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BATMAN
02-25-2007, 10:20 PM
My buddy lives in a condo and due to the lack of garage space, his days of parking the NSX in the guest parking space finally caught up to him.

No accidents, 39,000 miles.

Black on black.

$24,000

I've always loved the fit and finish of the NSX (and most Honda/Acura models).

The FD is faster, and handles better.

Pics coming soon after I finish moving from my house (sold it recently).

ComradeGiant
02-25-2007, 10:57 PM
Nice!

I've always wanted one of those. Not the fastest, not the most luxurious, but the best all around package.

Thats a pretty good price too, they still tend to fetch in the low $30k's last I checked.

SpartanTS
02-25-2007, 11:21 PM
POST SOME PICS!

There's a black on black NSX running around here. I believe it's a late 90's model. Great looking car.

BATMAN
02-26-2007, 09:15 AM
What's nice about the NSX is that through the years very little has changed.

It really comes down to mileage and condition.

I parked both cars next to each other and they are similar and yet different.

The FD looks muscular, and the NSX has more of the exotic mid-engine lines with a wedge shape.

Cosby
02-26-2007, 10:59 AM
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=217886933&dealer_id=59591759&car_year=1991&search_type=both&num_records=&keywordsfyc=&make=ACURA&transmission=&model=NSX&distance=0&make2=&address=29303&default_sort=priceDESC&advanced=&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=20000&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&body_code=0&end_year=2007&keywordsrep=&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&engine=&fuel=&doors=&style_flag=1&cardist=589

jhammons01
02-26-2007, 11:35 AM
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=217886933&dealer_id=59591759&car_year=1991&search_type=both&num_records=&keywordsfyc=&make=ACURA&transmission=&model=NSX&distance=0&make2=&address=29303&default_sort=priceDESC&advanced=&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=20000&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&body_code=0&end_year=2007&keywordsrep=&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&engine=&fuel=&doors=&style_flag=1&cardist=589
Jeez, only 220K "pampered" miles.

Nice find Batman, I thought those things were faster than what you described.

BATMAN
02-26-2007, 12:25 PM
I don't feel the TQ of the FD twins kicking in.

The power is smooth to redline with a slight jump when VTEC kicks in.

But keep in mind that this is the first gen VTEC. The newer VTEC, like the S2000 kicks in more violently as if you have turbos.

Steering on the FD is better. The NSX steering wheel is narrower and has more play.

Shifting is about the same.

NSX has more usable trunk space where it's deep enough to house grocery bags.

Better MPG on the NSX. I heard 25MPG on the freeway.

I haven't tracked it myself since I'm still learning how to drive the car to the limits and the gadgets.

I do love the Traction Control System on it. It's bailed me out a few times in the rain. The TCS can be switched completely off, unlike some other cars where it's "off" will still kick in if u really fuck up bad.

jhammons01
02-26-2007, 02:33 PM
The power is smooth to redline with a slight jump when VTEC kicks in..
What was that quote???????

VTEC all the lag without the Turbo?? hahhahahahhaa got that from a Honda forum

Say No To Pistons
02-26-2007, 03:05 PM
You're going to keep two jap rockets?

"The FD is faster, and handles better. "

I've always assumed that the NSX handled better than the FD.

aznpoopy
02-26-2007, 04:29 PM
pics or ban!

beefhole
02-26-2007, 06:58 PM
That's great, Batman. Congratulations. Get us some pics!

J_R
02-26-2007, 07:26 PM
put a wing on it yet?

R281
02-26-2007, 10:27 PM
Pics?

Say No To Pistons
02-26-2007, 10:30 PM
put a wing on it yet?
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/anotherqx4/bat2.jpg




http://www.theforumlounge.com/showthread.php?t=7895&highlight=nsx

jhammons01
02-26-2007, 11:11 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/anotherqx4/bat2.jpg

You forgot the screaming kid
http://www.justinbuist.org/blog/images/screaming_kid.jpg
Holy Shit!! I typed in "Screaming Kid" in Google Images and that is what popped up.

Cosby
02-27-2007, 01:52 AM
get me some pics for my body kit site :)

BATMAN
02-27-2007, 09:40 AM
You're going to keep two jap rockets?

"The FD is faster, and handles better. "

I've always assumed that the NSX handled better than the FD.

The FD is lighter and has better weight distribution.

Why would it handle better?

Both cars have superb suspension technology.

BATMAN
02-27-2007, 09:41 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/anotherqx4/bat2.jpg




http://www.theforumlounge.com/showthread.php?t=7895&highlight=nsx


That's the car that I bought.

aznpoopy
02-27-2007, 11:38 AM
The FD is lighter and has better weight distribution.


i never figured out the weight on the nsx. its got an aluminum chassis and seats 2, yet somehow it manages to come in over 3000 lbs.

BATMAN
02-27-2007, 11:55 AM
The NSX is loaded with luxury items like sound deadening, bigger and heavier seats, it's a longer (by about a foot in the back) and wider.

A little shorter.

More glass is used.

My buddy that sold me the car is going to take pics of it before I raise the height (wheel is rubbing in the wheel well and the bottom is catching) and powder coat my rims black.

Should I install a big fat spoiler on the back?

R281
02-27-2007, 12:46 PM
No

Say No To Pistons
02-27-2007, 03:19 PM
The NSX is loaded with luxury items like sound deadening, bigger and heavier seats, it's a longer (by about a foot in the back) and wider.

A little shorter.

More glass is used.

My buddy that sold me the car is going to take pics of it before I raise the height (wheel is rubbing in the wheel well and the bottom is catching) and powder coat my rims black.

Should I install a big fat spoiler on the back?
Sure. The NSX looks better with a spoiler because the middle of the ass top (i don't know what it's called) is dented in.

Looks sex.
http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/data/508/medium/NSX_MU_SPOILER_002.jpg

NSX-R spoiler.

http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/exterior_performance_products/NSX/Procar/NSXR_spoiler/nsxr_spoiler_450.jpg
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/exterior_performance_products/NSX/Procar/NSXR_spoiler/rearspoiler%5B1%5D.jpg
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/exterior_performance_products/NSX/Procar/NSXR_spoiler/134-3436_IMG.JPG
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/exterior_performance_products/NSX/Procar/NSXR_spoiler/NSXR-factory.jpg


Replica
http://downforce.biz/dumpster/nsx_wing1.jpg
Not exactly big but hey, they look good.

This doesn't look bad either! probably because it won't look like a rice mobile since it looks fast/exotic.
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images2/otc2003_thill_flamemobile2.jpg

BATMAN
02-27-2007, 03:21 PM
http://www.theforumlounge.com/d/12901-1/nsx2.gif
http://www.theforumlounge.com/d/12899-1/nsx1.gif

Say No To Pistons
02-27-2007, 03:34 PM
Repost.


This NSX looks great
http://blog.gtroc.com/dino/rn1.jpg

Same NSX with wing removed.
http://blog.gtroc.com/dino/rn6.jpg
http://blog.gtroc.com/dino/rn5.jpg
Nooooice


yeah batty, you need a bigger wing. Your NSX looks empty back there with that tiny spoiler.
http://www.taita.co.jp/products/taitec/aero.html

BATMAN
02-27-2007, 03:44 PM
I was looking at this wing that is suppose to bolt in the stock holes:

http://www.aprperformance.com/images/zoom/CEKPPW/CRW_8996.jpg

http://www.aprperformance.com/images/zoom/CEKPPW/CRW_8982.jpg

ComradeGiant
02-27-2007, 03:47 PM
The NSX is one of the few cars I would actually leave alone, body wise.

BATMAN
02-27-2007, 04:00 PM
since that spoiler is purported to bolt in factory holes I'd consider it.

Say No To Pistons
02-27-2007, 04:05 PM
The NSX is one of the few cars I would actually leave alone, body wise.
This widebody NSX looks nice.
http://www.nsxprime.com/photopost/data/500/4319nsx01.jpg
http://www.nsxprime.com/photopost/data/500/4319nsx03.jpg

The mirrors look like crap though. I'd prefer the stock mirrors since they look quite fancy on the doors (same with the FD).

Say No To Pistons
02-27-2007, 04:06 PM
since that spoiler is purported to bolt in factory holes I'd consider it.
Does teh factory spoiler bolt right onto the chassis or just the trunk lid?

BATMAN
02-27-2007, 04:14 PM
not sure, still haven't studied that.

i would be giving up the LED lights

jimlab
02-27-2007, 04:28 PM
The FD is lighter and has better weight distribution.

Why would it handle better?

Both cars have superb suspension technology.Motor Trend, July 1993...

http://www.theforumlounge.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2007&stc=1&d=1172615280

Say No To Pistons
02-27-2007, 04:32 PM
We need a pic of the two nigerians together.

BATMAN
02-27-2007, 04:43 PM
perhaps this weekend.

