jews "god killed all the unchosen in the past."

christians "god will kill all the unchosen in the future."

moslems "let's kill all the unchosen RIGHT NOW !!!! "


amusingly, they each claim that the others worship a different god.:bigthumb:

jews "god killed all the unchosen in the past."

christians "god will kill all the unchosen in the future."

moslems "let's kill all the unchosen RIGHT NOW !!!! "


amusingly, they each claim that the others worship a different god.:bigthumb:

Atheists "Lets kill them all and let god sort them out! YeeeeeAAAAHAAAA!

to maintain the symmetry it might be

atheists "kill them all, let god choose who he will."

the notion that some people are chosen by god while others are utterly rejected by god being the common concept.

note that 'kill them all..." is a

to maintain the symmetry it might be

atheists "kill them all, let god choose who he will."

the notion that some people are chosen and loved by god while others are utterly rejected and cursed by god being the common concept.

note that 'kill them all..." is a christian quote from the crusades against the moslems, I think.

oops, editing in action, eh ? :D

again, Christians know God doesn't need our help, apparently "Allah" does

and the Muslim false god provides no escape for wrath, did not become flesh, is not a Savior

Isaiah 45, 2500 years later, and light years ahead of the worthless "Koran"


Yet the so called light years of the Bible teachings stopped as soon as man realizes he can force people into his thinking by fear. Fear of something you'll never see except your mind engaged into another Man's imagination.

Man’s fingerprint of thinking is the Bible, for the bible never addresses all humans’ traits and their abilities. Therefore, what is written is to only sell you an all knowing God but is really a book of limited knowledge of Man.

Jesus = car salesman

lol cute.

You could benefit by being open to learning new lessons even if they contradict the lessons you learned yesterday.

I'll listen to someone I respect with an intelligent, well thought-out statement of opinion

that lets out 99.9% of your posts
which is none of yours. :peace:

No, your worthless opinion :peace:
See people? debates here are like this. Same shit over and over and i am always right.

you should be flattered, Mark...they say that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery....

the notion that some people are chosen by god while others are utterly rejected by god being the common concept.



If you had two brain cells unaffected by pot to rub together, you would immediately recognize that God exists outside of time and can see the ultimate conclusion to all human effort.

And just how couldn't He see that some were going to make it and most weren't?

jews "god killed all the unchosen in the past."

christians "god will kill all the unchosen in the future."

moslems "let's kill all the unchosen RIGHT NOW !!!! "


amusingly, they each claim that the others worship a different god.:bigthumb:


Life is pretty simple from the vantage point of the spiritually dead. Take another look....... and I don't mean at the Catholic Inquisition. How do those who fear the Lord affect their surroundings? If charity, community service, sincerity, and genuine concern for their fellow humans doesn't ring a bell, perhaps the kamakazie mentality of Jihadists will?

If you had two brain cells unaffected by pot to rub together, you would immediately recognize that God exists outside of time and can see the ultimate conclusion to all human effort.

And just how couldn't He see that some were going to make it and most weren't?

the point is that the so called 'different' gods all share the SAME super time power, and USE that power in the same exact way.

unless you want to say that this god CANNOT influence ALL people so as to guide their efforts in a direction that would enable ALL humanity to be "forgiven" you MUST concede that god WANTS to curse the majority of people to hell because he hates us.

the hate filled return of jesus when he finally kills the remnant of humanity is proof.

If you had two brain cells unaffected by pot to rub together, you would immediately recognize that God exists outside of time and can see the ultimate conclusion to all human effort.



You know I made the same point months back and was ridiculed by YZF and the lot of them for saying that.

Funny, but it seemed to me that was the beginning of the rift between skidMark and myself.....

the point is that the so called 'different' gods all share the SAME super time power, and USE that power in the same exact way.

unless you want to say that this god CANNOT influence ALL people so as to guide their efforts in a direction that would enable ALL humanity to be "forgiven" you MUST concede that god WANTS to curse the majority of people to hell because he hates us.

the hate filled return of jesus when he finally kills the remnant of humanity is proof.

You know, I have a lot of respect for you because you seem pretty intelligent. It's obvious to me that you put some thought into your beliefs, but I can't seem to understand why you ASSUME that God is anything other than the One, Holy, origin to everything that is good. God is love. Love does not mean kindness in the short run, it means discipline. How long would your kids behave if you just doted out positive reinforcement without a little FEAR mixed in? I don't mean spanking, beating, or any violence in any shape or form. I mean AUTHORITY.

You know I made the same point months back and was ridiculed by YZF and the lot of them for saying that.

