Just felt like having a competing thread. :)

Latest attack? By Militant Christians?

* Punches Atheism in the face *

You mean the years 100-present?

Apparently u have already jumped on this........

He jumped on it like if the founding father of the Mormon church were below it.

You know what I like about being part of an alternate religion? I don't care what anyone else worships.

Sometimes I think Christianity is just a platform for people to judge others and try to interfere in their lives.

if you care about other people, you care if they believe lies....

an apathetic attitude is what God hates...God loves people who DO care, who are passionate and zealous

anything else is ultimately lazy minded

if you care about people, you dont rejoice because they dealt with cancer. If you care about people, you dont applaud when a hurricane takes their home. If you care about people, you dont wish more bad things, like more hurricanes or more illness, upon them. Last time I checked, that kind of self-serving arrogance is precisely what God hates.

If you care about people, you dont pray for God to kill them just because of a friggin internet forum. But thats just what I think....nevermind that the Bible follows that sentiment, right??

......Sometimes I think Christianity is just a platform for people to judge others and try to interfere in their lives.

It's the entire Judeo-Christian-Muslim bunch.

Jews are more subtle about it..... they still do.

if you care about other people, you care if they believe lies....

an apathetic attitude is what God hates...God loves people who DO care, who are passionate and zealous

anything else is ultimately lazy minded

hey, can you take off your ear phones for a minute, dawg? You know, the one you put on everytime you take a shit, listening to brainwashing propaganda from your mail order church? Can you just turn it off forever? I want you to listen to me.

You are not a christian. You are a xtain militant. And if you keep this up, you will injure innocent. And this sect you are involved in will get stronger. And as it grows, it will be a force that will intimidate folks, and send civilization as we know it, back to the Pilgrim days.

that is judging...perfect example

I Corinthians 4

But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you or by a human court. In fact, I do not even judge myself. For I know of nothing against myself, yet I am not justified by this; but He who judges me is the Lord. Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one’s praise will come from God.
irrelavant.
Like you, he didnt like being called out a criminal. He wrote about how insane he was and no one is the law cep for him and his pretend friend god.

Had to...

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nice diversion

you talk about me being "militant" (a ridiculous assertion), and then try to judge me

what a hypocrite....run along
hey, make sure you ask your new friends to use condoms. You know, the big black one bunking with you in prison. If not, maybe shield the HIV with bible pages. That's be something (ebonics).

the problem is most people throw the word "judging" around randomly, out of context

"judging" is a personal assessment of someone's spiritual value...it goes beyond an assessment of their spiritual character and is the domain of God alone

confrontation of doctrinal error (or philosophical error) is not judging

so, when you tell someone that they are straight out of hell, bound for hell, useless, worthless, hopeless, dont deserve to live, etc etc etc, that would be known as.....

JUDGING.....

thanks for that. It really clears things up!

Spiritual value, right? hmmm....so are you the pot or the kettle this evening?

I guess when you go to church, you get a license to judge. Hmm.

honegod will jump on this

as you wish. :peace:



there is no such thing as "atheism".

an atheist is simply a person who does not believe in any gods and sees no reason why he should act as though he does.

this is intolerable to those who believe in A hate filled god who punishes any lack of belief.

"atheism" is the invention of theists who needed a group name for atheists so that god could hate them as a group like he hates all the other groups who fail to worship him properly.

so "atheism" is a direct attack on atheists.

y'all are getting 'judging' wrong.

Judge Dredd got it right.

sodom and gomorrah, The Flood{tm} the plagues on egypt. there was judging.

executing the punishment is a required part of the process.

the catholics got it wrong too.

"judging" is a personal assessment of someone's spiritual value...it goes beyond an assessment of their spiritual character and is the domain of God alone

confrontation of doctrinal error (or philosophical error) is not judging

so this is true, but incomplete,

the implication of completion is what makes it wrong.



:bowdown: :screwyou:

the jews slaughtering the women and children of "the promised land" was the execution of gods wrathful judgement on those people.

the good old days.

:bowdown: :screwyou:

It's the entire Judeo-Christian-Muslim bunch.

Jews are more subtle about it..... they still do.


Jews arent subtle about it at all :P

Had to...

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There is no giult in Christ.

You're thinking of Catholics.

When I was in kindergarten, some kid called me a loser. I proceeded to punch his lights out. The teacher asked me "Why did you do that?!" "I didn't like him calling me that" "But that's WRONG!" "I didn't know that. I'm sorry." Then I WAS sorry, because I was then taught that punching someone was wrong.

Guilt is taught, not imbued.

You guys are really making god sound like a dick, that if you arent' perfect he won't love you. Sounds like an abusive relationship.

It's true, it is.

When I was in kindergarten, some kid called me a loser. I proceeded to punch his lights out. The teacher asked me "Why did you do that?!" "I didn't like him calling me that" "But that's WRONG!" "I didn't know that. I'm sorry." Then I WAS sorry, because I was then taught that punching someone was wrong.

Guilt is taught, not imbued.

Funny how you don’t find your immediate response towards guilt peculiar. Let’s pretend that you didn’t embellish this little story of yours for a moment and look at it realistically. You punch some kid because you don’t realize that it’s “wrong” however, once you are told that your reaction was not acceptable you felt “sorry”? Who taught you to feel sorry after doing something wrong?