Terrh
02-27-2007, 04:43 PM
wow, supra pwnt. Surprsing considering the heft of it!

I've always loved the NSX, I'll have one one day.

got my FD, just need the NSX now. lol.

that $8500 one with high miles is a pretty good deal.

Cosby
03-02-2007, 12:07 PM
wow, the supra is a lot better. I should sell my sex machine and buy a jelly bean.

Alex-7
03-02-2007, 12:17 PM
Camry


Dayaaam! never mind then :bigthumb:

BATMAN
03-02-2007, 03:19 PM
both can be had for about the same price (mid to high 20s), my friend picked up a '93 NSX in black like alain's for 22k a few years ago

and, again, my FD will smoke both of them

How many miles did his NSX have?

The NSX is great for what it delivers: 25MPG, reliable, decent overall performance, and luxury all rolled into a much sexier body than the other reliable car from japan..... the SupDawg.

SpartanTS
03-02-2007, 07:31 PM
both can be had for about the same price (mid to high 20s), my friend picked up a '93 NSX in black like alain's for 22k a few years ago

and, again, my FD will smoke both of them

What does it matter that your FD will smoke them both? Batman has an FD that'll smoke his NSX. You don't see him boasting about it.

Speed isn't everything.

BATMAN
03-05-2007, 09:43 AM
What does it matter that your FD will smoke them both? Batman has an FD that'll smoke his NSX. You don't see him boasting about it.

Speed isn't everything.

Amen.

I've always wanted a NSX, but wasn't in the market yet. However, this rare deal couldn't be passed on.

The FD and NSX are the sexiest cars IMHO to come outta Japan, ever.

Both handle.

Both are about the same in speed in stock form.

But the FD is more of a true sports car - lighter, 50/50~ weight dist., etc...

NSX has sports, MPG, more trunk space, reliabilty, full luxury all rolled into one car.

SpartanTS
03-05-2007, 10:41 AM
It's somewhere around 3100lbs.

It's the best mix between a sports car and a Grand Tourer.

BATMAN
03-05-2007, 11:01 AM
interesting, I always considered the NSX the purist sports car

what's the dry weight again?

Not sure, but I heard that the earlier ones were right around the same as the FD.

Kudos for the FD in making a lighter car with heavier metal.

As a matter of fact, since I raised the NSX height (by 1/2") I think I'll take it to a weight station.... FD too, and post both car's wet weights.

BATMAN
03-05-2007, 11:03 AM
It's somewhere around 3100lbs.

It's the best mix between a sports car and a Grand Tourer.

I know that the earlier ones are lighter for a few reasons:

1. 3.0 engine vs. the later 3.2
2. Earlier models didn't have power steering

Also, some of the later ones have Targa and required structural reinforcement for the chassis.

Brief research shows that and the 2 reasons could be a delta of 300lbs~

ComradeGiant
03-05-2007, 12:46 PM
interesting, I always considered the NSX the purist sports car

what's the dry weight again?

It is by European standards.

Compared with the FD, its a Caddy.

BATMAN
03-05-2007, 04:42 PM
The part that really reminds you that you are in a Honda is the sound of the starter.

It sounds like a Honda Civic.

It's the part of the car that resonates economy.

SpartanTS
03-05-2007, 10:34 PM
The part that really reminds you that you are in a Honda is the sound of the starter.

It sounds like a Honda Civic.

It's the part of the car that resonates economy.

I never liked the way Honda V6's sound.

ComradeGiant
03-06-2007, 12:27 AM
My 91 Camry V6 was awesome. It laid the smack down much.

BATMAN
03-06-2007, 09:11 AM
OK.

Last night I weighed both cars at the same scale (had to drive home to swap cars).

Both cars had a fuel tank of gas.

NSX 3210lbs

FD 2960lbs (that's with the double decker, subwoofer, amp, and probably 25lbs of stuff in my glove box, and compartment bins).

BATMAN
03-06-2007, 10:16 AM
Oops. Forgot about that.

FD had A/C removed, got DP and resonated MP.

Greddy SMIC and N-flow KOYO radiator will add weight.

Addco sway bars definately add weight since they are solid steel and thicker.

Coil overs reduced weight.

Shit, this is maddening. I lose some weight and gain else where.

BATMAN
03-07-2007, 12:54 PM
how are you running a resonated MP in eco-paranoid CA?

2960 seems high

Surprisingly, no cop's noticed the global warming behind me.

I think the double decker is the distraction.

Besides the exhaust is pulled straight up and over their heads at speeds.......

ComradeGiant
03-07-2007, 01:56 PM
Don't take that car to LA, they'll nail you for sure down there.

The Bay Area tends not to give a shit because the smog all gets blown to Sacramento through the delta.

Say No To Pistons
03-07-2007, 02:53 PM
Pics of them together?

vel525
03-07-2007, 04:10 PM
Pics of them together?

+1

congrats on the new car.
any immediate mods planned?

BATMAN
03-07-2007, 04:52 PM
+1

congrats on the new car.
any immediate mods planned?


thanks.

thinking about doing black wheels.

got my Moroso Spiral Flow muffler to weld on.

Headers, Test pipe, K&N replacement are at the top of the list....

SpartanTS
03-07-2007, 08:03 PM
you don't get big gains with N/A bolt-ons like you do with the FD...it's more for show/sound

maybe 10-15 hp

Which is probably the case with most Hondas.

I had a pair of Preludes (88/91) and both had I/H/E. Bolt ons yielded an extra 13 HP. Hardly worth the money, that's for sure.

Fun cars though, especially my 4WS model.

BATMAN
03-07-2007, 08:49 PM
you don't get big gains with N/A bolt-ons like you do with the FD...it's more for show/sound

maybe 10-15 hp

Intake, full exhaust is good for about 25HP....... of course near redline - typical VTEC.

SpartanTS
03-07-2007, 11:23 PM
it's amazing to think a 2007 Camry will essentially match the power output of a '93 NSX :)



An NSX puts down its power in a much nicer fashion, through the rear wheels.

ComradeGiant
03-07-2007, 11:46 PM
it's amazing to think a 2007 Camry will essentially match the power output of a '93 NSX :)

more...in the Lexus IS350

I think the amazing part is that a 2007 Camry will cost about the same as a 93 NSX...

Used cars that hold their value are funny.

BATMAN
03-08-2007, 09:31 AM
it's amazing to think a 2007 Camry will essentially match the power output of a '93 NSX :)

more...in the Lexus IS350

3.5-liter DOHC 24-valve
Dual VVT-i V6
268 hp @ 6200 rpm/
248 lb.-ft. @ 4700 rpm

Considering that the Camry took how many years to get to that HP level when compared to an engine that debut in '91, it's embarassing for Toyota.

Look at their Supdawg. 2 turbos to get it to beat the NSX.

Also, ur comparing a larger engine to the NSX.

Why stop there and start with the 997 GT3 H6 engine or the E46 M3?

Bottom line is that the Camry is a fucking appliance with 4 wheels.

BATMAN
03-08-2007, 10:46 AM
huh?

I hope you aware of how much the NSX sold for new??

there is no point in comparing the NSX to the camry.

TOTALLY different audience.

U really should stop, since ur sounding like some kid in a Civic weapon R....

ComradeGiant
03-08-2007, 01:32 PM
huh?

I hope you aware of how much the NSX sold for new??

Yes, but I'm not talking about new.

I'm talking about average market price for a 93 NSX now.

BATMAN
03-08-2007, 03:44 PM
Mark, considering that the car is 14 years old, it held it's value better than 90% of the cars that started out in that price range like a 750 BMW.

Why? It has many of the features and benefits that many people are looking for rolled into one package.

Decent power
Handling
MPG
usable trunk
luxury
reliable

FD has over 250k miles
NSX just broke 40k miles

NSX has no rattles or squeaks, even on rough surfaces in stiff setting. Sounds very solid, like a 3 series BMW or other decent german car.

Forward visibility is the best in any car.

BATMAN
03-08-2007, 04:07 PM
I know.

That's why when u were bragging about ur friend getting his for $22k and 75k~ miles, I thought u had bible for breakfast. ;)

BATMAN
03-08-2007, 04:09 PM
I talked to people looking for NSXs and many NSX have been in an accident.

Unlike steel, aluminum will fatigue, rendering much of the chassis to a useless heap with a rather simple bump.

BATMAN
03-08-2007, 05:42 PM
I've seen really great condition and low miles ones go for $50k

My friend had a 2000 model.

The NSX-S Zero is purported to do high 12's at 109~MPH.

So much for a Slow POS NA car that still sips gas, don't break down, handles and looks sexy.

If I like this NSX, and feel a need for more power, I might sell it and get a 97+ model.

BATMAN
03-09-2007, 09:40 AM
I have those pics on my gallery already.

