This is the fourth one I've burned up now with just normal use.

Time to try an Archos or JetAudio.

Yeah those things are shit. Plus nothing says gay like Ipod. I have a Motorola M500.

I don't know about Archos...I have a AV340 and the battery life is HORRIBLE.

Currently I'm using a Creative Zen Vision:M ...I like it.

how about the Zune? *runs for the hills*

Just use a PDA. I bought a 2gig memory card for $40 two weeks ago. it has 1.5 gigs left after i loaded my music on it.

Maybe its done with you? Get a new one and rockbox mod that shit. I would get a Cowon iAudio X5 or a Zune.

Mine has held up alright. My video ipod has been through a LOT and it's still going.

So let's recap.

I can sit on the toilet and play solitare while listening to Boston until the reminder from my ACT program tells me I have an appointment to make.

Yea, an ipod is a great idea.

From someone that has a Motorola Q smart phone, Dell handheld PDA and an IPOD. The ipod is the best for music hands down.

So let's recap.

I can sit on the toilet and play solitare while listening to Boston until the reminder from my ACT program tells me I have an appointment to make.

Yea, an ipod is a great idea.

I have a MDA and the phone kicks ass for that reason. The only down side is i would like to listen to music while working out at the gym but dont want to bring this phone in for fear of hitting it with a weight and breaking it. My phone has wireless internet as well so i usually and sitting on the can using outlook to check my email, playing solitaire, listening to HIM, Johnny Cash, shinedown, etc, all while loading a few porn sites through mobile IE.

yea my video i pod has literally been in a mexican toilet and it still works.

I still have my 4 year old CD walkman I take to the gym every day

*shrugs*

call me old school...it sounds great with my UM-2 earphones

You holy in my eyes buddy. :bigthumb:

I still have my 4 year old CD walkman I take to the gym every day

*shrugs*

call me old school...it sounds great with my UM-2 earphones

I thought all gospel came as 8 track?

Just use a PDA. I bought a 2gig memory card for $40 two weeks ago. it has 1.5 gigs left after i loaded my music on it.
small problem with that, over 109 GB of music in my library that is imported. Another close to 20 waiting to be sorted.

Maybe its done with you? Get a new one and rockbox mod that shit. I would get a Cowon iAudio X5 or a Zune.
Can't rockbox because I'm running an iPod video ATM. And OE software on the iPods work best when you are also running a mac desktop, duh.

Will ipods allow you to sort everything by filename, and not id3 tags? I bought one of those creative zen mp3 players and it would not allow me to just browse the music directory using file names... it auto arranged shit by id3 tags and was a giant mess and i couldn't use it. I have 10,000 mp3s named correctly how i want, in folders and such... i don't want to have to edit 10,000 id3 tags.

I just hum to myself.

Will ipods allow you to sort everything by filename, and not id3 tags? I bought one of those creative zen mp3 players and it would not allow me to just browse the music directory using file names... it auto arranged shit by id3 tags and was a giant mess and i couldn't use it. I have 10,000 mp3s named correctly how i want, in folders and such... i don't want to have to edit 10,000 id3 tags.
Thats why you do correct id3 tags in the first place. I have all of my mp3's tagged and named correctly, thats almost 22,000 songs with everything as right as I can make it on em. Whats the point in only doing it half assed?

Thats why you do correct id3 tags in the first place. I have all of my mp3's tagged and named correctly, thats almost 22,000 songs with everything as right as I can make it on em. Whats the point in only doing it half assed?

Because I don't pay for them and I'm not going through every song I download and correct that shit. I don't have time to look up the album name of every song, year released, all that bullshit.... mainly because I don't care. I care about who the artist is, and the name of that song... which is in the filename. ID3 tags are stupid.

ID3 tags are stupid.
:rolleyes:

Please. It is goddamned nice to have all the info at your fingertips when running it through any sort of mp3 player. What if all you can remember is the album that the song is off from? Are you going to have file names a mile and a half long to have artist, album, track name, and track number?