Funny, but it seemed to me that was the beginning of the rift between skidMark and myself.....

You're a funny man, and you definitely have your place in this forum. But you need to step up and post your pic even if you're not in Aikido dress or executing a glamorous action move in a tournament. Humans are frail, fragile beings. Humility is the One Holy gift that Jesus taught us to accept. Is it in you?

You're a funny man, and you definitely have your place in this forum. But you need to step up and post your pic even if you're not in Aikido dress or executing a glamorous action move in a tournament. Humans are frail, fragile beings. Humility is the One Holy gift that Jesus taught us to accept. Is it in you?

wow...if only that message could be sent to the "hero" under your avatar.....

You know, I have a lot of respect for you because you seem pretty intelligent. It's obvious to me that you put some thought into your beliefs, but I can't seem to understand why you ASSUME that God is anything other than the One, Holy, origin to everything that is good. God is love. Love does not mean kindness in the short run, it means discipline. How long would your kids behave if you just doted out positive reinforcement without a little FEAR mixed in? I don't mean spanking, beating, or any violence in any shape or form. I mean AUTHORITY.

this is a good point.

You're a funny man, and you definitely have your place in this forum. But you need to step up and post your pic even if you're not in Aikido dress or executing a glamorous action move in a tournament. Humans are frail, fragile beings. Humility is the One Holy gift that Jesus taught us to accept. Is it in you?

Or is it vanity if I post a pic?

How will I be 'humbled' if I post a picture of myself...with ridicule?
I've got enough in my life to be humble about.

See, thats the flaw in your mindset, and you use Christ to back this up???

I need to put you on ignore



:eek: :bowdown: :lmfao: :rolleyes: :roll: :bsman: :rofl: :worship: :jerkit:

wow...if only that message could be sent to the "hero" under your avatar.....

Lol, that avatar title is a joke...... One of Yzf's aliases on the other forum was "Yzf rules!" and it was funny as shit for the two days when he was stirring up shit.

Guys, I just like to stir the pot once in a while. I've been getting some serious action at work and need to spout off at the end of the day. Don't confuse my desire to provoke reaction with any blatant bias toward the Holy reviler.

Or is it vanity if I post a pic?

How will I be 'humbled' if I post a picture of myself...with ridicule?
I've got enough in my life to be humble about.

See, thats the flaw in your mindset, and you use Christ to back this up???

The fact that it's do difficult to you to make yourself a potential target for some temporary smack talk reveals a hidden insecurity. Strength is not power, it is control.

whatever...I rightly challenged your false beliefs about time as measured on earth, relative to God's providence

Again you prove my point, I put up a statement, and immediately you HAVE to post against it. So atypical of you and your unchristian like hate for me.

actually, I put the revilers in their place

and have for 6 years now

You're cool in my book, and I certainly hope that you're not completely serious when you threaten to kill people. :eek: Hopefully as you age, you will escape from that death grip of anger that makes it so obvious who you are, even when your title is Kx$49.95 or Absolute_Power.

Originally Posted by honegod
the hate filled return of jesus when he finally kills the remnant of humanity is proof.

this is "intelligent"?

hardly....it's straight out of hell

yet to transform it from a hellish distortion of gods word into a statement of holy Truth all I have to do is change one word.

the love filled return of jesus when he finally kills the remnant of humanity is proof.

loving slaughter, how christian.

:bowdown: :screwyou:

You know, I have a lot of respect for you because you seem pretty intelligent. It's obvious to me that you put some thought into your beliefs, but I can't seem to understand why you ASSUME that God is anything other than the One, Holy, origin to everything that is good. God is love. Love does not mean kindness in the short run, it means discipline. How long would your kids behave if you just doted out positive reinforcement without a little FEAR mixed in? I don't mean spanking, beating, or any violence in any shape or form. I mean AUTHORITY.


the problem is that god does NOT WANT to get humanity to behave, he WANTS us to be horrible SO HE CAN PUNISH US.

not discipline, punishment, eternal punishment with NO chance of EVER getting better.

the same thing as KILLING your child instead of spanking or ANY form of discipline or authority.

gods version of authority is to make it his RIGHT to kill his children for making a mess like their NANNY, {SATAN} HIRED TO TEACH THEM by god, taught them to do.

