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I'm sure he is at least attending the funeral

You should tolerate people for what they are, not who they are.

I tolerate the KKK, but not David Duke.

I tolerate Christians, but not Jerry Falwell.

Hate the sinner, not the sin, as you might put it.

I believe he was a true Christian

I'm not really sure who that's helping, Mark. Certainly not the Christians. :bigthumb:

You know what really makes me question things? Take a look at Jerry Falwell's web site main page. http://www.falwell.com/
Not once does the name Jesus comes up. Christ does once in a small link.

Same thing with Jimmy Swaggart http://www.jsm.org/. No Christ, No Jesus. Its all about them. First link on the page is to the online store.

Go out and take a look at other individuals. Se what they are trying to sell you.

I'm trying not to attack them, but where is the spreading of the faith?

the vast majority of T.V. "evangelists" are in it for the money

o rly?

no wai!

I live near there... you wouldn't believe how rich this dude was. He basically controlled the city of Lynchburg. A hooters tried to come there and he "made things happen" to block them... hahaha. The entire city is pretty uptight about anything that isn't traditional "southern-christian" ways.

I live near there... you wouldn't believe how rich this dude was. He basically controlled the city of Lynchburg. A hooters tried to come there and he "made things happen" to block them... hahaha. The entire city is pretty uptight about anything that isn't traditional "southern-christian" ways.

Now that is a shame. Where in the Bible does it say that women can't wear tight orange shorts?

Trashy whores anyway... but I thought it was funny that there was a fit thrown over that. Are you going to ban swimming pools due to bikinis?

Never actually gone to one, but I was friends with the former Miss Hooters of Canada lol.

Never actually gone to one, but I was friends with the former Miss Hooters of Canada lol.

lol sweet! So was it hard to keep eye contact? Would be for me.

Indeed. Doubt she blamed me though, she always knew that she was hot shit.

of course the fact Jerry was grossly overweigh was a horrible testimony, how are people supposed to respect you when you're than undisciplined?


I swear YZF I should call you a hypocrite on so many levels for that statement....

I swear YZF I should call you a hypocrite on so many levels for that statement....
Everyone is, so why bring it up?

exactly

at least I'm not a apostate/heretic who lives in adultery and gloats about it :rolleyes:

Blah blah blah....you are a broken record and you are talking out of your ass again.

No, you are a self-serving ass-wipe who thinks his shit doesn't stink....
( Watch the idiot quote that and change the words ...again)

You know, I thought I was being nice by not actually explaining to you where your behavior is wrong with that statement...maybe I wished a little too much on hoping you could actually reflect on it. Obviously, again you proved my repeated point that you cannot walk His path.

But instead you are going for the personal attacks.....you are a waste of space. STFU, and you whine about being treated unfairly here all the time....well reflect on your actions and you'll see why.

So let's take a page out of YZF's bible then....

'Love your neighbor as yourself...unless they are fat'

put you right back in your place

Delusional...again.


I think you're a whiny little kid who needs to be smacked around....I think you profess Christianity when it suits you, when it makes you feel good, but you're a phony

Again with your superiority complex...must be the little man chip on his shoulder attitude, or the abused kid mentality that most children of cops have.

Of course what you don't state is who is going to 'smack me around'. Learned your lesson about making threats on the internet again Mark? :blah:

But what is really enlightening is this shows your true viewpoint of God and faith as well... Its so, so sad.


BTW, stop stealing your companies bandwidth.

mis-quote #573

You are probably so psycho that this count is probably correct....
What, do you sit around recording everything, making a list, wearing lipstick with a rifle in you lap....just waiting for the day that you can have your 'revenge'.




in case you didn't notice, I DEFENDED Jerry, mr. flake...I simply said his weight problem was a terrible testimony, and it was

Hmm... Maybe he had a medical condition, lets see, hypothyroid perhaps?
Or maybe he lived in the Word so much, studying it for the benefit of others that he actually put the Word of God above his own health? Defend him in the right way....jeez don't do the guy any favors!

Fact is, your comment is heartless and thoughtless, and no matter how much you try to turn this on me I'll always shove your nose in your shitty comment.

unfortunately, yes

I am self deceived...on the road to destruction

Two can play that game..... :owned:

Don't bother with this guy yzf. He's just petty. Catch him in a contradiction and he disappears for a while until it's forgotten.

