Since im a history buff, i always like to think about what it would be like to live in another era. So i just wanted to see what yall thought.


Personally i would pick ancient Greece/Sparta/Rome. Something about that time appeals to me, but i cant really figure out why completly (Given i was royality or a higher class that is)

1900... New York City

The Newsies<3

I wouldn't change a thing, because....'I love technology...always and forever.'

and seriously... they didn't have lemon propel back then..... so scratch history.

history 0
now 1

then vote other fuckers

lick my nuts you jrotc pussy

and yzf i swear to your god, if you say something like fuck the romans cuz they killed jesus, i am having the thread closed!

They did kill Jesus you witch. And you know what... screw Africa too. Just screw Africa alltogether

i dont care if they did kill jesus, im tired of all the religion in every thread. Why hate africa? just dont go there and you dont have to worry, let africa deal with itself

You know who else I hate?

India.

Why?

AOL + Sprint "customer service"

AOL "customer service"
:roll:

Yea... you know all about my battling with them.

let africa deal with itselfThey have been for 30+ years and look at the state they're in today.

Yea, and I know all about their explanations of how to sign on to AOL after I've had it for 7 years, then having to explain to some Indian what having my "IMs blocked" meant. What a fucking joke

1) The Jews killed Jesus.

2) If you move to Greece you'd best like taking it in the ass.

3) I would live in the '80s and run around shaving mullets off.

A jew turned Jesus into the romans right?

You naked fire witch.

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2) If you move to Greece you'd best like taking it in the ass.

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Plus you would be bulimic:puke:

A jew turned Jesus into the romans right?

You naked fire witch.


But Jesus was a jew

But Jesus was a jew

so from a really retarded point of view Jesus fucked him self....

Dark ages might be fun

damnit people no more religion for awhile!

id like to go back 2006 years ago or back to medival times. i want to see medival spawn =D

I'd hang out in 1976 forever, rocking a dirty moustache, drinking Budweiser, listening to Foghat, smoking cheap weed, and driving an El Camino. That'd be pretty kick ass with me.

Oh, and banging loose hippie bitches. Can't forget about that.

They did kill Jesus you witch. And you know what... screw Africa too. Just screw Africa alltogether

Ok, so can we alter the subject a little bit? If you could go back and stop ONE historical event from happening, what would it be and why?

1) Kill Hitler before WWII

2) Stop the birth of Christ

3) Stop slaves from being brought to America

4) Stop Truman from dropping the A-bomb

5) Stop the assassination of JFK

6) Stop the assassination of Abraham Lincoln

7) Other

Sorry to jack the thread, but this just came to me, and seems like I can probably upset the entire board with it LOL.

Ok, so can we alter the subject a little bit? If you could go back and stop ONE historical event from happening, what would it be and why?

1) Kill Hitler before WWII

2) Stop the birth of Christ

3) Stop slaves from being brought to America

4) Stop Truman from dropping the A-bomb

5) Stop the assassination of JFK

6) Stop the assassination of Abraham Lincoln

7) Other

Sorry to jack the thread, but this just came to me, and seems like I can probably upset the entire board with it LOL.


Jesus. Everything else has had a lasting effect that I wouldn't want to be without.

God allowed His Son, The Branch (one of my favorite titles from the O.T.), who is called Jesus, to be killed, as the atoning sacrifice for the sin of humanity....ultimately, that is why Christ came into the world

the Jews may have physically rejected their own Messiah and had him executed, but that was all according to plan, the real reason is God exercized judgment on His own Son....that is the amazing aspect of the gospel

just to clear that up

oh my yahweh... i can fully agree with YZF on something.

that's actually the reasonable christian perspective on the death of christ.

i like alot of time periods. but i wouldn't want to live during those times.

my favorites though =

roman republic
roman empire
romance of the three kingdoms in china
bakamatsu/meiji era japan
ww1 ww2 USA

i wouldn't actually want to be a grunt in the legions/army/rebellion/allied infantry etc. though. getting sliced/stabbed/speared/shot would kind of suck.