Also, the improved version of that concept in drawing.

However, it appears that the new NSX will be 450HP front engine v8 that might be in the $150k range.

$150k jap car = $300k european car. And the jap car will always win in electronic widgets and in most cases (esp Acura's) Ergonomics.

91lx
03-09-2007, 11:30 AM
Saw 5 NSXs in the past few days since I read this thread. Guess I never paid much attention. Red is a pretty bad color on them imo. The black looks good.

BATMAN
03-09-2007, 02:45 PM
This is what I've learned so far about FD and NSX guys.

FD guys are more technical, espcially ones that do some serious mods like V8 conversions.

NSX guys think their car is the Ferrari. Bunch of garage queens.

There are the newer generation of NSX folks that buy the older NSXs for actual usage.

Alex-7
03-09-2007, 02:48 PM
what cracks me up is the guys who drive them think they are so badass :roll:


It cracks me up that you think you're so badass :roll:

Say No To Pistons
03-09-2007, 03:13 PM
It cracks me up that you think you're so badass :roll:
Don't hate. When he's in his FD, he's invincible. He can speed away from anything when shit gets deep.

Manntis
03-09-2007, 03:28 PM
sounds about right....the car is an obvious rip-off of Ferrari....japs are skilled refiners, they never invent anything, they are not creative

Man, do you ever talk out of your ass at times.

Before the NSX, Ferrarris were notoriously unreliable garage queens that were lucky to go 2,000 kms without a trip to the mechanics, their ergonomics and visibility sucked, and they were hugely overpriced.

Specifically because the Japanese (and now the Koreans) were able to engineer lightweight, ergo friendly cars that happened to look great and go fast, while being comfortable enough to be daily drivers, that other 'supercar' manufacturers had to play catch-up in a hurry.

And that's just specifically high-dollar performance cars. Show me an American or European company that comes close to Honda's work with bipedal robotics. Or Mazda's fender kerfing technology. Or precision panel gaps that you can't fit a piece of paper between, while American manufacturing techniques often result in gaps you could fling a scared cat through.

And how many successful American compact cars were there? The Big Three fell into a habit of buying Asian cars and rebadging them, because domestic attempts at same didn't use the higher quality precise manufacturing and assembly techniques.

Sometimes it was as simple as planning. When GM partnered with Toyota, they proudly showed of their multimillion-dollar robotic sleds that took sheets of metal from the storage racks, half way across the huge factory to the dies, and loaded them in for stamping. The GM execs asked the Toyota boys what they thought, expecting praise and delight. instead they heard "In our factories, we store the sheets next the to dies. Saves time and money."

BATMAN
03-09-2007, 03:32 PM
sounds about right....the car is an obvious rip-off of Ferrari....japs are skilled refiners, they never invent anything, they are not creative


until the FD came along.

Then again vettes ripped off the FD for the C5 and the C6 has 360-like headlights.

BATMAN
03-09-2007, 03:34 PM
NSX and Supra are supposed to emulate the F40.......

Manntis
03-09-2007, 04:25 PM
now you're a Ferrari expert, too?? :roll:

As someone who actually worked as vehicle and weapnos engineer for 8 years - and currently making a documentary with execs at GM, Lotus, and Scaled Composites, I know the difference between Ferrari and Honda manufacturing techniques. And boy, you've got it backwards.

So the NSX, as a mid engined car, resembles some other mid-engined cars. And? The Dodge omni resembles the VW Golf. Gonna say the US do nothing but immitate Germans?

I know you can't help yourself, but try to pull your head at least part way out of your ass.

Manntis
03-09-2007, 06:21 PM
hey stupid, when I did ever say ANYTHING about Honda vs. Ferrari manufacturing?

you strongly implied it here:

the car is an obvious rip-off of Ferrari....japs are skilled refiners, they never invent anything, they are not creative

and the fact is, there's a lot more to cars than what you see. Many cars resemble the configuration of other cars by other marques. By your logic, any three-box is a ripoff of any other three-box.

why do make up tangential arguments just like psycho jonnie?

:rofl:

...this from the guy that uses the 'quote' function to make up statements so he can type 'agree', and builds more straw men than a wicker souvenir shop.

Manntis
03-09-2007, 11:24 PM
Show me the Ferrari the NSX is supposedly 'ripping off'. Many three-box mids look similar - it's the packaging constraints. But the one Batman mentioned, the F-40, is a two-box... totally different config.

beefhole
03-09-2007, 11:34 PM
*sigh*
Honda ripped off the Ferrari body style to come up with the NSX...

FAIL!
Honda made the NSX to "fuck you" Ferrari (which they DID!).
But we'll get to that in a sec. What Ferrari did they rip off?
I'll answer that: NONE
They made the NSX because the 348 was trash and the NSX was 10x the car with hardly the cost. They succeeded there (maybe that's what you wanted). Other than that, the NSX certainly had it's own design which one could argue still holds to this day ( I think so too). It never ripped off any Ferrari. Not even close, nor visa versa.

beefhole
03-09-2007, 11:47 PM
Before the NSX, Ferrarris were notoriously unreliable garage queens that were lucky to go 2,000 kms without a trip to the mechanics, their ergonomics and visibility sucked, and they were hugely overpriced.

OK to respond again...
Visibility sucked? Don't know what you mean... looking at the car (DON'T THINK SO). Looking out of the car? Those who have driven it say it's like a jet fighter cockpit....
What do you expect? Ferrari is overpriced because historically they always were that way (to make the company money). Back in the day, they were balls out race cars, sold to the rich (when the season was over) to supply the factory with money to make better race cars. Ah the vicious cycle. :) Unreliable? didn't Colin Chapman say something along the lines of "if a race car breaks down after it crosses the finish line it has done its job"? Something like that... Anyway I digress. Tell me what car is reliable straight from the factory that is driven balls out the instant the buyer acquires it. Of course the Ferrari breaks down after 1500 miles when the owner redlines EVERY gear and only drives it 12x a year. These cars have titanium connecting rods, precision machined aluminum heads, blah blah blah. If anything they are built balls out. But who wants to let that motor break in? Would you go buck nutter on a brand new boosted rotary? NO! Then again does any performance car/engine last a terribly long time?

skydivr7673
03-10-2007, 09:30 AM
blah, blah...you're a moron

is the NSX a great car? yes...that was NEVER my point...my point was it does borrow from Ferrari and was very obviously heavily influenced by their design, in terms of the styling of the car

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NSX
Despite the NSX's current age, it still has a strong base of fans and supporters. Honda and majority of car enthusiasts describe the NSX as a supercar based on its styling, body type, drivetrain layout, packaging, and most especially in the area of car handling. Few others have disagreed, claiming the NSX does not qualify for exotic car/supercar status because it's not of European origin and is not powerful enough compared to today's newer offerings, although its 270 rated horsepower at debut in 1990 was only 30 horses shy of the 300 lbs. heavier Ferrari 348, NSX's direct rival. Because of its lighter weight, the NSX was slightly faster than the 348 in straight-line acceleration. Still, for a time, it sported the highest per-litre specific output of any road-going naturally aspirated V6 in the world and is exceptionally fast for the motor's relatively low power output versus comparable "supercars". Post-1997 3.2 liter North American Acura examples are commonly known to achieve a 13.3 second quarter-mile time (1997-2005 model year NSX-T; The 149 lbs. lighter Zanardi Edition NSX is closer to 13 sec. flat), while the Japanese NSX-R (2002+) is known to perform 12.8 second quarter-mile time. The surprising performance is due mostly to a high 8,000 rpm redline, flat power curve, short gears, and mid-engine layout.

just because it calls the 348 "NSX's direct rival", how does that prove that Acura borrowed anything from Ferarri? The Camry's direct rival is the Honda Accord. Show me how much of the Camry came from the accord. Camry has other direct rivals--like the Ford Fusion. Not many similarities there either. Or the Nissan Altima....again, not so. Come on--we're talking exotics here--this isnt like the family car class where you have so many options to choose from. How many carmakers were directly competing with Ferarri in 1991?

Then again, you constantly cry about people using wikipedia as a source for anything....until you use it yourself.

A quick look at pics of each car show a distinct lack of similarities. The NSX has a taller appearance, with the cockpit area looking almost like it was placed on top of the car. The 348 has the cockpit much further back and it looks more swept into the design. The 348's rear quarter windows are nowhere to be found on the NSX. When you look at the two cars there is at best a vague similarity.

Normality_Glitch
03-10-2007, 02:39 PM
To put this back on track, I think your NSX looks great. I also think your FD looks great. I've always loved the idea of having a supercharged NSX for daily driving purposes. I'll probably never even consider buying one unless I just become super rich some day, but man they are some great cars with a total package when it comes to luxury, performance, styling, etc. etc.