Also, if you aren't paying for them, find a better (private) site to get them from. There are many out there that 98% of what you get from them is already tagged correctly. Not to mention better bitrates that most of what is available on open sites.

Because I don't pay for them and I'm not going through every song I download and correct that shit. I don't have time to look up the album name of every song, year released, all that bullshit.... mainly because I don't care. I care about who the artist is, and the name of that song... which is in the filename. ID3 tags are stupid.

Tag from filename, FTW.

:rolleyes:

Please. It is goddamned nice to have all the info at your fingertips when running it through any sort of mp3 player. What if all you can remember is the album that the song is off from? Are you going to have file names a mile and a half long to have artist, album, track name, and track number?

Also, if you aren't paying for them, find a better (private) site to get them from. There are many out there that 98% of what you get from them is already tagged correctly. Not to mention better bitrates that most of what is available on open sites.

1: I have complete albums arranged in logical file-name folders. Individual tracks are arranged in logical file-names.

2: I'm not stupid, I know the name of every song that I own but don't know 75% of the albums, especially for singles, nor do I care. As mentioned, I'd go to the artists name in alphabetical order if the shit was done correctly (with file names, not id3 tags.)

3: I don't get mp3s from sites. There's this magical thing called bittorrent.

4: CD quality is 128kbps, anything higher, most headphones and/or stock car stereos speaker frequencies aren't capable of any improvement quality by going with a higher bitrate. 128kbps if what i prefer, 192kbps is second.

5: As a preference, sorting mp3s by filename & folders sounds logical to me, and much more convienent.... just like windows explorer. I play 100% of my music on my computer, or on my mp3 deck right now.... which uses filenames to arrange order, but will display id3 tags if desired. I want an mp3 player that allows me to sort by file names, because as mentioned, id3 tags are stupid.

2: I'm not stupid, I know the name of every song that I own but don't know 75% of the albums, especially for singles, nor do I care. As mentioned, I'd go to the artists name in alphabetical order if the shit was done correctly (with file names, not id3 tags.):rofl: you remember 10,000 track names? :rofl:

3: I don't get mp3s from sites. There's this magical thing called bittorrent.no shit sherlock. Perhaps you should research this thing called private trackers where you go to the website and download the torrent file, eh? Kinda hard to use bittorrent without a tracker.

4: CD quality is 128kbps, anything higher, most headphones and/or stock car stereos speaker frequencies aren't capable of any improvement quality by going with a higher bitrate. 128kbps if what i prefer, 192kbps is second.:rofl: again. I used to think similar until I listened to a 128 rip of London Symphony Orchestra and then a 320 rip of London Symphony Orchestra. There is a difference. I don't need you to get into the mechanics of audio compression, I know about that. If 128 is "plenty" why are lossless formats starting to take over for most audiophiles? Why is it that people get permabanned for seeding torrents with transcodes or less than 192 minimum.

5: As a preference, sorting mp3s by filename & folders sounds logical to me, and much more convienent.... just like windows explorer. I play 100% of my music on my computer, or on my mp3 deck right now.... which uses filenames to arrange order, but will display id3 tags if desired. I want an mp3 player that allows me to sort by file names, because as mentioned, id3 tags are stupid.different strokes for different folks. I have mine organized by files and folders if the need ever arises, but it hasn't yet.

I guess you just haven't caught on to the fact that you are of a dying breed, there are better and easier ways to maintain a music library.

I have the same diskman I've had since 1997 or 1998... Still works great though the lid sticks sometimes.

I bet it has more hours on it than my car.

Hrm. What sup said.
I hate the MP3s that had huge-ass file names, but going between computers got truncated to "01_APO~1.MP3". Yeah, real fucking descriptive. ID3 ftw. Not to mention character encoding, try putting russian characters in the file name then see what windows says about it.