I have to back up YZF here again, ha. Nothing means more to me or anybody else in here, than the truth of Jesus Christ. Can you imagine a face to face discussion with the Son of the Living God? He created everything.

I'd want to be a plantation owner in the pre-civil war SE US.

I have to back up YZF here again, ha. Nothing means more to me or anybody else in here, than the truth of Jesus Christ. Can you imagine a face to face discussion with the Son of the Living God? He created everything.

Speak for yourself.

Speak for yourself.

Do you agree that if what he claimed is true, then his significance in being here far outweighed any issue ever? That nothing else had more meaning if what he said is true. This would reduce any other issue to be inconsequential.

God allowed His Son, The Branch (one of my favorite titles from the O.T.), who is called Jesus, to be killed

So God allowed the Romans to prune The Branch in a sort of mediterranian Banzai ritual?

interesting take on things; it could also lead to some new product names:

"Honey, have you seen my Jesus Shears? I want to trim the burning bush..."

i would go back to my teen years and tell myself... if you EVER... EVER date...

Do you agree that if what he claimed is true, then his significance in being here far outweighed any issue ever? That nothing else had more meaning if what he said is true. This would reduce any other issue to be inconsequential.

Sure, I'll agree to that. Now, on the other hand: Do you agree that if what he claimed is untrue, or if he never really existed at all, that the world would have been spared a lot of suffering (religious persecution, witch hunts, etc), that there are millions who are being misled and misguided?

Upon further reconsideration I'd go chill with the Buddah Siddartha Gautama. I could smoke lots of bud, and he could eat the seeds.

Now thats a pragmatic religious figure.

Sure, I'll agree to that. Now, on the other hand: Do you agree that if what he claimed is untrue, or if he never really existed at all, that the world would have been spared a lot of suffering (religious persecution, witch hunts, etc), that there are millions who are being misled and misguided?

Absolutely, I agree with you. The gravity of the issue compells me to test it out, which I suggest everyone do.

What I don't understand is, given your level of involvement which you've shared, how it didn't connect with you, whereas it made sense to YZF and myself.

Sweet! More lunatic golden jew handholders!

BTW, my favorite OT title for jesus is "Cocksucker".

Sweet! More lunatic golden jew handholders!

BTW, my favorite OT title for jesus is "Cocksucker".

I did a phrase search on Blue Letter Bible and couldn't find that one. You got the chapter and verse for that?

Absolutely, I agree with you. The gravity of the issue compells me to test it out, which I suggest everyone do.

What I don't understand is, given your level of involvement which you've shared, how it didn't connect with you, whereas it made sense to YZF and myself.

Because, bottom line, I refuse to worship anything that gives me an ultimatum. "Accept Jesus, or burn in hell" is not my idea of a "loving" God. I also find the stories in the Bible to be of the same quality as Mythology. Remember, the Greeks founded a society based on a multi-theist model, just like the Israelites founded theirs on a monotheist model. But, for some reason, we say, "Oh, those are just stories." I say the same thing about the Bible. It's there to teach morals and values, but the rest of it is just fiction.

Because, bottom line, I refuse to worship anything that gives me an ultimatum.

$100T2, thank you for your candor and honesty. I see your point. It is similar to one who declares that there is no God at all. Why be a witch then? Why worship anything with rules? Why worship anything without rules? This gets kinda messy. I'm sorry.

Why is it wrong for God to make rules? (I'm focusing here on your particular dislike of the idea of God saying worship me or go to hell.) I think you'd agree that the lifestyle He tells us to live by is full of love for each other.

Convert or die!

I did a phrase search on Blue Letter Bible and couldn't find that one. You got the chapter and verse for that?

Handholders 1:23

i had seafood for lunch.:gives:

$100T2, thank you for your candor and honesty. I see your point. It is similar to one who declares that there is no God at all. Why be a witch then? Why worship anything with rules? Why worship anything without rules? This gets kinda messy. I'm sorry.

See, that's the thing... Witches don't worship anything. Sure, Wiccans do, they are a bunch of tree-hugging druids. Wiccans and Witches are 100% different. Trust me on this.