I'd like to see a link to substantiate this, fact is he had a long term weight problem

Your an idiot and probably don't even know what hypothyroidism is.
And I said 'Maybe' ...point was is that there could have been a medical condition that he had. Your reading comprehension sucks.



this is absurd....Jerry Falwell was involved in ministry most of his life
contradicts your post above


Not a contradiction, in what way? I was stating an observation, that both main web pages were more about them and not about Him. Jeez, do I have to really spell it out for you stupid?



speak for yourself, heretic....your attack was far more judgmental than mine was, I simply stated his weight problem was a poor testimony

Fact is that you took this as a judgment, for some reason you think everything is an attack...piss poor attitude on your part. And still I bring up your attitude towards others...quit being so self serving.

Don't bother with this guy yzf. He's just petty. Catch him in a contradiction and he disappears for a while until it's forgotten.

Contradiction? Don't you see Marks attitude and Jesus's message as a contradiction. And he calls himself a Christian.

You are Marks little bitch of a lapdog....and for you a big
STFU

Contradiction? Don't you see Marks attitude and Jesus's message as a contradiction. And he calls himself a Christian.

You are Marks little bitch of a lapdog....and for you a big
STFU

You have some growing up to do pal. Look at Sky, yzf has said some really terrible things to him over the past and yet he's agreed to forgive and forget. What has he done to you, called you a hack? Boo-fucking-hoo. For what it's worth, I think that he's right. You cry like a little fucking girl everytime he tells you that you don't believe in Genesis but when asked if you believe if man evolved from apes the resident loud-mouth becomes as quiet as a corpse.

Everytime he does something wrong you're right there to call him a hypocrite and proclaim that he doesn't follow the path but the minute someone does the same to you it's all "you don't know me, get out of my life, blah, blah blah."

I'm the lapdog? Yeah, sure I am. That's why I follow yzf with the same old tired bullshit like you do. Get a life.

lol

when superhack gets really annoyed he puts the obligatory "stfu" in caps/bold



Annoyed...actually I laughed at the idiocy and the extreme mental retardation the two of you share.....

You have some growing up to do pal. Look at Sky, yzf has said some really terrible things to him over the past and yet he's agreed to forgive and forget. What has he done to you, called you a hack? Boo-fucking-hoo. For what it's worth, I think that he's right. You cry like a little fucking girl everytime he tells you that you don't believe in Genesis but when asked if you believe if man evolved from apes the resident loud-mouth becomes as quiet as a corpse.

Everytime he does something wrong you're right there to call him a hypocrite and proclaim that he doesn't follow the path but the minute someone does the same to you it's all "you don't know me, get out of my life, blah, blah blah."

I'm the lapdog? Yeah, sure I am. That's why I follow yzf with the same old tired bullshit like you do. Get a life.

I've stated many times what I believe in, you just to stupid to remember it.

Lets face it, my first statement was just to point out the hypocrisy of his statement....I gave him a chance to make good with it, instead he immediately attacked me personally...

And look at my first statement, I specifically stated I was not attacking their persons, just noting something a little off with their home pages.

Man you all FAIL with this. I didn't start with any personal attacks whatsoever, and even made an attempt stating that I wasn't....yet you guys start in on me. You and Mark stink of shit with your actions.

lol

Yupp, I'm the guy who goes around searching the net to find what other forums yzf is a part of just to try and embarrass him. I'm the one who carries on about how is girlfriend is probably an STD carrying slut. Whew! Do my actions stink.

You've stated your beliefs have you? Could you be any more vauge about your whole "God is methodical" routine? Tell me, do you believe in Genesis or do you believe that man evolved from apes. Answer this question either one way or the other (you can't play both sides here) and I will openly apologize to you about this whole thing.

lol

Yupp, I'm the guy who goes around searching the net to find what other forums yzf is a part of just to try and embarrass him. I'm the one who carries on about how is girlfriend is probably an STD carrying slut. Whew! Do my actions stink.