Manntis
03-10-2007, 07:34 PM
OK to respond again...
Visibility sucked? Don't know what you mean... looking at the car (DON'T THINK SO). Looking out of the car? Those who have driven it say it's like a jet fighter cockpit....

Can you see well out of the back of a jet fighter? ;)

But really, yes - Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Loti, etc. were ontorious for poor rearward visibility. The NSX has excellent all-round visibility by comparison.

What do you expect? Ferrari is overpriced because historically they always were that way (to make the company money). Back in the day, they were balls out race cars, sold to the rich (when the season was over) to supply the factory with money to make better race cars.

No kidding. But their premiums on low-end Ferraris shrunk noticeably after the Asians began producing high dollar, high performance vehicles.



Unreliable? didn't Colin Chapman say something along the lines of "if a race car breaks down after it crosses the finish line it has done its job"?

And NSXes are daily drivers, not race cars. So are Ferraris, but prior to the early 90's Ferraris broke down so often you'd think they were race cars. Starting to see it now?

Your point?

Tell me what car is reliable straight from the factory that is driven balls out the instant the buyer acquires it. Of course the Ferrari breaks down after 1500 miles when the owner redlines EVERY gear and only drives it 12x a year.

Now you're changing the argument. Who said they're unreliable specifically if redlined when new? Ferraris were unreliable no matter how long you owned them, or how much they were babied early in their 'lives'.

beefhole
03-10-2007, 10:38 PM
blah, blah...you're a moron


Fucking hopeless!

Manntis
03-10-2007, 10:55 PM
Hey, I just re-read my previous post. Sorry for the confrontational tone.

BATMAN
03-10-2007, 11:07 PM
*sigh*......japs don't invent, they refine....I agree their manufacturing is first rate

until the FD came along.

Then again vettes ripped off the FD for the C5 and the C6 has 360-like headlights.

until the FD came along.

Then again vettes ripped off the FD for the C5 and the C6 has 360-like headlights.


until the FD came along.

Then again vettes ripped off the FD for the C5 and the C6 has 360-like headlights.

until the FD came along.

Then again vettes ripped off the FD for the C5 and the C6 has 360-like headlights.

until the FD came along.

Then again vettes ripped off the FD for the C5 and the C6 has 360-like headlights.

skydivr7673
03-11-2007, 01:59 PM
admission of defeat, you were :owned:

FAIL!!

why dont you tell everyone again, speaking of defeat, about the deposit you put down on that Camry? You know, the one you claimed to have changed your mind on, and then switched to the Sky? No, wait, back to the Camry, right? Nevermind the fact that you put down a huge chunk on a Camry, then put down a deposit on a Sky, then put down a deposit on a Camry again??

http://www.skyroadster.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11999

I threw a refundable deposit on it just to be sure someone doesn't snap it up

I think it's really funny that you run around lying your ass off about what car you spend money on for whatever reason. Who are you trying to impress anyways? Hey, you shoulda bought that ragtop instead....at least then you could have an excuse to tell the ladies about where all your hair went...

:owned:

BATMAN
03-12-2007, 12:50 PM
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25105&d=1141947314

Say No To Pistons
03-12-2007, 02:14 PM
Those look like gauges off a honda civic :rofl: .

BATMAN
03-12-2007, 02:16 PM
yeah, another thing about the NSX that bothers me are those gauges.

FDs don't look like other Mazdas, inside and out.

ComradeGiant
03-12-2007, 03:35 PM
in So Cal, where high end sports cars are a dime-a-dozen, you must get chuckles from the Porsche/Ferrari crowd


Strangely even those douchebags show respect to the NSX.

Its when you hit Napa, Malibu and Carlsbad and get into Zonda/Lambo/F1 territory that people start to chuckle.

BATMAN
03-12-2007, 03:44 PM
in So Cal, where high end sports cars are a dime-a-dozen, you must get chuckles from the Porsche/Ferrari crowd

here in Charlotte, an NSX would still turn some heads, although I do see a few of them around

I heard that So-Cal and Florida are pretty darn close.

But I live in Nor Cal, where a multi-millionaire would rather get a fat house and a Prius....

BATMAN
03-12-2007, 04:25 PM
um, I'm still in my hood, just not my house.

Los Altos, not Los Angeles.

Terrh
03-13-2007, 01:35 AM
170MPH at only 4500RPM?

I call shenanigans.

ComradeGiant
03-13-2007, 02:40 PM
Ever seen 5th gear on an NSX?

That has to be one of the biggest overdrives ever.

Say No To Pistons
03-13-2007, 02:49 PM
170MPH at only 4500RPM?

I call shenanigans.
Stock speedo's can be off at much as 30 mph, especially with aftermarket rims/tires.

Manntis
03-13-2007, 05:31 PM
+ or - 9%.

To be off by 30mph, you'd have to be approaching 300mph.

IHI
03-13-2007, 06:39 PM
I've always wondered where people go to open up their cars to that extreme.....

There is a fine piece of I5 just north of LA after coming down from the tejon pass. Straight as can be, and smooth. There is an old truck trailer parked by the freeway with a sign painted on it that reads:

"Speeders: 1347 licenses taken here last year"

:)

Terrh
03-14-2007, 02:16 AM
I suppose it's possible, but I suspect either the speedo is off, or the clutch pedal was pressed before the picture was taken... that would be like, 1300rpm at 50mph... possible, sure- but why the hell would they do that to a car that revs to 8k?

ComradeGiant
03-14-2007, 01:02 PM
Because thats what the other four gears are for?

BATMAN
03-29-2007, 09:20 AM
After seeing these pics of an all blacked out F40, I've decided that the NSX will be all black as well.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/ELIMpics/1149bz.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/ELIMpics/fgfg0uy.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/ELIMpics/f40.jpg

Say No To Pistons
03-29-2007, 06:59 PM
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/nsx/nsx_20050729_003.jpg

Werddd

aznpoopy
03-29-2007, 08:45 PM
you and your black cars. throw some color in your life! cmon!

ComradeGiant
03-29-2007, 08:48 PM
There are some cars that just look good in black. Any of the exotics, for example.

BATMAN
03-30-2007, 11:26 AM
My truck is not Ebony...

2ndGen.Rocket
04-08-2007, 12:35 PM
I like the reaffirming argument that everyone who owns an FD makes. "The style is truly timeless, these cars never age!"
Right.......
FD's look like a sportscar from the 90's. Sorry, they look just as old as anything else from that era. Shit, Batty's NSX looks a hell of alot nicer and more modern than most FD's do.

BATMAN
04-08-2007, 12:55 PM
Well, the interior and exterior of the FD is more organic.

They've done a great job at that too,

There are alot of cars that have organic lines and they look fugly, like Taurus back in the day.

NSX interior dates it more than the exterior. More 90's.

But the NSX has a superb fit and finish...... considering that it's a heavier car with lighter materials....

2ndGen.Rocket
04-08-2007, 09:34 PM
you're on serious crack....and essentially no one agrees with you

then again, your opinions about music are equally jacked up

You mean the people who own FD's don't agree with me? There's alot more people in the "no one" crowd than that select minority. It looks like a 90's car, inside and out.


And my opinions about music are educated, and encompass all genres. Your opinions examine musical jokes like Whitesnake and Warrant. Give me a break.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-08-2007, 09:41 PM
the NSX screams 90s, I know several long time car guys (not fresh out of school like some people), who hold the same opinion

those same guys love the FD


So you're saying that these long term car guys who lived through the 90's are better able to identify something as looking like it's from the era, than someone is who lived through the 90's as well? Are you sure you aren't just making yourself feel better about owning a 90's sports car? I mean, that's great and all, but it doesn't look new. It closely resembles an MX-6 in fact, and that doesn't look new either. I know several people who AREN'T car guys, and they would agree that the FD looks like an older car from the 90's as opposed to a newly styled vehicle. I think that says alot more.

ComradeGiant
04-08-2007, 10:58 PM
The FD looks like a glorified Taurus.

Which isn't bad, but is very VERY 90s.

BATMAN
04-09-2007, 10:23 AM
http://www.moroso.com/catalog/images/94050_group.jpg

Pics and sound clips will be up between my busy schedule.

Factory muffler was cut out and the polished stainless steel version were installed for each of the 3 cyclinder banks.

Mufflers weighed in at 1600grams a piece. They are small enough to be tucked in to minimize drag and scraping.

I had a feeling that it would have a unique sound since the chambers are split and rejoined.

As you can see in the above illustration, one goes straight through and the other is a spiral.

Butt dyno feels a little more power, probably from a combination of less weight and free-flowing mufflers.

The sound is very unique. No other NSX muffler system sounds like it.

At first I was worried if running 1 muffler for each of the 3-cyclinders will make it sound like a car with 2 civic engines.

But it has a very agressive sound to it that's hard to describe in words.

At idle it not too bad.