Witchcraft (which to most people who are completely uninformed is an evil, dirty word) is about a partnership with the tides and flows of the world around us. Sure, we can cast spells to help ourselves or others along in the flow of things, but bottom line, it's not like I can change things too terribly much. We have holidays to celebrate different things, and there is both a God and a Goddess, but they are more of a reciprocal kind of love/respect rather than actual "worship".

Now, as far as spellcraft goes, like I've said in a different thread, casting spells is just like elaborate prayer. If your Grandmother had cancer, you would pray to God/Jesus to cure her, or if that was impossible, to lessen her suffering, right? Same thing a witch would do, just in a different format. Marky's b.s. about "dancing naked around fires" is a blatant stereotype... I'm sure there are some witches who dance around fires, I'm sure there are some witches who do live animal sacrifice, I'm sure there are some witches who do all sorts of things... But, I'm your basic, everyday kinda guy. To look at me, you wouldn't think "Hey, he's a witch." Same thing with my girlfriend. Witches know other witches, we can just kinda pick up on it, but I'm not one of those people who dresses all goth and proclaims it everywhere... Much like Christians, there's a big difference between talking the talk and walking the walk... Typically, the people who call themselves "witches" and broadcast it left and right, dress like vampires and have Pentagrams everywhere are full of shit. They're trying to fit in to something, because they view themselves as so unique or different... But they probably know less about the actual Craft than Mark does.

Why is it wrong for God to make rules? (I'm focusing here on your particular dislike of the idea of God saying worship me or go to hell.) I think you'd agree that the lifestyle He tells us to live by is full of love for each other.

Ok, see there are some rules in Christianity that are good:

Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's wife.
Thou shalt not murder others...

Those types of things are actual rules. A rule is a "do" or "do not" type of thing. "Worship me or go to hell" is not a rule. It's a threat. It's an ultimatum. My Goddess doesn't say "Love me or go to hell", she says "Love me and shall I love you as well." Do you see the difference? There's no threat, implied or otherwise.

that is God's great LOVE, clearly demonstrated....and, accordingly, He is justifed in damning those who refuse His great Gift

I disagree. If someone refuses his gift, then condemn them to hell? How about, ok, fine, you refuse my gift, then you don't get the brass ring. You don't get to go to heaven. You get to just, oh, do whatever. But when it's a choice of accept me or go to hell for all eternity, that's bullshit. That's like being mugged for your soul. Here, eat this twinkie, or eat this plate of horse intestines. Everyone's gonna pick the twinkie. Here, take this brand new Ferrari, or walk barefoot on hot coals for the rest of your life... Everyone would take the Ferrari. Having to coerce someone into accepting is NOT omnipotent or all-loving.

Handholders 1:23


Ah, I see, but you've taken it out of context. The preceeding verse promises that the blasphemor, shall be rebuked by ZYF.

Having to coerce someone into accepting is NOT omnipotent or all-loving.Not to mention that it totally negates the point of having the power of freewill, which God supposedly granted to mankind in Genesis...

your garbage is not worth any responseAnd yet you respond...

your condemnation is 100% justifiedSo is yours. Pax vobiscum.

kevin, you are hopelessly warped, your garbage is not worth any response, your condemnation is 100% justified

And this guy is a Christian?

:rofl:

I mean, at least bx7 is able to discuss this stuff rationally and respectfully. You want to know why I'm not a Christian? Exhibit A: Mark Strong. Calling yourself a Christian doesn't give you carte blanche to go around telling everyone they are going to rot in the pits of Hell, Mark. And the fact that you fly into such a fucking rage when you don't like what others say... Well, if I'm rotting in the pits of Hell, you and I are going to be neighbors.

Feudal Japan, but that's just because I really like the idea of somehow becoming part of the Samurai class and roaming the countryside... :D

Not to mention that it totally negates the point of having the power of freewill, which God supposedly granted to mankind in Genesis...

Exactly. And, what's the point of all the Bible, the battle between Good and Evil, all that other stuff, when, according to the Christians, everything is predetermined?

