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BATMAN 07-05-2007, 03:45 PM A 6-year-old girl who sat on an open drain in a wading pool lost part of her intestinal tract to the drain’s powerful suction, her family said.
Abigail Taylor was injured in the wading pool on June 29, according to her family.
Her father, Scott Taylor, said the suction caused a 2-inch tear in Abigail’s rectum and pulled out much of her small intestine. Doctors had to remove the part of her intestines that remained, according to the family’s lawyer, Bob Bennett.
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Abigail remained in intensive care at Children’s Hospital on Thursday and appeared to be improving, Bennett said.
She was to undergo surgery on Friday, Bennett said. “She’ll receive her nutrition through a port for the rest of her life,” he said.
Bennett said the swimming pool’s drain hole was improperly uncovered. However, the general manager of the club where the pool is located said he didn’t think anything was wrong with the pool. He referred questions to the attorney for the club’s insurance company, who declined to comment.
Several states have passed pool-safety laws after children drowned or were disemboweled by drain suction. North Carolina, for instance, requires pools to have dual drains to diffuse the force of the suction and prevent children from being trapped.
wonner 07-05-2007, 03:47 PM Damn, that sucks ass.
Queen 07-05-2007, 04:12 PM lmao wonner :rolleyes:
and yikes. I'm still terrified of pool drains
cool_as_crap 07-05-2007, 04:39 PM Damn, that sucks ass.
:roll:
FSURedFD 07-05-2007, 07:50 PM I was just joking about this kind of thing today while swimming in my pool as it drained. HOLY SHIT!
czarofzar 07-05-2007, 08:05 PM She should ask jesus for healing. Just like the bleeding woman, huh YZF? Except it is coming out of her asshole. WOOTYEEEAAHHH!
RB240 07-06-2007, 08:31 PM i havent heard one of these stories in about 10 years? maybe more...
wotnartd 07-07-2007, 06:25 AM i havent heard one of these stories in about 10 years? maybe more...
I heard something like this about 8 years ago, when we first got our pool.
Oh well.
Most home pools don't have nearly the drain sucking powerfulness as those big ones do. And if they do, it's been my experience that the drain is at the bottom.
Say No To Pistons 07-07-2007, 09:17 AM Wasn't there a story about a man's p[penis getting sucked into a pool filtration system? They had to call the fire department to break down the filter.
FSURedFD 07-07-2007, 12:13 PM The pool I work at is 820,000 gallons with one big drain in the 8ft deep end. I don't want to know what would happen if you got stuck in it.
Steel 07-07-2007, 02:22 PM this isnt the first time. The people are trying to sue the pool drain cover companies for making inadequate fastening systems for their drain covers. I think it sohuld be the pool owners responsibility to make sure everything is in proper working order before letting people use it.. every day.
2ndGen.Rocket 07-07-2007, 02:33 PM And probably tell your kid not to stick their ass on the drain. That might be helpful too.
I think a little better technology should be used... there is a problem with the equipment if when a child gets near it, it sucks their intestines out through their asshole. I'm all for consumer responsibility... but I see this as being solely on the manufacturer.
Queen 07-07-2007, 02:56 PM I don't.. isn't teaching your kids rules and making sure they follow them a normal thing?
Personally I would assume all drains would be covered with grilles or something to prevent this from happening and wouldn't tell my kids stay 10 feet from the drains or your intestines will be sucked out through your asshole. There's no excuse for these things not to be guarded... even if by 2 inch metal grilles kind of like they put over emergency lights in gyms.
Queen 07-07-2007, 03:07 PM most are, but so what? obviously there's still suction, or the water in the pool wouldn't continue to circulate. kids are still gonna get their hair caught in them and drown. people are still gonna dive in shallow water and break their necks. should we force pool manufacturers to install padded bottoms on all pools?
everything has risks, and the easiest and most effective way to handle them is to teach people how not to be stupid
wotnartd 07-07-2007, 03:30 PM most are, but so what? obviously there's still suction, or the water in the pool wouldn't continue to circulate. kids are still gonna get their hair caught in them and drown. people are still gonna dive in shallow water and break their necks. should we force pool manufacturers to install padded bottoms on all pools?
everything has risks, and the easiest and most effective way to handle them is to teach people how not to be stupid
This ain't no back yard pool, though. Only when the pool is set up to vacuum does it have enough strength to do damage, and I think it could. It's so hard to describe how it works... it would take some bad maintenance, I believe to let something like this happen.
