eyesore, hurts the birds, etc.... I read recently that they are trying to build a wind field in Lake Michigan or Superior and it is bringing a lot opposistion.

You mean we'd be getting something out of Lake Michigan aside from mercury poisoning?

turbines cause cancer? LOL

Leave it up to stupid soccer momsheep to make shit up and believe it.

The strong magnitic influxes that the turbine spins could fuck up something inside ya.

Yeah.... no.