Article IX, Sec. 2, of the Tennessee constitution ("No Atheist shall hold a civil office") states: "No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments shall hold any office in the civil department of this state." Arkansas, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Texas have similar laws.

It's often forgotten, but seven states of the Union still define atheists, secular humanists, and other freethinkers as second-class citizens. The state constitutions of Arkansas, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas retain historic provisions that ban unbelievers-and in some cases, minority religionists as well-from holding public office, bearing witness in court, or both. The Pennsylvania and Texas constitutions go further yet, declaring their debt to "Almighty God" in their preambles.

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http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=flynn_20_1


Discuss...

If God wasn't such a douche, we'd be friends.

so to be a public servant in those states you must believe that submitting to the will of a master who orders his slaves to murder women and children is the height of virtue.

swell, do they issue you a head towel or must you supply your own ?

right, let's not forget humanity having all got together and cooperating with each other in peaceful CONSTRUCTIVE harmony, and then in a fit of jealous rage and fear of being outstripped by his creation god maliciously damages the speech centers of every human being on the planet, insuring a perpetual state of war for the rest of human history.

babel in deed.

God must act in certain periods of human history to temporarily interrupt the inevitable downward spiral....His next act will be final (and the most severe imaginable)

I am thinking about the International Space Station, it is in a decaying orbit and unattended would burn in the atmosphere.

to temporarily interrupt the inevitable downward spiral we give it added thrust, boosting it higher.

the inevitable downward spiral can be easily completely defeated by simply giving it enough additional thrust to achieve escape velocity.

roaming through the living space and smashing all the instruments because they monitor the wrong stuff to prevent reentry is sort of the opposit of adding thrust.

rather it is working to support the agenda that the ISS MUST BURN and is making it so.

note that ALL the times that god decided that he " must act in certain periods of human history" his act was PURELY DESTRUCTIVE.

even giving the jews the Fully Furnished Promised Land involved breaking down the doors and murdering all the people that actually BUILT the stuff that god instructed his Chosen to steal.

the point of having The Flood instead of The Plague was to destroy ALL the WORKS of mankind up to that point.

consistantly the works of god are to smash humanity down, even jesus.

jesus finally figured out how to uplift humanity and was starting to get things done toward adding some much needed thrust to humanities decaying orbit, and god arranges for him to be killed most horribly, smashing his church and leaving the broken fragments to form evil heresy's like catholicism and islam.

:screwyou: witness the mighty acts God used to bring Israel out of Egypt,

to free the jews from the slavery HE bound them to, god waged biowar against a helpless nation of people WHO HAD NO IDEA why all this horrible stuff was killing them.
moses spoke to pharoah who is never mentioned making public proclamations about the next plague to strike so they could keep their pet jews.

no "the jews god is now going to kill every firstborn in the land but we are still refusing to give the jews permission to leave, I will not be swayed.
will the firstborns of each family please report to their nearest graveyard to help out our currently overstressed corpse transportation oxen, love, pharoah."

god literally used Weapons of Mass Destruction on a bronze age population.

to steal SOME slaves.

as opposed to Creating a 100 foot cube of Gold and buying them back from the folks he sold them to.


sustain them in their journey,

during which god lit a fire in the camp that burned thousands to death, set loose a plague that killed thousands more, and caused the ground to open up and swallow entire families sending them streight to hell, families INCLUDING their slaves.

as punishment,

as opposed to assigning an angel to each offender to swat them about the head and shoulders with a rolled up newspaper while shouting " BAD HUMAN, NO ! NO ! " for a week.

then decimate their enemies in the Land

again, genocide, mass killings, slaughter of entire nations.

instead of Creating nice, air conditioned, apartment buildings, or just giving the current occupants an urge to go somewhere else and make new nations, North America for instance, a few ark building tips and a favorable breeze and uncounted thousands of childrens blood need not have been shed.


destruction, never construction. no boosting up, only tearing down.

:bowdown: :screwyou:

babble

apparantly "babble" means "the literal word of god read literally without any slant and therefor inarguable. run away"

that "babble" was a simple listing of what god DID, all of which was HARMFUL and not intended to show love or mercy for anyone, INCLUDING to those He "loves" who WERE required TO PERSONALLY SLAUGHTER uncounted thousands in gods name.

the closest to god being nice is where god decides to murder lots of OTHER people instead of MORE of his "chosen people" and DOES IT HIMSELF instead of forcing his "chosen people" to get their hands bloody.

oops, more "babble", run away.

:bowdown: :screwyou:


{note: the :screwyou: smilie that led my previous post was a screwup, it was supposed to go at the bottom but I lost it, and didn't see it until I just now read the posted thread, oops. please disregard it.}

my point is that god is universally "severe", his "goodness" consists SOLELY of REFRAINING from being as severe as he normally is.

as in, "see how good I am to you ? I am not hitting you THIS TIME like I am hitting everybody else."

God doesn't work that way (or He wouldn't be God)

semantically equal to saying that the abusive drunk doesn't work that way, or he wouldn't be an abusive drunk.

so god MUST slaughter nations because it is what defines him AS god.

hence the proliferation of false bibles so that there will be nations for god to slaughter as proof of his holy goodness.

killing large numbers of people for trivial, made up, reasons being indisputable proof of divinity.

