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sir rupert hobo
09-08-2005, 10:48 PM
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/men/package.jsp?name=fte/genistein/genistein


This Food Can Damage Men's Fertility

A natural chemical found in soy, tofu and legumes can potentially damage sperm and lower men's fertility, Reuters reports of new research from King's College London.

The plant chemical, genistein, mimics the effect of the female hormone estrogen and in turn affects sperm in laboratory mice. Tests in humans have shown an even stronger impact than in the rodents. Research leader Lynn Fraser found in lab tests that small amounts of genistein can cause human sperm to "burn out" and lose fertility, reports Reuters.

And it's not just men who should avoid eating soy, tofu, and legumes. Women who are trying to conceive a baby should also avoid it since the chemical can affect sperm when it is in the female preparing to fertilize an egg. "Maternal exposure to the compounds is probably more important than paternal exposure," Fraser told a meeting of the European Society of Human Reproduction and Embryology meeting.

Even though the research is still preliminary, Fraser advised couples who are trying to conceive to restrict their soy intake during the window of ovulation.

Others say the results are surprising, especially since Asian societies eat a diet rich in soy and show no signs of reduced fertility. In addition, what happens to sperm in a laboratory setting may not apply to real life.

And the age-old question men have wondered about: Does the type of undies you wear affect fertility? At one time, it was thought that tighty-whities might lead to infertility by raising the temperature of the testes so it interfered with sperm production. But this theory, however grand it sounds, was bashed in 1998 by Drs. Robert Munkelwitz and Bruce R. Gilbert. They analyzed semen samples from 97 men, all of whom had fertility problems. Half wore briefs and half wore boxer shorts. The results? There were no significant differences between the two groups of men in scrotal temperature, sperm count, sperm concentration or sperm motility, they wrote in the Journal of Urology.

2ndGen.Rocket
09-08-2005, 10:57 PM
That's why you don't eat soy. It turns you into a girl.

I think I posted this for someone once a while back who was looking into a vegetarian lifting diet and using soy for protein.

sir rupert hobo
09-08-2005, 11:10 PM
That's why you don't eat soy. It turns you into a girl.

I think I posted this for someone once a while back who was looking into a vegetarian lifting diet and using soy for protein.

are you fucking serious? someone tried to do that?! why not just whip out the needle?

BATMAN
09-08-2005, 11:17 PM
Apparently Asians are immune to it.............. just look at their population........... and prick size.

rodney87
09-09-2005, 12:20 AM
Maybe the amount of soy they eat is the reason for the "prick size"?

Carbine 556
09-09-2005, 12:34 AM
how is it batman can relate EVERYTHING to a penis?

jhammons01
09-09-2005, 01:39 AM
My sperm count is "ZERO" (not you ZC).......on purpose. The Vas went very smoothly with no discomfort whatsoever. Sex is all for fun now...I shoot blanks and I'm proud of it. Were I to do it all over again.....I'd freeze about a gallon of normally waisted sperm for the purpose of reproduction. All the "pull outs" and condoms where not worth it!!!!

Carbine 556
09-09-2005, 01:41 AM
do you already have kids, or do just not want them?

jhammons01
09-09-2005, 02:19 AM
Four kids

http://www.illstreet.com/forums/attach-1171

cool3865
09-09-2005, 02:49 AM
wait.......so if i dont want to get a girl pregnant i should eat more Soy???

sir rupert hobo
09-09-2005, 03:28 AM
Four kids

http://www.illstreet.com/forums/attach-1171

yeah dude, good thinking! that's enough right there. your ak-47 days are over:bigthumb:

rx-7_Z06
09-09-2005, 04:54 AM
exactly how long would your sperm be good for once you have some company freeze it for you? And isn't the procedure reversible?

BATMAN
09-09-2005, 10:03 AM
Just toss the shit in the freezer.

Anyways here are some articles on how Soy reduces male hormone production since soy has plant estrogens.

Last I recall male hormones make dicks grow.

http://www.google.com/search?q=soy+testosterone&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-25%2CGGLG%3Aen

rxtasy
09-09-2005, 11:15 AM
wait.......so if i dont want to get a girl pregnant i should eat more Soy???

no, u either pull out or u use a condom. by the time u wait for it to reduce the count to 0, u'd probably be to old to get it up to have sex.

jhammons01
09-09-2005, 11:57 AM
Soy is not gonna stop you from getting a girl pregnant. And why wouldyou want to reverse a vasectamy??? I went through hell trying to get Kaiser to give me one. Hell if I had been more insistant about getting one that pic I posted would only have three!!!!!!

Freezing your sperm will last indefinatly....its froze. Just thaw some out and squeeze it in while she is ovulating....those little tadpoles will do the rest on their own. presto!!! bun in the oven!

The Vas was so easy.......I went to my kids music recitle 1 hour after I left the clinic......I went to work the next day as well. Never really missed anything due to the vas. The nut sack was slightly swollen for a couple of weeks but only slightly noticable.....not uncomfortable by any means. The Bruising looked horrible but the key word is "looked"

BATMAN
09-09-2005, 12:04 PM
did u get to see him open ur sack up?

No spontaneous erections to get the wang outta the way?

meddle
09-09-2005, 12:43 PM
Men in St Louis are supposed to have the lowest average tadpoles per nanogram of babybatter in the hole US. Somthing about chemicals in our water.

1 bad 7
09-09-2005, 08:54 PM
Then why do I see so many white-trash 19 year olds in South County with kids???

jhammons01
09-10-2005, 12:52 AM
did u get to see him open ur sack up?

No spontaneous erections to get the wang outta the way?
Naw, I didn't want to look. The cotorizing(sp) was pretty gruesome as the smell of burning flesh was unpleasant...but not painful as the area was numb.

And No, it was way too clinical. and the initial shaving with the safety razor took care of any "good thoughts" Doc grabbed my pecker....pulled it up towards my belly and stretched....then took a safety razor of some sort and dry shaved the are way too quick to be considered safe.

meddle
09-10-2005, 04:56 PM
Then why do I see so many white-trash 19 year olds in South County with kids???
:dunno:

What about the jigs????

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