Mark embarrasses himself...no need for me to do that for him. And a 5 minute Google search on one of Marks aliases is hardly any effort....and in fact of what I remember it was in retaliation to him calling me a piece of dog shit (which I admit I did deserve)

As for you question, buck up and do a search on your own if you really want to know my viewpoint. The problem with explaining things to a retard is that they are always retarded. Worthless on my part to continue to explain things to you if you can't even remember it.

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Again, like a little Mark clone, you want to attack me personally instead of looking at your actions. Again I rub your nose in your guys shit. :owned:

I expected nothing less from you. This could have ended very easily with you answering the question and me apologizing to you. Instead you'd perfer to call me a fuck'n retard. I'm not looking through 739 posts of dribble to find what I know isn't there.

he always dances around that question with "I interpret Genesis 1-11 differently than you do", but the fact is he simply rejects it


I expected nothing less from you. This could have ended very easily with you answering the question and me apologizing to you. Instead you'd perfer to call me a fuck'n retard. I'm not looking through 739 posts of dribble to find what I know isn't there.


Notice how you two still won't own own up to your actions....but instead want to burn me at the stake for my beliefs....witch hunting again?

You two are pathetic....anyone that follows the two of you are fools....both of your actions stink of shit and are self serving. Using the bible to kick me down...Is that what Jesus was about? You two so self serving.

Notice how you two still won't own own up to your actions....but instead want to burn me at the stake for my beliefs....witch hunting again?

How about you set you're hyper-sensitivitiy aside for one moment and try to explain what the hell you are talking about. What witch hunt? I'm simply asking you a question which you, as usual, care not to answer. Now don't get me wrong here, it's your prerogative not to do so, just stop crying a river every time someone says that you don't believe in Genesis.

You two are pathetic....

I'm pathetic? Why? Because I don't agree with you or choose to follow suit with your childish attacks against yzf? Dude, you're so immature, you'd feel out of place at an elementary school playground. Calling someone a fucking retard because they ask you a question? Grow up already.

anyone that follows the two of you are fools....

Anyone who follows me must be a fool? Do you even know what it is that I believe? Of course not but you're playing with half a deck so what's the difference?

Heh, I bet the droves that follow you must love tap dancing becasue that's all you seem to be able to muster anytime someone asks you a question about what you believe.

both of your actions stink of shit and are self serving.

I can understand why you think that my actions stink of shit, you're very immature afterall and that's the closest thing to a rebuttal that you can conjure, but saying that I'm being self serving? What are you talking about? Oh wait, right, I forgot, no questions with you. I retract that, just put those dance shoes anyway for now.

Using the bible to kick me down...Is that what Jesus was about? You two so self serving.

I'm not trying to kick you down with the Bible, I'm just curious as to where you stand on it. Unfortunately you don't even know the answer to that yourself.

What witch hunt? I'm simply asking you a question which you, as usual, care not to answer. Now don't get me wrong here, it's your prerogative not to do so, just stop crying a river every time someone says that you don't believe in Genesis.


So I call Mark's statement hypocritical, and because of it you want to know if I believe man evolved from apes or the narrative nature of Genesis.....Thats whats fucking retarded.

All you are trying to do is get any information about my standpoint and then use it in any manner.

Well heres some info for you...I believe that Jesus was the Christ and that he was resurrected after he was crucified on the cross.

How about that for you? You want to attack that? I just publicly admitted my belief in Christ.

I did not go out and attack Mark, I just said that his statement was hypocritical.....isn't the first time Mark has said something like this. Next he goes out and full blown attacks me personally and you back him up....

So I am jumping on both of you and your pathetic little circle jerk party that you guys are playing.....

Unfortunately you don't even know the answer to that yourself.

Yes I do know what I believe in and again I have stated it several times...why rehash it? You just need anything to fuel your condemnation....piss off with that little game.

So I call Mark's statement hypocritical, and because of it you want to know if I believe man evolved from apes or the narrative nature of Genesis.....Thats whats fucking retarded.

You might recall that my first post spoke of you shying away from your own contradictions.

Catch him in a contradiction and he disappears for a while until it's forgotten.

Saying that you believe in Genesis while also believing that man evolved from apes is a contradiction which ties into the whole hypocrisy theme that you started.

All you are trying to do is get any information about my standpoint and then use it in any manner.