:bowdown: :screwyou:

who acquit the guilty for a bribe,
but deny justice to the innocent.

for the price of your aquittal was paid by the blood of jesus on the cross
kill them all, man woman and child, saving only the virgin girls for your personal pleasure.

put down the crack pipe

pick up the bible and actually read what it says.

you do not dispute WHAT I SAY because I am simply saying what the bible says.


"Let us do evil that good may result"

in the slaughter of a city in the Promised Land the jews showed compassion and mercy and did NOT kill all the children AS GOD HAD COMMANDED.

this was evil of them, they did evil, in not murdering the children, that good might result.

the trick here is in defining evil as NOT MURDERING CHILDREN.

Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,

god TRANSFORMS evil into good and good into evil.

what was evil, murdering a cityful of children, BECOMES good, and what was good, NOT murdering a cityful of children, becomes evil.

it takes a god to make evil good and good evil, a evil man can only CALL evil good, god makes it True.

and punishes the evil.

god TRANSFORMS evil into good and good into evil.
it takes a god to make evil good and good evil, a evil man can only CALL evil good, god makes it True.

for example, Human sacrifice is evil, and to test abram's Faith god transformed the evil into good by telling him to sacrifice his son.

abraham PASSED the test, he Believed that god had the power to transform evil into good and so prepared to do the good deed that god required, cutting his sons throat for the glory of god.

god then changed human sacrifice BACK to evil {maybe, it is arguable he left it good}

abraham proved his greatness by being able to look forward with EQUAL JOY at both serving god by murdering his son or just killing a sheep.

either way was just perfect by him, since it was gods perfect good either way.

abraham understood in his bones that HIS concept of good and evil was totally worthless and ONLY the will of god decided what was good or evil.

he was Chosen because he Believed in a god who could, and would, change evil to good and good to evil by his Word.

Chosen to father a tribe who WOULD slaughter a Sunday School class on command.


the Sacrifice of jesus is a similar test, the only way to the father is to accept a human sacrifice as ultimate good.

that god would accept and require a human sacrifice.

THAT is what "under god" means, surrendering the human ability to recognize evil to god.

heh,

more "babble", run away.

if there was something WRONG in what I post you could show it, you cannot.

you have NEVER answered my challange to show god doing GOOD.

you run away, and want me to follow you into moral cowardice.

yet you want your cowardly brutal morality teacher to lead MY country.

into abject subugation and moral reletivisim where mass murder will be considered holy if ordered by the "approved" authority.


no wonder the moslems are winning, coward.

take it elsewhere,

WOW, your god DOES move in mysterious ways, his cowards to protect.

I dint even know there WAS a politics forum here, and suddenly here I am, just,:gay2: wow.

lol this thread was needed to endorse this particular forum. Kind of cool if not genius to move it here actually.

Talk to me Honegod. Whats the honegod doing now a days?

the wedding is schedualed for july, um, 17th, I think, shrug.

I will be at the 'church on time, the girls will see to that.

we wanted the 4th, so there would be a possibility that I might remember our anniversity in future years, but politics, the place is closed by law, prevented that commonsense notion. :mad:

refer to the movie "My Fair Lady" for the quote.

nye cultoooorne.

Congrats! In July for us, going California for vacation.

why get married in a church with your jacked up beliefs?

Just to piss you off and ruin the sanctity of god and all that happy bullshit.

awwww, we still need a symbolic shotgun bearer, I'll provide the accessories

{it is slated for the 18th :D}

{{my new avitar is the volunteer "Ringbearer"}}

{{{she promised to not melt the ring with her lightning powers ;) }}}

kill them all, man woman and child, saving only the virgin girls for your personal pleasure.

Since when did you convert to islamic faith?

I can't make out that new pic very well

yeah, I even digitally enhanced the lightning bolts coming from her fingertips, to make them slightly visible.

Quote:
Originally Posted by honegod
"kill them all, man woman and child, saving only the virgin girls for your personal pleasure. "


Since when did you convert to islamic faith?

??? that is gods instruction to the chosen people in the promised land.

This is one fucked up thread... but funny.

??? that is gods instruction to the chosen people in the promised land.



Now why do you have to go and say that the OT has anything to do with those of us who follow Him, now?

Just to piss you off and ruin the sanctity of god and all that happy bullshit.

Well that's understandable, from the viewpoint of someone with satan's zeal for defilement of that which the LORD created.

Feel free to post more often, and welcome to the forum. :)

Now why do you have to go and say that the OT has anything to do with those of us who follow Him, now?

Because most Christians, except North American born agains, recognize the OT as part of the bible, and therefore part of the word of god.

It's also the mainstay of Judaism, which rejects the NT and the Son of God. It is He in whom we place our faith and trust. The teachings of Christ are far more urgent than the stories of the OT which existed to prove the unstoppable glory of God. The teachings of the NT exist to show us how to receive His forgiveness, and accept salvation. It also serves as a very direct instruction book for how to live our lives, as believers in whom the Holy Spirit indwells.