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Just got back from Baja, and holy shit am I way too fat.


so bring on the ridicule :hide:

drink only water, start running everyday and workout with weights doing more reps with less weight.

l- arginine.

Does 2 things for weight:

Suppresses appetite

Increase growth hormone, which contributes to lean muscle mass.

Side effects:

*snicker*

Swim. Thats it. I drink alot of alcohol everyday. I eat pasta every day, and a lot of other fattening shit.

I swim a 100 easy. Then a 100 all out. Then a 100 easy. Then a 100 all out. Then I swim a butterfly stroke with a flutter kick for a 50. 100 if I'm feeling like a badass. Then I float around for maybe 5-10 minutes to cool off. I do this 4 days a week, 5 every once in a while.

I drink like a fish, so I figure I must swim a lot to stay at breeding weight.


It won't make you strong, but it'll keep you in really good shape. I've been swimming since age 12 and have gained 5 lbs since I was 18 years old. I'll be 24 in a few weeks.

Cocaine.

Im prob much fatter. I exercise occasionally and eat a LOT of junk. I did try eating right and exercising for all of 2 weeks... lost 12lbs... didn't stay off very long.

if you wanna do it the right way run get on a cutting diet and just pwn it up.
you wanna do it the fast way ... clenbutrol ...

stop drinking soda

Lyposuction (however you spell that, i think thats right)

what do you want to do?

do you want to lose weight only or do you also want to build some muscle while losing weight?


im sure its the latter....

start lifting weights for a beginner i suggest doing exercises that work out more than one muscle group (benches and squats especially).

then get cardio 2 or three times a week. i would suggest doing something you enjoy (ie basketball, surfing, etc)

weight lifting still burns calories long after the workout is done. meanwhile cardio only burns calories for the time you are working out. you will see more gains by lifting weights and doing a little cardio than just doing cardio

Wrong wrong and wrong
Its all about blood type.
if ya an A type, start thinking about being a vegetarian. If ya 'o', you eat like a cow yet dont get fat.
What is your blood type?

uhm, metabolism != blood type. I think i'm A, eat like a pig (ask sup), and still don't get really fat.

and fwiw, 2000lbs of angry bull chasing you is pretty good motivation to get up and move.

Oh good excerise. Try this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5qoMfBJUeI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjapundit%2Ecom%2F

blah.

I agreed to work out with the army recruiters starting in two weeks. That'll get my ass in shape, and might wind up with a contract for gov't service too :)

sprint all out for a minute, then jog for two; no stopping

repeat about 5 or 6 times
shouldn't take any longer then 20 minutes or so

Wrong wrong and wrong
Its all about blood type.
if ya an A type, start thinking about being a vegetarian. If ya 'o', you eat like a cow yet dont get fat.
What is your blood type?
I've never heard that. What if your AB?

* Type O's (46 % of the population), belong to the oldest genetic group and need to eat meat virtually every day to satisfy your ancient, hunter-gatherer genes. Type O's should also avoid oats, wheat, and most grains, because they are all products of an agriculture that didn't exist when O's originated.
* Type A's (40% of the population) evolved after the start of agrarian society and are best off as a vegetarian.
* Type B's (10 % of the population) emerged as humans migrated toward colder, harsher climates. Bs' can have the most varied diet, including meat, and theirs is the only blood type that does well with dairy products.
* Type AB (4% of the population) is a relatively modern adaptation that arose from the intermingling of the A's and the B's. Therefore, AB's have the benefits and intolerances of types A and B.

this thread is moot.

supper is probably losing mad weight now from all the sex he's having.

supper is probably losing mad weight now from all the sex he's having.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

supper is probably losing mad weight now from all the sex he's having.
:bigthumb:

that along with 5 mile runs ever MWF and muscle failure ever TR, I'm dropping fat pretty good ATM :)

will swimming help?

will swimming help?

Anything that gets your heart rate up helps.

Anything that gets your heart rate up helps.

Then prepare for some help:









http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Alex-7/head-gay2.jpg

ahahaha

Hmm, I should swim more often!

low carb or other forms of dieting can be okay, but as counterintuitive as it sounds, if you're working out and following a certain diet you shouldn't drastically reduce you caloric intake. You need energy for the exercise, and day to day functioning, or your body will go into 'conserve' mode and slow down fat burning.

Here's a good way to figure out what you need:

First, figure out your resting metabolic rate. On average it's 10x your body weight, and is the calories you need to breathe, pump blood, etc.

