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Join in on this Discussion and see the pictures. Click here-> : Intelligent Design: An Ambiguous Assault on Evolution


95whitepep
01-07-2009, 05:13 PM
an excerpt from this article
http://www.livescience.com/health/050922_ID_main.html

The Darwinist religion

While denying that ID is religiously motivated, ID proponents often portray evolution as its own kind of religion, one that is atheistic and materialistic, whose converts no longer cast their eyes towards heaven but who rather seek to build heaven here on Earth using their scientific knowledge.

The implication is that by destroying the idea that Man is the paragon of God's creation, evolution robs life of meaning and worth. And by limiting God's role in creation, evolution opens up the terrifying possibility for some that there is no God and no universal moral standard that humans must follow.

Forrest thinks this is just silly. "Where did immorality come from before Darwin figured out natural selection?" she asked.

Far from robbing life of meaning, Forrest believes that it is because of evolution that we are capable of living meaningful lives.

"It's evolution that gives us the advanced nervous system we have so that we can interact with our environments at a highly conscious level," Forrest said.

Miller thinks such claims are also self-fulfilling. "You have essentially told people that if that Darwin guy is right, there is no God, there is no morality, there is no law you are obliged to obey," Miller told LiveScience. "I don't know of any evolutionary biologists who would say that, but I do hear a lot of people on the other side saying it."

What's at stake

On its website, the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) stated that allowing ID into public schools will "undermine scientific credibility and the ability of young people to distinguish science from non-science."

Miller thinks the stakes are much higher than that.

In addition to sowing confusion about what constitutes proper science, ID has the potential to drive people away from science. If classrooms are allowed to become theological battlegrounds, then schoolchildren will basically be told that science is hostile to new ideas and that scientists believe in a ludicrous theory that negates the very existence of God.

"Evolution is not opposed to religion unless people make it so," Miller said. "The message of evolution is that we are just as Genesis told us, we are made out of the dust of the Earth and that we are united in this web of life with every other living creature on the planet, and I think that's a fairly grand notion."

DivineRightOfManiacs
01-07-2009, 06:15 PM
really?

so that's what Neo-Darwinism preaches, huh?

hardly....this guy is playing games, like so many fools who try to reconcile the Bible with secular philosophy

first off, true evolution has nothing to do with origins, so it has no place in a discussion concerning origins, rather it describes how existing created kinds adapt over time, which is a one way path to extinction

secondly, neo-darwinism absolutely fosters an immoral attitude, because it seeks to make God either a metaphysical concept having no bearing on reality, or disconnected from some slow "millions of years" process...accordingly, God does not interfere supernaturally in the course of human events...that's a very foolish and dangerous philosophyI don't think anyone was trying to "reconcile" the Bible. Life without that collection of fairy tales allows for so much more.

The comments by members are so much more intelligent than anything found here in this place, and 100 times more intelligent than anything you have ever posted, mark.

95whitepep
01-07-2009, 11:33 PM
"the wisdom of God is foolishness to those who are perishing"

Is there anything I can do to help you?

DivineRightOfManiacs
01-08-2009, 10:17 AM
Oh Mark, I just had to report that one.

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