They named it too hard I think but its better than St Anger.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4376367/Metallica_-_Death_Magnetic_[2008]

Well, i really really like My Apocalypse. If the album follows along that path i think i'll like it.

Yes. I like it, a lot actually. They made up for St. Anger with this one for me.

\m/

Yeah definitely better than st. anger. I liked it better than S&M, maybe even garage inc.

Eh, Garage was a pretty good album. Its good but I liked Garage quite a bit.

I liked Garage inc 2 better than 1. I think this is probably their best since Metallica. Maybe even on equal footing. The only song I dont really like so much (or like less than the others) is Unforgiven 3.

Yah not a big fan of that one either.

It's one of my favorites from this album actually.
My favorite Metallica albums are kill em all through and justice for all, and re-load. Garage inc was good. The rest are meh, including the self titled.

Is the whole album any good? I gave up on them after ....And Justice for All. They gave up their edge after that imo. I heard one new song on the radio the other day and it sounded like they actually want to be heavy again but I'm wanting to hear from people that the whole thing cranks before I actually believe it. Does it have anything like stuff from Master or Kill em All on it or is it just another rehash of shit like Wherever I may Roam and that kind of BS?

Why don't you just download it and see if you like it?

I've listened to about half of it and it is pretty sick so far. Definately worth a dl.

Sweet. I'm actually surprised that people are liking it so much so far. I think a lot of people are expecting it to be a continuation of kill em all or ride, which will never happen. Sorry guys, that was 24 years ago. But as I said I think they did a fantastic job on this album. They went back to their roots without outright copying what they've done before, while also having a large part of it their new ideas. You may or may not agree with me, but this album doesn't really sound like anything else that's out there. I would venture to say this is distinctly Metallica. I was half expecting it to be another St. Anger, and the other half of me was expecting it to be the slower softer sort of stuff from The End Of The Line. Which certainly sin't a bad song, I like it a lot! but I'd be pissed if the whole album was all slow like that one. But I was pleasently surprised when I heard the whole thing through and was blown away by how much thrash they ended up incorporating into it (really fast riffs, snare hits on upbeats, growly vocals).

Ok so I'm hammered and forgot what my point was. But this album is great. I wish Lars wasnt such a dumbshit (and a better drummer) aobut downloadign stuff, because the fact that I did download this album 'illegaly' made me decide that I will go to the store and BUY this album. And buy tickets to see them in Glendale. They have always put on a great show.

I wish Lars wasnt such a dumbshit (and a better drummer) aobut downloadign stuff, because the fact that I did download this album 'illegaly' made me decide that I will go to the store and BUY this album.
Yeah I'm in the same boat. I only DL'd it because I didn't want to wait for it to come out.

Favourite song = Cyanide

I think Mine is either The End Of The Line, or Broken, Beaten & Scarred. I really love the riffs in the second one.

Favourite song = Cyanide

They've been playing it on Sirius quite a bit on Octane.

I'll let you know how it sounds live in Nov. Ordered my tickets the other day.

I consider this a waste of $8.50 at Wal-Mart. Really not much better than the horrible "St. Anger": has a very industrial/thrash feel to it, with little musical value at all. You can certainly hear Rick Rubin's influence on this CD, it could pass for a collection of Slayer B-sides. I lament the passing of Kirk's solos on "Master of Puppets" and Hetfield's soulful vocals on tracks like "Unforgiven". This continues the sad decline of music in general: less music, more noise. This isn't metal in my book, it's a parttial birth abortion of metal.

Hmmm... well, that's one take on it. Here's another: You're musical tastes are now irrelevant. The scene has past you by and you no longer matter. The market doesn't care about you because you are stuck in the mainstream pitch that was thrown 20 years ago. That pitch, mind you, changes in sound, but the delivery is always the same.

correction: unpopular, not irrelevant...the defintion of true music doesn't change, despite the whims of fickle listeners, who only know what they are conditioned to appreciate

Irrelevant in the sense that bands no longer write music that appeals to your personal taste (even though bands like Metallica clearly are capable of doing so [and please don't tell me that Hetfeild was possessed by a demon during their earlier work]). As for fickle listeners, everyone is conditioned to some extent or another.

I'm a consumer like anyone else, even if I happen to be a minority

From a market perspective, you are not relevant, otherwise, someone out there would be making music that you enjoy for the purpose of selling it to you. You're market is so small that the only life force it has are washed up bands from the 80's making reunion tours because they blew all their money 10 years ago on hookers and blow. I don't mean to sound harsh here, but let's face it, that's the reality of the situation.

?