Weight x 10 = RMR

Now you need to factor in your daily activity burn apart from exercise. This is basic activities like brushing your teeth, walking to your car, cursing Ann Coultier, etc. This is a ballpark figure - if you sit in front of a computer all day it'll be lower than if you're a construction worker, for example.

RMR x 20% = DAB

Then add in your caloric requirements for exercise. Many people often overestimate this, but if you're doing a military style workout for at least a solid hour you can figure about 600 calories

RMR + DAB + 600 = X

Now you know X, your energy amount. Eating at or just under the amount will ensure you're growing muscle and keeping your metabolism humming without going into starvation-response conservation, which would suck.

If X = 1800 to 2400, try to eat 1800 calories per day.
If X = 2400 to 3000, try to eat 2400 calories per day.
If X = 3000 +, try to eat 3,000 calories per day.

And watch what you eat. 3,000 calories of fast food aren't going to be as effective for you as 3,000 calories of fresh fruits, dried pasta, unprocessed meats, and raw or lightly steamed veggies

I am using HerbaLife. It seems to be doing the trick.

I'm curious, now that its 8 months later, how he's doing with his workout?

I'm curious, now that its 8 months later, how he's doing with his workout?
wow... its been 8 months since I posted this?

I'm doing allright, haven't been on a scale in a while. Last time I was the weight was still the same, but the gut size was smaller.

That makes sense, muscle weighs more than fat, so as you replace fat with muscle, you're not going to see results on a scale.

One thing I'm surprised didn't get brought up was martial arts. And diets don't work. Just stop eating the crap you know is really bad for you (fast food), and do whatever excercise you enjoy, whether that be running, swimming, weightlifting, cardio-kickboxing, ballet, or just spinning in a circle for hours on end.

i lost a lot of weight (50lbs) by calorie counting. there are a number of programs you can use to help you keep track of your daily calorie intake, as well as the number of calories you burn daily. you should consume two to three hundred calories less than what your body requires to sustain itself. the types of calories matter.

i think a 50, 25, 25 percent intake of protein, fat, and carbs respectively is a good split. on top of that exercise. weight training, high intensity interval training, cardio, anything you like. make sure you work out your large muscle groups (back, legs). when you start working out your back you will also have to start doing crunches etc to work out your abs.

i like hiit http://www.davedraper.com/hiit-cardio-training.html

do not starve yourself. you will lose muscle mass, not fat. if you are losing more than two pounds a week you are not losing weight in a healthy manner.

make sure you eat no more and NO LESS than the number of calories you have calculated for yourself.

Here we go.

I used to be very big into lifting, and still do lift and excercise regularly, but am no longer concerned with increasing my bench or any of that shit. With that said, YZF is right, I believe that weight training is a HUGE way to lose weight. Coupled with the right diet of course. You get your abs in the kitchen my friend, that's the place to start.

Now, if you want to lose your fat and keep your muscle, PM me and I will set you up on the cutting diet that always worked for me. You won't be limited to shitty tasteless foods, I promise.

I still say cocaine--it's a hell of a drug.

You really have to do a whole lot of coke to lose weight. If I wanted to lose weight and develop a drug addiction I'd do meth.

Sweet, i'll give it at try... is it cheaper than coke?

What do you really need teeth for anyway

Sweet, i'll give it at try... is it cheaper than coke?


Hell yeah!

Actually I really don't know, never had the desire to do meth. I believe coke runs about $60 a gram in the South, I assume Meth is cheaper since it's made by poor rednecks and costs almost nothing to produce. But yeah, say goodbye to your teeth, your life, your friends, your job, and any money you have laying around. I've had friends get hooked on that shit back home, and it's bad news.

60 bucks a gram? Damn....that will buy you a half ounce of good marijuana up here.

60 bucks!?! Shit, try about $140. I lived in upstate NY for a long time, never had bud that cheap.

I get an 8th of good stuff for 15 bucks. 5 bucks a gram is the going rate nowadays up here. Never heard of 2 for 10?

Either you and I have a very different opinion of good stuff, or you live in the ghetto. Anywhere from $35 to $50 an 1/8th when I was growing up, and pretty much still is that price. I am talking about standard indoor chronic, no name brands. For something like juicy fruit or grandaddy purple we are talking like $65 and 1/8th.

I can get mids for around the prices you are quoting. Not chronic.

I'm also going to go ahead and assume that this thread has turned into another failed diet attempt.

I'm also going to go ahead and assume that this thread has turned into another failed diet attempt.
heh. Never said I was going to "diet."

