haha, you guys are gay.......and I did block meddle.........i kinda got a bit tired of his weak, failed attempts to piss me off.

it's always the same:

start with some random Spanish name, insert picking something ( strawberries, tomatoes, cotton etc. etc.) and followed by other sort of rcists remark.....

at one point I fought back but after making him my bitch every time I just got bored and he bacame just an annoyance. Why waste my time on someone who is clearly intellectually inferior?

He has an alcohol problem and loves it, he has some sociopathic tendencies and he only attacks me on those days that he feels inadequate about himself ( perhaps some Latino pointed and laughed and said something in spanish towards him......or his GFs started jocking bigger, browner cocks.) but in the end he tries to make himself feel better by harrassing me..........which always ends in failure and he just stops posting........

by blocking him I avoid reading his non-sensical, alcohol driven, meth-induced anger problems about his inadequacies......


he still wears the collar that reads : Madrx7racer's bitch.


sorry if i'm robbing the rest of you of good entertainment.......you should have seen him when an ex of mine popped into the rx7club to talk shit about me.......he loved and still got owned by me.........lol................

Pancho, I spent more at dinner tonight than your fat ass makes in a month harvesting fruit. Your chubby girlfriend is the type that I would meet ina bar and fuck in the alley before i went home with a real women. You have nothing on me. Neither intelligence, "internet ownage skillZZ" relevance to the rotary community, even the right to breath air.

Keep driving the laughable turd you're so proud of. Hang more ill fitting tacky body panels on it. if you keep it up, you may even get to 4-5 different colors on that rustbucket. i'm sure your gf is proud to pimp the barrio in that fly ass hoopty. Please continue to update us on your junkyard FC project. we all are exited to see you break 200hp on that mean machine. Also, someone should quote this so that fat little wetback can see it.



Since petty innuhnet arguments are what makes this place near and dear to my heart, I figured this would be a good time to take people off ignore and demonstrate said ease of ownage for those of us who weren't blessed enough to have witnessed it five years ago on the 7 club.

Have at it:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Alex-7/3513_2379_Haupt.jpg

*Takes out his lounge chair, popcorn and waits...

*Takes out his computer chair, Mr.Pickle and waits*

You guys are waiting for nothing. He put Meddle on ignore...its obvious he can't stand the heat. If his"weak, failed attempts" didn't bother him, why ignore? Madrx7racer doesn't want any of Meddle. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen Madrx7racer "own" anybody.

You guys are waiting for nothing. He put Meddle on ignore...its obvious he can't stand the heat. If his"weak, failed attempts" didn't bother him, why ignore? Madrx7racer doesn't want any of Meddle. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen Madrx7racer "own" anybody.


+1

It seems.

Is that the guy that dates christi aka cryptkeeper?

:peace:

Is that the guy that dates christi aka cryptkeeper?
No, his girl's chest is in his avatar...note the angles. :D

http://www.theforumlounge.com/image.php?u=1198&dateline=1164188125

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Alex-7/3513_2379_Haupt.jpg


The king is waiting patiently.

So why are they mad at each other? I didn't read everything in the last thread.

So why are they mad at each other? I didn't read everything in the last thread.

I've been owning that fucking ricer since 04 or whenever he joined.

Before the biglist, and in tandem with its existence, rx7club was a stl rotary website. I've been on there since before the site was restored in 01.

Why do you feel the need to have to own him?

Why do you feel the need to have to own him?

I think it all started with his broke ass tlaking about sueing someone.

I don't remember exactly.

hahaha.....you know how you used to enjoy destroying honda ricers everywhere you went? then at one point you kept destroying them to the point that it got boring? then it just becomes an annoyance to see and hear them rev at every light??

same applies to meddle...........It's just annoying now.......and WONNER just cuz you were not around when it happened doesn't meant it didn't happen.

I have all his contact info ( how I know he's two faced..he was desperately trying to get rid of some parts and he started licking my balls when i told him i was interested) and all he has on me is that I'm latino, 230 lbs and am PROUD of my crappy looking FC that I built from scratch out of my old TII parts ( which I spend more money on than he has in his FC)........

hahaha.....you know how you used to enjoy destroying honda ricers everywhere you went? then at one point you kept destroying them to the point that it got boring? then it just becomes an annoyance to see and hear them rev at every light??

how many times will he say the same shit in an attempt to piss me off? going off on him and making him stop posting and go away for a while because he has nothing else to say just became a very boring routine.........

same applies to meddle...........It's just annoying now.......and WONNER just cuz you were not around when it happened doesn't meant it didn't happen.

I have all his contact info and he has nothing on me........except that he knows I'm latino.........230 lbs and I'm proud of my POS FC cuz I put it together after i parted out my TII.

Most modern minivans will run with your stock ass t2. Who are you kidding?

And why would I bother obtaining your contact info or locating you? Why don't you ring me up? My numbers and addrerss are posted all over the midwest section.

I think it all started with his broke ass tlaking about sueing someone.

I don't remember exactly.

So at this point it's just because you are an angry asshole?

haha............so you're talking shit about a project car that isn't even remotely complete yet...........as I said......your attempts are weak.

So at this point it's just because you are an angry asshole?

Pretty much. It's a public forum. If he wants to open his mouth on rx7club, and sound like a moron. He can surely take the ridicule.

haha............so you're talking shit about a project car that isn't even remotely complete yet

Exactly, and oyur driving around in that multicolored hoopty!!!!!

Maybe oyu should go back to stalking me. Please call me. You can interview me on my favorite color, restaurant, sexual positions etc.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! My fiancee and I commute in the NA every day.........HAHAHAHAHA My GTUsT is NOT daily driven!! NOR multicolored!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA

i think you're supposed to KNOW what you're talking about before you post stupid shit!!!!!!

meddle........quit while you're ahead......there are still a few ppl here that think you're cool.......quit before I make them see the true douche you are.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! My fiancee and I commute in the NA every day.........HAHAHAHAHA My GTUsT is NOT daily driven!! NOR multicolored!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA

i think you're supposed to KNOW what you're talking about before you post stupid shit!!!!!!

Thats sweet that you two share beaters. Couldn't borrow the '78 muraled suburban to pimp the barrio?

Thats sweet that you two share beaters. Couldn't borrow the '78 muraled suburban to pimp the barrio?
ADM!!!!!!!! you need new material.............this is at least the 10th time I've read that from you...........come on man.....make this worthwile for me........this is why I blocked you........you don't have anything intelligent to insult me with.........you continue to dissappoint.


and to answer your question: I work 6 miles East of my house and she works 5 North .......commuting makes the most sense........at least to smart ppl........perhaps that's why you were perplexed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/madrx7racer/forum%20insults/failure.jpg

here are the pics.....don't hate on the GTUs or GTUsT.......if I hadn't lost my TII to an idiot drifter fag I'd have a sick ass S5 TII that would make YOUR car look like a POS.....no matter what it is( unless you have an FD......the FD is the sexiest car on the face of the earth IMHO)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/madrx7racer/our%207s/RAJAH/my7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/madrx7racer/our%207s/RAJAH/bcc6cffc.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/madrx7racer/our%207s/REX/Body/11-6.jpg
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it's not a looker but it's not meant to be pretty........but as I said.......you're a moron for talking shit about an unfinished project...sorry my project doesn't impress you but in all reality it's a car I'm building for ME........it's not meant to impress you......it's meant to keep a smile on my face no matter where I go.


now............wasn't this supposed to be entertaining?? this is why I blocked you......what a way time.......time typing to a sack of meat devoid of intelligence or wit.


so let's go over it:

you already used the suburban
the fat remarks
the random latino name(s)
the reference to the agricultural workers that keep the fruit in your supermarket
the reference to my car
the lawsuit
you flaunting around the fact that you have money ( which in most real life cases consists of a poor guy who needs to flaunt the little he has to feel like he's SOMEONE important or cool)
I GAVE YOU the ex-GF on the RX7club


that leaves you with

mother/father comments
sister/brother
oooooh grandmother ones are fucked up......i doubt you're witty enough for one though

other than that You have absolutely nothing else to say.........