Everyone I've met that has a newer-ish iPod hates it. Two people at work have newer 4th-gen+ iPods, and both dislike them. Battery life sucks, and Jess' won't shut down/sleep. My 2nd-gen 20GB is still running strong, listened to it all day at work (9hrs) and still had 1/4 battery when I stuffed it into my backpack. I wonder how hard the HD is to replace... throw an 80GB in there and pull out the old 20....

Two people at work have newer 4th-gen+ iPods, and both dislike them.
you know how long I've been having troubles with this POS. Its a 60gb but you can't put more then 30 on it at a time for fear of crashing the system, all the small things that add up to a PITA.

Got to play around with an Archos and a JetAudio the other day in calc class 'cause some other music geeks sit close to me. They are sweet pieces of kit, probably will wind up with one sooner rather then later.

anyone want to buy a 60gb iPod video once I get it back from repairs?

I have a cube thing from walmart. It was 20$ holds a gig of songs, and is small enough to fit in your pocket without noticing. Ive had it for a year and havnt had any problems, and the batter y life is pretty good, and I dont have to buy bateries(charges off my comp and headunit in my car.

I might get a headunit that you can plug USB or SD drives into, then I'll just rock a gig or two of my favorite tunes, rather than putting up with my iPod. My most listened songs only take about 800mb these days. I don't care if it's a lower quality headunit or whatever, I'm in my car, not a fucking anechoic chamber or acoustically tuned opera house.

1: I have complete albums arranged in logical file-name folders. Individual tracks are arranged in logical file-names.

2: I'm not stupid, I know the name of every song that I own but don't know 75% of the albums, especially for singles, nor do I care. As mentioned, I'd go to the artists name in alphabetical order if the shit was done correctly (with file names, not id3 tags.)

3: I don't get mp3s from sites. There's this magical thing called bittorrent.

4: CD quality is 128kbps, anything higher, most headphones and/or stock car stereos speaker frequencies aren't capable of any improvement quality by going with a higher bitrate. 128kbps if what i prefer, 192kbps is second.

5: As a preference, sorting mp3s by filename & folders sounds logical to me, and much more convienent.... just like windows explorer. I play 100% of my music on my computer, or on my mp3 deck right now.... which uses filenames to arrange order, but will display id3 tags if desired. I want an mp3 player that allows me to sort by file names, because as mentioned, id3 tags are stupid.

There are plenty of freeware programs that allow you to create id3 tags based on filenames or file structure, that's how I set mine up. It took me a couple hours to get it all setup but now that it's done it's definitely worth it.

:rofl: you remember 10,000 track names? :rofl:.
You can play any of my mp3s, and I can tell you who the artist is, and more than likely the name of the song.


no shit sherlock. Perhaps you should research this thing called private trackers where you go to the website and download the torrent file, eh? Kinda hard to use bittorrent without a tracker..
"you should probably use bittorrent." Good one, jackass.

:rofl: again. I used to think similar until I listened to a 128 rip of London Symphony Orchestra and then a 320 rip of London Symphony Orchestra. There is a difference. I don't need you to get into the mechanics of audio compression, I know about that. If 128 is "plenty" why are lossless formats starting to take over for most audiophiles? Why is it that people get permabanned for seeding torrents with transcodes or less than 192 minimum.

I'm extremely happyfor you, however, realistically there isn't much sound improvement over 128 on most headphones and car audio systems. You may get a shitty rip of one at 128, and a good quality rip of one at a higher bitrate. Convert the higher bitrate to 128... and you won't notice much of a difference if any. Certainly not enough to double the file size.

:different strokes for different folks. I have mine organized by files and folders if the need ever arises, but it hasn't yet.
Yes, why logically arrange in a universal way, when one format can have super duper ID3 tags to give you pointless information, when it could simply scroll/display the filename?

:I guess you just haven't caught on to the fact that you are of a dying breed, there are better and easier ways to maintain a music library.
The first mp3 players that weren't on a desktop pc, were on car cd players, before ipods. How did they (and most still do) arrange them? by logical file names. Why has it changed? Because mp3s have become popular and the stupid mass has got involved. As I said, it makes much more sense to me to use logical file names on mp3 players, because any computer you hook it to, is going to do the same. If it's orderly in one, it'll be orderly in the other. There's certainly more time involved in the maintenance of id3 tags also.