I lost ~ 10 pounds and have actually been able to maintain it this summer instead of gaining it back since when I'm stressed I eat, and let me just tell you how stressfull this summer has been; I wound up breaking a perfectly healthy tooth because I clench my jaw when stressed. Yay.

Anyway, I'm planning on tracking the weight loss this fall. Hoping to drop 10 - 20 pounds by december.

Now, if you want to lose your fat and keep your muscle, PM me and I will set you up on the cutting diet that always worked for me. You won't be limited to shitty tasteless foods, I promise.
you mind just posting it up here? Guess I should have actually read this thread more often...

Yeah post that shit. I need to lose about 10 pounds too.

If you really want to lose weight and be a cut bad ass like me, YOu need to control and focus on diet along with A weight training routine. I lift 3 days a week, run 1 1/2 miles 5 days a week, core train 2-3 days week for abs and sing 3-5 days a week (which is cardio and corestrenght training the way I do it).

Look at my Myspace to see results of it. I eat an all-natural diet and make my dinners from scratch often. at least healf my diet consists of organic food. I use Supplements as well to maximize results and gains.

Just PM me if you really want to get serious and I'll help.

Did this nigga just say sing for exercise? Lol

Did this nigga just say sing for exercise? Lol
Sounds to me like we have a Tay Zonday (http://youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA) wannabe. Do you move away from the mic to breathe in?

Queen already made me watch a couple of episodes of that horrid thing.

The formula for losing weight: Take in less calories than you burn.

Eat right-(this takes in less calories)
Exercise-(this burns more calories)

It's that simple people... the age old formula is the only thing that works. Don't believe any miracle bullshit-it isn't going to happen. There are "tricks" to raising your metabolic rate, thus burning more calories but that's the very end of "tricks" when it comes to weight loss...

1: The more muscle mass, the more calories burned at rest, the higher your metabolism.

2: Drink cold, plain water... lots of it. Your body has to heat it to digest, burning calories in the process, but also water is needed for nearly all bodily functions.

3: Sleep. If you don't sleep and/or eat enough, your body thinks there is a famine and lowers your metabolism. Physiological functions are then effected and you feel like shit.

4: Don't eat 3 large meals a day. Don't skip meals. For most adult males, 6, 300 calorie meals a day consisting of lean protein, fiber, complex carbs, and GOOD fats (polyunsaturated, omega3/6----Good sources: fish, grilled.)

If you want success, this is abuot the only way to do it. If you don't have the heart/will you are going to die younger, not get as much out of life and feel like crap most of the time. Think of eating as a task rather than a hobby.

Oops 5: Some thermogenics do work, the ECA stack probably has seen the most real results. However, this can get dangerous. People take too much, for too long. If you choose to do this do 25mg ephedrine, 200mg caffiene, and 80-160 mg of aspiring depending on weight, twice a day. Do 2 weeks on, and 2-4 weeks off. Abuse it and you will have a heart attack and/or damage your liver, kidneys, and stomach.

I'd recommend not using this shit and doing it the tried a true way.

Oops 5: Some thermogenics do work, the ECA stack probably has seen the most real results. However, this can get dangerous. People take too much, for too long. If you choose to do this do 25mg ephedrine, 200mg caffiene, and 80-160 mg of aspiring depending on weight, twice a day. Do 2 weeks on, and 2-4 weeks off. Abuse it and you will have a heart attack and/or damage your liver, kidneys, and stomach.

I'd recommend not using this shit and doing it the tried a true way.
you can ask anyone that knows me, I don't do the whole pill popping thing. Blood, sweat, and tears is the only way to go.

So hows your progress going?

So hows your progress going?
heh. I have been out of town for work for the last pretty much three months straight. Haven't been in a gym in four months. Been living on fast food and gas station gut bombs and haven't gained any of the weight back I lost last year.

I'm thinking I'm doing good under the circumstances. Aug27th is when I start hitting the gym again.

One thing you can always do: Walk. Walk half an hour at a good pace, turn around and come back. You should get 3-4 miles easily.

As far as eating on the run...
1: Mcdonald's salads with balsemic vinegarette dressing + grilled chicken. I like the southwest one, less than ~400 calories with 2 packets of dressing... i only use 1 though.

2: Subway-wheat bread, lean meat, no cheese/bad stuff. Can be high in sodium, but better than other shit high in sodium, sugar, and saturated fat.

3: bk, wendys, mcdonalds, wherever... order 2 grilled chicken sandwiches, eat the chicken, throw the rest of the shit away.