To do what? Use it against you vindictively? I'm going to level with you here, I'm not looking to embarrass you or catch you in any sort of trap. Instead, I've got you pegged as being a certain type of person and I'm curious to see if I'm right or not. Interestingly, every time you dodge the question I feel more validated in my assumption.

Well heres some info for you...I believe that Jesus was the Christ and that he was resurrected after he was crucified on the cross.

You may have noticed by now that not once have claimed that you do not, nor have I criticized you for not being a Christian.

How about that for you? You want to attack that? I just publicly admitted my belief in Christ.

Again, I am not attacking you. You are a very sensitive person who cries bloody murder at the drop of a hat.

I did not go out and attack Mark, I just said that his statement was hypocritical.....isn't the first time Mark has said something like this. Next he goes out and full blown attacks me personally and you back him up....

We can play semantics here but essentially you called him a hypocrite. Does that warrant his reply of calling you a "apostate/heretic who lives in adultery and gloats about it"? Absolutely not and I am in no way defending his choice of words there.

So I am jumping on both of you and your pathetic little circle jerk party that you guys are playing.....

Luckily you can't jump very high with those rudimentary quips of yours.

Yes I do know what I believe in and again I have stated it several times...why rehash it?

Because we both know that you have never stated it (at least not without being as vauge as possible) because by doing so you would eliminate your ability to talk out of both sides of your mouth.

You just need anything to fuel your condemnation....piss off with that little game.

Once again, I'm not looking to condemn you. This isn't the witch hunt that you think it is.

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/televangelists/jerry-falwell/

I seriously get everywhere. Sometimes I see something other people might find interesting and post it.

I guess I should post the disclaimer that just cuz I post something doesn't mean I agree with it, disagree with it, or anything. Just means I think someone else might find it interesting.

Think thats my only source, or even _A_ source? Research is basically all I ever do anymore.

A great deal of human information's reliability only slides along a probability scale anyway, approaching, but never touching "True."

This is especially true of a political figure.

Even when I find reliable information, it's never Gospel, except for the Gospel itself, of course.

I didn't post it because it was necessarily true, or even a good news source, I just posted it because I thought someone would find it interesting. If I want to say something is a good news source, I'll say that after I post the link :p

Rephrase\clarify, please.

Wow.
Your truth is the only truth, still, it seems. They don't agree with you, so they're radicals.
But it's okay, your Religion's leaders have always carried the same viewpoint.
We're right, and anyone who disagrees is a radical.
Either brand them criminals / insane, destroy them, or shun them from society.

Wow.
Your truth is the only truth, still, it seems. They don't agree with you, so they're radicals.
But it's okay, your Religion's leaders have always carried the same viewpoint.
We're right, and anyone who disagrees is a radical.
Either brand them criminals / insane, destroy them, or shun them from society.

Uh, what?

Who's his "Religion's leaders"?

Just about all Christian figure heads throughout history, and also anyone who represents Christianity.
I'm under the assumption that the "Christian thing" is still that every man is a temple, and there is no REAL Christian leader?
So we must lead by example?

Just about all Christian figure heads throughout history, and also anyone who represents Christianity.
I'm under the assumption that the "Christian thing" is still that every man is a temple, and there is no REAL Christian leader?
So we must lead by example?

I'm sorry, you must be thinking of Catholics. They're not exactly "by the book" if you catch my drift.

In Christianity, as opposed to Catholics, we follow the teachings of The Annointed One of God, the Messiah.

True Christian "Leaders" are servants, as dictated by Christ, and don't put forward the kind of behavior or ideas you've mentioned.

I used to think the way you did on that matter, not to long ago.

Then I sat down and read God's Word, and I saw the truth that the "Christian Leaders" were trying to hide . . .

I have read the book, thoroughly, as a Lutheran, a Catholic, and as an educational analysis.
I purposely avoided using the term leader in my second reply, instead going with the safer terms I did.

Christians (not Catholic Christians) throughout history have made it their purpose to snuff out anything non Christian.
As a large example I give you the 'Witch Hunt' of the 'Colonial Era' (and a bit before that).
Also, the oppression of the Native Tribes of North America shines out (I realize that it was Catholicism that destroyed the South American tribes, but they were wacko stargazers anyway).