At WOT it sounds like a track prepped car with more cyclinders.

I plan on ordering a set of 4zoomers.com tips to complete the finished look, enhanced sound (I've used these tips on both the FD and truck with great results) and a tad quieter cabin experience.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-09-2007, 11:39 AM
*shakes head*

ah well....some people think Harleys look better than an R1, too (some people have zero sense of aesthetics)


No, some people are just smart enough to not compare an American cruiser to a Japanese crotch rocket. They are two completely different styles of bikes.

Steel
04-09-2007, 07:05 PM
doesn't matter if they are different styles, some people honestly think are Harley looks better (i.e. is aestheticcally pleasing to the eye)!

it's like comparing an F-16 to a float plane or a playboy model to Rosanne Barr

That's dumb. It's more like comparing an F-16 to a P-38. Two totally different yet great planes. I <3 SV1000N's personally, aka streetfighter bikes. Kind of like taking a crotch rocket, mating it to a harley and seeing what comes out. A badassed lookin standard bike, none of those silly plastic fairings that the supersports have, including the headlight area, but still having an aggrevice stance and rake, with a race-bred 90* v-twin motor. Not a 45* potato motor. Yeah. I forgot my point... oh yeah.... You're wrong.

beefhole
04-09-2007, 08:35 PM
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/ELIMpics/f40.jpg

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but ZOMG-buttseks-nekked-pics, that is a 288GTO, F40 and F50 :D

Steel
04-10-2007, 07:35 AM
or perhaps you are
noooo.... I think the consensus here is that you are the dumb one.



that isn't the criteria...the criteria is which one looks better

Yes it is you retard, YOU'RE the one that brought airplanes up in the first place. A lot of people would say the old warplanes look better than the new ones. F-16 to a float plane? Your obvious anti-harely bias is showing.



are you still in jr. high? geez, drop the mindless adjectives
:rolleyes:

the bodywork on modern sportbikes is functional (aerodynamics) and improves the look of the machine imo...a bone stock '04-'05 ZX-10 is still one of the best looking bikes on the road

Exactly in YOUR OPINION. In MINE, I think seeing the motor and all of the spinny bits looks better. The aerodynamics are important to racers trying to shave thousandths of seconds off their laptimes, not squids like you trying to look cool and tough standing in a hole next to their bike, while rarely going north of 100mph.

skydivr7673
04-10-2007, 11:56 AM
doesn't matter if they are different styles, some people honestly think are Harley looks better (i.e. is aestheticcally pleasing to the eye)!

it's like comparing an F-16 to a float plane or a playboy model to Rosanne Barr

youre a moron

The harley is not a sport bike, comparing it to one is comparing, as he already told you, two different styles entirely. Just like the "F-16 to a float plane" analogy, where you failed also.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the NSX and the FD were both designed as sports cars. And this discussion has turned into a sort of comparing these two sports cars.....because of that, you compare an F-16 fighter plane to a.....float plane.....and a harley street bike....to a.....crotch rocket....hmm, yeah....you are made of fail once again.

that isn't the criteria...the criteria is which one looks better

Well, Mr. Wizard, his criteria were much closer than yours...comparing two sports cars and comparing two fighter planes....as opposed to a fighter jet and a float plane?!?!? You really are that ignorant, arent ya??

the bodywork on modern sportbikes is functional (aerodynamics) and improves the look of the machine imo...a bone stock '04-'05 ZX-10 is still one of the best looking bikes on the road

Functional, my ass....as already mentioned to you, that "functional" bit only applies at much higher speeds. The average bike owner isnt going to be going 140 mph....I think it is safe to say that you dont, because at that speed, the spray-on powder stuff that you use to look like you arent losing your hair would blow right off, even while wearing a helmet....Harley Davidsons, with no aerodynamic fairing and weighing more than a crotch rocket, will still hit more than 100 mph easily....so much for how functional that plastic is for the average rider. NOW, take it to the track, and yes, it is functional....but for the average rider, it is as functional as a double-decker spoiler on a Honda Civic is.

or a playboy model to Rosanne Barr

...or your blow-up doll to a real live girlfriend, perhaps??

:bigthumb:

ah well....some people think Harleys look better than an R1, too (some people have zero sense of aesthetics)

Again, youre an idiot. Who do you think you are, downing people if they like American power that is visible without the plastic shit in the way? Once more, you are so full of yourself that anyone who doesnt like exactly what you do is....wrong.....get a clue, cue ball

the NSX screams 90s, I know several long time car guys (not fresh out of school like some people), who hold the same opinion

those same guys love the FD

yeah, it does....the FD does at the same time. How many performance cars made today look just like an FD? Any sports cars made today that still use pop-up headlights? Dont even think of telling me that those arent screaming 90s....the NSX and FD are so obviously in the same boat for much of this issue. Both are concepts that do not appear in the 2007 model year. Both are concepts that use features not found in other cars this year. Both of those cars got a good amount of power from engines smaller than what other comparable cars used at the time--where do we see this today? The Vette?? Viper?? Didnt think so. The FD is a hatchback--how many true sports cars made today are hatchbacks?

By the way, when looking at the style of a car in comparison with what is made today, the opinion that a car guy "loves the FD" has no place in the discussion. This isnt a discussion about whic one people love more, you claimed that the NSX was way too dated while the FD isnt.....you failed. Good luck with that, stump chump.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-10-2007, 01:23 PM
^
Exactly.

ComradeGiant
04-10-2007, 06:55 PM
*shakes head*

ah well....some people think Harleys look better than an R1, too (some people have zero sense of aesthetics)

R1's are fucking ugly. They aren't designed to look nice, they are designed to go fast.

They're basically the Lamborghini of motorcycles.

The only nice looking sport bikes are some of the mid-90's Ducati offerings.

skydivr7673
04-11-2007, 10:27 PM
but on the road of life, you're the little piece of dog shit infested with maggots as I roll by on the R1 at 140+ (and I hit those speeds every weekend I ride in Asheville, no problem)

that wouldnt be you admitting to breaking the law, not to mention endangering fellow motorists by acting like a complete bitch on your bike, would it?? Tell me, how are those training wheels holding up at such speeds? Youre the only motorcycle rider I've ever known whose bike has a kickstand with rungs on it.....:asshole:

your crackpot posts grow more predictable and mindless by the day...I'd wheelie right over your head, you couldn't ride a bike to save your life, I've been riding for over 20 years

20 years, huh?? Man, thats a long time....if only you werent so vertically challenged, then you could trade in the Cub 50 for a real ride....So marky, how far can your bike go, you know, before you need to recharge the battery??

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/skydivr7673/markysride.jpg

Let's see you wheelie over my head....when you cant even get your pathetic ass out of the damn ditch.....

NOW, why dont you kindly shut the fuck up with this predictable nonsense and address how badly you got slapped in the nuts over your supposed knowledge of how the world views the NSX and the FD??

:owned:

skydivr7673
04-11-2007, 10:32 PM
nah....I don't know anyone who would say that, and in an honest moment, I doubt you could find someone unless you paid them (just obstinate assholes like yourself who can't admit they're wrong)

sleek....sexy....these qualities are timeless...the hallmark of fighter jets, sportbikes, and great sports cars

bulbous....unpleasing lines....the hallmark of float planes. Harleys, 55 Chevys, and fat chicks

you cares what morons like yourself think about anything? I mean really...does you opinion or psycho jonnie's or the guy who loves rap, do your opinions count for anything?

nope....I simply live in a world of fools

1--you have obviously never been to an airshow...the old fighters always get the biggest crowds.

2--there is not a thing thats "timeless" about a modern jet fighter. Compare it to older jet fighters, and they look nothing alike. Compare the F-16 to what we will have in 40 years and those two wont look alike either. In any event, it's really something that a "true chosen christian" finds something "sexy" that has been designed for the sole purpose of killing people...

3--why is it, when you get your ass handed to you in the topic, you switch gears to a TANGENTAL argument like this? Unless, of course, you think the NSX is a fighter plane now....

ComradeGiant
04-11-2007, 11:21 PM
lol

it's like 10,000 to 1 against you

the R1 is gorgeous, but admittedly it borrows from the original Ducati 916

Which is fine because, even according to you, the average person is an idiot with no taste.

Most motorcycles are ugly as sin, and only a few cars are better.

I'll take a 37 Cord to look at, and an oversized R1 to ride.

skydivr7673
04-12-2007, 06:37 AM
really, the only valid point you made was the pop-up lights, that IS 90s, but the shape of an FD is timeless sex, I've heard many people say that

again, what "many people" take as their opinion does not change FACT, moron. You also claim to catch the eye of "several women", which you claim to be dating, and yet you still find the time, despite your full-time work and busy church life, to post 5-10 times more than anyone else?? Youre an idiot....if you really were dating those women you wouldnt have half the time to post here that you do. So, what "many people" say to you is of no relevance, just like "several women" are of no relevance to your real social life.