Hrm. What sup said.
I hate the MP3s that had huge-ass file names, but going between computers got truncated to "01_APO~1.MP3". Yeah, real fucking descriptive. ID3 ftw. Not to mention character encoding, try putting russian characters in the file name then see what windows says about it.

1: Get your flux capacitor out and come back to the future... I highly doubt any computer not capable of file names over 8 characters are capable of playing mp3s.

2: Try putting Russian characters in a name? Cool, I'll go do that. I don't know russian, so that way when it shows up, I don't know what the fuck it says! Brilliant! That beats the shit out of finding a more logical English name for it.

What is bittorrent?

I go to the "actual" Libraray and check out the CD I want and rip the music off of it. The file reads the artist, song name, album, has a pic of the album cover

But the reality of it, I am over my head with this whole discussion. What is a bitorrent?

dude, yeah, libraries kick ass for music piracy. I don't think they give a shit what you do.

FLAC is the only way to go for music files, i can tell a large diffrence between 128k 320k and FLAC. I'm using sennheiser HD-580's to listen to music most the time.

I'm impressed sup-man listens to the London Symphony Orchestra :bigthumb:
No better Orchestra in the world IMO. I have plans on seeing them live some time in the next two years.

FLAC is the only way to go for music files, i can tell a large diffrence between 128k 320k and FLAC. I'm using sennheiser HD-580's to listen to music most the time.
Is your HD580 amped?

I know it sounds old school and lame, but most of the time I still use my old Sony DN300

http://www.forestals.com/filebank/imagebank/products/videohifi/dne300.jpg

The sound is amazing and you get about 70 hours on a couple AA batteries. Probably discontinued by now, but if you see one for cheap, highly recommended.

Of course the better earphones these days can cost as much as a player. But no question if you use the ones that come with practically any player, you're barely touching the surface of what you bought...

By the way, if anyone doesn't mind the bulk, any of these (even the cheapest) are amazing.

http://www.turntablelab.com/dj_equipment/303/946/?gclid=COCqhtC-l4kCFRpFSAodQF-BQw
http://www.turntablelab.com/dj_equipment/303/946/3516.html

My gym earphones are from my old walkman (early 90s era) actually. Would think of bringing my $100+ equipment to that place.

Plus I sweat some. :-)

You could always go back to Minidisc....

without good earphones (headphones are too bulky for portable use imo) the sound quality is wasted

http://www.earphonesolutions.com/

UM2's transformed my listening experience
MmMm Shures. They sound a lot better amped (portable amp).

Grados are awesome, but I'd look like mickey mouse in the gym

furthermore, you need an amp to get the best sound out of the larger drivers

+1 . Grado's are a bit too bright for my taste and they lack the comfort i want. They sound great for metal and rock though. I had a MS1 with Sennheiser 414 pads. A lil more comfy and better sounding than stock pads.

sound isolation is key with earphones, esp for good bass reproduction

Hell yeah, my Sony idon'tknowtheirfuckingmodel are really great. I only paid like $100 and fatigue is practically nill. They've got really tight neodymium drivers and just blow my mind away with their clarity and frequency response. I brought them to work over the summer, where I have to wear earplugs all the time, and they kept sound out better than the plugs I was using. They've got silicone sleeves that sort of just nestle them in your ear, but it cuts so much background noise, I love them. I don't need my music nearly as loud as I used to have it, and even at quiter levels, I can't hear the outside world as well.

Fantastic.

Hell yeah, my Sony idon'tknowtheirfuckingmodel are really great. I only paid like $100 and fatigue is practically nill. They've got really tight neodymium drivers and just blow my mind away with their clarity and frequency response. I brought them to work over the summer, where I have to wear earplugs all the time, and they kept sound out better than the plugs I was using. They've got silicone sleeves that sort of just nestle them in your ear, but it cuts so much background noise, I love them. I don't need my music nearly as loud as I used to have it, and even at quiter levels, I can't hear the outside world as well.