5) No more quoting other members, then changing what they said to reflect either A) what you think they mean, B) to "clarify", C) to change their post more in line with your thinking, or D) to be a smartass. You can respond to what they posted with YOUR opinion, but leave the original posters intent alone.

funny, righteous judgement means the SAME THING as holy slaughter, it just looks more noble, less brutal, even though the mountains of rotting corpses each produces are exactly the same.

but then that is christianity all over, wipe the blood from their lips before going out in public so they can deny the human sacrifice that filled their cup.

he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice.

considering that he CREATED them with a depraved mind, what "he gave them over to a depraved mind" must mean is that he blocked anything from them that might help heal the damaged mind that they were born with, the saving word of jesus for example.

because god WANTED them to have "a depraved mind" to be "full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice."

to be just like him, only without the superpowers to carry out the murder in a truely godly manner.

Originally Posted by honegod
considering that he CREATED them with a depraved mind


not true at all

the passage repeatedly includes the phrase "God gave them over", because they "refused to love the truth and so be saved"

so THOSE people were created with a perfect sinless mind that could rightiously judge between truth and lie, good and evil ?

that doesn't sound right.
but ok, they did judge the truth of gods nature, just like the angels did, and found it unworthy of love, just like half the angels did.

so what does "gave them over" mean ?

I see it meaning god gave up on trying to convince them to love his evil and gave them to satan who provided them the lie that god was lovable, for which belief god punished them.

it had to be punishment for that belief that they weren't saved from because otherwise they were slated for punishment unless they overcome the depraved mind that they were created with and loved gods evil.

parroted lies, I've never "threatened to kill" anyone

complete nonsense

wow....once more, we are back to the "I never threatened anyone" crap. Here--let me refresh your memory, using only your own words:

http://www.theforumlounge.com/showpost.php?p=128282&postcount=86

MARK SAYS:

what member of this forum have I threatened, aside from jon?

answer: no one

So, you admitted five months ago that you did threaten someone, and yet today, you are right back to "I never threatened anyone". Flip....flop....flip....flop....

http://www.theforumlounge.com/showpost.php?p=84562&postcount=147

(right after I had just stated that you werent worth the effort of violence, so clearly I made no threat to you....)

set one foot on my property and you will be summarily executed

http://www.theforumlounge.com/showpost.php?p=75520&postcount=340

I will blow your brains right out of the back of your head and splatter them all over the road, you lunatic piece of shit

How many more "non-existent threats" do you need, Mark, before you will actually learn that lying gets you nowhere?? How many more? As for all this "set one foot on my property" nonsense, there has never been a time when I told you I was going to your house. Not once. So, save your pitiful wannabe tough talk for impressing the youngsters that admire your car. Oh, almost forgot, many of your "nonexistent threats" dont involve all this "set foot on my property" crap....

http://www.theforumlounge.com/showpost.php?p=75516&postcount=338

if my fist could come through the screen and into your face you'd be a bloody mess right now

how about a 12 gauge round to the head, BITCH?

how does that sound?

this one wasnt even to me, thus proving once and for all that even your claim of not threatening anyone else "except Jon" is BS:

I do visit CA....it's pretty easy to hide behind the internet you little piece of dog shit....I'll mop of the street with your worthless ass

Clearly it is to someone else, I dont live in CA....

hey you piece of shit....if you have any balls we should exchange a phone number or address....I need to pay you visit and bash your skull in

I'm done with this thread

but I look forward to paying you a little visit sometime, Jon

There is no doubt, with all that pent-up rage, that you didnt say this with the intent of having a poker night....:bigthumb:

There you have it....the truth, in Mark's own words....


we should be united in a few things:

1. we all hate Islam (I think), not the people, the religion

2. most of us believe Christ is the Son of God

so, we should start there

ahh, but we cannot "start there" and "be united".....because of YOU. You see, you have made it your mission in this forum to tell others what they are worth, what they believe, and whether or not GOD HATES THEM....when someone tells you that they believe in Christ, you bash the hell out of them and claim otherwise simply because they dont follow your point of view 100%. SO HOW CAN WE START THERE?? Maybe we could if you werent posting at all, but with your insults and ridiculous carrying-on, there is no way possible.

FORUM MEMBER: I believe in Jesus

MARK--no you dont, youre an adulterer and destined for hell, God hates you...I cannot wait for your judgment, I am going to walk on your grave and smile.

NOW, DO TELL MARK, where is the "unity" in this? Let me know when you find it.

there's no witch hunt--only you lying and your words alone proving that you lied. What "witch hunt" needs only your own words and actions to prove youre full of shit, Mark?? Did you not post those comments? Did I make them up?

didnt think so. Next time you make a threat, you can be sure that criminal charges will result. You got off way too easy last time, it wont happen again. Count on it, amigo...

the problem is that god does NOT WANT to get humanity to behave, he WANTS us to be horrible SO HE CAN PUNISH US.