FC's + FB's suck period. They're 80's camaros little brother.

Happy holidays.

FC's + FB's suck period. They're 80's camaros little brother.

I agree with zero

dated beer cans....ready for the crusher

Fuck you. Both of you!

oh.....and for the record, the reason why Meddle and I hate each other is this:

I posted a long time ago about how irresponsible and retarded drunk drivers are.......meddle, much like J-rat, took offence and started shit with me..........he defended drinking and driving and went on and on about how I'm a pussy and so forth because I got hit head on by a drunk driver......

he got pissy cuz I called him out on his alcoholism and stupidity......and here we are.

meh........those who can't appreciate the attributes and style of the SA/FB and FC aren't tru enthusiasts.....they just like cars that look pretty.

meh........those who can't appreciate the attributes and style of the SA/FB and FC aren't tru enthusiasts.....they just like cars that look pretty.

Where are you going with this? What about an rx-7 makes you enthusiastic?

Let's see:
1: they're ugly.
2: they're the most unreliable car ever made.
3: the parts are expensive, especially for the car.
4: engine rebuilds are always one rev around the corner, and cost twice as much as any regular car, about 4-5 times as much as a honda.
5: the weight distribution is "good", but for good suspension, all that shit is years old and needs to be replaced, so you lose that argument too.

They're piece of shit money pits.

Have a Merry Christmas!

oh.....and for the record, the reason why Meddle and I hate each other is this:

I posted a long time ago about how irresponsible and retarded drunk drivers are.......meddle, much like J-rat, took offence and started shit with me..........he defended drinking and driving and went on and on about how I'm a pussy and so forth because I got hit head on by a drunk driver......

he got pissy cuz I called him out on his alcoholism and stupidity......and here we are.

It wasn't about praising drunken driving, it was condeming sobriety checkpoints you flat headed wetback.

It wasn't about praising drunken driving, it was condeming sobriety checkpoints you flat headed wetback.hahaha.......i bet you forgot about you hoping my whole family got run over or crashed into by a drunk driver right?? consider yourself blocked again........as I said.....you never have anything intelligent to post and you resort to the same, lame, insults that you have used countless times in the past..........as I told everyone before.......you're not worth my time......just like the HOnda bois are not worth my gas.


I think you're now eligible for the next dog tag from me: Madrx7racer's drunken stupid bitch.

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They're piece of shit money pits.

all old project cars are pos money pits.
and you left out the fact that the FB and FC suspension design is archaic and inferior.

the FC is unreliable simply because it's old, not because it's inherently unreliable.

n/a 13b can hit 200k+ before needing rebuild. my friend has a 175k original, compression is fine. only problem is the slowness, and the fact that everything else on the car is worn out.

turbo... well. life expectancy isn't so great. on the plus side, i always thought rotary rebuilds were cheap. if you built a piston motor to handle boost to 300hp or so, it would cost alot more than $1000-2000, even if you do most of your own labor.

Lol... what do stock tii's make at the flywheel, 190? and n/a's about 140?

GS-R integras put out 180+, Type-R's ~200 iirc... and both will last 3 times as long as 13bt. Go ahead and let those "honda bois" bust your ass... dumping money into fcs/fbs is actually more stupid than dumping it into a honda to "Race."

all old project cars are pos money pits.
and you left out the fact that the FB and FC suspension design is archaic and inferior.

the FC is unreliable simply because it's old, not because it's inherently unreliable.

n/a 13b can hit 200k+ before needing rebuild. my friend has a 175k original, compression is fine. only problem is the slowness, and the fact that everything else on the car is worn out.

turbo... well. life expectancy isn't so great. on the plus side, i always thought rotary rebuilds were cheap. if you built a piston motor to handle boost to 300hp or so, it would cost alot more than $1000-2000, even if you do most of your own labor.

A saab went a million miles too... but is that typical? No. Don't give me that bullshit, rotary engines TYPICALLY require a rebuild much sooner than a similar piston engine. Furthermore, they require more maintenance... and if it gets a little warm ONCE... kiss it bye-bye.

Where are you going with this? What about an rx-7 makes you enthusiastic?

Let's see:
1: they're ugly.
2: they're the most unreliable car ever made.
3: the parts are expensive, especially for the car.
4: engine rebuilds are always one rev around the corner, and cost twice as much as any regular car, about 4-5 times as much as a honda.
5: the weight distribution is "good", but for good suspension, all that shit is years old and needs to be replaced, so you lose that argument too.

They're piece of shit money pits.

1. so is your mom but your dad saw something in her.
2. learn to take care of your car and it will last a long time if not longer than a piston engine
3. not really..........
4. hahahaha........see #2 and $1600 for a rebuilt motor (including core)doesn't seem expensive to me...
5. ummm.....see #2.......it's called maintenance.......of course shit is old......you have to replace it. Only a moron compares an RX7 to a Honda....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

A saab went a million miles too... but is that typical? No. Don't give me that bullshit, rotary engines TYPICALLY require a rebuild much sooner than a similar piston engine. Furthermore, they require more maintenance... and if it gets a little warm ONCE... kiss it bye-bye.

no argument there. the margin of error is much lower for tuning.

and you are right. piston engines do not require the same attention to detail when it comes to maintenance.

lol...........what a great Vs. bout we have here..........

well you gotta tell it like it is

that doesn't change the fact that i still love rotary engines <3

Lol... what do stock tii's make at the flywheel, 190? and n/a's about 140?

GS-R integras put out 180+, Type-R's ~200 iirc... and both will last 3 times as long as 13bt. Go ahead and let those "honda bois" bust your ass... dumping money into fcs/fbs is actually more stupid than dumping it into a honda to "Race."

unfair comparison btw.

the type R engine is an incredible engine. honda makes awesome n/a engines, no doubt about it. b18c5 is basically a fully built n/a high compression motor. not your typical engine. i believe porting and assembly steps were done by hand. to be honest i don't know much about the GSR motor so i'll leave it at that.

now if you want to rag on the FC 13b, compare it to a sr20det. 30mpg, 150k+ and handles 300+whp on stock internals.

Originally Posted by Zero
Lol... what do stock tii's make at the flywheel, 190? and n/a's about 140?

GS-R integras put out 180+, Type-R's ~200 iirc... and both will last 3 times as long as 13bt. Go ahead and let those "honda bois" bust your ass... dumping money into fcs/fbs is actually more stupid than dumping it into a honda to "Race."

tell you what, champ....go get yourself one of those hondas....go get a type r teg...lets go hit the drags. Oh, sorry, I forgot, that front wheel drive really sucks ass when it comes to trying to launch right. OK, scratch that....lets hit a road course...no, wait....sorry again...because the FC handles much better in the turns than a FWD teg.

Obviously you dont understand the fact that even a type r integra is nothing more than a civic chassis with a better engine. Sure, they welded the frame a bit better and removed a bit of weight, but the FC was designed to handle better from the start. And it does. When looking at the facts here, you have two choices...

1--pick a car that was designed with built-in handling abilities and an engine that supports a lot of modifications, OR

2--pick a car that is basically a civic that has been slightly redone with a stronger engine....

I'll take the one that was designed to do it better, thanks. The only way to really make a civic handle is to pour a sizeable chunk of change into it....at that point, why bother with a civic?? If I have to put all that cash into it to make it worth a damn, I'm just gonna go start with a real car instead. Hell, my T-Bird supercoupe handles better than a civic....and it weighs over 3000 pounds....that should tell you something....

you might as well be talking about the neon SRT-4....at the end of the day it is still a neon chassis, with all the faults of a neon chassis. Sure, its got more power, but there are so many better choices out there....

Have fun out turning a go kart with a FC.