Ahem. It appears only YOU know what you've been told.

Yes, Catholic Christians hunted down OTHER Christians. That's just the way Christianity rolls. You both believe in Christ, why can't that be enough?

Yes, they hunted down thousands of people because they didn't believe in the New Testament. That is the problem that I am referring to!
I also notice that you comfortably dodged my mentioning of the Native American tribes?

I have something to mention here.
All of the 'Pagan' cultures have VERY similar beliefs. They have been around for THOUSANDS of years.
Why are their beliefs so similar to each others, yet you Christians are apart from the flock?
Christianity is a very new religion, and you guys thing you own the world.
You don't. For a thousand years, you tried your hardest to make it so you do, but it just kept slipping from your grasp.

by God

you only know what you have been told by other whimsical men



very few of those....exceedingly few



they also believe damning false doctrines, such as praying to Mary



again, does it line up with scripture? no....case closed!



blah blah I've heard this hundreds of times

false religions come and go
Aye. . . . andChristianity hangs by a thread as do the rest of them.

The way you talk makes me really wonder if you read the thing all that thoroughly.

You both believe in Christ, why can't that be enough?

Even the demons believe. Whats that do for us?

I read it. It's a large collection of fairy tales and parables.
That is all. It's a good read on morality, but does little for actual explanations. I don't care about a geneology, all the religions and my family tree have similar.
I once knew a guy that 'traced his geneology back to the archangle Micheal.' He had the paper to 'prove' it.
Nutcase, but what that shows is that anyone can make some whacky geneology and call it 'proof.'

Have each of you looked at the Bible in a literary view? Or and 'atheistic' view? Until you look at a cube from all angles, you can't possibly claim to know what all angles look like.

I just keep going back to a few stories to show that even the Bible is not infallible. In the Noah tale, he released 3 doves, after a Raven (Ahem, a RAVEN? When was this book written again? It certainly wasn't 4000 years BC. Ravens did not exist in the area in question.)
Yet, in the same tale, it is stated that he was to collect two of every backboned, land dwelling animal.
The storm supposedly lasted 40 days.
In captivity, doves are shown to be reluctant to procreate for up to two weeks, and no less than one.

So, that leaves 24 days for a dove to grow from a fertilized egg to maturity. Hmmm.

What is the chemical makeup of common garden soil / dirt?

I am not an unbiased person. You are more than welcome to point out flaws in my religion (Lakota Sioux).
I would love to psycho analyze them with you, since you apparently have open minds and can do such with any religion.

Interesting take!

Have each of you looked at the Bible in a literary view? Or and 'atheistic' view? Until you look at a cube from all angles, you can't possibly claim to know what all angles look like.

The next question is, how could anyone who has read it once not look at it a different way each time? If you're reading it for the literary value, you're missing out on a lot from most translations, for example, did you know that Job is a poem? Not a lot of people know that. They tried to maintain the nature of the Psalms in the KJV, not so much the others.

I just keep going back to a few stories to show that even the Bible is not infallible. In the Noah tale, he released 3 doves, after a Raven

Nah, it was one dove three times.

ולא מצאה היונה מנוח לכף רגלה ותשׁב אליו אל התבה כי מים

Also:

You shall take to yourself from every clean animal by sevens, male and female, and from the animal that is not clean by two, male and female.

מכל הבהמה הטהורה תקח לך שׁבעה שׁבעה אישׁ ואשׁתו ומן הבהמה אשׁר

So either 7 x 2 (male+female) or 2 x 2(male+female) . . . so 14 or 4. Clean = he had 14 doves.

(Ahem, a RAVEN? When was this book written again? It certainly wasn't 4000 years BC. Ravens did not exist in the area in question.)

Ravens did not exist in the area in question? Earth? I don't really get what you're trying to say, you're going to have to rephrase it for me.

What is the chemical makeup of common garden soil / dirt?

Depends where you are. Why?


I am not an unbiased person.

Then again, who is? Not a lot of people can realize their own biases, that's rather commendable that you noticed that.


You are more than welcome to point out flaws in my religion (Lakota Sioux).

Sure, make a thread :)

I would love to psycho analyze them with you, since you apparently have open minds and can do such with any religion.

I can't tell if that is meant sarcastically or not. :p