Get over yourself. Who are you to say what the LORD desires? All you know are his past actions. If seeing those through the filter of your own soul invokes a taste of deliberate punishment, you need to seek therapy for help with the effects of your past abuses.

y-a-w-n

run along, psycho

wow, what a typical response. You know, you could really do something about this so-called "witch hunt" yourself....you could stop lying and tell the truth. I dont care what you call me--the fact is that you lie about everything. And your own posts prove it. Simply denying it over and over doesnt make that go away, Mark. Youre supposed to be an example for Christ...how well do you think it serves Him when you are lying constantly?

MArk, seriously, grow the hell up. I didnt deny one single aspect of my behavior. I didnt lie about any of it. I owned up, and have been making a solid effort to improve. That leaves you alone as the worst of this forum, where it used to be both of us.

What ever happened to your "lets be unified, since most of us believe in Jesus..." speech? EXACTLY what I told you happens--you then act like this. The only thing that changed about you is that you got a little older, and your hairline got a little closer to visiting vertebrae. Nothing else, obviously. You are still the same two-faced, double-speaking, dishonest, finger-pointing, over-arrogant sinner....who still refuses to stop lying about his actions and take responsibility like a man.

GROW UP, Mark, before you run out of time to do so.

Who are you to say what the LORD desires? All you know are his past actions. If seeing those through the filter of your own soul invokes a taste of deliberate punishment, you need to seek therapy for help with the effects of your past abuses.

the difference is that I look at 'his past actions' in the light of him being ALL powerful.

which makes ALL of his actions ENTIRELY voluntary.

which makes ALL THE RESULTS intended.

evil results equals evil intent.

the majority of humanity being tortured in hell for eternity IS evil because it serves NO function other than satisfying gods desire to punish.

what about it, psycho? how about if you actually post on topic instead of your usual post about me 99.9% of the time?

but you're outside the faith anyway...no true brother accuses another with the demonic zeal you possess

this is where you are dead wrong. There is not one single scripture that discourages a brother from TRUTHFULLY confronting another about their actions. If you do wrong, you are responsible for that. The bible INSTRUCTS PEOPLE TO CONFRONT THOSE WHO SIN AGAINST THEM, Mark. You know the scripture so well, and yet you forget this??

I didnt make these things up, you really did do what you now claim you didnt. I just showed your own words, where you were doing what you now deny. Dont try to make that my fault because you cant tell the truth about anything....its YOUR responsibility to be honest and show some maturity, not mine to do it for you.

Also, the topic of this thread became your threats before I even mentioned it--all I did was follow your lead, champ. And when you talk about it in a thread, you have just opened the door for someone else to comment. I dont care if you dont like that, thats the way it is. Dont like it?? Fine--stop lying about all the crap you do and there wouldnt be any reason to show you a liar yet again. Fair enough?? The ball's in your court now, Mark--you want this to stop? There is ONE way to do it....and thats for you to stop the lying altogether. Your choice....

you're not my brother

it's not your place to do anything here except post on topic, which you consistently fail to do

Who the hell do you think you are, telling me what my place is??

NEWS FLASH---this aint your forum, Mark. And you dont have any business telling me or anyone else here what they can or cannot post. The roids your sister in law talks about must be going to your head....seriously.

Why dont you simply wise up already? Lying in here isnt working for you. Thats why you get the responses you get, the ones that you cant stand. Rather than trying to lie some more and bully people to get them to stop telling the truth each time you tell a new lie, why dont you just stop lying to begin with? Do you HONESTLY believe that anyone in here thinks you are not lying right now, besides yourself? Do you REALLY think that bx, tofu, and the others cant see what youve done and what youre still doing? Do you think they cant read your posts and see for themselves? YOURE NOT FOOLING ANYONE, Mark. Dont you get it yet?

EDIT--whether you consider me a brother or not, it doesnt matter, because your original comment was this:

no true brother accuses another with the demonic zeal you possess

And what I said about scripture is dead on, so you are wrong in your guess.

someone who will rule over you?

This is what proves that you are no man of God....nor are you no follower of Christ. Not with this attitude. This is 100% all about your pride and ego, Mark, and it is obvious. This is not the attitude of a chosen one. The bible contains not one instruction from God, not anywhere, for the faithful to pridefully boast in such a thing. You wont rule over dirt, Mark, because you are so prideful and hate-filled. That is what stands between you and a REAL walk with Christ. God's grace and mercy place blessings everywhere, they are evident all around us, and yet the one thing you think of is "I'm gonna rule over you"??

you need mental help, Mark, and you need it fast.

bx thinks you're an ongoing joke

he PMs me regularly

well then, if he isnt honest about your absolute dishonesty, then he is not following the Word either. I dont care about what he thinks of me in private, if he doesnt have the stones to be straight up about things.