Tell me about the FD's taillights....look familiar? Look like anything else on the market?? Why yes, they do--the NINETIES Ford Taurus...the exact same shape....no other car since then uses that design. How many currently produced sports cars are this small? I'm not talking about "sporty" cars--I am talking about true sports cars...Face it--this design has been left in the 90s where it originated. Hey, I like the FD as much as anyone, but you really need to find reality.

the pop-ups are easily remedied..

AHA--but then you are CHANGING THE STYLE....arent ya? You cannot change the style of the car and then say that the style of the original car is "timeless"--if it were really timeless, I suspect that no one would have to change those lights, would they?? You lose this round.

go back to your pos boat anchor thunderbird with the hood scoop

you arent even smart enough to know that the T-Bird doesnt have a "hood scoop", ya fucking idiot.....every time you post your pathetic ignorance shines through. Next time you try to insult someone, perhaps you should try picking something that is grounded in reality just a little bit, it may actually work better.:gay2:

skydivr7673
04-12-2007, 06:39 AM
so what bike do you own jonnie? :roll:

I dont personally mess with bikes anymore....I used to ride a KLR 650, I was more into the off-road stuff. Now I skip the road and just ride your mom instead.:bigthumb:

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 09:02 AM
nah....I don't know anyone who would say that, and in an honest moment, I doubt you could find someone unless you paid them (just obstinate assholes like yourself who can't admit they're wrong)

sleek....sexy....these qualities are timeless...the hallmark of fighter jets, sportbikes, and great sports cars

bulbous....unpleasing lines....the hallmark of float planes. Harleys, 55 Chevys, and fat chicks

you cares what morons like yourself think about anything? I mean really...does you opinion or psycho jonnie's or the guy who loves rap, do your opinions count for anything?

nope....I simply live in a world of fools


What makes you even think that sleek and sexy are the timeless vehicle qualities that everyone loves? Jesus, you really just make shit up and twist it to fit what you believe. Do you know that there is only one automobile in the Louvre? Take a guess at what it is..............acutally I'll just tell you. It's a mid 70's Range Rover, boxy, bulbous, crude, and regarded by the board at the FUCKING LOUVRE as a true piece of automotive art.

You should stop being such a dickhead and maybe listen to people that continually demonstrate to know more than you. You're in a world of fools? Shit. I am better educated than you, make more money than you, and I'm at least 12 years younger than you. You are just hard headed and ignorant, unwilling to listen the opinion of others. Anyone who truly argues that the FD doesn't look like a 90's sports car is making themselves feel better about the fact that their poor ass can't afford something newer.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 10:40 AM
really, asshole? what's your education?

MBA from Wake Forest.



really? how much do you make?

I do small business consulting at $100 an hour right now part time as I finish school. Working for Bank of America starting in May, Global Corporate Investment Banking. I guarantee that my base salary of $105,000 is more than your yearly, and that's before my bonus.



yeah, you're another stupid punk who thinks he knows everything



I'm perfectly willing to listen when someone can express themselves intelligently, not some foul mouthed asshole like yourself...I lost any respect for you a long time ago with your endless perverse rants on rx-club, you're a piece of shit

You realize how funny it is when you call me a "foul mouthed asshole and piece of shit"?



oh here we go, the jimlab style of argument...I never said the FD is the ultimate car, I simply like the way it looks

kiss my ass, dickhead...go back to listening to 50 cent and driving your yellow pos truck :roll:


Thanks I will. I drive a Range Rover now btw.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 10:43 AM
LOL

you're a true piece of shit, a little obnoxious wanna-be prick


Yeah, I didn't think you could form a decent response to that one. I don't think I've ever met someone that hates being wrong as much as you.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 11:01 AM
Of course you can't acknowledge that I am in fact more successful and intelligent than you. You are losing an argument so your only defense is talking about me being younger than you. You do realize that it makes you look even stupider by referencing that I'm 25? It just proves how much more intelligent and successful than you I am.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 11:07 AM
because I'm not wrong, and you're a snot nosed little punk with an MBA :rolleyes:

and why are you boasting about a salary you MIGHT earn? geez what an idiot


Who said "might"? I have officially signed on with BOA, a contract that I will be working for them starting in May. As I said, my bonus will only further my earning. I "might" earn $250,000 if I perform extremely well as a first year associate. I will more likely earn around $160-180. There's no "might" in the fact that I am making an absolute dick ton more cash than you are.

I'll be sure to toss a snotty tissue to you as I drive by in a Carrera 4S next year.

ComradeGiant
04-12-2007, 12:33 PM
LOL

you're a true piece of shit, a little obnoxious wanna-be prick

Actually, though, that quote is true.

The Louvre does consider the Range Rover a piece of art.

Cubists are artists too.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 01:50 PM
LOL

"if....if....IF"

I've heard this same talk from you for quite awhile, I believe you've been out of school for well over a year


There was one "if" in that sentence. I already said what my guaranteed base is, which is more than you make. I'm guaranteed a bonus, however many tens of thousands that is depends on me.

And you believe wrong. See YZF? You rely on what you think you know, not what is actual reality.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 01:51 PM
Actually, though, that quote is true.

The Louvre does consider the Range Rover a piece of art.

Cubists are artists too.


It doesn't matter to him, YZF is above the Louvre. He is going to open his own museum with FD's and R1's.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 01:53 PM
LOL

"if....if....IF"

I've heard this same talk from you for quite awhile, I believe you've been out of school for well over a year


Oh, and you have heard this same talk. You see, I have these things in my life called "goals". I was planning on getting my MBA in corporate finance with the goal of working for an investment bank. I'm not a gigantic loser and actually know how to reach my goals, so I've been in the step by step process of doing so. Perhaps that's why you've heard this talk before, because I know what I want to do in life and have planned it out for some time.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 01:55 PM
no kidding :rolleyes:

stop by Charlotte so I can push your face in the dirt


What do you know, that's where BOA headquarters are. I'm sure I will be around quite alot, maybe I'll stop by and throw you some money so you can buy a car that isn't 14 years old.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 01:59 PM
ask me if I care


Of course you don't care. When presented with concrete fact that scholars and museums disagree with your bullshit argument, you have no retort because it's impossible to admit that you're wrong.

Steel
04-12-2007, 02:59 PM
no kidding :rolleyes:

stop by Charlotte so I can push your face in the dirt

Oh come now, you're not going to start down THAT path again, are you? The one where you threaten to beat someones ass at xxx location, then make excuses about not showing up when they actually take you up on it.

Your pride is bedding you a nice warm seat right next to Lucifer. Keep it up, Hellboy.

edit: Nevermind. If you ever grew the balls to actaully meet someone to fight them, you would just make up a bunch of lame excuses as to why you lost so bad;
"He had the height advantage" (who doesnt?)
"There was too much sand in my vagina to use my ninja skills."
"He fought dirty."
"I forgot to turn my a/c off" Oh wait... that's what ricers use when they lose a streetrace... ah well, same concept.

The only thing i'd worry aobut with you is you bringing a gun to a fistfight, cause that's how much of a candyass you are. Oh well. Keep riding your oversized CBR. And careful for those potholes that people tend to stand in, or else you'll be cashing your ticket to Hell that much earlier. I'd try to put that off as long as possible if i were you.

ComradeGiant
04-12-2007, 04:29 PM
ask me if I care

You obviously do, since you dignified the response with a post.

I thin you have some self-determination issues, and you validate your life with TFL.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 05:38 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

a museum in Paris is any criteria of anything???

:roll:

Yeah, uh, art? Design? Holy shit guy, are you that fucking retarded?



because I'm not wrong....morons on this forum or some museum in Paris are laughable criteria to cite against my statements

You know what's seriously laughable? The fact that you think you are actually pitting the Louvre's perception of art and design against the opinion of "some guys you know". I am seriously, literally laughing my ass off over here. I think the point has been sufficiently proven that you are a complete dumbass, do not hold a candle to me in any aspect whatsoever, and suck balls at arguing.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 05:41 PM
the CBR has been gone for years, just fyi


Which is clearly evidenced with the 2006 CBR 600RR, and CBR 1000RR.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-12-2007, 05:47 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

a museum in Paris is any criteria of anything???

:roll:

because I'm not wrong....morons on this forum or some museum in Paris are laughable criteria to cite against my statements



Hahahahah! "What do a bunch of French faggots know about art? I'm from North Carolina and my friends think that my 14 year old FD is art! Fuck those fags in Paris!"

Man you just made my night. I'm gonna go out with a smile on my face now.