The Christians have been screaming that the sky is falling for hundreds and hundreds of years. It's old, it's tired, and it's not happening. The Biblical "prophecies" are so generalized, they can be twisted to fit almost anything, kinda like horoscopes.

And carry around a golf club for seppuku?

The Christians have been screaming that the sky is falling for hundreds and hundreds of years. It's old, it's tired, and it's not happening. The Biblical "prophecies" are so generalized, they can be twisted to fit almost anything, kinda like horoscopes.The sad part is that Mark is actually enthusiastic about current world events, solely because an all-out war in the middle east with Israel involved might loosely prove that some of what the Bible said would come to pass did... and that's pretty fucking sick, in my opinion.

How petty and shallow can you possibly get? And the answer is, as we now know, as petty and shallow as Mark Strong. :bigthumb:

now that's some "strong" words there ;)

The sad part is that Mark is actually enthusiastic about current world events, solely because an all-out war in the middle east with Israel involved might loosely prove that some of what the Bible said would come to pass did... and that's pretty fucking sick, in my opinion.

How petty and shallow can you possibly get? And the answer is, as we now know, as petty and shallow as Mark Strong. :bigthumb:

I know, he has a huge hard-on to see the world end, and then wants to stand next to God and Jesus and giggle with glee as people are tortured in Hell.

Fuck, he would have been a great concentration camp guard, ya know?

And carry around a golf club for seppuku?

LOL

I'd use nothing but the finest crafted steel....

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fuckin a people, cant yall leave the religious shit in the christianity section?

i say close or move the thread!

Denied.

Whore!

fuckin a people, cant yall leave the religious shit in the christianity section?Take it up with COsborne. He's the one allowing Mark to stay and wish death and damnation on everyone.

i say close or move the thread!I say use your common sense... you start a poll about living in any era with a Christian nut loose on the forum and you don't expect him to spark another religious argument in your thread? She-it. :rolleyes:

I think yzf is sane after reading the witch spiel....

I would go back to the late 70's and jump in front of cool inventions and take credit for them.

Oh and by a shit load of Microsoft stock.

Oh and kill Bill Clinton and Diane Feinstein.

of course the other era I would love to have lived in is the pre-Flood time frame, preferably in the family of Noah....to witness the Flood would have been, well, beyond imagination

and I would see dinosaurs, in the flesh :)

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i would go back to my teen years and tell myself... if you EVER... EVER date...
:roll:


Seriously, I would want to go back to 1940. I would try to get everything in line to become a pilot for the Army by 1943. I wouldn't mind flying a brand new North American P-51D Mustang.

you know it always strikes me as comical when this question comes up....the evolutionary zealots never....even once....say they wished they would have lived miiiiilllllllions and miiiiiiillllllions of years ago, back in the "hominid" times, to see what is was REALLY like back then to be an ape man or whatever they heck they believe :evillaugh

why? they intuitively know they whole darwinian fairy tale is a total pile of steaming horseshit, and records of any intelligent civilization promptly drop off the map when you go back in time 5,000 or so years

but, wait a minute...WE, those who believe God at His Word....WE believe the fairy tales!!

truly amazing how the media brainwashing has been so effective....I live in a world of fools


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You may have a point, but WTF does this and God have to do with any-damn-thing that this thread was about??

Can we give the bible-thrash fest a rest for awhile? :dunno:

Turn the other damn cheek already.....

no, I desire to see God glorified, and every mouth speaking lies silencedHeavy emphasis on seeing those speaking "lies" silenced, right? Right?

Do you think for once, just once, you could end a post with your own fucking opinion and refrain from quoting some more fucking SCRIPTURE at us?

you know it always strikes me as comical when this question comes up....the evolutionary zealots never....even once....say they wished they would have lived miiiiilllllllions and miiiiiiillllllions of years ago, back in the "hominid" times, to see what is was REALLY like back then to be an ape man or whatever they heck they believe :evillaugh


Actually we don't wan't to go back then because it was a fucked up world full of giant critters with big fucking teeth.