Funny how you dont mention tofu, who has rebuked you even publicly about your dishonesty and so on....but you dont want to discuss that, do you? Gee, I wonder why....

what? you've lied about being married for years

prove it....because I am. Its that simple. And I dont give a damn one way or the other what you think--prove me wrong. I am proving you wrong all over the place each time you deny your pathetic actions. Do the same, and prove me wrong....

LIAR!

prove ME wrong! I dare ya...produce a marriage license, right now

Mark, what is my full, real name? Answer me this...Go ahead. I give you permission to post it right here. Lets see what you got. And yes, there is a readon for me asking that ties into your pathetic "demands"....

LOL

that's right, psycho! you can't provide proof of being married because you would have to expose your real name! that would sure screw up all those aliases!

LOL....classic

LIAR

so...what is my name?

didnt think so...I could have just posted anything, like someone else's marriage certificate, if all I wanted to do was BS you the same way you only care about lying your butt off. But I didnt. And yes, I never did tell you my real name, why should anyone tell you? YOU--the guy that claimed more than once he was coming to find me? YOU--the one who boasts about how willing and ready he is to execute someone? YOU--the one on the verge of going postal? People in here have sincerely described you as "most likely to go on a killing spree".....yeah, lets all give you personal information!!

And now back to reality...

the difference is that I look at 'his past actions' in the light of him being ALL powerful.

which makes ALL of his actions ENTIRELY voluntary.

which makes ALL THE RESULTS intended.

evil results equals evil intent.

the majority of humanity being tortured in hell for eternity IS evil because it serves NO function other than satisfying gods desire to punish.

God help you.

Tell me, what is free will? What is desire? What is obedience? And what effect would the right choices have on the people who could make them, in order to better their situations?

Don't just tell me that God is RESPONSIBLE for your and my evil ACTIONS here and now...... That's the ultimate cop-out, that since He is all powerful and all knowing, He should just override our evil choices for our own good....

"for our own good", how's that sound? I can just see you spitting in disagreement with a God who forces HIS will on us, yet you scoff at the fact that HE gave us free will, which has resulted in the shithole called earth you so emphatically bitch about.

Hell is the result of people denying the Law and doing things their way. Free will exists so we can realize that following God is the only way into heaven. It's actually pretty simple to understand.

God help you.

thanks :D

Tell me, what is free will?

an interesting concept.

the ability to choose between different courses of action.

in christianity, for example, only god has free will, everybody else submits to his will, yes, even those who disobey his law.
it is gods will that the sinners who have not been chosen for forgiveness go to the hell he created for them.

it is gods will that EVERYBODY but him is a sinner.
he chooses to forgive some and not others.

as part of forgiveness god chooses to remove the blindfold that keeps sinful humanity from seeing the choice he pretends to give the ones he chooses to forgive.

the unchosen sinners are set on a path that leads directly to hell, with NO alternitive paths to freely choose.

the forgiven are also stripped of choice, since they are forgiven for all sin they cannot sin.
god, knowing what they will do has forgiven it .

just as nothing you can do can earn forgiveness, nothing you can do will get it taken away.

being able to choose to skip down the path, not knowing you are blindfolded is not free choice.



what effect would the right choices have on the people who could make them, in order to better their situations?

depends on who gets to judge what the right choices are.

'I don't care who they vote for, as long as I get to choose who is on the ballot.'


Don't just tell me that God is RESPONSIBLE for your and my evil ACTIONS here and now...... That's the ultimate cop-out, that since He is all powerful and all knowing, He should just override our evil choices for our own good....


first god blindfolds us, then he sends satan to whisper lies into our eager ear.

moslem terrorists hear god forgive them.




Hell is the result of people denying the Law and doing things their way. Free will exists so we can realize that following God is the only way into heaven. It's actually pretty simple to understand.

hell is gods choice, freely made.

there is literally nothing any puny human could do to force god to abolish hell.
equally, there is nothing humanity combined could do to force god to create hell, gods will is free from all constraint.

god chose to create and populate an eternal hell with people who will be surprised to go there, having never seen the path they were led down truely until Judgement, when the blindfold is torn away and the truth is finally revealed.

:bowdown: :screwyou: