The Legislature on Friday approved a ban on nearly all abortions in South Dakota, setting up a direct legal assault on Roe v. Wade.

Republican Gov. Mike Rounds said he was inclined to sign the bill, which would make it a crime for doctors to perform an abortion unless it was necessary to save the woman’s life. The measure would make no exception in cases of rape or incest.

Many opponents and supporters of abortion rights believe the U.S. Supreme Court is more likely to overturn its 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion now that Justices John Roberts and Samuel Alito are on the bench.

Planned Parenthood, which operates the only abortion clinic in South Dakota, has pledged to sue over the measure, which would become law July 1. The clinic performs about 800 abortions a year.

The Planned Parenthood Federation of America has said the ban is the most sweeping restriction on abortion passed by any state in more than a decade.

The House passed the bill 50-18 on Friday. The Senate approved the measure 23-12 earlier this week.

Penalties for doctors
Under the measure, doctors could get up to five years in prison for performing an illegal abortion.

The governor said he believes it would be better to eliminate abortion in a series of steps, but some abortion opponents want a court challenge that could wipe out abortion in one fell swoop.

“I’ve indicated I’m pro-life and I do believe abortion is wrong, and that we should do everything we can to save lives,” Rounds said. “If this bill accomplishes that, then I am inclined to sign the bill into law.”

During debate on the measure, lawmakers were told that an anonymous donor has pledged to give the state $1 million to defend the abortion ban in court. The Legislature is setting up a special account to accept donations for the legal fight.

“I can tell you first-hand we’ve had people stopping in our office trying to drop off checks to promote the defense of this legislation already,” Rounds said.

Opponents seek exceptions for rape, incest
Opponents of the bill argued that abortion should at least be allowed in cases involving rape, incest and a threat to a women’s health.

If a woman who is raped becomes pregnant, the rapist would have the same rights to the child as the mother, said Krista Heeren-Graber, executive director of the South Dakota Network Against Family Violence and Sexual Assault.

“The idea the rapist could be in the child’s life ... makes the woman very, very fearful. Sometimes they need to have choice,” Heeren-Graber said.

yzf will be in here preaching in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...

What are you going to do about it, batman?

YAY

religion 1

common sense 0

And the christian response to that evil is to kill dopctors and bomb clinics.

Saw the front page of the local paper today. Abortion is now illegal in South Dakota.

hmm.... overpopulation here we come!!!

meddle : dude seriously lol, take that eye thing and delete it forever!

no, that is not the Christian response at all

Then maybe you should tell your buddies in the Christian Coalition to knock it the fuck off.

They make you look bad, and thats hard to do.

I don't have any friends in the "Christian Coalition", nor does anyone I know support anti abortion rallies or anything of the sort....we lead pretty quiet lives, as God commands of us

I Thessalonians 4

Finally then, brethren, we urge and exhort in the Lord Jesus that you should abound more and more, just as you received from us how you ought to walk and to please God; for you know what commandments we gave you through the Lord Jesus.

For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God; that no one should take advantage of and defraud his brother in this matter, because the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also forewarned you and testified. For God did not call us to uncleanness, but in holiness. Therefore he who rejects this does not reject man, but God, who has also given us His Holy Spirit.

But concerning brotherly love you have no need that I should write to you, for you yourselves are taught by God to love one another; and indeed you do so toward all the brethren who are in all Macedonia. But we urge you, brethren, that you increase more and more; that you also aspire to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you, that you may walk properly toward those who are outside, and that you may lack nothing.

how far the church of Christ in 2006 has fallen from this high calling!

Seriously, shut the FUCK UP. You are about as Christian as I am.

Edit: That's gonna end up in somebody's signature.

Seriously, shut the FUCK UP. You are about as Christian as I am.

Edit: That's gonna end up in somebody's signature.

Seriously, there are child molesters more Christian than you.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a104/kirinpoopy/abortiowned.jpg

anyone who supports abortion should be forced to perform one. :rofl:

that shit would be illegal overnight.

All I ever wanted, was to be...wanted.

http://www.somethingawful.com/firemancomics/aborted.htm

horrendous.

While I appreciate the wit, I'm not a fan of the picture myself. I don't have a problem seeing the federal abolishment of abortions. I don't agree but since the shift in power in the supreme court has changed I would bet the new bill will pass 5-4.

rough night kevin? mine was great

My night was wonderful, thanks... I'm just sick and tired of you passing judgement and trying to give us the "Christian viewpoint", when you are by far the most non-Christian person I have ever encountered.

Do we need to dig up your greatest hits from the RX-7 club?

You are not:

1) All-knowing
2) Righteous
3) Smarter than everyone here
4) Better than anyone here
5) In any position to call anything or anyone "worthless", "evil", "demonic" or any of the other bullshit you spew.

So, seriously, shut the fuck up. Stop talking the talk, and start walking the walk. You put up all these Bible excerpts to try to support your rambling non-sense, but guess what? I'm sure I can find plenty of Bible excerpts that can prove what you're doing definitely doesn't fall under the teachings of Jesus.

right when i saw that picture, the not yet a human's toes reminded me of baby corn.

http://www.theforumlounge.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1562&stc=1&d=1140983122

:)

god doesn't judge when that happens, science does.

SCIENCE FTW

"walk the walk" on an internet forum, that makes up 1% of my life?


Yes, even on an internet forum, even if it makes up 1% of your life.

Don't give the devil EVEN a foothold.

As it is written in Matthew 22:37 (And Mark 12:30, and Luke 10:27):

Then Jesus said to him, "'You will love the LORD your God with your whole heart [fig., your entire inner self] and with your whole soul and with your whole understanding.' [Deut 6:4,5] (ALT)

It is also written, in Galatians Chapter 5, verse 9; "A little leaven leavens the entire lump."

On the same topic, I encourage you to read 2nd Corinthians Chapter 10, verses 4 through 6, so that you may grow in the faith;

For the weapons of our warfare [are] not fleshly _but_ powerful in God for [the] tearing down of strongholds [or, fortresses], tearing down misleading arguments and every high place [fig., arrogance] lifting itself up against the knowledge of God, and bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being in readiness to punish every disobedience, whenever your* obedience is completed.


Again, I encourage you to produce good fruit in all that you do.

With Love in Christ Jesus, your servant,
- Jason

horrendous.
dude youre like the little brother of yzf... damn missionaries.

so science (frail and limited human understanding of the physical universe, limited by human senses and/or human technologies) trumps what the eternal God says, who created all things?

nothing wrong with science, but to say the human practice of "science" can and will answer ALL questions, including questions about origins, life after death, and the supernatural, is another form of man made religion....science doesn't go there, and it never will


science has answered the origin of life.

How is creation:

observable
testable
repeatable

hmmmmmmm?

god has the answer to the varying speed of light theory?

this passage is not a reference to pride and arrogance, but to fortresses/systems of ERROR, such as catholicism, islam, and any false religious system that opposes the truth

NIV reading

For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.


"Capture Every Thought"

Not nessisarily ment as an argument against arrogance, but the idea that EVERY thought and idea must be captured and made subservient to Christ.

In opposition to the idea of letting "1%" be unchristlike.

The text in brackets was not added by me for emphasis, but by the ALT, for clarificaiton. An idea similar to the italic text in most KJV and NKJV bibles.

How is creation:

observable
testable
repeatable

hmmmmmmm?

By nature, how is Creation any of those things? How could any system of thought apply creation to those ideas?

You cant "Repeat" Creation :)

No man can stand up and say "Let there be Light"

And no one has sucessfully made life from non-life (the Ameno-Acid ideas)

science has answered the origin of life.

Answering a question and answering it correctly are as far apart as the east is from the west :)

Haha, I'm not even remotely close either. Still a total mystery to me why God would love any of us :p


Thats a good verse, personally I've stumbled on "Salt" a quite few times though :p

If you think this forum is not gracious, you should have seen the people around Jesus!

Act 7:59 And they kept on stoning Stephen as he [was] calling on [the Lord] and saying, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!" (60) Then having placed the knees [fig., having knelt down], he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them!" And having said this, he fell asleep [fig., died]. (ALT)


Now THAT is a real man! :)

Anyway, me and my wife will pray for you man :)

TFL is no longer fun because of yzf.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a104/kirinpoopy/abortiowned.jpg

anyone who supports abortion should be forced to perform one. :rofl:

that shit would be illegal overnight.


I think it's a boy...... a well hung one at that.

Thank GOD, one less future horseman to compete with........

:)

god doesn't judge when that happens, science does.