Steel
04-12-2007, 06:59 PM
no shit there isnt an oversized CBR. i was alluding to the fact that you are UNDERSIZED

and 5'11" is still short, at least, from my perspective.

beefhole
04-12-2007, 07:44 PM
^ now be nice! I'm 5'6", but hey, I'm tall enough to bonk my head getting into an FC :D

Say No To Pistons
04-12-2007, 08:00 PM
^ Are you related to James aka Spot Skater?

skydivr7673
04-12-2007, 08:52 PM
really, asshole? what's your education?

him = MBA......

you = "four years of engineering school....four years of engineering school....four years of engineering school....

not real sure, but I think you got fucked on that deal....

really? how much do you make?

and you got schooled here too.....good job, dickless!!

yeah, you're another stupid punk who thinks he knows everything

Riddle me this--if he's a stupid punk, and he has more education than you do...what does that make you?

A complete assmonkey with few hopes and fewer friends, thats what....

I'm perfectly willing to listen when someone can express themselves intelligently, not some foul mouthed asshole like yourself...I lost any respect for you a long time ago with your endless perverse rants on rx-club, you're a piece of shit

absolutely pure bullshit. Want an example? How about that guy that knew you? ov10? You cant find a person on this forum that wouldnt agree that he expressed himself intelligently, with no foul language at all....nothing but respect, even for your dumb ass, and even then you were a complete shithead. The guy said he would pray for you, and you told him to leave the forum!!!

Youre a prick, we all know it, so you can stop lying about how pathetic you really are. Any more lies??

oh here we go, the jimlab style of argument...I never said the FD is the ultimate car, I simply like the way it looks

again, pure bullshit. You didnt merely say you liked the way it looks. You claimed it was "timeless". You claimed that so many others agreed with you. You claimed these OPINIONS as FACTS. All because youre a raging shithead with the worst inferiority complex ever. Stop lying, doofus....

kiss my ass, dickhead...go back to listening to 50 cent and driving your yellow pos truck

funny how you act like driving a pink car is manly....but hey, who am I to argue, right? I mean, all the high school sophmores you ran into at Barnes and Noble sure thought so, right???

because I'm not wrong, and you're a snot nosed little punk with an MBA

youre not wrong...about a FUCKING OPINION???

Hey dipshit--an opinion is not able to be judged right or wrong....ITS JUST AN OPINION...are you THIS desperate, for real, to finally be right about something??

Apparently you are....

By the way, you sound like a real dumbass, whining "youre a punk with an MBA...", especially when an MBA is more of an achievement than your own educational summit.

and why are you boasting about a salary you MIGHT earn? geez what an idiot

He isnt, if you could read, you would know that. He mentioned the salary he is guaranteed to receive under the contract he already signed. You on the other hand boast about girlfriends you never had, among other things....like your "health club workout" mad fighting skills, yo....:owned:

ask me if I care

A person that didnt care would have stopped replying long ago...but you cant shut up to save your life.

And the truth shall set you free.....

no kidding

stop by Charlotte so I can push your face in the dirt

WOW, back to this lame ass shit again??

You need a time-out from the internet me thinks....youre taking this shit way too seriously for the umpteenth time, I see. Get the fuck over yourself, old man....before someone really kicks your ass so hard that your teeth fall out.

a museum in Paris is any criteria of anything???

thats like saying that Wall Street isnt an authority on money....or that you are not an authority on rogaine....give it up already....

because I'm not wrong....morons on this forum or some museum in Paris are laughable criteria to cite against my statements

dude, shut the fuck up already...you cant be "right" about a friggin OPINION. Not only that but you change your statements like you lose your hair--constantly.

lol

this place is an ongoing gag reel for me

dont kid yourself--an ongoing gag reel wouldnt push you to the point where you seriously threaten physical harm on someone, asshole.

the CBR has been gone for years, just fyi

So have your testicles, your hopes of ever having a heterosexual relationship, and your original hairline...and???

secondly, there is no such thing as an "oversized CBR"

thankfully, you have jumped in with your "oversized ego" to save the day, right???

third, the rest of your post is parroted psycho jonnie fiction, he knows I'm 5"11" 195, I've listed people on rx7club who can attest to that fact

MWAHAHAHAHAHA

Back on this again??

Look, dude--if you werent so hyperfuckingoversensitive about your height problem, this would not ever be mentioned. People bring it up because they know youre an insecure asshole and they are guaranteed to see you whininig in reply, every time.

when lies are repeated often enough, fools accept it as truth

Is that why you keep changing your story all the time--so you wont "repeat it often enough"??

I'm from the motor city, dipshit

there is alot of freaky stuff in art museums you and your boyfriend probably enjoy viewing...more power to ya

that wouldnt be you, posting a perverted comment, would it?? Nah, didnt think so...

:asshole:

Steel
04-12-2007, 09:14 PM
^ now be nice! I'm 5'6", but hey, I'm tall enough to bonk my head getting into an FC :D

Damn, now THAT is short. But at least you admit it. I bet you could even date girls who are taller than you.

skydivr7673
04-12-2007, 09:21 PM
you catch on fast, plant life IQ jonnie!

only a total jackass would be so proud of being 40 yet acting 5.....you prove a point with that, and the point you prove is not your own.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-13-2007, 12:19 AM
btw, some kid with an MBA calling a 15 year professional engineer retarded is supremely ironic

perhaps you will make more money than me at some point (engineers are notoriously underpaid), but leeches like yourself are driving this country into the ground, while China and India are kicking our ass in engineering and manufacturing

when the next depression hits, I may have the last laugh



Apparently you've never taken an economics class. Yes, China, India, and Japan are kicking our ass in manufacturing and engineering. However, people commonly have the misconception that this is the fault of the people running US companies. Not true. If it weren't for these people, many US companies wouldn't even be in business still. Many US companies have made mistakes along the lines of underestimating these foreign competitors. Couple that with the general greedy nature of Americans (ie: factory union workers who demand $40/hr to do menial labor such as loading sprockets into a machine), and you have US companies that cannot turn a profit anymore.

If these companies didn't start outsourcing labor, they wouldn't even be in business at this point. The US is no longer the superpower that it was, and it likely won't be again. It's the macro cycle, we went through our manufacturing peak a long time ago and its running out. There are too many emerging markets that are able to do things just as good yet cheaper than we can, and there isn't really anything at all that can be done about that.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-13-2007, 12:20 AM
btw, some kid with an MBA calling a 15 year professional engineer retarded is supremely ironic

perhaps you will make more money than me at some point (engineers are notoriously underpaid), but leeches like yourself are driving this country into the ground, while China and India are kicking our ass in engineering and manufacturing

when the next depression hits, I may have the last laugh


And it is unlikely that you will have the last laugh. Banks run this country, and will continue to do so.

skydivr7673
04-13-2007, 01:52 AM
btw, some kid with an MBA calling a 15 year professional engineer retarded is supremely ironic

perhaps you will make more money than me at some point (engineers are notoriously underpaid), but leeches like yourself are driving this country into the ground, while China and India are kicking our ass in engineering and manufacturing

when the next depression hits, I may have the last laugh

Whats REALLY ironic is that you claim to be a 15 year professional engineer, and yet you act like the first grader on the fucking playground, crying like a little bitch all the time. If you want to be respected as a 15 year professional engineer, try acting like one, ya fucking retard. When you act like you need to wear a hockey helmet, thats exactly how youre gonna get treated. Last time I checked, "professional" engineers didnt run around threatening to kick people's asses because of their opinion of a friggin car over teh intarweb ya doofy freak.

China is kicking our asses in engineering because THEIR engineers dont post 10,000 posts filled with hate, bullshit, threats, and lies over the internet, and then whine about not being treated as a professional. Their professionals ACT LIKE FUCKING PROFESSIONALS. Why not try it sometime?? You may be shocked and amazed at just how many people would consider you human instead of just another asshole in need of a serious ass kicking....of course, the pink car couldnt hurt, right?? What better way to show your "professional" status than with an FD?? I know, a good salary, right? An R1, perhaps? Brand new daily driver?? Owning a house??

You know what all that means?? Simple---it means you are guilty of boasting. Hell, you cant even be professional enough to be humble--youre just a complete prick all the way through.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-13-2007, 07:26 AM
btw, some kid with an MBA calling a 15 year professional engineer retarded is supremely ironic

perhaps you will make more money than me at some point (engineers are notoriously underpaid), but leeches like yourself are driving this country into the ground, while China and India are kicking our ass in engineering and manufacturing

when the next depression hits, I may have the last laugh


What a fucking dumb statement that is. "Leeches like you", ha! It's people like me who are the reason people like you are even employed.

And there is nothing supremely ironic about this. You are seriously retarded, and have demonstrated so multiple times in this thread. You might want to drop the "kid" insults as well, cause it just continues to make you like even dumber as you're getting schooled.

2ndGen.Rocket
04-13-2007, 12:32 PM
Go tell the MBA's running your company that you think they are a bunch of shitheads.

