If I sell the NSX (most likely), I like to weigh the option of a LS-FD or a C6 Z06.

Both cars are sexy.

The FD's handling advantage will be lighter weight where the C6 Z06 advantage will be lower center of gravity, wider chassis that allows wider wheels/tires (thanks to the flared out fenders).

Help me decide, since I'm on the fence about this.

Would you do the conversion on the FD? Or pay someone...?

Seems like at the end of the day a ZO6 would be worth more and be easier to sell than an rx7 with a v8 swap....

Ever think about buying a finished LSFD? Let someone else take the project "hit"

I would not do the conversion.

I guess I'll go for the C6 Z06.

Problem with the FD is finding a roller in good shape, but then again, with a car this old, you can plan on replacing essentially everything on the car capable of wearing out, including ALL the bushings. Word is jimlab was selling his '95 rolling chassis, which is pristine, you should try to get in touch with him.

As good as the C6 Z06 is, it can be a real handful, and you won't really stand out from the high end cars in CA. Why are you giving up on the NSX? Ever considered a 996 Turbo? That'll probably be my next garage queen. They are selling in the 40s and you can easily make 600+ hp, with all wheel drive. Bye bye Z06, Goat, and just about anything else.

Bye bye Z06, Goat, and just about anything else.

Except for a ZX10R right?? LOL...

The last way to stand out in a crowd of high end sports cars (if that's what you're trying to do) is buy a 911.....

I don't know that the c6 vette and the ls1 rx-7 can be put in the same category. The C6 is a LOT more expensive.

^probably not a lot more if you're buying a mint roller (which is had to find so maybe a mint driver) and paying someone to complete an "all bugs worked out" Lsx swap....I can see that really adding up.

What's a used C6 ZO6 going for?

Buddy of mine just picked up a mint Z51 wih 4k miles for $34k. You could spend that much on an LS1 FD if you went through everything, paid Hinson $12k for the conversion, repaint, etc.

The conversion takes some out of the fun of owning a 7 imo, since V-8s know their own tune, and smoking Mustangs and F bodies with a rotary is huge fun. With the onset of AI and water injection (and better tuners), there is absolutely no reason you cannot make 400-420 rwhp very reliably with a single turbo FD, and have a power to weight ratio that rivals a Z06.

Buddy of mine just picked up a mint Z51 wih 4k miles for $34k. You could spend that much on an LS1 FD if you went through everything, paid Hinson $12k for the conversion, repaint, etc.

The conversion takes some out of the fun of owning a 7 imo, since V-8s know their own tune, and smoking Mustangs and F bodies with a rotary is huge fun. With the onset of AI and water injection (and better tuners), there is absolutely no reason you cannot make 400-420 rwhp very reliably with a single turbo FD, and have a power to weight ratio that rivals a Z06.

Hi Mark. how you been? :asshole:

My Buddy is working on a LS7 swap from a GTO and should be done by Memorial Day weekend.

I think I might have to go to EC around Memorial Day weekend, you know... for the win.

I don't know that the c6 vette and the ls1 rx-7 can be put in the same category. The C6 is a LOT more expensive.

thanks to the economy I've seen a 50k miles C6 Z06 going for $35k

......As good as the C6 Z06 is, it can be a real handful, and you won't really stand out from the high end cars in CA. Why are you giving up on the NSX? Ever considered a 996 Turbo? That'll probably be my next garage queen. They are selling in the 40s and you can easily make 600+ hp, with all wheel drive. Bye bye Z06, Goat, and just about anything else.

I can make a C6 Z06 stand out with wider wheels/tires that are powder coated yellow, lowered, exhaust and huge CF yellow spoiler.

On the other hand I can do a Lovefab turbo NSX. Youtube the video of the one making 900~HP and 600TQ~.

But with the government taking over smog in 2012, I have to factor the smog nazis into the equation. The C6 Z06 have cam/head and blower options that are smog legal.

I'm not ready for a 911TT since the cost of ownership on a modded one is pretty high from talking to a few owners.