Have fun out turning a go kart with a FC.

hey retard--are you on crack??

how the fuck do you go from cars to a go kart? You could have just as easily made the same point by saying "have fun outrunning an F-15 Eagle with that FD..."

Nice comparison, dumbass....next time you try to have a thought, dont.

1. so is your mom but your dad saw something in her.
2. learn to take care of your car and it will last a long time if not longer than a piston engine


LOL you'll start blowing them if you ever make any power one day.

Your the one driving around with an "safc (untuned)". :bowdown:



But for what its worth, I threw my 1st gen together with a block I had sitting for 2 years that I pulled out of one of my t2s. It has maybe 90k on it. The whole goal of building a 10sec 1st gen for under 4k didn't lend itself to a fresh rebuild. Motor has in spec comp, pulls 17lbs vacuum and trap 117 on 9-10 psi. With damn near no timing because I was breaking up terribly last time i had it on the dyno.

Gains 32mph between the 1/8th and 1/4. !!!

tell you what, champ....go get yourself one of those hondas....go get a type r teg...lets go hit the drags. Oh, sorry, I forgot, that front wheel drive really sucks ass when it comes to trying to launch right. OK, scratch that....lets hit a road course...no, wait....sorry again...because the FC handles much better in the turns than a FWD teg.

um... LOL

have you ever driven against an integra type R on a road course??? i think you will be unpleasantly surprised.

hey retard--are you on crack??

how the fuck do you go from cars to a go kart? You could have just as easily made the same point by saying "have fun outrunning an F-15 Eagle with that FD..."

Nice comparison, dumbass....next time you try to have a thought, dont.
Try racing an EG civic or an Integra Type-R or a even a GS-R with the same power your rx7 is producing on the road course. They'll whoop your ass around. FWD doesn't mean it handles like shit. DO a lil research, you ignorant fool.

Arrogant rx7s owners... Spitting shit when people don't agree with them.

BTW: Read carefully and use that fucking head of yours before you respond next time.

not to mention the convertible......the best handling vert produced when compared with similar verts ( celica, 240SuX...)

Mazda has always stayed in touch with its buyers and has been a leader in innovation. In 1978 the first generation 12A powered RX-7 took the world by storm, exceeding production expectations and causing traffic jams at the dealerships. The rotary engine had found its true home and Mazda had found the heart of the sports car lover. The RX-7 achieved immediate success with "Car of the Year" awards across the globe and major racing victories at events such as SPA and Daytona. The RX-7 made its own name on the Australian circuit with victory in the Australian touring car championships of 1983 and 84. A 2nd outright at the 1983 Bathurst 1000 during the height of the V8 era proved just how formidable the rotary could be, giving cause to the many traditional racers changing their V8 cars for rotary power.


A new fuel injected 6 port version of the race proven 13B rotary became standard equipment for the second generation or series IV RX-7 of 1986. Moving up market to become a more civilised sports car, the 13B rotary was given a turbo option boasting 137 kW by employing a newly developed twin scroll turbocharger to take full advantage of the engine's strong exhaust pulsing. The turbo was obviously the production 'rocket' factory had intended it to be and was now competing against the established marquees on the world market. The RX-7 was voted "The sports car to own for the everyday driver" by much of the world's motoring press. Refining an already excellent product, the 1989 RX-7 kept Mazda ahead of the pack of ever emerging sports cars. With 146 Kw on tap from the totally re-developed 13B turbo engine, RX-7 sales again surged ahead of the field. Notable publicity from local Mazda racer Gary Waldon winning numerous production car titles fulfilled the 'win on Sunday sell on Monday' cliche.





without this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/madrx7racer/RX7%20stuff/1st%20Gen/yellowSA.jpg

or this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/madrx7racer/RX7%20stuff/2nd%20Gen/saru_fc_200611_001.jpg


you'd never have this:
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a completely different league than your avg. grocery getter 1.8L anything.....new car may outpower it, outhandle it, and look better doing it....stock for stock........but that's the difference that comes with 20 years of automotive advances.....when well maintained and modified these cars can outlast a piston motor and out-perform it...

there are several types of 7 owners:

the enthusiast that knows the history, apreciates the racing heritage, and the attributes and defects of every single RX-7 but still loves the car due to it's uniqueness and ability to stand out in a sea of cars.

the guy who buys what's pretty, beats it to a pulp. doesn't maintain it and complains that this POS didn't last because it is a faulty motor and resorts to the good old trusty v8 because it's "more reliable" which really means: "all I do is puts in that there thingy called gas and it runs for years....oil change every whenever i remember..........and bam!! super duper reliabilitay right dur!"

the guy who bought it because everyone has one and it's RWD yo! and it's in Initial D, can pull off mad doriftos if you mash on the gas!!! uber l33t machine.

the guy/girl that has NO clue that they drive an RX-7.


every single one can eventually be an enthusiast..........some are just to close-minded to even try to see another POV.

there are several types of 7 owners:

the enthusiast that knows the history, apreciates the racing heritage, and the attributes and defects of every single RX-7 but still loves the car due to it's uniqueness and ability to stand out in a sea of cars.

the guy who buys what's pretty, beats it to a pulp. doesn't maintain it and complains that this POS didn't last because it is a faulty motor and resorts to the good old trusty v8 because it's "more reliable" which really means: "all I do is puts in that there thingy called gas and it runs for years....oil change every whenever i remember..........and bam!! super duper reliabilitay right dur!"

the guy who bought it because everyone has one and it's RWD yo! and it's in Initial D, can pull off mad doriftos if you mash on the gas!!! uber l33t machine.

the guy/girl that has NO clue that they drive an RX-7.


.

Wow, thanks for the thoughtful write up?

What about the person who thinks they're a lot of fun, so he cuts them up and builds them, tears the shit out of them for a year, then parts them out and scraps or sells the shell?

SNTP.............seriously......shut up.

FWD is the standard int he automotive industry because it is cheaper to make a FWD car......it understeers like hell which many see as a benefit for MOST DRIVERS......the front tire has to proportion grip between lateral (cornering) and longtitudinal(accelerating) so you'll evetually reach your tire's maximum grip and lose it the harder you accelerate.

Bwahahaha....imagine being in a FWD car and you underestimate the tighness of the turn......you are come in too hot.........under decent braking.........and then you turn the wheel.........BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
in a RWD you can at least counter steer and possibly pull out if you know how to........have you ever seen a FWD car countersteering???? HAHAHA

Do you need an excuse to like a car? Everybody likes it for their own reasons.

I'm the history geek and the one that likes to go cruising. More power someday, but right now, it's all about the drive to get there.

At its time, the 7 was a great sports car, it's time has come and gone. All the cars are aging and losing what they originally had. Now we've got to dump ass loads of money into them just so we can have fun in the car we like to drive. It seems to me a lot more 7 owners have a sentiment towards their car that a lot of others do not.

We can sit here and bitch back and forth about 7s and cars, but let's all agree on one thing. Sports cars, no matter how old, condition, or power always leave you wanting more.

Wow, thanks for the thoughtful write up?

What about the person who thinks they're a lot of fun, so he cuts them up and builds them, tears the shit out of them for a year, then parts them out and scraps or sells the shell?
ok.....add them to the list......I call those ppl " those who increase the value by limiting the supply.......


supply and demand

that's why SA's and FBs are dirt cheap........FC's are cheap to decent(5-6K for a nice TII) and the reason why the FD will be so expensive in the next 10 years......CYM FD's are rare as hell.....

by tearing the shit out of them and parting it out they're doing two things:

they're shrinking the supply of RX7's little by little AND increasing the supply of RX7 parts little by little......

win/win.

I plan on parting my soon to be departed FC as best I can, I figure the frame is junk from rust, but there are lots of little pieces that still work just fine.

SNTP.............seriously......shut up.