Queen 07-07-2007, 03:38 PM you can place the blame on a chain of people and say that "if so and so had done this" ad infinitum, but the fact is, the girl shouldn't have been sitting on the damn drain in the first place
most are, but so what? obviously there's still suction, or the water in the pool wouldn't continue to circulate. kids are still gonna get their hair caught in them and drown. people are still gonna dive in shallow water and break their necks. should we force pool manufacturers to install padded bottoms on all pools?
everything has risks, and the easiest and most effective way to handle them is to teach people how not to be stupid
There's no easy solution to the two you've mentioned... Floating by a drain and having your intestines sucked out is a bit different. ALL drains should have grilles...
I know that if I dive into shallow water that it may break something.
I know that if I have long hair it will get caught in anything that's moving.
I would never expect a pool drain to have that much power... it's fucking ridiculous for something with that much force to not be guarded... it's complete negligence on the pool manufactuers and/or pool maintenance part and I hope the living shit is sued out of them.
Queen 07-07-2007, 03:43 PM well, generally you could assume that when a drain is 10 ft underwater, people aren't going to go down there and stick their asses on it. I don't know where the drain was that this girl sat on, though
this shit has happened enough times in the past that people should know to stay the fuck away from those things
well, generally you could assume that when a drain is 10 ft underwater, people aren't going to go down there and stick their asses on it. I don't know where the drain was that this girl sat on, though
this shit has happened enough times in the past that people should know to stay the fuck away from those things
I've never heard of it happening before and I'm shocked that some type of guard isn't required on something with that much suction. I don't think it's physically possible, in regards to strength, for a small girl like that to get her ass to the bottom of 8 ft of water.
We are talking about children here too. We can tell children not to swallow pills, that they think are candy, but we take precautions such as storing pills high and having child proof caps to prevent this from happening. They don't understand/believe consequences that severe.
RB240 07-07-2007, 05:16 PM this isnt the first time. The people are trying to sue the pool drain cover companies for making inadequate fastening systems for their drain covers. I think it sohuld be the pool owners responsibility to make sure everything is in proper working order before letting people use it.. every day.
do you think its really worth getting your ass sucked outt just to sue.
Supper 07-07-2007, 05:33 PM I've never heard of it happening before and I'm shocked that some type of guard isn't required on something with that much suction.I've heard of this happening before, and as for "that much suction" newer pools (from what I know) are supposed to have safety cutoff switches so if there is blockage they stop pumping until the blockage is removed then they start pumping again.
I don't think it's physically possible, in regards to strength, for a small girl like that to get her ass to the bottom of 8 ft of water.you ever take swimming lessons before? The girls where usually the better ones at an earlier age for reaching the bottom of the pool. Most of us started swimming around here around 4 or 5, by 7 years old 95% of the people could reach the pool very easily.
Supper 07-07-2007, 05:39 PM that's the best solution I suppose, but it may not be fast enough
those things are damned sensitive, down to something like 1PSI resolution. The problem is if they are set like that anything can set em off. Think about how many hundreds of suction it would take to rip the guts out of someone...
edit: this is from experience with industrial pumps, no idea what consumer grade pumps would be capable of.
Queen 07-07-2007, 06:10 PM We are talking about children here too. We can tell children not to swallow pills, that they think are candy, but we take precautions such as storing pills high and having child proof caps to prevent this from happening. They don't understand/believe consequences that severe.
bullshit
"a girl got her hair caught in one and drowned" was enough to keep me away from those things for life
Steel 07-08-2007, 03:31 AM it's more flow that causes the sensation of power
perfect vacuum is -14.7 psi, most pumps can't get anywhere near that
err, perfect vacuum is 0 psi. Theres no such thing as negative pressure, only zero and up.
Steel 07-08-2007, 11:20 AM Well yes. Coming from the physical background i tend to think of things in absolute, so tings like gauge measure and stuff throws me off, heh.
Anyway, even if that pump was pulling -2 PSI, if that drain was 6 inches across, it would be a force of nearly 30 pounds... all concentrated on one spot, somethings got to go. They generally design those drain cages to be just that, a cage around the drain so that it increases the surface area of low pressure areas so htat even if you dance on it, it wont suck you in and water will still be able to flow.
wotnartd 07-08-2007, 02:18 PM this is what I don't get, why the small intestine? seems like the large intestine would have been pulled out first...I suppose it was drawn through the large intestine which is really strange
regardless, horrifying to even think about it, imagine the pain!