SCIENCE FTW

science doesn't yet have an explanation of consciousness and self awareness. in other words, science does not attempt to determine when life begins.

political pressure and policy is the only thing determining that right now.

science doesn't yet have an explanation of consciousness and self awareness. in other words, science does not attempt to determine when life begins.

political pressure and policy is the only thing determining that right now.


alright, nobody knows when life begins.

Hearsay from 'books' won't give us the answer, either.

pope weighs in on the issue

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060227/hl_nm/pope_embryos_dc

Yeah, but he's the demonic leader of a satanic, false system, so you don't care what he thinks, right? It's all fake doctrine, according to YOU.

i didn't like the prior pope?

For one he was instrumental in putting a dent in the communists.

That alone is enough to wash away whatever u might not like about him.

it's not about "good works", or the fact that John Paul II was a "nice guy"...he was

the fact is he was part of a corrupt and idolatrous system....anyone who worships Mary (or any other "saint") is an idolater, and will have no place in the Kingdom of God

I think that was even written in latin, "I'm eternally yours, MARY!"

So, Mother Teresa is in hell?

He's into Mary......... well, of course.

Who wouldn't want a new car?

new car = virgin.

I'm talking Da Batman code........

more pics of the FD? with wing on?

braf

Hearsay from 'books' won't give us the answer, either.

i didn't say anything about the bible. i wasn't implying we should draw the answer from the bible. i was just stating the way things are now.

so what's the answer? who gets to decide? what do you personally think?

Mark, some food for thought. You'll probably agree that most people on the other side from your beliefs believe in abortion. Maybe if it stays legal they'll eventually wipe themselves form the planet. Then there will be nobody to lead you astray from your path to heaven.

:worship: :piss:

who is to say the life was 'lost', and not recalled according to God's plan?

no innocent life should be lost....who is to say if that child may be the next Franklin Graham??or the next:shocked:
meddle!!!!!!!!

lol....yes, what a loss that would be!

there would be more beer for others, though :)

Whats funny is that you do have a sense of humor burried somewhere in that thick noggin.

So, Mother Teresa is in hell?

Gonna answer this, Marky?

how would I know anyone's eternal fate?

I can only tell you if what someone believes lines up with God says in His Word, in terms of justification and sanctification, and that is only because I've spent the time to study and understand what the Bible says over the years

Umm, you have claimed to know it in this thread. Here, I'll refresh your memory:

it's not about "good works", or the fact that John Paul II was a "nice guy"...he was

the fact is he was part of a corrupt and idolatrous system....anyone who worships Mary (or any other "saint") is an idolater, and will have no place in the Kingdom of God

I think that was even written in latin, "I'm eternally yours, MARY!"

So, is Mother Teresa with God, or not?

I love it when you contradict yourself, Mark. C'mon, let's see the fancy footwork to try to get out of this.

no fancy footwork required, I try to stay away from comments about personal condemnation

Ok, did anyone else read this?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Well, he said "Try." Obviously doesnt mean he always does. He'll be the first to tell you no human is perfect :p

Yeah, but he's the demonic leader of a satanic, false system, so you don't care what he thinks, right? It's all fake doctrine, according to YOU.

Actually, Catholic doctorine (at least for most of history, seems to be changing a bit for the better recently) tends to be almost the polar opposite of scripture. It, and its acts, are directly preached against in many many scriptures.

So if YZF said that the Catholic doctorine was Satanic, he would be correct. :)

yes, I have said that Pope Benedict has impressed me with some of the things he has said, frankly I think he'll be short lived, because Rome is the center of false religion, and it always will be, culminating with the antichirst...not saying antichrist will be a pope, I doubt it, but the catholic church will align with his agenda, little question about that

you really have to wonder about some of this nonsense though http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/apost_letters/index_en.htm

"apostolic letter"??

see, they make a god out of him, that is not right!!

Where does it refer to him as a god....none of the apostles are gods? I guess I don't understand

apostolic letter - Document issued by the Pope or by a Vatican dicastery, usually about erecting or dividing mission territory, designating basilicas, approving religious congregations, and other uses at a comparable level of importance.

Ok, did anyone else read this?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I didn't even bother to quote him when I read it. I knew it'd be a repost.

fine, "apostle" then....

the pope is neither

Your reading comprehension lacks one thing...comprehension. No where does it call him an apostle either...


in the true church of Christ of 2006, there are only evangelists, elders, and pastor-teachers, there are no apostles and no prophets....and certainly no popes, cardinals, bishops, priests, and the like

And that pertains to anything because? Oh that's right your belief system is the right one because it is yours.