FWD is the standard int he automotive industry because it is cheaper to make a FWD car......it understeers like hell which many see as a benefit for MOST DRIVERS......the front tire has to proportion grip between lateral (cornering) and longtitudinal(accelerating) so you'll evetually reach your tire's maximum grip and lose it the harder you accelerate.

Bwahahaha....imagine being in a FWD car and you underestimate the tighness of the turn......you are come in too hot.........under decent braking.........and then you turn the wheel.........BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
in a RWD you can at least counter steer and possibly pull out if you know how to........have you ever seen a FWD car countersteering???? HAHAHA
RWD's tend to go into corners faster than FWD's, but FWD's pull out of corners faster. Go ask any road course drivers... GO ask Damian or anyone that autocross or goes to the road course. You under estimate FWD's, especially Honda's.... Maybe you should do a little research on them, look at the SCCA results too while youre at it.

People like you and skydiver make rx7 owners look bad.

Damian is short. And he won a folding chair at MRR '06, bastard. I was supposed to get that!! He seems cool though.

I was actually pretty impressed at the Pro SCCA integras last year........... but the only reason why the FWD does well NOW is mainly due to the research and development motorsports had to do when FWD was introduced in the 80s.........the learning and upgrade curve on FWD was ridiculous......they had big problems that needed to be addressed fast in order to use them to race competitively.........

remember just because it can be MADE a decently handling machine doesn't mean it beats the car DESIGNED to be a fast well-handling machine.


you make young ppl look stupid.

and you never answered......have you ever seen a FWD countersteer? other than in cartoons?

Yes i've seen FWD's countersteer and understeer. We're not even talking about the history of FWD, stop going in the wrong direction. You're just angry because you've alway looked down on FWD's, but now you realize they have more potential than you think they do. So you're (and skydiver) here throwing insults.

RWD's tend to go into corners faster than FWD's, but FWD's pull out of corners faster. Go ask any road course drivers... GO ask Damian or anyone that autocross or goes to the road course. You under estimate FWD's, especially Honda's.... Maybe you should do a little research on them, look at the SCCA results too while youre at it.

People like you and skydiver make rx7 owners look bad.


STNP.. SHUT UP. YOU ARE A FOOL.

first of all you are another magazine, arm chair racer.
16yo know it all that don't even own a rear wheel drive car.

so stop embarassing yourself and SHUT THE FUCK UP.

FACT: FWD DO NOT HANDLE BETTER THAN RWD. PERIOD

^ :rofl:

Yes i've seen FWD's countersteer and understeer. We're not even talking about the history of FWD, stop going in the wrong direction. You're just angry because you've alway looked down on FWD's, but now you realize they have more potential than you think they do. So you're (and skydiver) here throwing insults.

STOP BEING

:gay2:

stop tring to argue fwd > rwd. not only are you making yourself
look like a dick sucking idiot. you are WRONG.. simple as that.

name 1 high horse power "Sport" car with FWD??
Don't say Porsche911Turbo, its awd..

make my day little boy.

Learn how to read. Did i ever say FWD > RWD ? Nope. You're a joke. Fuck off.

Learn how to read. Did i ever say FWD > RWD ? Nope. You're a joke. Fuck off.

as soon as you find a CLUE..

btw: you sound just like your mom.

You got owned.
:rofl:

1. so is your mom but your dad saw something in her.
2. learn to take care of your car and it will last a long time if not longer than a piston engine
3. not really..........
4. hahahaha........see #2 and $1600 for a rebuilt motor (including core)doesn't seem expensive to me...
5. ummm.....see #2.......it's called maintenance.......of course shit is old......you have to replace it. Only a moron compares an RX7 to a Honda....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You're a complete fucking moron... "your mom"... give me a fuckin' break, keep gettin digitally ass-raped by meddle you worthless mexican moron.

BTW, as noted in the other posts... the litte honda's you're talking shit about (gs-r, type-r, probably even an si!), can pretty much outperform any tii fc and especially an n/a FC.

Is it smart to put money into hondas? I don't think so... but at least they'll fucking run longer than 50,000 miles between rebuilds and cost about half as much to do so... much more dumb to put money into turd fc's and fb's.

Try racing an EG civic or an Integra Type-R or a even a GS-R with the same power your rx7 is producing on the road course. They'll whoop your ass around. FWD doesn't mean it handles like shit. DO a lil research, you ignorant fool.

Arrogant rx7s owners... Spitting shit when people don't agree with them.

BTW: Read carefully and use that fucking head of yours before you respond next time.

Indeed, rx-7 owners think their cars are made of gold. The FD is pretty bad ass performance wise... but 2nd gens? give me a fuckin' break.

140 hp n/a, 200 hp turbo. As far as handling, have fun replacing every suspension part on those 20 year old turds. Drag racing? That's where FWD fails from dead stop... road-racing > drag racing, any day.

Face it, those things have seen their day... it's STUPID to dump money into an FC (if you're looking for performance.)

actually SNTP is right

if you ever go road race you learn that
rwd tends to be faster in slower out
fwd tends to be slower in faster out
understeer (aka stability) lets you get on the gas much earlier in the turn.
rwd has better balance and can carry more speed into the initial section of the turn.

but enough talk! how about a video?
top setup n/a k20 eg6 vs. comptech supercharged s2000 on a twisty track. who wins?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpB5nDvwZMk
note that 200hp eg6 had a faster lap time than the 400hp nsx.

nobody is arguing that fwd is better. but its simplistic, if not downright ignorant, to shrug off a car just b/c its fwd. that would be like a v8'r shrugging off a rx7 just because its rotary.

Indeed, rx-7 owners think their cars are made of gold. The FD is pretty bad ass performance wise... but 2nd gens? give me a fuckin' break.

140 hp n/a, 200 hp turbo. As far as handling, have fun replacing every suspension part on those 20 year old turds. Drag racing? That's where FWD fails from dead stop... road-racing > drag racing, any day.

Face it, those things have seen their day... it's STUPID to dump money into an FC (if you're looking for performance.)

Dude, it's just a car, chill.

Try racing an EG civic or an Integra Type-R or a even a GS-R with the same power your rx7 is producing on the road course. They'll whoop your ass around. FWD doesn't mean it handles like shit. DO a lil research, you ignorant fool.

Arrogant rx7s owners... Spitting shit when people don't agree with them.

BTW: Read carefully and use that fucking head of yours before you respond next time.

you are such a fuckwad--I replied to the post about a fucking gokart, and you quote that to bitch about this??

As for the handling thing--AT NO TIME did I EVER say that it doesnt handle because it's FWD, you fucknut. The fact is simple--the civic is NOT a car that has sport-intended suspension. They stiffened it up a bit for the type R teg, but just like I said, YOU ARE STILL STARTING WITH A CIVIC DESIGN YOU MORON.

Compare this to the suspension design of the FC. It was designed, without question, better for such purposes than a civic was. Do you doubt that?? Of course you do--youre the asshole that thinks you know shit when you post about a fucking gokart.

In any event, about the post concerning "the 20 year old suspension"....if you are taking your car on a road course with 20 year old suspension and have not changed out the bushings and done the needed work first, you DESERVE to get beaten by a civic. But I have something you obviously dont-common sense. I would NEVER race a car that was in that kind of shape. Perhaps you would. That's your problem, zero, not mine.

"those things have seen their day"....that's a retarded comment. Who are you to determine what someone else should spend their money on? Whether you like it or not, an FC that hs kept in good shape is far more capable than a civic that is kept in good shape. Start with the mods and it can get very interesting. But in any case, it's their car and their money, so dont think that your opinion somehow means something to everyone else, just like I am sure mine doesnt. Hell, how many people go on and on about how DSMs are a total waste?? I think they are, with all the issues they have....but you can bet your ass that there are some really nice one out there that are really fast....