I mean that you were pitched then just as much as kids are today. That whole "devil's music" nonsense that sold then is comparable to whatever-the-fuck image that is pushed now.

you don't have a clue of alot of what's in 90% of my CD library because I don't discuss it here...trust me, it ain't Motley Crue, k? everyone likes to label/pigeonhole people, my tastes are very diverse, I appreciate alot of genres, metal is just what I use at the gym to get the blood flowing

heh, you seem to think that I listen to nothing but NIN and that it is my standard for good music. Granted, they are my favourite, but I too like to think that I am musically diverse. Oh well, it's not all bad. I think you and I get along just fine believing that the other doesn't have a clue ;)

what would Bach say about your "music"? what would God say?

I doubt the latter would care.

Sad but true and until is sleeps are not about demons.

Sad but true and until is sleeps are not about demons.

Until It Sleeps is about James' mother dying of cancer.

what would God say?

I'll bet He would say turn it up to 11 and sing along while doing air guitar.

nonsense

Cynthia's death and James' subsequently turbulent relationship with religion have both been the focal point of many Metallica lyrics throughout the years - the songs "Mama Said", "Dyers Eve" and "The God That Failed," are about Hetfield's parents, and "Until It Sleeps" is about cancer.[3]

Why don't you just download it and see if you like it?

Finally took a chance and got it today (along with the new Slipknot). I have to say that I was kinda of surprised and pleased with it. Yeah, it's not Kill 'em All or Master, but it's about the best thing they have done since ...And Justice... They actually have a little energy back in them, which is good to hear.

sounds like a wiki sound bite

like I said before, any of these guys is going to give a programmed answer to the press that doesn't make them seem too far out, I've seen plenty of interviews, even openly satanic bands, about the spirit world and they just deny, deny, deny they have anything to do with it...when clearly, they do

Oh you are so full of it!

So you like metallica from 82-88, and then after that they're satan worshippers singing aobut demons because you don't like their music anymore? Grow up, man. Seriously.

false assertion, based on nothing


Quick to point at people arent ya.


Heres one from you.

another horrible band...and they look like cokeheads

false assertion, based on nothing

I apologize, 82-91

"it's funny because even Hetfield himself has said "Justice.." was one of their worst overall albums, but it's the CD all the clueless jonnie come latleys who saw the first video jumped on....I picked up "Ride the Lightning" literally the day it came out, before anyone I knew even heard of them"

never said that, either, where did you get that from?

"Hetfield has written about demonism in numerous songs, including "Sad But True" and "Until it Sleeps" but that's another topic...he does believe in them, I can assure you that"

"at least that's what Rolling Stone says, but none of these guys is going to openly talk about the spirit word at the risk of being labeled nuts, esp in a big name interview"

"like I said before, any of these guys is going to give a programmed answer to the press that doesn't make them seem too far out, I've seen plenty of interviews, even openly satanic bands, about the spirit world and they just deny, deny, deny they have anything to do with it...when clearly, they do"

You seem convinced that metallica and hetfield himself is obsessed with demons. The only demons he worries about are the ones living in his head. Their songs have always been about struggling with drugs, war, religion, and death. The only one I can think of off the top of my head that about 'actual' monsters is Call of Cthulu... and that's an instrumental of a Lovecraft book. And its still about going insane too.

The funny part is you are a huge fan of Maiden (your one small redeeming quality, up the irons) and THEY have a song labeled "Number of the beast". Let's not forget "Bring your daughter ...to the slaughter".

Hmm.

learn how to read and stop twisting my posts around to mean what you want them to mean, bonehead

Yeah coming from the guy who literally twists peoples words around when he quotes them.

bullshit...that's the profession of hacks like you

Are you serious?

Nice selective memory. Anyway, i don't get a kick out of getting a rise out of you, so whatever you say, boss.

no way...the sound and musical quality of the Black album leaves this thing for dead


Technically, I would agree with you, but I meant to say Master of Puppets, not Justice. Justice was the last album I thought they had any kind of real energy on, but it was easy to tell they were starting to over-produce their stuff on that one to the point of muting their sound. I agree that Justice was the beginning of the "low-fi" version of the band, if you will. It got progressively worse on the Black album imo. At least Justice had a tightness to their power, although I thought it was retrained. On the Black album, it sounded like they said the hell with it and threw all the production tricks into it, along with a healthy pinch of sell-out so they could continue the "success" of videos like "One". Personally, I can't stand it when a band does that stuff but oh well, they have to eat too I guess.