Exactly what I was thinking. No colon or large intestine, just small....
Queen 07-08-2007, 02:23 PM your colon is pretty well attached, and your small intestines are just kind of floating around in there. the colon is also more rigid.. those are the only reasons I can think of
your colon is pretty well attached, and your small intestines are just kind of floating around in there. the colon is also more rigid.. those are the only reasons I can think of
and like a colon, queen is full of shit.
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don't tell anyone =x
Queen 07-08-2007, 02:46 PM Jeopardy: Special Olympics Week
Manntis 07-09-2007, 12:53 AM absolute
I'm talking about gauge pressure, which is how it's generally measured....my boost gauge includes negative (vacuum) pressure, for example
You're talking gauges calibrated to measure atmos as zero. Water != air.
wotnartd 07-09-2007, 04:18 AM those things are damned sensitive, down to something like 1PSI resolution. The problem is if they are set like that anything can set em off. Think about how many hundreds of suction it would take to rip the guts out of someone...
edit: this is from experience with industrial pumps, no idea what consumer grade pumps would be capable of.
I see one of the main problems with pools being the use of heaters; if you shut off the pump and leave the heater on, the water inside it boils, and the heater explodes.
You don't want that. :(
Yes, your child getting their GI tract torn through their asshole is bad, but people would go through heaters like crazy. Pool pressures vary quite a bit on a daily basis. And when the filtration system is plugged up, forget about it.
Pools are a bitch to maintain, even the kind in your own backyard.
BATMAN 03-21-2008, 12:35 PM UMMC Chief of Transplantation Dr. Alan Langas said Abigail is one of the oldest patients he's seen.
"Most of our patients are certainly less than 2 years of age and often less than 1 year of age," Langas said.
Abigail is in serious but stable condition.
A 6-year-old girl who underwent a rare transplant surgery after her intestines were sucked out in a swimming pool has died in an Omaha hospital.
Abigail Taylor's family said she died Thursday evening. Bob Bennett is an attorney for the Taylor family. He said Abigail's parents were with her when she died at Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha.
NMC's Paul Baltes confirmed to KETV NewsWatch 7 that Abigail died at the hospital, where she has been under care since the operation. Baltes was not sure whether an autopsy or exact cause of death would be sought or released to the public.
Abigail was injured when she sat on a pool drain, and its powerful suction ripped out part of her intestinal tract on June 29. She underwent transplant surgery in December at the Nebraska hospital to receive a new small bowel, liver and pancreas.
University of Nebraska Medical Center Chief of Transplantation Dr. Alan Langas said in December that Abigail was one of the oldest patients he's seen to receive such a transplant. The girl's father said she was "in and out of it" after the transplant.
After the injury, Abigail had to get her nourishment through an intravenous tube. If successful, the transplant should have allowed her to eat just like any other kid.
She later suffered setbacks, including a cancerous condition sometimes triggered by organ transplants.
In 2006, there were 96 pediatric small bowel transplants performed at 16 medical centers in the United States, according to UNMC. The busiest program was Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami, performing 22 and the second busiest program was The Nebraska Medical Center, performing 14. The Nebraska Medical Center has performed about 4,800 solid organ transplants since the transplant program started in 1985.
The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported in November that Taylor's family filed suit against the pool manufacturer and the Minneapolis Golf Club.
"The suit blamed both the club, located in St. Louis Park, Minn, and Sta-Rite Industries, a pool equipment manufacturer owned by a Golden Valley company, for the accident, in which 21 feet of Abigail Taylor's small intestine were sucked out when she landed on an uncovered suction outlet in the kiddie pool in June," the paper reported.
In December, President George W. Bush signed The Virginia Graeme Baker Pool and Spa Safety Act of 2007, according to SafeKids.net. The legislation provides incentives for states to adopt comprehensive pool safety laws that will protect children from life-threatening injuries and deaths from potentially dangerous pool and spa drains.
msuzuki126 03-21-2008, 05:49 PM that's crazy
Eatmyclutch 03-21-2008, 08:31 PM Wait, wait. I don't understand how shit like this happens.
Anyway, I guess she has no chance of having buttsex in the future.
wotnartd 03-21-2008, 09:14 PM Wait, wait. I don't understand how shit like this happens.
Anyway, I guess she has no chance of having buttsex in the future.
Since she died... no.
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