As near as I can tell, to be a liberal:

* You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of funding.

* You have to be against capital punishment but for abortion on demand - in short, you support protecting the guilty and killing the innocent.

* You have to believe that the same overpaid public school idiot who can't teach 4th graders how to read, is qualified to teach those same kids about sex.

* You have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless heroes and doctors are overpaid.

* You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear weapons in the hands of the Red Chinese.

* You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the brilliance of the Sun, and more affected by yuppies driving SUVs.

* You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being gay is natural.

* You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.

* You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature but pasty, visionist activists who've never been outside Seattle do.

* You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

* You have to believe there was no art before federal funding.

* You have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians, start wars.

* You have to believe the free market that gives us 500+ channels, can't deliver the quality that PBS does.

* You have to believe the NRA is bad, because they stand up for certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because they stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.

* You have to believe that taxes are too low but ATM fees are too high.

* You have to believe that Harriet Tubman, Cesar Chavez and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E. Lee or Thomas Edison.

* You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't.

* You have to believe second-hand smoke is more dangerous than HIV.

* You have to believe Hillary Clinton is really a lady and Rosie O'Donnell is not really a man.

* You have to believe conservatives are racists but that black people couldn't make it without your help.

* You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried, is because the right people haven't been in charge.

Looking back on the list, it seems shallow, muddled, contradictory, divorced of logic and a bit sadistic. Well, then. If that doesn't describe the modern American liberal, I don't know what does.

Some of what's on that list is true, but some of it is a bit extreme.

Some of what's on that list is true, but some of it is a bit extreme.


which ones?

Wow... I've never seen so much stupid bullshit in one thread.

Should I wait for some blue-collar, red-blooded, white-skinned American replies about your heritage and your rights?

:dunno:

I just found it on another forum and copy pasta

I thought it was funny.

I think the comment about the "4th grade public idiot not being able to teach your children to read" says it all about the people that actually forward/distribute this mindless bullshit around the internet. :)

:bigthumb:

5th grade is considered your Senior Year 'round these parts.

Btw.... in your sig.... The Mario Andretti quote...

"your just not going fast enough."

Your = possessive pronoun.
You're = contraction for "you are."

I learned this 'round these parts in about second grade. :)

oh well.

Democrat ball suckers!

I think some of that is BS extreme.

If anyone can guess at least 5 of them, I'll make that person a moderator. ;)

How the hell did Robert E. Lee contribute to America?!?

liberals are generally characterized by denial of absolutes and personal responsiblity....imo, the number one most defining characteristic of a liberal is blame shifting, e.g. "that damn George Bush, he's the reason I can't get a job!"

:rolleyes:

no, that's a uniquely conservative American view of liberal.

In most parts of the world, a political liberal is one who holds liberty as the primary political value, and fights for freedom of thought, a free market economy, and transparency of government.

Btw.... in your sig.... The Mario Andretti quote...

"your just not going fast enough."

Your = possessive pronoun.
You're = contraction for "you are."

I learned this 'round these parts in about second grade. :)

Everytime I see Paris Hilton on TV, I think about the time she had that black t-shirt with "I'M HOT YOUR NOT" on it.

Everytime I see Paris Hilton on TV, I think about the time she had that black t-shirt with "I'M HOT YOUR NOT" on it.

ahahaha that's about the only circumstance i'd want to see her...

Yep, I'm a lawless bastard all right... :)

of course, there are no absolutes for the atheist

On the contrary - to an athiest, once you're dead, you're dead - absolutely. Only those who worship a Great Wizard in the Sky refuse to believe that absolute

The way I figure it the odds of being wrong for an athiest aren't that much worse than those for being a Christian.

Having a religion is like buying two lotto tickets, sure your odds improve but they're still against you.

The way I figure it the odds of being wrong for an athiest aren't that much worse than those for being a Christian.

Having a religion is like buying two lotto tickets, sure your odds improve but they're still against you.

Please never attempt to make your own jokes again, thanks.

liberals are generally characterized by denial of absolutes and personal responsiblity....imo, the number one most defining characteristic of a liberal is blame shifting, e.g. "that damn George Bush, he's the reason I can't get a job!"

:rolleyes:
Using that logic, the same can be said for conservative republicans, e.g. "That damn Bill Clinton is the reason I can't have my guns!"

What you characterized above is what ignorant citizens who don't vote usually say. So it's safe to say that those people don't get involved in politics, therefore there's no reason to label them a liberal :rolleyes:

1) this thread doesn't need scripture
2) Manntis always makes me feel better about a thread. The nondomestic view of liberalism is exactly what I planned to comment on. It gets a little confusing when you begin making distinctions between classical liberalism and neoliberalism....