That question is retarded. Let me ask you a similar question:

Why don't Christians ever say that they want to go to Sodom and Gomorrah?
Or Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar? Or Egypt pre-Moses?

Oh... thats right, because they were shit-holes.

you know it always strikes me as comical when this question comes up....the evolutionary zealots never....even once....say they wished they would have lived miiiiilllllllions and miiiiiiillllllions of years ago, back in the "hominid" times, to see what is was REALLY like back then to be an ape man or whatever they heck they believe :evillaugh

why? they intuitively know they whole darwinian fairy tale is a total pile of steaming horseshit, and records of any intelligent civilization promptly drop off the map when you go back in time 5,000 or so years

but, wait a minute...WE, those who believe God at His Word....WE believe the fairy tales!!

truly amazing how the media brainwashing has been so effective....I live in a world of fools


Do you know what similar trend I find among die-hard Christians of faith similar to yours? No education. Every truck drivin', bible thumpin meth head also praises Jesus. Every recovering drug addict latches on to Jesus. Every mountain bred, one toothed yokel praises Jesus. These people haven't seen the sun shine outside of their own town, let alone gathered enough intelligence to make a decision for themselves.

Sure there are successful people who are into that whole thing. But make a stop by any revival, anywhere, anytime and look at the sort of people who are attending. Most are ill educated, blue collar factory workers who aren't smart enough to form an opinion for themselves. I deal with these people CONSTANTLY, to the point of making me want to puke. At least once a week I will hear some sort of Jesus talk, that has no place in a business discussion. I had some lady preach to me about having too many possessions, and working too much to get those possessions. She told me that "the lord won't care how much you have, you should get rid of that stuff". Sure lady, I'll take your reccommendation and sell my shit to get right with Jesus. Talk about living among fools, I would say that they are your main company.

Much like Christians, there's a big difference between talking the talk and walking the walk...

Absolutely correct, YZF has already pointed this out. The Bible describes these people as having a form of Godliness (claiming Christianity) but having no power to back it up.

This is a complete waste of a life. I know because I've been there myself. I would still be guilty of this had not something significant happened to me.

Ok, see there are some rules in Christianity that are good:

Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's wife.
Thou shalt not murder others....

Those types of things are actual rules. A rule is a "do" or "do not" type of thing. "Worship me or go to hell" is not a rule. It's a threat. It's an ultimatum. My Goddess doesn't say "Love me or go to hell", she says "Love me and shall I love you as well." Do you see the difference? There's no threat, implied or otherwise.

I see it. Let me tie together this with something else you've said:


If someone refuses his gift, then condemn them to hell? How about, ok, fine, you refuse my gift, then you don't get the brass ring. You don't get to go to heaven. You get to just, oh, do whatever. But when it's a choice of accept me or go to hell for all eternity, that's bullshit. That's like being mugged for your soul. Having to coerce someone into accepting is NOT omnipotent or all-loving.

Would you say that this 'ultimatum' is your heaviest objection to Christianity, (yzf aside, ha)? Would you say that most everything else about it makes sense, but this part prevents you from taking it seriously?

I'm going to try to unravel your 'ultimatum' position. It is a very valid point of view and difficult to overcome. I want to separate for a moment the punishment from the choice. If I can do this, hopefully you'll see that the 'ultimatum' does not exist. Consider this. Hell is a place where God isn't. God gives you a choice. 'Come and be with me, or don't be with me'. You do have a choice. You were created to last for an eternity. You can spend it with God or with out him. Death is a rip off, especially when it happens to young people.

Now let me get to the 'punishment'.

Here are the non-God related commandments:
Don't lie
Don't steal
Don't commit adultery
Honor your parents
Don't murder
Don't covet

I think everyone would agree that these are great rules. He's basically saying 'I created you, now live this way'. It's a pretty good deal. At the same time, he's also the one who promises to carry out justice.

Is it wrong for God to hold each accountable for these rules? If someone stole from you, you'd want justice. So no, it's not wrong for God to deliver justice. It is right. He gave you life and a great set of rules to live by. Who are we to say that He shouldn't carry out justice for this great deal.