Production-wise, yes, the Black album was technically a "better" album than this new one. In much the same way, Def Leppard's Pyromania was a much better produced album than On Through the Night, but it also completely sucked and was a complete sell-out, whereas OTTN was actually kind of ballsy for it's time comparatively. :)

it's funny because even Hetfield himself has said "Justice.." was one of their worst overall albums, but it's the CD all the clueless jonnie come latleys who saw the first video jumped on....I picked up "Ride the Lightning" literally the day it came out, before anyone I knew even heard of them

lol

I'm in my 40s and remember when Kill 'Em All came out. I figured wtf and bought the album a few months after it came out to see what the hoopla was about concerning the west coast metal at the time. Back then (and still today) I was big into the nwobhm (Maiden (with Paul Dianno), Priest, Motorhead, etc.) along with some NY bands like Riot and The Rodz and no one in my area really heard much of what was coming from the west. All we heard was the same old tired Motley Crue/ Ratt/ Wasp/ etc (which I hated).

After Kill em All and Lightning came out, I thought it was a good change from the glam metal stuff.

But you are right. A lot of people didn't give Metallica credit until shit like "One" came out. By then, you could see that they were sounding tired and worn out.

I still like Dio more.

Tough choice...

as cliche as some might say, Holy Diver. I really like Don't Talk To Strangers, but Holy Diver, man when you want to rock.... Dio.

Back to the topic at hand, after listening to Death Magnetic again, it's grown on me more. Don't know the track names, since I'm doing things while listening, but I like it more now.

there's something magic about Hetfield's voice on "Puppets" imo...there is a desperate tone to his voice that brings it all into focus....the new stuff just isn't doing it for me

I share those sentiments.

Death Magnetic is awesome

hey, it's a big step in the right direction from NIN ;)

The Slip was better

They make money from touring and merchandise sales. I feel no sympathy for Metallica, they have made some money over the years.

I share those sentiments.

I do too for the most part concerning Metallica. They've been lame for a long time imo. But, this new one seems to have a spark in it that they haven't had in a number of years.

The Slip was better

I can listen to The Slip on repeat, I end up forgetting which songs on this album come next... it's good, but The Slip is more good. ;)

I can listen to The Slip on repeat, I end up forgetting which songs on this album come next... it's good, but The Slip is more good. ;)

agree. I went about a month where I listened to it everyday. Then I stopped for about a month, then went back and listened to get again and it still rocked as much as the first time I heard it.

I can listen to a lot of NIN's stuff on repeat. I can listen to a lot of Metallica, too, though. It's not that this album is barely passable, it is. It's just not up to snuff with their older stuff. BUT!!! But, it's still pretty good.

Death Magnetic is an amazing album.

/.02

still one of my favorite solos...what I loved about Metallica of old is the ability to combine incredible heavy riffs with great melodies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyYZFtnCTE4&feature=related

St Anger had no heavy riffs with melodies... I liked about 3 songs off of there, they were really thrashy though.

DM however, will remind you of pre-black album metallica. The music itself is amazing... Hetfield's voice isn't what it used to be though.

Hetfield's voice isn't what it used to be though.

Heavy drinking will do that.

Heavy drinking will do that.

I thought when he was drinking heaviest he sounded the best...

I thought when he was drinking heaviest he sounded the best...


Maybe someone should send him a case of Jack. Heavy alcohol use for the most part will ruin your voice eventually.


Avoid smoke-filled rooms and excessive use of alcohol. People who wish to keep their voices natural should avoid cigarette smoke which can irritate the vocal cords. (Incidentally, marijuana smoke is hotter than that from tobacco and even more irritating to the vocal cords.) Excess alcohol intake can produce a lowered pitch and hoarseness -- the notorious "whisky voice."

Maybe someone should send him a case of Jack. Heavy alcohol use for the most part will ruin your voice eventually.

That's exactly it! The lower hoarseness, that was good.

Heavy drinking will do that.

So will getting old.

So will getting old.


http://www.lolstash.com/images/zpqxclnocrx53lpamhkg.jpg

yeah but he was 24 years old or whatever, you can get away with it for awhile then (you should know)



I still remember the first time my Dad told me this was Aerosmith:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3qqBgfFPNg&feature=related

Because the first I had ever heard of them was this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8A0rhVG91U

and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHHEQPBoPCU

And I said, "Man, that's the same singer????" His voice got fucking destroyed.

:rofl:

then again, you liked "St. Anger", so your opinion is highly questionable

That had some 'meh' tracks on it, not too bad, just not terrific/anywhere near anything else they've done.

Okay, just listened to this album again and it still rocks. If you don't like it, then you are a homo. period.

*clueless 21 year old punk :)

a hard cry from the old school, master of pupets,

most of this new rock sucks,its all about old school rock/metal

a bunch of sell outs

underground rock,there is talent but most of the time the famous bands lack something