On top of this, you need to consider the driver--more ricer kids are gonna pick a civic or teg than a 7, specifically because of cost issues. How many of them go out and get a civic and slap all that shit on it, like a park bench-sized wing? THAT is a waste of money. Taking an economy car and trying to make it into a sports car with a few minor changes is likewise not very effective.....the chassis, the suspension design, everything about that car was designed for ECONOMY....so you add some horsepower and take out a little weight--if you think that is all thats needed to make a race car, you got troubles, mang....

you are such a fuckwad--I replied to the post about a fucking gokart, and you quote that to bitch about this??

As for the handling thing--AT NO TIME did I EVER say that it doesnt handle because it's FWD, you fucknut. The fact is simple--the civic is NOT a car that has sport-intended suspension. They stiffened it up a bit for the type R teg, but just like I said, YOU ARE STILL STARTING WITH A CIVIC DESIGN YOU MORON.

Compare this to the suspension design of the FC. It was designed, without question, better for such purposes than a civic was. Do you doubt that?? Of course you do--youre the asshole that thinks you know shit when you post about a fucking gokart.

In any event, about the post concerning "the 20 year old suspension"....if you are taking your car on a road course with 20 year old suspension and have not changed out the bushings and done the needed work first, you DESERVE to get beaten by a civic. But I have something you obviously dont-common sense. I would NEVER race a car that was in that kind of shape. Perhaps you would. That's your problem, zero, not mine.

"those things have seen their day"....that's a retarded comment. Who are you to determine what someone else should spend their money on? Whether you like it or not, an FC that hs kept in good shape is far more capable than a civic that is kept in good shape. Start with the mods and it can get very interesting. But in any case, it's their car and their money, so dont think that your opinion somehow means something to everyone else, just like I am sure mine doesnt. Hell, how many people go on and on about how DSMs are a total waste?? I think they are, with all the issues they have....but you can bet your ass that there are some really nice one out there that are really fast....

On top of this, you need to consider the driver--more ricer kids are gonna pick a civic or teg than a 7, specifically because of cost issues. How many of them go out and get a civic and slap all that shit on it, like a park bench-sized wing? THAT is a waste of money. Taking an economy car and trying to make it into a sports car with a few minor changes is likewise not very effective.....the chassis, the suspension design, everything about that car was designed for ECONOMY....so you add some horsepower and take out a little weight--if you think that is all thats needed to make a race car, you got troubles, mang....
You're getting angry about that gokart thing again. Use your fucking head, you don't even understand what i mean by "gokart". Even a Special Ed with a pea-brain would understand.

Now about your civic bashing.... You think the civic is an econobox.. well guess what, a FC is getting owned by an econobox.

oh and as far as talentless drag racing:

1979 Mazda RX-7 GS 9.2 17.0
1982 Mazda RX-7 GSL 9.7 N/A
1983 Mazda RX-7 GS 9.5 17.0
1984 Mazda RX-7 GSL-SE 7.8 15.9
1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL 9.9 17.4
1986 Mazda RX-7 GXL 8.5 16.5
1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.6 15.2
1988 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 9.7 17.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.5 16.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.7 15.1
1990 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.6 16.7
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II 6.3 14.9
1991 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 8.8 16.7
1991 Mazda RX-7 Infini IV 7.0 14.9

1993 Acura Integra GS-R 6.5 15.2
1994 Acura Integra GS-R 7.1 15.5
1994 Acura Integra LS 7.6 16.0
1996 Acura Integra GS-R 7.1 15.5
1996 Acura Integra SE 7.9 16.1
1997 Acura Integra Type R 6.5 14.7

Looks like the gs-r and type r take that away from rx7s too =]

Edit: First # = 0-60, Second #= 1/4 mile.

if you ever go road race you learn that


And how often do you go road race?

oh and as far as talentless drag racing:



LOL never tried to get a fast car down the track have you. Hell even a moderatly fast car for that matter.


All of you ricers are fucking internet shit talkers.

Get out on the track All of you. I've drag raced competitivly and participated in numerous track events, With PCNA, NASA, and scca autocross.

LOL never tried to get a fast car down the track have you. Hell even a moderatly fast car for that matter.


All of you ricers are fucking internet shit talkers.

Get out on the track All of you. I've drag raced competitivly and participated in numerous track events, With PCNA, NASA, and scca autocross.

I was 20 years old with a pretty decently modded FD (Parents didn't pay a dime.) You're 40 with an FC. Go ahead and brag about how much money you make, drunk skanks you bag, and how worthless your life is drinking it away; I don't care. You do make more money than me, but obviously you don't use it wisely considering your car of choice is a turd FC. The only car I've ever had that I consider to be remotely "quick" was my FD, which I didn't race... Sorry, nothing near a ricer aka poser.

I certainly won't pretend that FC's are fast without a shitload of money dumped into them. I enjoy throwing the integra thing in your faces because you can't take it that Honda makes something that out preforms your 80s shitboxes, easier to maintain, cheaper to make "fast", and has every advantage in the world over an FC. Do I own one? No. Do I love making FC morons that think their cars are something special cry over it? Indeed.

I've ridden in some pretty fast shit, I can almost guarantee my "clique" has more forced induction shit than is owned on this board, combined. Do I still think drag racing is boring? Yup, which is why I don't go to drag strips anymore. Don't go with the "You gotta drive, not ride" shit either. I've driven more than a handfull of 6-7 sec 1/8th mile STREET cars (all we have is 1/8th mile here.) I'm not an internet shit talker in this sense. I've been there, seen it, got bored to death by it. Drag racing is boring, the end.

I was 20 years old with a pretty decently modded FD (Parents didn't pay a dime.) You're 40 with an FC.40? I dont even have an fc right now.


I've driven more than a handful of 6-7 sec 1/8th mile STREET cars (all we have is 1/8th mile here.) I'm not an internet shit talker in this sense. I've been there, seen it, got bored to death by it. Drag racing is boring, the end.

40? You've driven more than a handful of 9 second carS??!!!!!!! Thats fucking rich. Lets pretend that is true for a monemt. I still doubt you have the ability to get a 6 second 1/8 out of those cars in a boring drag race.

Since I'm known for gloating on the internet and all. If I say it, you can put your money on it. I don't give a drop of piss what you believe; I'm telling you why I feel the way I do, and that I'm not ignorant or under-exposed to drag racing. I've experienced it quite a bit, and it's boring to me.

LOL what 9 second cars have you driven? Your friends are all fucking fast!

LOL what 9 second cars have you driven? Your friends are all fucking fast!

Several mustangs with more in suspension, than the normal s5 tii (gold to you morons) is worth. Power's no good if you can't hook. I've seen stock bottom end fox body mustangs get into the 6's with the right suspension. Of course they head intake, cam, and all other bolt ons. Nitrous, Blowers, built LS1's putting well over 400rwhp out, blah blah blah... You'll never convince I haven't driven and ridden in various 6-7 sec 1/8th mile cars, because well.. I have.

Does that make driving in a straight line entertaining to me? No.
Do gs-r and type-r integras still out perform FC's? Yup.

Where are you going with this again? That I know nothing about drag racing and I'm a ricer, right? Yawn.

heres my turd at the track last fall right after i got it running.

http://www.racingperspectives.com/cgi-bin/store/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Bret_Kepner_Photos/Sport_Compacts/GIR_2006-09-12_Tuesday&image=BKS6-09-12_032.jpg&img=&tt=&tfile=tn_BKS6-09-12_032.jpg

What's it run? You have a tii setup in it right?

Several mustangs with more in suspension, than the normal s5 tii (gold to you morons) is worth. Power's no good if you can't hook. I've seen stock bottom end fox body mustangs get into the 6's with the right suspension. Of course they head intake, cam, and all other bolt ons. Nitrous, Blowers, built LS1's putting well over 400rwhp out, blah blah blah... You'll never convince I haven't driven and ridden in various 6-7 sec 1/8th mile cars, because well.. I have.

Does that make driving in a straight line entertaining to me? No.
Do gs-r and type-r integras still out perform FC's? Yup.