Don't see this as an ultimatum. Look carefully at what He's said and the actions that He's done for you. He's given you life. He wants you to be with him (please, no Brokebutt Mountain jokes from the gallery). He says over and over that He loves you, regardless of what you've done. He's going to deliver justice to those who have trampled you. If you choose to be with him, justice for the things that you've done still has to be paid. It already has been paid. Someone else paid the 'ultimate' price for it.

Does this help?

you have a short memory, or you selectively read stuffThou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye...

Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house and
If you got a glass jaw, don't be runnin yo moufffff
cuz i'll break yo faceeeeeee

I read posts just fine, except when they are incredibly lame comments about David Hayes or single action revolvers :DFor someone who claims to be proficient with a pistol, I would have thought you'd recognize good advice to a potential first time pistol shooter who just wanted a pistol to take to the range a couple times a year, especially since your reading comprehension is "just fine". Apparently not, because in your paranoid fantasy world, armed intruders require a withering hail of gunfire only afforded by a double-action .357 Magnum wielded by a limp-wristed Christian zealot...

As for David Hayes... you're the only one who seems to think you had a legitimate point. Sorry I don't keep up on trivialities concerning 20B owners as closely as you do, Ryosuke-san.

everyone should be required to post a pic on these forums so we can put a face with a screen nameIf that's the case, your screen name should be "Mad Midget", with mad having a double meaning in this case.

Mad at life. Mad as a hatter. :bigthumb:

http://khaoulita.afrikblog.com/images/19_359656929_eminem_a__H145221_L.jpg

:dunno:

lol

^
Damn! I knew it!

If that's the case, your screen name should be "Mad Midget", with mad having a double meaning in this case.
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I wouldn't change a thing, because....'I love technology...always and forever.'

You would love 1880-1920. The amount of technology utilized during that era makes our modern era pale in comparison. Telegraph, electricity, telephones, washing machines, refrigerators, etc, etc, etc.

Edit: Sorry for getting "off-topic".

You forgot Nikola Tesla being alive in general. That was the coolest part of that era.

this "limp wristed" "zealot" is not only stronger than you in every possible category, but can also out-shoot you

fact is, I'm just better than you at life, Jim....you are the ultimate "poser"Sure, whatever.

I'm not the one doing all the ridiculous chest-thumping or desperately trying to find something -- anything -- that I'm better at than you are.

I already know that I'm superior to you Mark, because I don't need a Bible to prop my life up and make it seem meaningful.

I'm 5'11", 190-195...With 3" platform shoes and 20 lbs. of change in your pockets...

Post a picture where you're standing next to someone else of average height and we'll see how big you really are.

I don't "use the Bible" to "prop myself up"Yes, you do. I don't see anyone else around here trying to support all their points by quoting Bible verses and linking to creationist web sites.

I use it to refute philosophical error, which is rampant in 2006So is your lunacy...

having nothing to sayActually, I think I've hit the nail on the head and the reason you're so damned defensive is because you know that I'm right.

of course it's basically a waste of time to defend one's self in this formatYou can always leave, but of course you can't do that because you love the attention, not to mention the rush of playing a martyr for Christ... even if your martyrdom is only in your own mind and legitimate Christians would be appalled by your whoring of your own religion.

plus the ground slopes away thereI've noticed that the truth tends to slope away from wherever you stand too...

I don't "love being a martyr"Sure you do. If not, then why are you always making such overly dramatic posts about living in a "world of fools" and shit like that?

complete nonsense...Again, just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean that it's complete nonsense. I'm not the only one who has noticed this about you.

I have the same right to post you doYes, you do. Why do you choose to continually abuse it?

When faced with the choice of "acting normal" or "making an overly religious ass of myself", you predictably choose the latter. Why is that?

you just can't help yourself, you're an asshole, and proud of itTrue, but I'm only an asshole to the people who are especially deserving, and you are one of those people.

I've noticed the hot air and bullshit tends to accumulate around youRight, I never post anything factual.

wanna keep playing Jim?Sure, especially since you're losing and will continue to lose. The only way that you could increase anyone's opinion of you is by leaving.