God demands obedience...we live in a world where everyone has this "mr. rogers" view of Christ which is completely false

another reason I usually back up my points from the Bible....so it isn't just my opinion

from your chosen VERSION of A bible.

the version you chose because it agrees with your opinion.

which is fine, that is what the right to worship freely is for.
to protect your right TO choose which version of which bible you want to worship.

so they can worship a Mr.Rogers version and you can worship your Mr. T version.

without either of you dragging the other out into the street and sawing his head off with a dull knife.

YZF..... u rshould realy channel ur religious zealot energy to something more constructive.

U've certainly failed at recruiting anymore followers on the internet.

Did u get the memo from GOD? He's ordering u to stop.....

u don't get it......

God demands obedience...we live in a world where everyone has this "mr. rogers" view of Christ which is completely false

another reason I usually back up my points from the Bible....so it isn't just my opinion

And if I am not obdient?

continual disobedience leads to (spiritual) death

I bet you would know....

all of the modern translations are excellent, I happen to prefer the NIV, NAS, and, sometimes, NKJV

all but the mormon, and jewish, and moslem, and catholic, and episcopalian, and lutherin, and greek orthadox, and... and...

which all add to, or delete from the scriptures

that's not a translation

"the scriptures"

you say this as though there WAS an Official statement BY GOD of exactly what comprised "the scriptures".

what you have is a bundle of letters from some men written to some other men. with some stories.

a translation is an approximation of the original, not the same thing.

so these other bibles were simply compiled by other men who chose a different selection of random letters that THEY Believed was god speaking through those human vessels, different than the ones that the men who compiled your choice of bibles.

I have read that there was controversy about including "revelations" in the book.

clearly god had nothing to do with the compilation.

there are many, many extra Biblical writings that were not included in the 66 books of the Canon....for good reason

and finds like the Dead Sea Scrolls point to the veracity and authenticity of the original documents

God has preserved His Word

you have said that you use the NIV. Obviously, accuracy is a major issue. To that end, would you mind quoting from your NIV BIBLE John 7:53 please? How about John 8:11? how about any verse in between the two?

The NIV contains those verses....but they were not included in the earliest and what are usually deemed to be the 'most reliable' sources. In other words, EVERY VERSION OF THE BIBLE HAS BEEN CHANGED FROM SOMETHING ELSE. Even the one YOU use......hmmm....

Tell us, when was the canon standardized that the NIV follows? How many centuries passed full of argument over what to include and what to throw away? Man, not only did they debate about what books to include, they even split hairs as far as debating certain verses individually!

continual disobedience leads to (spiritual) death

Is this different then regular death? Do you think you are not going to die?

fascinating. yet no one ever came back from the dead to verify this. ha haha hahaha hahahahaha!
I feel like a kindergarten teacher with xtains as students. they look at me and go 'huh?'.

actually, no one returned from the dead. Vegetables dont count.

Oh I forgot, I'm talking to the hopeful here, who got picked on through out his years and hope there is justice after death.

to weak minds, nice people tell truth.

Like I said....

actually, no one returned from the dead. Vegetables dont count.

Oh I forgot, I'm talking to the hopeful here, who got picked on through out his years and hope there is justice after death.

to weak minds, nice people tell truth.

sure, because YOU were there! you witnessed all of history....YOU saw it all!

no, you're a little mouth speaking ignorant words in the cold wind of eternity

that hardly is a legitimate defense--after all, you were most definitely not there yourself, and you most definitely did not see anything yourself, did you? So, if that makes him ignorant, what does it make you at the same time?

Zombie jesus, lurching from the crypt, eating peoples brains, turning them into more like Him.

"physical death is just a gateway"

:bowdown: :screwyou:

When I was in kindergarten, some kid called me a loser. I proceeded to punch his lights out. The teacher asked me "Why did you do that?!" "I didn't like him calling me that" "But that's WRONG!" "I didn't know that. I'm sorry." Then I WAS sorry, because I was then taught that punching someone was wrong.

Guilt is taught, not imbued.


Funny how you don’t find your immediate response towards guilt peculiar. Let’s pretend that you didn’t embellish this little story of yours for a moment and look at it realistically. You punch some kid because you don’t realize that it’s “wrong” however, once you are told that your reaction was not acceptable you felt “sorry”? Who taught you to feel sorry after doing something wrong?


No answer for this?

Shucks

My Uncle, quite plainly. Guilt is a taught feeling.

They are only worthless to one who has no sense of value.

My Uncle, quite plainly. Guilt is a taught feeling.

Uh-huh, your uncle taught you emotions eh? Must be quite the teacher. Did he teach you to feel angry or upset as well? I bet he gave a demonstration of the accompanying facial expressions too huh?

Too bad he fell short teaching you to think logically.

Guilt is taught. That's like saying that you just 'know' your numbers. Do don't feel guilty until you are told what that is.

situations when you should feel guilty is taught, not emotions.

Guilt is taught. That's like saying that you just 'know' your numbers. Do don't feel guilty until you are told what that is.

Guilt is taught? That's like saying that you are taught how to cry or how to be upset. Emotions are not taught.

Do you know how stupid you sound right now?

Guilt is taught. I'll say it again and again. You cannot have guilt without knowing of guilt. It all goes back to your 'original sin'

Then please explain to me how you have been taught how to feel? You aren't taught physical sensations so why would you be taught emotional ones?

You're too dug into yer ways to understand. I'm done with this thread.

Too dug into my ways to understand? Yeah, I guess I’m too seated in my ways of thinking before I say stupid shit that I can’t possibly back up.

What happened to saying it again and again?