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BATMAN 03-07-2007, 08:55 PM Humans caught pubic lice, aka "the crabs," from gorillas roughly three million years ago, scientists now report.
Rather than close encounters of the intimate kind, researchers explained humans most likely got the lice, which most commonly live in pubic hair, from sleeping in gorilla nests or eating the apes.
"It certainly wouldn't have to be what many people are going to immediately assume it might have been, and that is sexual intercourse occurring between humans and gorillas," explained researcher David Reed of the Florida Museum of Natural History. "Instead of something sordid, it could easily have stemmed from an activity that was considerably more tame."
Humans are unique among primates in that we host two different kinds of lice—one on our heads and bodies (Pediculus), the bane of many schoolchildren, and pubic lice (Pthirus). In comparison, chimpanzees have only head lice and gorillas only pubic lice.
Parasite history
Understanding the history of lice is important because they and other parasites yield valuable hints about the lifestyles of human ancestors and the evolution of modern humans, Reed said.
"Our own history is written in the DNA of parasites as well as ourselves, and by studying both we can come to a better, more complete understanding of our evolutionary history," Reed told LiveScience. "These lice really give us the potential to learn how humans evolved when so many parts of our evolutionary history are obscure."
Investigating lice can also help in understanding how parasites move from one species to another, Reed added.
"If you look at emerging infectious diseases that affect humans all over the world, most have their origins on some other host before threatening humans," he said. "Studying what it takes for a parasite to be successful in switching hosts adds to our knowledge about what makes a good host for the spread of disease."
Collecting lice
In collaboration with scientists who collected lice from primates in Ugandan wildlife sanctuaries, Reed and his colleagues extracted DNA from the parasites and used fossil data from humans and gorillas to estimate how long ago these two kinds of lice shared a common ancestor.
"The hardest part was collecting the gorilla lice, and without the help of our colleagues Chris Whittier and Michael Cranfield at the Mountain Gorilla Veterinary Project, we wouldn't have been able to do this project at all," Reed said. "They monitor the health of gorillas in Uganda, Rwanda, and the Democratic Republic of Congo. Through their monitoring program they have been able to collect ectoparasites, including lice."
The researchers expected humans simply developed pubic lice on their own since this was a simpler explanation than acquiring the parasites from gorillas. However, they were proved wrong.
The evidence suggests gorilla lice began infesting humans about 3.3 million years ago. In contrast, humans and gorillas diverged in evolutionary time about 7 million years ago. The fact the lice took up residence where they did may have coincided with human loss of most hair on the rest of their bodies and the lack of any other suitable niche to live, Reed said.
The researchers detailed their findings in the latest issue of the journal BMC Biology.
Bush meat link
For this species jump to have occurred, the ancestors of humans and gorillas "must have been in the same place at the same time, which was not known before," Reed added. "The fossil record of gorillas in particular tells us very little about the gorilla lineage at the time this switch took place 3.3 million years ago."
These findings do not mean the lice were transmitted by monkey business between humans and gorillas.
"Unfortunately, even today among modern humans there's a bush meat trade where gorillas are killed for their meat," he said. "If archaic humans were butchering or scavenging those animals 3.3 million years ago, it would be a simple thing to transfer those lice from prey to predator."
"This paper makes one's imagination run wild, giving graphic new meaning to that '800 pound gorilla,'" biologist Dale Clayton at the University of Utah said in a prepared statement. "However, as the authors point out, the inferred host switch of pubic lice from gorillas to humans did not require sexual contact. Human pubic or 'crab' lice get transmitted between people on bath towels all the time. So it is easy to imagine that gorilla lice could have transmitted to humans via shared sleeping quarters, or predation, as the authors suggest."
Say No To Pistons 03-07-2007, 09:07 PM "That's racist!"
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fcdrifter13 03-09-2007, 09:18 AM The Primary mission of the Bible is to brainwash the stupid masses with the "3000 years ago dinosaurs lived and jesus shot them with a mac 90" tripe
Manntis 03-09-2007, 09:54 AM Don't be silly. Jeebus used mind bullets.
95whitepep 03-09-2007, 02:21 PM ^^^ cut that BS out YZF.. You act like a spoiled BITCH when you do that.
