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BATMAN
05-05-2009, 10:47 AM
Earth's surface is mostly fresh in geologic terms.

Weathering — wind and water, freezing and thawing — takes its toll, and longer-term changes caused by volcanic activity and sliding crustal plates, known as tectonic activity, fold today's ground into tomorrow's interior.

The constant makeover of the planet is typically fastest in the mountains, slower in the tectonically inactive deserts.

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A new study of ancient "desert pavement" in Israel's Negev Desert finds a vast region that's been sitting there exposed, pretty much as-is, for about 1.8 million years, according to Ari Matmon and colleagues at Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

It is the oldest known vast expanse of surface area. In fact it is more than four times older than the confirmed next oldest desert pavement, in Nevada, according to an article at the web site of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

The newly dated desert pavement does not represent the oldest material on Earth, however. A lot of individual rocks have been found that are much older.

But Matmon's team dated the entire surface as a "geomorphic feature," he told LiveScience. "Since the initial formation of desert pavement (the material we dated) is genetically related to the age of the surface we dated the surface itself," he said. "We did not choose the outstanding anomalous rocks on the surface."

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The results show that in regions that are extremely flat and arid, where tectonic activity is low and rocks are highly resistant to weathering, the surface can be preserved for millions of years, Matmon said. "This is something we were not sure about until now," he said.

The finding is detailed in the current issue of the journal GSA Bulletin.

The dating was done by measuring concentrations of a certain isotope, called 10Be, that is produced only at the surface and which indicates how long something has been exposed.

"The surface we dated most likely represents large areas in the Sahara and Arabia Deserts," Matmon said. "We hope to be able to collect samples from other locations in the Sahara and Arabia Deserts and establish the global extent of these old surfaces.

sonofabelch
05-05-2009, 04:23 PM
Here's where we need Mark the most.

Teh Noob
05-05-2009, 04:38 PM
We don't need mark anywhere... ever.

A lot of places out west fine the heck out of you for stepping on the "geocrust". Each foot print is like a couple grand.

sonofabelch
05-05-2009, 04:49 PM
We don't need mark anywhere... ever.


lol true. But still, he was such a treat in thread like this....

dg123
05-05-2009, 04:52 PM
Strange, I always thought it was the Pacific trenches that were considered to be the oldest places on Earth. Some quick math says that by the time the crust starts subducting under Asia, it is 47.5 million years old...

mazdaspeedrex
05-05-2009, 09:22 PM
But the Bible says the earth is only 6000 years old. So repent or you're going to hell.

It just doesn't feel right without the rants from Mark.

sonofabelch
05-06-2009, 07:10 AM
Too bad there wasn't away to limit his responses to only 4 a day or something. He did tend to kill threads with his rants, but sometimes, he actually had semi-valid points. Mostly though, those points were covered up and buried under the BS.

Anyway, I'm still too stupid to understand how people can determine how one part of the earth is older than others. Is this article just a matter of figuring out which part of the exposed portion of earth is oldest? How do they come to that conclusion?

no_more_rice
05-06-2009, 10:03 AM
Wow...I think you're the one with the foul "rants". Quoting the Bible is not "BS".

Teh Noob
05-06-2009, 10:37 AM
I think this is considered the oldest, large expanse of unchanged surface. The pacific trenches change too often.
Strange, I always thought it was the Pacific trenches that were considered to be the oldest places on Earth. Some quick math says that by the time the crust starts subducting under Asia, it is 47.5 million years old...

sonofabelch
05-07-2009, 04:44 PM
Wow...I think you're the one with the foul "rants". Quoting the Bible is not "BS".

Hi, you must be new and certainly not anyone who's ever been here before, nor related to anyone who's ever been banned here several hundred times over......welcome!

Quoting the Bible is not BS. Quoting the Bible and using it to ram it's message up the ass of the unwilling like an un-lubed cylindrical twist of jagged tin foil is, however, quite a different story.

If there is a side to this discussion which you would like to present in a mature, calm manner, I'd love to hear it :)

Teh Noob
05-07-2009, 05:09 PM
good post!
Hi, you must be new and certainly not anyone who's ever been here before, nor related to anyone who's ever been banned here several hundred times over......welcome!

Quoting the Bible is not BS. Quoting the Bible and using it to ram it's message up the ass of the unwilling like an un-lubed cylindrical twist of jagged tin foil is, however, quite a different story.

If there is a side to this discussion which you would like to present in a mature, calm manner, I'd love to hear it :)

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