Steel
04-13-2007, 02:29 PM
yzf: you forgot to give credit to the author of that second quote. Here i'll help you out. :D

I'm seriously retarded, and I have demonstrated so multiple times in this thread.


Here's another one from you, its basically in every post you put up;
I'm so blinded by my own pride and arrogance that I think I'm getting into heaven, when in fact the aforementioned pride is dragging me straight to hell, and Lucifer can't wait to get my ass. I'll make a great minion.

Ooh, this game is fun.

ooeeeoeoeoeoeoeeeoeee Im a weeetaaaaahhhd! duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

:roll:

BATMAN
04-13-2007, 03:22 PM
YZF is loosing it.......

skydivr7673
04-13-2007, 06:16 PM
I originated that technique, lest you forget ;)

what, you decided to find a completely new way to be an absolute asshole and now you want full credit??

Your daddy should have shot you down the shower drain.

wow, look everyone--stump chump finally thinks he got some game, and the best he can come up with is changing someone's quotes to make himself feel like a man. You are one seriously fucked freak.

ComradeGiant
04-13-2007, 06:22 PM
oh, and we also learned a mid 70s Range Rover is sexy because of a museum in Paris

:rolleyes:

And because it lays the smack down on everything but an FJ40.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

My 72 Caddy was a beautiful thing.

skydivr7673
04-13-2007, 11:24 PM
yeah, stump chump's finally going off the deep end for real...here ya go, marky, some fond memories of your life, just for you....

Who could ever forget grade school picture day?? Guess which one's marky:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/skydivr7673/P1155-1.jpg

Things got a little better when ol stump chump got to high school....he even made a new friend while demonstrating his mad fightin skills.....

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/skydivr7673/P1303-1.jpg

Well, he never was one to hit it off with the ladies...so, by the time he got to college, he devised a foolproof plan to finally get into some pussy:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/skydivr7673/P1058-1.jpg

sometimes, though, the best of plans can prove unsuccessful....

but hey, just because he's gonna be alone the rest of his life, doesnt mean he cant be happy, right?? Take his new house--he had some special modifications done just for him. For example--this is his new office:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/skydivr7673/P1094-1.jpg

That would certainly explain the 10,000 posts...

skydivr7673
04-14-2007, 07:53 AM
I think you'll go to your grave ignoring your own preaching, jonnie

in fact, I know you will

wrong again--I was nothing but respectful to you when I came here, and I saw what that got me--you were still nothing more than a complete prick in reply. so I learned that being respectful to you was not going to change anything....sure, you were nice for one day, long enough for me to share with you how we lost ou house....only to use that against me later like the ass that you are.

In the end, youre nothing more than a liar and a common fraud. and what about your oft-parroted "where respect is shown it is given"??? you sure dont follow through there.....loser

skydivr7673
04-14-2007, 01:32 PM
no, you were nothing but your usual overbearing, hypoctritcal, double talking, judgmental self....think I didn't know what to expect after the years of your garbage at rx7club?

you really aren't that bright, jonnie

I told you I didn't respect you, and to just leave me alone, you won't take the hint...you're a parasite who isn't appreciated by anyone on this forum

this has already been proven, so lying about it now wont help you.

in either case, you are most definitely not the person to speak for everyone on this forum--you are the biggest joke in the history of this forum! Remember the polls you tried?? Remember how they backfired on you? Clearly you are in no position to tell me or anyone else what "anyone on this forum" thinks. Youre just a sorry ass loser--a middle-aged, lonely, halfway-to-bald retard that makes a habit of standing in ditches.

ComradeGiant
04-14-2007, 05:01 PM
You are both idiots.

skydivr7673
04-14-2007, 09:44 PM
my g/f assures me of my lonlieness lol

another great evening in store for me....more diaper changes for you....alone, except for kids

my youngest daughter was born five weeks ago, dipshit.....tell me, how could I be "alone except for kids"??? Did I pop out this child myself now? Three children, all with the same mother, and the youngest was just born--yep, I am certain you've got it right, dumbass. Then again, since you dont even have a functioning set of testicles, I am not at all surprised that you dont get this.

You are such a fucking retard, you are too ignorant to see that you make no sense there. yeah, another great evening, as long as that inner tube patch holds, right?


trust me, asshole, I wouldnt trade half of what I have with my wife and children for everything you claim youve got. Its that simple.

skydivr7673
04-15-2007, 02:09 PM
you're a liar, a fraud, and an accuser...destined for hell

simple as that

well, the results of my accusations about your behavior and lack of character have spoken for themselves, jackass, so youre gonna have to do better than that. Nothing I accused you of turned out to be false. Everything I said about you lying to the people that trusted you in worship was true, you even admitted it yourself! So much for this latest round of marky bullshit.

Youre a smart guy, too bad you cant even tell the truth about anything these days. God's watching, retard....

skydivr7673
04-15-2007, 03:01 PM
is that so?

I'm not 5'11"? false

I'm losing my hair? false

I got "kicked out" of the FH group? false

I don't have a g/f? false

what else have you accused me of, personally? it's a long list

like your father the devil, you accuse constantly, while ignoring your own stench

1--there isnt a person on this forum that seriously questioned your height, fucktard, me included. As already told to you a hundred times, the only reason anyone mentions your height is because of your guaranteed insecure response. So much for your first claim.

2--you know damn fucking well that you are a member of that hair club web forum. Denying it is fucking pointless, as well as blatantly dishonest. Come on already--it is so obvious--the same email address used for that user name is the same email address that has been verified to be yours on the 7 club forum, when you have sold parts before. So sorry, but youre full of shit and everyone can see it.

3--you WERE distanced in that group. You know it. I know it. The several people I spoke to from that group know it. Stop lying ya fuckwad. Youve been caught. Deal with it like a fucking man already and stop being such a whiny bitch.

4--no, chump, you are the one who told Brian you were single. You denied it all the hell over the place, then you admitted it not too many months ago. Lying about it again wont suddenly make your lie come true.

Shall we talk about your false accusations?? Remember your 4x4 truck claim? That I supposedly told you I looked up your DMV records? What happened when I posted your quote straight from the forums where you said you owned it? Still waiting for that apology....

Youre an ass, stop lying and grow the fuck up

skydivr7673
04-15-2007, 03:24 PM
and btw, what the heck does this have to do with an NSX?


PSYCHO jonnie

probably about as much as an FD does, moron....but that didnt seem to stop you whining about how much better the FD is, did it??

2ndGen.Rocket
04-16-2007, 09:28 AM
1--there isnt a person on this forum that seriously questioned your height, fucktard, me included. As already told to you a hundred times, the only reason anyone mentions your height is because of your guaranteed insecure response. So much for your first claim.

2--you know damn fucking well that you are a member of that hair club web forum. Denying it is fucking pointless, as well as blatantly dishonest. Come on already--it is so obvious--the same email address used for that user name is the same email address that has been verified to be yours on the 7 club forum, when you have sold parts before. So sorry, but youre full of shit and everyone can see it.

3--you WERE distanced in that group. You know it. I know it. The several people I spoke to from that group know it. Stop lying ya fuckwad. Youve been caught. Deal with it like a fucking man already and stop being such a whiny bitch.

4--no, chump, you are the one who told Brian you were single. You denied it all the hell over the place, then you admitted it not too many months ago. Lying about it again wont suddenly make your lie come true.

Shall we talk about your false accusations?? Remember your 4x4 truck claim? That I supposedly told you I looked up your DMV records? What happened when I posted your quote straight from the forums where you said you owned it? Still waiting for that apology....

Youre an ass, stop lying and grow the fuck up

Super-owned.

skydivr7673
04-18-2007, 11:30 PM
were they running it during the Great Depression?

I dont seem to recall anything about dirt engineers running it back then, how about you?

skydivr7673
04-18-2007, 11:55 PM
no worries man

skydivr7673
04-19-2007, 12:06 AM
if there is another depression, "investment bankers" will be out on the street like anyone else..

I'd say engineers would be in a better position to find work

how so?

depression = no money to pay employees = companies go out of business....how would anyone find a job when no one can pay the workers they already have? Without that money, new companies cannot afford to do the work needed to open their doors. Existing companies cannot afford to stay in business.

ComradeGiant
04-19-2007, 01:54 PM
were they running it during the Great Depression?

Well, yes actually.

Just not very well. Sort of badly actually.

Cosby
04-19-2007, 02:19 PM
OH! That's interesting and relevant information. I didn't know NSXs were powered on hope, love and Jesus.

ComradeGiant
04-19-2007, 02:43 PM
Its a hard call really.

If managed properly a fiat system works very well for all classes of society, but as soon as it gets out of hand, or someone decides they don't want to play anymore, it all goes down hill quickly.

On the other hand, you can't really play around with a gold standard, and inflation becomes a non issue.

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