4: bottled water out the ass.

You CAN make smart(er) choices while on the go. Breakfast can be the hardest because nowhere serves healthy breakfast... look at buying protein bars if you can't eat cereal.

One thing you can always do: Walk. Walk half an hour at a good pace, turn around and come back. You should get 3-4 miles easily.
try doing that after working for 10 hours out in the field climbing ladders several hundred times per day. All you want to do after that is shower, eat, and sleep.

I forget sarcasm doesn't come though without teal. I can laugh at myself and did when I typed out 'bad-ass'. And yes, sing. I sing in a metal band, screaming too. Think Meshuggah style screams.

And it is more complex than colories in and calories burnt, though that is a good basis. Seriously, I get some great results though. I've been helped by a friend who can bench over 500 with weight technique and what exercises to use.

I'm kinda an amature/hobbyist nutritionistist now. I've proven my knowledge many times on 7 club. Guess it's a fresh start here though :)

And it is more complex than colories in and calories burnt, though that is a good basis.

No, it really isn't. As mentioned, there are ways to cut calories, and burn more calories, but the loss of weight is as simple as burning more calories than you take in. Now run along and do some singing fag.

No, it really isn't. As mentioned, there are ways to cut calories, and burn more calories, but the loss of weight is as simple as burning more calories than you take in. Now run along and do some singing fag.

It is. Yes, what you're saying is the basic idea. However, depending on the source of the calories changes how your body will burn it. For example, carbohydrate calories, fat calories, and protein calories. They are all going to be used by the body for different purposes and are metabolized differently. So no, not as simple.

I promise you if you get all your calories from sugar and fat it'll make a difference. I'm likely more cut than you ever will be and I get that way because I so carefully choose my diet and nutritional timing. Simply altering your calorie bias will alter your body while still taking in a similar amount.

I'm sure you wish I was gay, since you obviously want me so much. Sad news though, I only pound puss. as for my singing, it will bring me plenty along with some decent money. So I will take your advice to run along and sing.

I'm sure you wish I was gay, since you obviously want me so much. Sad news though, I only pound puss. as for my singing, it will bring me plenty along with some decent money. So I will take your advice to run along and sing.


You sing in a metal band, and are expecting to make money? Hahahahahaha!!!!

It is. Yes, what you're saying is the basic idea. However, depending on the source of the calories changes how your body will burn it. For example, carbohydrate calories, fat calories, and protein calories. They are all going to be used by the body for different purposes and are metabolized differently. So no, not as simple.

I promise you if you get all your calories from sugar and fat it'll make a difference. I'm likely more cut than you ever will be and I get that way because I so carefully choose my diet and nutritional timing. Simply altering your calorie bias will alter your body while still taking in a similar amount.

I'm sure you wish I was gay, since you obviously want me so much. Sad news though, I only pound puss. as for my singing, it will bring me plenty along with some decent money. So I will take your advice to run along and sing.
Yes, it is that simple. Choosing sources of calories is opting to burn more by raising the metabolic rate. I've heard the "I look so good and get so many girls" bullshit from every tool on this forum at one point or another. 1: I don't give a shit. 2: If you were secure in that which you're stating, you wouldn't bring it up every change you get.

You sing in a metal band, and are expecting to make money? Hahahahahaha!!!!

no, not expecting. I make supplemental income with it right now. I make enough money to stay on tour when I tour. I expect nothing but to have a good time :)

Choosing sources of calories is opting to burn more by raising the metabolic rate.

By saying that you've agreed.It isn't as simple as just lowering calories to loose weight. It's also in choosing the sources for the calories to increase metabolism is important. Having a higher protein biased calorie intake has been shown to increase resting metabolism.

A calorie is a calorie, yes and lowering calories alone will help to lose weight . But gross energy versus metabolize energy. for example, Carbohydrates allow more potential energy expenditure during physical activites than fat calories. Choosing the right calories will increase the effect and you can even maintain the same calories and stil cut weight by changing the sources!

I've heard the "I look so good and get so many girls" bullshit from every tool on this forum at one point or another. 1: I don't give a shit. 2: If you were secure in that which you're stating, you wouldn't bring it up every change you get.

I'm really not sure we're arguing now. And I'm happy you don't give a shit for#1. I assume your doing fine because you seem to have some knowledge on how to handle your diet. I'm not saying I look good, just cut. I'm happy with how I've changed my body in the past several years from a skinny guy with a bit of a spare tire. some girls think I'm good looking, some don't. #2 I'm very secure in the fact you like teh schlong.