Where are you going with this again? That I know nothing about drag racing and I'm a ricer, right? Yawn.

I know how much it costs. The entire lakewood catolouge installed on my notchback.

stock block 5.0's in the 9's? There is like 2 in the counrty i think. I didn't know they all live in virginia!

What's it run? You have a tii setup in it right?

its SLOOOOOOOOOOOW

And how often do you go road race?

lol ya got me! how often do i drive? not often. that shit is too expensive for me right now. i want to participate... but its just not in my budget. hopefully i can go this summer.

how often do i actually go? pretty often. my buddy is a hpde instructor who happens to own a integra type R, so perhaps i'm a little biased towards itR's. ride alongs + bbq = fun.

lol ya got me! how often do i drive? not often. that shit is too expensive for me right now. i want to participate... but its just not in my budget. hopefully i can go this summer.

how often do i actually go? pretty often. my buddy is a hpde instructor who happens to own a integra type R, so perhaps i'm a little biased towards itR's. ride alongs + bbq = fun.

Ride alongs scare me to much. Instructors are fucking nuts. I was in a car with an instructor in 04 whene he smacked the wall at turn two at gateway.

I know how much it costs. The entire lakewood catolouge installed on my notchback.

stock block 5.0's in the 9's? There is like 2 in the counrty i think. I didn't know they all live in virginia!

One of my closest friends that I've known for about 10 years now had a coupe fox with a stock bottom end, gt40 heads,etc spraying 250, beeeeeeef ass suspension and tire (dot good though.)... little weight reduction... ran a 6.99.

If you want to go fast for cheap, fox body mustang... that's why there's so many of them. I'd never drive one though, ugly pieces of shit. If I were to build a car for drag racing... I'd have to go with a 98+ trans am. Looks good, especially with the ws6/9 hood and capable of some power.

As I said, drag racing bores me... not my thing. If I'm going to watch racing I'd rather watch road racing of "street legal" cars. FC + FB's are money pits... they had their place in the 80s and 90s... but it's over, move on.

following week at the track.

Lupe got kicked off, so I probably would have won my class if I didn't fry a coil- on a fucking 15 inch all season!!!!!!!

a little rotary on rotary violence that is a 434hp t2 in the budweiser lane.

http://www.racingperspectives.com/cgi-bin/store/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Bret_Kepner_Photos/Sport_Compacts/GIR_2006-09-19_Tuesday&image=BKS6-09-19_052.jpg&img=40&tt=&tfile=tn_BKS6-09-19_052.jpg

actually, lupe didn't get kicked off that night, he was only launching that night. Never completed a pass.

ITRs are overpriced because of gay shit like bumpers and badges. If I were to buy an integra or something like that for road racing, I'd probably go with a GS-R and drop $500 in bolt ons + top end motor shit and do it... maybe a lightweight clutch/flywheel.

However, If the chance were given to me "Have a free tii or a free gs-r"... give me the gs-r... not because I'm a ricer, but all around, it's a better car in my opinion.

Ride alongs scare me to much. Instructors are fucking nuts. I was in a car with an instructor in 04 whene he smacked the wall at turn two at gateway.

i vomited when i got out the first time. yes i am a pansy.

i have never been in a crash on track. *knock on wood*

i vomited when i got out the first time. yes i am a pansy.

i have never been in a crash on track. *knock on wood*

You should've rode with me in my younger days... I was plain fucking STUPID. Gladly, I'm past all that and made it out alive (thank God.) I know you guys would miss me... <3

Let's wait for amishboy to post wreck/owned pics.

ITRs are overpriced because of gay shit like bumpers and badges. If I were to buy an integra or something like that for road racing, I'd probably go with a GS-R and drop $500 in bolt ons + top end motor shit and do it... maybe a lightweight clutch/flywheel.

However, If the chance were given to me "Have a free tii or a free gs-r"... give me the gs-r... not because I'm a ricer, but all around, it's a better car in my opinion.
GS-R with K swap would make one hell of a car. Daily drivable, fast, handles well, reliable, and practical. Hell, even a B18 would be nice.

that would be a fairly pointless imo. k20 is what, 200hp? GSR is like 180 already, no?

i'll admit i'm don't know much about honda numbers. and i'm not going to look it up to double check right now.

GS-R with K swap would make one hell of a car. Daily drivable, fast, handles well, reliable, and practical. Hell, even a B18 would be nice.

gs-r's come with b18c1, dohc VTEC... the type-r has the B18C5, again dohc vtec.. has diff cam gears, intake, small things... you can convert the b18c1's in gs-r's to the b18c5 pretty cheap... but there's aftermarket of every part that makes more power. The LS integras come with the b18b, a non-vtec 1.8 litre motor... makes about 140-150 hp stock. People use the b20 vtec blocks from crv's to make pretty good setups. The b16 heads from civic SI's are rumored to be the best flowing heads (except type r, price vs power, SI wins). Any b-series head will bolt onto any b-series block with MINOR modification... the vtech solenoid and all that if the block is non-vtec... vtec heads that rev high + bottom ends not designed for it can lead to trouble. Most people upgrade the bottom ends before doing this... You can build a b-series n/a block putting ~220-~240 to the ground... pretty impressive if you ask me... all cheaper than a $2,000 rebuild of an n/a 13b.

K20's + K24's are TOO expensive to be logical. The motors are like 4-6k IIRC... I'd just build a beast b-series before I'd do that.

that would be a fairly pointless imo. k20 is what, 200hp? GSR is like 180 already, no?

i'll admit i'm don't know much about honda numbers. and i'm not going to look it up to double check right now.

Yes, around 180.


Edit: I'm telling you guys, I used to be the absolute biggest honda hater out there... and I still do hate ricers... but the gs-r platform is good bang for buck... and the honda aftermarket scene + parts availability is phenomenal. They will never be drag-racing cars... they have their limits... but as far as road racing + a fun car that's rock solid reliable and can be daily driven... they're hard to beat.

I had a chance to do a lap at road America with Damian, at speed.

I didn't enter the drawing though, nobody did. I'm not insane. And I don't get into strangers' cars.

back to the internet speculating becnh racing when none of you own shit that is fast or track worthy. Let alone race worthy. I have more respect for the morons who show up at the club race or drag strip in a fucking saturn. At least they are out doing/learning.

back to the internet speculating becnh racing when none of you own shit that is fast or track worthy. Let alone race worthy. I have more respect for the morons who show up at the club race or drag strip in a fucking saturn. At least they are out doing/learning.

Who's speculating?

back to the internet speculating becnh racing when none of you own shit that is fast or track worthy. Let alone race worthy. I have more respect for the morons who show up at the club race or drag strip in a fucking saturn. At least they are out doing/learning.

You'll never hear me say morons aren't shameless.

fast? no. race worthy? probably not. but damnit, my car is track worthy you bastard!

its not fast, but it should pass tech inspection. i'm sure its good enough for hpde 1 and autox.

WTF did we turn this thread into?

we turned it into win. we turned it into pure win.

WTF did we turn this thread into?

Read my honda information and buy you a gs-r instead of an fc... you won't regret it. Besides Honda/Acura has the highest resale value in the united states.. fact.

I found out I'm 40!!!!!!!

request birthday presents from your relatives for each and every year you missed!

I found out I'm pregnant AND that I'm the father. I also found that arguing over stupid things only leads to pain and torment as we try to continue our lives, but that we really just need to listen.

Read my honda information and buy you a gs-r instead of an fc... you won't regret it. Besides Honda/Acura has the highest resale value in the united states.. fact.
Hm... Good point.

I found out I'm 40!!!!!!!

<3

I guess I found that I'm a ricer that internet races??

i found out i'm asian and i have a small wee wee!

^I do too and I'm not even Asian!

Hm... Good point.

You can find them with around ~100-150k for $3500-4k if you look around. Everythign on them is going to last longer than an FC... going to be half as cheap, and 100 times easier to find. Personally, I think they look better too... just no ricey shit k.