Eatmyclutch 03-10-2007, 07:15 PM Yea, one thing I hate about Mr. Strong is that he likes to put words in other poeple's mouth.
Animal 03-10-2007, 08:41 PM Picture completely related?
http://www.theforumlounge.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2043
BATMAN 03-10-2007, 11:06 PM YZF can't fuck or even jackoff as a good Christian. Evident of the baby batter filled to his head.Now, his own tadpoles are the millions of voices he is hearing in his head.Let alone, he'll get prostate cancer pretty fast if he don't drain his ducts.
Terrh 03-11-2007, 05:14 AM the funny part is how the earth was created 4000 years ago, roughly 1000+ years after the sumerians invented glue.
Terrh 03-12-2007, 03:25 AM sure could have been. Just because I don't remember right now doesn't mean I didn't have a life back then. Reincarnation ftw.
don't get me wrong, I believe in god, but many parts of the bible should be read with a grain of salt, and are not to be taken literally. I don't think we quite have an accurate picture of how all of this came to be, but it sure as hell didn't happen only a few thousand years ago.
Terrh 03-12-2007, 11:28 AM did you read my post? I said, I probably was there. Not in this body, sure... Not really any way for me to know that, at least at this point.
what human limits did I put on god? I put them on the bible, which, btw, was written by humans.
Eatmyclutch 03-12-2007, 05:04 PM So what's next? Searching for teh Holy Grail?
ComradeGiant 03-12-2007, 06:36 PM in your (worthless) opinion
finds like the Dead Sea Scrolls speak to the contrary....unchanged in thousands of years
Just because the Dead Sea Scrolls are the same as what we have today doesn't make them right in the first place.
The Chinese have a written tradition just as old as the Dead Sea Scrolls, by your logic the I Ching holds the truth.
95whitepep 03-12-2007, 08:31 PM does I Ching make predictions about the future?
No but Nostradamus is several hundered years old, doesn't make him right either.
You logic fails at that point mark.
And the book of the I Ching is that of philosophy not of religion. Again you fail to make any rational point.
skydivr7673 03-12-2007, 11:47 PM in your (worthless) opinion
finds like the Dead Sea Scrolls speak to the contrary....unchanged in thousands of years
youre really not that smart, are ya?
Go on, convince everyone that the bible and those scrolls were not written by a human hand. Prove it. And when you fail, because they most definitely were written by human hands, you can go back to your rogaine.
Ten thousand years from now, someone can dig up a dictionary. If english is no longer around then it will be translated, just as the bible and countless other books have been. And you know what? If it has been translated properly, then it will be unchanged as well. As for the bible, each translation is different from the next, so if it is "unchanged", then what do you use to explain these changes in the words?
skydivr7673 03-12-2007, 11:48 PM only a complete moron like yourself would put the idle babblings of Nostradamus on the same level with the prophecy of scripture
and only a complete assmonkey like yourself would actually have the nut to think that anyone would be bowing down to worship you....instead of worshipping GOD, to whom the glory really should belong instead of how youre trying to always make it yours.
ComradeGiant 03-13-2007, 12:20 AM only a complete moron like yourself would put the idle babblings of Nostradamus on the same level with the prophecy of scripture
Why, were you there? How do you know the scripture wasn't written by a babbling idiot?
You don't. You only THINK its right. You have FAITH that its right. You don't KNOW its right.
You need to start applying your own standards to yourself.
Manntis 03-13-2007, 12:44 AM in your (worthless) opinion
So you deny a human hand put ink to scroll and wrote the books of the bible? Did it magically appear there? Or did the scroll just form out of ether?
Terrh 03-13-2007, 01:29 AM and what makes my opinion so worthless anyways?
95whitepep 03-13-2007, 03:23 AM only a complete moron like yourself would put the idle babblings of Nostradamus on the same level with the prophecy of scripture
Thats not my point schizo mark, man do you need to learn to read, because your comprehension skill just suck....no wonder you have the bible all wrong.
You fail again to make any rational comment.
Animal 03-13-2007, 07:43 PM Just quit feeding the troll, thanks.
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