Anyone that says Mother Theresa is not spending time with GOD and/or is in Hell deserves to be on the receiving end of Satan's pitch-forked cock.

I see her more of a true person of GOD than the fuckers that hang out at some religious HQ such as the Vatican or God's TV studio where the fucker is asking u to touch the TV screen and u shall be healed (after u call the 800 number on the bottom and open up ur wallets).

:ditto:

The said truth about religious zealots like YZF-R1 is that they are so into their version of the bible and intepretation of GOD's words that they lose site of the fact that being a good human being like Mother Theresa, benefits the people that she helps and the world than killing each other and/or talking shit about other religious beliefs (even within each respective sects).

As far as I'm concern, she is what ALL so-called self-proclaimed religious zealots should follow as an example.

There are those that talk a huge religious debate like YZF, while there are others that actually help others in their day-to-day life such as Mother Theresa.

Folks like YZF might be quick to criticize the Catholic Church for making folks like her a Saint for her good deeds and great sacrafices will be the same ones that are closer to Satan than they realize.

YZF isn't criticizing the fact that they sainted mother theresa. he's criticizing the fact that they have saints at all.

there's also this little theological/philosophical problem.

if you do good works for the selfish motivation of getting into heaven, it doesn't get you into heaven.

you have to do good works for the sake of doing those good works.

its the difference between a selfish motivation and a giving one, even though the *act* is the same.

you see why there is an conceptual problem with the catholic doctrine?

although something tells me mother theresa falls on the more 'graceful' side of that division.

while you look at porn?

alain, give me a break, what the heck do YOU do to help ANYONE?



I criticize the catholic system for it's long track record of false doctrine....I freely admit there are some wonderful people in that system, but the systrem is corrupt, and it always has been


I never said I helped anyone, aside from this one time when I introduced a Mormon gal to orgasms and her G-spot. She doesn't go to that cult anymore.

My point is that if ur so quick to pass judgement on other religons and sects with the negative outweighing the positive (no surprise here), proclaim that ur bible is the "true" version (any religon have done) u mine as well live up to being a good christian.

Avoiding sinning, like fornicating is one thing.

Actually going out and "saving" folks from eternal damnation and/or their miserable lives is even better.

if you do good works for the selfish motivation of getting into heaven, it doesn't get you into heaven.

you have to do good works for the sake of doing those good works.

its the difference between a selfish motivation and a giving one, even though the *act* is the same.



well, that's a no brainer.

so YZF is preaching that he is a better than average person due to his beliefs in GOD, while on the other hand he has threatened people's lives.

Sounds like an act to me.

YZF mine as well get ready for Hell.

Satan will let u have loud obnoxious rockets like the FD and his bike down here, where there is actual ground for the wheels to kick up cursed soil.

Up in GOD's hood, u get the cloud-hugging solar-powered glider.

Let's face it.
YZF's soul is about as dirty as the rest of us, if not dirtier.

when you're perfect, you can comment on my life

and when ur perfect, u can comment on mines and others.

see how ur "views" backfire on u?

from ur religous post u certainly imply that ur above all that don't prescribe to ur "version" of the truth.

i don't think there is any question that u know "ur version" of the bible better than others.

U've been questioned why u think ur bible is the right one, where there are countless other versions, interpretations and so forth out there.

Ur answer is not good enough, the best that u have come up with is that "it's the right one because I said so and have been told so."

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damn, it won't let me link tranny porn.

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Just look at the example of the Koran's 72 virgins being translated incorrectly.

Oh, that's right.

Ur translated text (admission that it's already been adulterated by man) is not immune.

what's the matter, no rebuttal?

no.

damn, it won't let me link tranny porn.

:rofl:

Funniest quote of the day!

:rofl:

Funniest quote of the day!Well BATMAN, YZF and I are the only funny folks on this board.

I would replace YZF with jimlab.

and batman with yzf

I would replace YZF with jimlab.

Jim only pops in everyonce in a while. YZF is here making me laugh form 8am till 3am everyday..

I would replace YZF with jimlab.
I agree. Alteast jimlab doesn't force beliefs on others just to get attention and to start arguements.

I never understood how posting a thread for discussion is "forcing" anyone to do anything

am I missing something here?


'forcing' was a bad choice of words.....Its more like 'spamming'.