It'd make a much better car for you than an FC. You'd have lots more fun modding it, your piggy bank would stay more full, and you could drive it without worrying about it breaking down. You can actually watch your speedometer instead of your heat gauge.

wow. SNTP driving a piston powered car. the irony!

Nah, i can't picture myself driving a civic or integra as a weekend fun car. A daily driver, yes. I'm still stuck with the FC fetish. Sorwee. I just want what i always wanted.

an FC will make you a man!

it will also make you broke and tired. but that's all part of the territory.

go forth with your dreams young one.

if you want to learn driving, something more reliable would be in order.
if you want to learn to wrench on cars, rx7 is a good place to start. its like compelled education.

Time to get a job and save up (again).

What's the "old saying".??

Fast, Cheap, Reliable.
Pick 2 (rx-7 owners pick 1.) ?

that might be before my time.

i think by the time i registered on rx7club you didn't drive one anymore.

Something like that.

that might be before my time.

i think by the time i registered on rx7club you didn't drive one anymore.

When was that?

sometime in 2003 probably. right before i bought the 240. FC was on my list of candidate cars.

if you want to learn driving, something more reliable would be in order.


Explain. the only complaint i would have on any gen stock rx7 for track driving is the brakes will fade and they will boil the fuck out of the brake fluid.

They're all fun, and you'll surely learn something. seat time is seat time.

SNTP.........please........just shut up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHL6PzNtm48

I think all of us, together as one, would rather you fuck off.

just drop it already.

edit: this thread moves too fast

seat time is seat time.

that's exactly my point.

fixing cars and learning how to fix cars takes time and money. more time and money spent on fixing cars equals less time and money for track time and track fees and traveling expenses. for someone who has the money, it's not an issue. for people with budgetary constraints, fixing a car will eat into your track time money.

not that it's a bad thing. i think a good driver should know how to wrench on his car.

SNTP.........please........just shut up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHL6PzNtm48

Hey, this ricer found evidence on the internet. don't argue with him.

SNTP.........please........just shut up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHL6PzNtm48
This thread was "pure win" until you came back in. Fuck off.


edit: this thread moves too fast



that's exactly my point.

fixing cars and learning how to fix cars takes time and money. more time and money spent on fixing cars equals less time and money for track time and track fees and traveling expenses. for someone who has the money, it's not an issue. for people with budgetary constraints, fixing a car will eat into your track time money.

not that it's a bad thing. i think a good driver should know how to wrench on his car.

So its a combination of both?

edit: this thread moves too fast



that's exactly my point.

fixing cars and learning how to fix cars takes time and money. more time and money spent on fixing cars equals less time and money for track time and track fees and traveling expenses. for someone who has the money, it's not an issue. for people with budgetary constraints, fixing a car will eat into your track time money.

not that it's a bad thing. i think a good driver should know how to wrench on his car.

changing pads after an event and changing brake fluid is going to be pretty common across the board. We don't all drive porsches.

and way to delete your dumbass post. i should have quoted the whole thing.

And travel expenses? I don't think 99% of this thread has even been on a track. let alone traveling. I've never been more than a few hours away from home, and that was to drag race.

changing pads after an event and changing brake fluid is going to be pretty common across the board. We don't all drive porsches.

and way to delete your dumbass post. i should have quoted the whole thing.

Ar eyou psoting drubnk too?

SNTP.........please........just shut up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHL6PzNtm48

driver error. probably lifted off. hey you wanted to see a FWD lose the rear. that sure as hell wasn't plow!

So its a combination of both?

haha. look at it this way. if i give you a brand new car, you can basically take all your spare money and devote it towards seat time on a track.

now if you buy a 7, there's a lot of things that need to be done before it will be a reliable daily, let alone a track worthy learning car. stuff will continuously wear out over time, forcing you to spend money repairing it. more money for repair = less money for track.

on the upside, people with new cars don't know how to fix them. and once you've fixed enough it starts acting reliable. that's kind of where my 240 is at this point.

bottomline, if you want a 7, get a 7. no point in getting something you will be miserable with.

changing pads after an event and changing brake fluid is going to be pretty common across the board. We don't all drive porsches.

and way to delete your dumbass post. i should have quoted the whole thing.

And travel expenses? I don't think 99% of this thread has even been on a track. let alone traveling. I've never been more than a few hours away from home, and that was to drag race.

what was my dumbass post?

we live in NJ/NYC area. the closest road courses are states away. VIR, watkins glen, summit, etc. if we go, we go for a few days and we pay for hotel ish. entry alone is $300. gas toll food and hotel and it starts looking like 600-1k. autox and drag is not an issue. autox is everywhere and we have englishtown.

on the upside, people with new cars don't know how to fix them.


Sig worthy?

pm sburkett, t3 runoff champion. 04 rx8. Tell him he doesn't know how to fix the numerous new mazdas he owns.

Sig worthy?

pm sburkett, t3 runoff champion. 04 rx8. Tell him he doesn't know how to fix the numerous new mazdas he owns.

in general! not a blanket rule of course!

cmon you gotta read what i say with a pinch of reasonableness.

naturally there will be people who know how to fix their cars and own new cars. i'm talking about kids just getting started, like SNTP.

haha. look at it this way. if i give you a brand new car, you can basically take all your spare money and devote it towards seat time on a track.

now if you buy a 7, there's a lot of things that need to be done before it will be a reliable daily, let alone a track worthy learning car. stuff will continuously wear out over time, forcing you to spend money repairing it. more money for repair = less money for track.

on the upside, people with new cars don't know how to fix them. and once you've fixed enough it starts acting reliable. that's kind of where my 240 is at this point.

bottomline, if you want a 7, get a 7. no point in getting something you will be miserable with.

Ahh... Yes. Plenty of time. Still need to get a car and my license.

in general! not a blanket rule of course!

cmon you gotta read what i say with a pinch of reasonableness.

naturally there will be people who know how to fix their cars and own new cars. i'm talking about kids just getting started.

ohh. I don't know alot about specualtion and bench racing. Maybe its because I'm form the show-me state.

I'll read everything you say with a grain of salt from now on. :roll:

ohh. I don't know alot about specualtion and bench racing. Maybe its because I'm form the show-me state.

I'll read everything you say with a grain of salt from now on. :roll:

how is that bench racing? i don't claim to have a fast car. i've never claimed to beat anyone in a race. i don't claim to know a ton about racing or building cars. i only know how to fix my own car.

i'm talking about kids buying used beat up cars, trying to fix them and then trying to get out to events. that is all.

its not easy when you go to school full time and money is tight. if i was smart, i'd probably just ditch this hobby until i finished grad school. but i'm too emotionally invested. :)

how is that bench racing?

i'm talking about kids buying used beat up cars, trying to fix them and then trying to get out to events. that is all.

its not easy when you go to school full time and money is tight. if i was smart, i'd probably just ditch this hobby until i finished grad school.

Your hobby of posting on the internet?

I've been sick for 2 days. I'm going to bed. Cliff notes for anyone reading this thread.....

meddle owns fatrx7ricer. Then meddle owns a bunch of internet jockeys. Talking about "no skill" drag racing, national champions who don't know dick about cars, 9 second daily drivers in the high school parking lot, mexicans preference towards flan and other fried custards, etc....

don't go to sleep! i'm bored! :(

Your hobby of posting on the internet?

i guess you're just trying to lure me into an argument or something.

i'm way too tired to get mad right now.

but i will answer you. i won't deny i'm a bench racer. it's kind of dissappointing because i bought the car thinking i wanted to learn how to drive. instead i've learned alot about how to fix the car. life and $$$ keeps getting in the way. had to intern at a courthouse last summer. fully volunteer and unpaid. good experience but i really missed the cash. that's one of the reasons i suggested that a 7 might not be the ideal car for sntp.

my goal is to get my ass out to auto-x this summer. last season i got the 240sx running again, got some new suspension and new tires. right now i'm saving up for a helmet.

in defense of myself, i tried to be active in the local community. i spectated at some events and helped wrench on cars for some of the local autocrossers and some drifters too. i suppose you'll sneer at the drifting... but that's alright. i don't mind. :) i enjoy helping other people out and learning/teaching about cars.