Hmmm, if that's highway miles it could be good. Link?

Buddy of mine just picked up a mint Z51 wih 4k miles for $34k. You could spend that much on an LS1 FD if you went through everything, paid Hinson $12k for the conversion, repaint, etc.

The conversion takes some out of the fun of owning a 7 imo, since V-8s know their own tune, and smoking Mustangs and F bodies with a rotary is huge fun. With the onset of AI and water injection (and better tuners), there is absolutely no reason you cannot make 400-420 rwhp very reliably with a single turbo FD, and have a power to weight ratio that rivals a Z06.

Good points.

Most likely I'll be raising the Z06 power to 600rwhp for the streets.

Single turbo FDs are not smog legal here and the cops are starting to grow brains around here. Few of my GTO colleagues have received $1000+ tickets for modified emission or missing emission parts.

I'd be happy with a reliable car that got good MPG.

Or you know, my wrist healing so I can ride my motorcycle again.

Hmmm, if that's highway miles it could be good. Link?


it's sold - no surprise.

The other day my NSX buddy came across an Atomic Orange one that has 25k miles. Has extended warranty for $40k.

I surf craigslist in SF Bay Area.

Even found a yellow 2nd gen Viper for sub $40k for sale.

As long as you still have a good paying full time job, the C6 Z06 is a pretty dam good bang for the buck.

I don't like the look of the 996. I like the 993 and 997 looks the best.

Have you priced out what it takes to get 600Hp outta these cars reliably?

I called up Lingerfelter the other day and they are working on a 1500wrhp C6 Z06 with turbos. they already have a twin supercharged one making 1300rwhp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExMI8Jar7og

Have you priced out what it takes to get 600Hp outta these cars reliably?

No, but word is the 996/997 Turbo drivetrain is very stout, without the RMS issues that seem to plague many n/a 911s, and even Boxsters and Caymans.

I was watching "Supercars Exposed" awhile ago (granted, it's a cheesy show), but they set up a mini track with a long straight and a few hairpins at a military base for their annual shootout. I was shocked at how miserably the high hp (as in, about 1000 hp) Vipers, Vettes, and GTs did, because they simply could not keep it together in the tighter sections of the track, and were smoking the tires even at 100+ mph on the straight (guy in the Viper spun out BIG TIME). Even the Gallardo got smoked. What humiliated the field? A high modded 996 Turbo pushing about 900 hp (although that figure was not dyno verified). A 997 Turbo with about 600 hp was right behind it. They clearly showed how these AWD cars dominate on tight "street" type tracks. I'm sure it would have been a different story at an open track like Willow Springs.

Well, the faster land animal in the world is AWD - Cheetah.

Make sure you do your research on 911s total cost of ownership (TCO) in modded format for a street car.

Also, are there enough trustable and adroit 911 mechanics in your 'hood?

keep in mind that it's german engineering and it's german engineering. In other words, the germans do make some impressive shit, but some of their engineering makes you wonder if they had multiple committees working on the car, like the styling lines on the RX8, for example.

i don't see myself going beyond 800rwhp with slicks on a RWD street car anytime soon, or even in my lifetime.

With my GTO I'm already at the level that most of what I see or race can be pulled on. Of course the majority of what can be beaten are stock cars. The point being is that I doubt that I will really need more than 600rwhp or even 700rwhp to conquer the roads around here.

I'd be happy with a reliable car that got good MPG...

HP for HP I havne't found a single engine format that is superior to the LSx with regards to delivering power and MPGs (when you are cruising).

engine format? the honda del-sol was one of the first off that ratio I think :P

HP to HP? Probably turbine, steam, sterling, etc all usually better then the otto cycle, except in price and acceleration, or size :D

http://sromagazine.com/events/albums/wpw-24/IMG_9226.jpg

Hmmm, that looks familiar. I don't think your car ever had an erector set wing, though, did it?

lol @ erector set

go to the corvetteforum.com you can find anything and everything on vettes there.