I keep losing what?Damn near every argument you get into with me. Have you checked the poll results?

http://www.theforumlounge.com/thread6056-who-wins-the-interweb-wars.html

why don't you leave?Because I'm not the one making a general nuisance of myself by bringing religion into discussions every chance I get.

ha, ya....poll results from a mob that similarly hates the TruthOr a mob that hates your dumb ass...

well, too bad little jimmee, you can kiss my ass, I'm not going anywhere, you hear me, you moron? post all the crap you want, I'll be all the more sure to hang aroundThat's fine, pipsqueak, and I'll be sure to keep knocking your dick in the dirt whenever you're being a condescending douche bag, a pumped-up little braggart, or a religious asshole... which is pretty much all of the time.

then when I joined this forum you brought your evolutionist buddy on here for helpActually, Andrew was already here months before you showed up and was only lurking, as even you should have been able to figure out...

http://www.theforumlounge.com/search.php?searchid=13669&pp=25&page=16

I have never needed any help in fighting my battles, as anyone with even a modicum of intelligence could easily confirm. It's not my fault that a large segment of the forum population happens to agree with me where your opinions and behavior are concerned.

because you were too stupid to argue the origins topic yourself:roll:

I don't give a damn about evolution vs. creation as it pertains to finding "the answer", as I've said many, many times before, but you just can't seem to grasp the fact that not everyone has a chosen side in your pet argument. Then again, it's now obvious that I've been crediting you with far more intelligence than you actually possess.

what's next? call your sick mom? :roll:When you have to resort to pathetic crap like this, it's pretty obvious that you're all done. Pack your bags, little man.

bullshit! why do you so eagerly become involved in the origins debates then, if you "don't give a damn"? lies! you are a filthy liar!Just to fuck with you, dumbshit! :roll:

Christ, why else would I become involved with one of your stupid arguments?!?

the fact is that any topic that represents an affront to your frail ego and sense of supreme arrogance bothers you, so you try to stick your nose into it, although your tiny whimisical wrench-head mind is not focused on ultimate questions....at least not yetOh shit, that's too funny. :roll:

You seem to like calling people "wrench-head" these days. Does it bother your frail ego that this particular "wrench-head" is more intelligent, better educated, and far more successful than you are?

oh, I'm FAR from done, little manNo, you're WELL done. :roll:

clearly that is a lie, because you have posted several long winded comments about the Genesis flood and dinosaurs, now you're just being an assAre you telling me that you never even once suspected that I was tossing out anything I could come up with just to make you hop and twist another ridiculous explanation out of thin air?!? :roll:

Jesus, you really are dense! :bigthumb:

you cannot prove anything you claimYeah, it's not at all obvious that I'm more intelligent and have a far wider range of knowledge than you do. :D

bah, you'll be damned anyway....you're nothing but a temporary annoyanceI hate to break it to you, but you're going to be stuck with a LOT of "temporary" annoynances until you die 30 or 40 years from now. Maybe you should be trying a little harder to get along with them instead of being such an ass about your psychotic tribulation death-fantasy, you crazy fuck.

Would you say that this 'ultimatum' is your heaviest objection to Christianity, (yzf aside, ha)? Would you say that most everything else about it makes sense, but this part prevents you from taking it seriously?

Nope. It all falls under Mythology to me. There are rules in Mythology, also enforced by Gods and/or Goddesses. There are rules in Witchcraft, there are rules in Wicca, specifically the Wiccan Rede, "Anything you do comes back on you three times". So, the way I see it, it's all just there to teach you morals and values.

Does Witchcraft have a story for the creation of the Earth? Of course. Every religion does. I don't believe the Witchcraft story any more than I believe the Biblical version any more than I believe the scientific version. I know this much: Somehow, we are here. Somehow, the world came to be. And, if somehow, there was a way to know exactly how it occured, I think science, religion, and every other theory out there would be wrong.

There's some things you just don't know. And, I'm ok with that.

maybe you are the "crazy fuck"Sorry, you already took that job. I'm just the resident pompous asshole, remember?

you sure are fuckface :D