I've watched drifting expositions at drag events and found them entertaining.

The whole culture that goes along with it is absolutly bankrupt internet virgin star wars shit.

the waether alternating from 65* to 35* every day is fucking with me.

i don't really care about the whole scene or whatever.

you're right. it is pretty weird. some kind of weird gay JDM shit mixed with american cowboy rebellious white boy without a counterculture attitude.

damn on that note, i am out. exam in 10 hours. peace guys.

Friendliest smacktalk thread?

Probably... Must be the holiday season.

Group hugs? Nah.. Everyone left. I'll just talk to myself and hug myself.

oooooooh bandwagon FWD lovers............you are all in denial..............i have never been owned by a honda...ever........vtec or not...and that was in my old heavy TII.......My current project is not done but it's the same motor, suspension and everything but just 200 lbs. lighter.......

been on sears point several times...

this is the most boring vs. thread on the planet...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/madrx7racer/forum%20insults/vtec.jpg


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....all win until I came in????????????????? Bwahahahahahahaahahahaa

you want me to fuck off??????



read the thread title. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......

Friendliest smacktalk thread?

Probably... Must be the holiday season.

Group hugs? Nah.. Everyone left. I'll just talk to myself and hug myself.

I'm still here, trying to figure out what exactly went on.

oooooooh bandwagon FWD lovers............you are all in denial..............i have never been owned by a honda...ever........vtec or not...and that was in my old heavy TII.......My current project is not done but it's the same motor, suspension and everything but just 200 lbs. lighter.......

been on sears point several times...

this is the most boring vs. thread on the planet...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/madrx7racer/forum%20insults/vtec.jpg


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....all win until I came in????????????????? Bwahahahahahahaahahahaa

you want me to fuck off??????



read the thread title. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......

Too much tequila you fucking sweat stained dirtball?

remember, mexicans have been hanged too.

http://www.uncg.edu/rom/courses/lachesak/107/execution.jpg

That guy looks tall for a mexican.

wait wait wait........you don't even have your license???? have you ever driven a FWD or RWD CAR????? have you ever pushed one???????

seriously SNTP.....I've told you to shut up 3 times.......

you all are claiming your tyte-Rs are teh shit but 200hp at the front WILL cause torque steer and will understeer, as I said above.....


so how did this go wrong???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCZbC-VnU2o

you obviously saw him countersteer.........and as I KNEW it would happen he couldn't correct it......the FWD killed him.



and you idiots forget that most of the FWD race cars have really stiff suspension to compensate for the shitty FWD and under breaking and cornering the rear inside tire tends to lift........which is why the first vid ( New mini-mini van civic) was so funny........but i think it went over your heads

so have black ppl, and white ppl and asians.......what's your point?

No point in arguing with you. But yes i have driven my cousins (my father's side which is in oakland) K20 swapped 1996 GS-R integra that is completely gutted since he participates in SCCA and has a full free pass to Infineon Raceway (he's a journalist). His mom's 2002 3.2TL. His 2004 330ci coupe DD. My old RWD MPV, and mom's RWD/AWD Infiniti. I have a permit, not a license but i can still legally drive.

haha...........ok SNTP...........you've driven all those cars...........you obviously know what you're talking about. Imagine how knowledgeable you're going to once you actually get over years of experince.....

ugh......this bores me.....come on.......do something stupid.......someone......anyone......

You did.

haha..........coming from you...hahah doesn't really mean much.

No point in arguing with you. But yes i have driven my cousins (my father's side which is in oakland) K20 swapped 1996 GS-R integra that is completely gutted since he participates in SCCA and has a full free pass to Infineon Raceway (he's a journalist). His mom's 2002 3.2TL. His 2004 330ci coupe DD. My old RWD MPV, and mom's RWD/AWD Infiniti. I have a permit, not a license but i can still legally drive.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/skydivr7673/rainman1.jpg

Friendliest smacktalk thread?

Probably... Must be the holiday season.

Group hugs? Nah.. Everyone left. I'll just talk to myself and hug myself.

my fault! i totally forgot this was the smacktalk section

I think all of us, together as one, would rather you fuck off.
+1

<3

edit: nevermind.

ok....bye.

Come back when you have the time, fatrx7. Bye!

both of you shut the fuck up already...you sound like a couple of little boys fighting over who gets to be next to Michael Jackson in bed tonight at the Neverland Ranch...

Jeez, you cant even fucking argue like men....this thread fails almost as much as you two so.

Nuh-uh!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/skydivr7673/rainman1.jpg
This had me laughing for a full ten minutes. :roll:

woo its wonner!

both of you shut the fuck up already...you sound like a couple of little boys fighting over who gets to be next to Michael Jackson in bed tonight at the Neverland Ranch...

Jeez, you cant even fucking argue like men....this thread fails almost as much as you two so.
Hahahaha. You shouldn't be talking. Just look at the fights you start with yzf.

Meddle, dude, you are basically saying madrx's car really looks and performs like this pic. I mean come on:
http://i.thefairest.info/funniest_thumbs/Wq4P7h.jpeg

Hahahaha. You shouldn't be talking. Just look at the fights you start with yzf.

hey dipshit--the fights with me and yzf are at least fought like men....any minute now, I am certain youre gonna run and tell your mommy what he said to you over teh intarweb....

Now, if you're finished trying to find some reason to think you're man enough, it's past your bedtime now....

hey dipshit--the fights with me and yzf are at least fought like men....any minute now, I am certain youre gonna run and tell your mommy what he said to you over teh intarweb....

Now, if you're finished trying to find some reason to think you're man enough, it's past your bedtime now....
Ah... Fighting like a man on "teh intarweb". Boy, you're so tough . You spit the same bullshit over and over again, it's getting old. Come up with something new. Hahahaha, you're so butthurt, you have to TRY to insult people.


Hmmm. Lets see if theres a difference:
http://www.theforumlounge.com/thread8027-p6-wow-the-klub-shit-the-bed-huh.html

Nope, still the same bullshit.


Let's check here:
http://www.theforumlounge.com/thread8206-p6-the-feminization-of-america.html

Same thing again.

Ah... Fighting like a man on "teh intarweb". Boy, you're so tough . You spit the same bullshit over and over again, it's getting old. Come up with something new. Hahahaha, you're so butthurt, you have to TRY to insult people.


Hmmm. Lets see if theres a difference:
http://www.theforumlounge.com/thread8027-p6-wow-the-klub-shit-the-bed-huh.html

Nope, still the same bullshit.


Let's check here:
http://www.theforumlounge.com/thread8206-p6-the-feminization-of-america.html

Same thing again.

and you sure are the expert on being butthurt, arent ya....

good luck with that one, junior

haha...........ok SNTP...........you've driven all those cars...........you obviously know what you're talking about. Imagine how knowledgeable you're going to once you actually get over years of experince.....

ugh......this bores me.....come on.......do something stupid.......someone......anyone......

What the fuck have you driven spick? beater ass rx7's? You've never been on a track in your life. You have no relevance to the rx7 community whatsoever. Why do you even post? What have you contributed technically to that site? You are qualified to comment on the asthetics of body kits and wheels. Thats it. You are no different than any of the bullshitters that make that site a joke.

what DO you do meddle?

what DO you do meddle?

Partner in recruitment firm catering to tier one automotive and heavy manufacturing.

Partner in recruitment firm catering to tier one automotive and heavy manufacturing.

You need to call me again sometime, mofo. Gotta catch up on how your business is going, and if you've managed to hire any quality black people as of late. lol

This turned into a great thread.