Fantastic.
LOL sonys.

LOL sonys.

They're better than Shure e2cs.

Not really.

lil late on the response, dads an electrical engineer so he helped me build a Kumisa III amp.
http://headwize.com/ubb/showpage.php?fnum=3&tid=6605
its a bit ugly, on inclosure and is quite the pile of wires, but it works far greater than the old school sony home amp i was using.

You should build yourself one of these. A Millett Hybrid with Diamond Buffer.

Generic 0.6W 1% metal film resistors
All electrolytics are Sanyo MV-AX series
All film caps are Evox Rifa PHE 426 series
Potentiometer is a 22-step attenuator (populated with metal film resistors)
12AE6's.

I love how warm and relaxed it sounds. Great combo with laid back Sennheisers
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/Tsappadaa/IMG_2317s.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/Tsappadaa/IMG_2588s.jpg

ill build a tube amp sometime, the next thing i want to work on is a set of speaker inclosures for a 5.1 surround sound setup.

Ipod in a blender!

http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=ipod

I personally don't care for the Senn's. Don't have good enough bass for me.

I can't tell you how many years I was taught by a director that believed that more bass was the foundation for everything. After all those years of playing and listening to classical music with deep and rich bass I can't listen to any music without good bass.

Thats why I love my AKG's.

Which AKG?

http://images.thatimagesite.com/core/74/74_image.jpg

Im sending my ipod back to apple tomorrow :)

my millet hybrid board will be here soon.

I got this for xmas. I've seen cheap ones that break but this one's pretty durable and I like the design better than the other ones I've seen. The sound quality is the best I've heard yet. It even fits in the front pocket of my new astral lifevest :)

http://brookstone.com/store/product.asp?product_code=523415&search_type=search&search_words=ifloat&prodtemp=t1&cm_re=Result*R1C1*A
http://brookstone.com/bs_assets/images/shop/large_300/523415_p.jpg

anyone know of a good DAC pcb that isnt sold out?

You might find some at the head-fi group buy section. They usually have a lot of PCBs for amps and DACs. I didn't build my DAC, i just brought a Zhaolu D2C.

im looking for something with usb, thats were it gets hard. i really want to find an Alien DAC. I may have to wait for a PCB to pop up.

I just made an interconnect out of cat5 (Ethernet) cables and really crappy/old Monster RCA connectors. 4 out of the 10 wires were enough ( 2 for ground and 2 for signal) but i some how was able to stuff all 10 of them (5 for ground and 5 for signal) into the connectors and soldered them in. Very hard to solder that many wires but it worked. Sounds surprisingly good. They sound warmer than my 70 OHM triaxial Gepco studio camera DIY interconnects i made. Looks like a gay cable with all those fruity colors twisted into one.

Just an update on apple.... I was sending my ipod back for repair. I filed the RMA about 2 weeks ago and have yet to see the return package from ipod show up. Good luck getting one repaired.

what i dislike about the ipod nano is that it can only be synced with only one itunes music list on only one comp. my younger daughter got it for one of my sons. well the older one took it to his g/f to put alot of songs on it and take it with him when he went on a trip with the church. now we find out the in order to sync it with the itunes on this comp again, it has to erase all those songs that he put on it. wonder if any of the other players do that.

I bet most do. You can thank the RIAA for that.

I suggested to my sister to copy the library to the iPod disk, point iTunes to that library, and save the iTunes data and xml to the iPod disk as well. Then just copypasta the xml/data to whatever computer, library's on the iPod disk, syncs to iPod library.

Sure you only have half the space, but right now she's only got ~4GB of music and a 30GB iPod.

Use XPLAY. It costs about $20, unless you find a free version.;) I hate iTunes with an undying passion.

i use winamp with the ipod plug in...