It's something I've been struggling to understand with my life as of late. Sure, good job but I'm currently getting scolded for work ethic (which I admit, I haven't been working as hard as I should of at my game, but part of that is the new field/learning too. Another issue is that I don't follow-up with people's e-mails and calls promptly. I get work from someone, I file it to get worked on because like 5 other people need shit too, and I respond when I do it. That's gotta change.)

Need about one more year of serious work to get my web design cert and then decide on what to do with it from there or wipe the slate clean and go into auto mechanics/Engineering or potentially game design. Wondering if not finishing it now so I can simply rest after work is a good idea or not currently, plus I have the job to worry about since I'm practically on-call 24/7 as a temp worker. Gotta get bills paid too, so adding onto it might not be the best of ideas.

And then it hits me. What the fuck am I doing with my life? Where am I going with all this? Do I even care about this job? And should I be doing something else? I've never really had any strong interests outside of music (DJing), technology (Computer guy, but more senior user then professional), and art (used to be an illustrator, but I felt myself die with it after HS. ), and even those I can't really see myself taking a full career into. And when I think long and hard about it, being a college dropout who's worked just about all his teens to current I really feel like I'm just shuffling my feet again to a beat I get tired of repeating.

I've currently been reading some self-help materials, as you know. Not only with attraction, but also spiritual finding. I think I've come to an understanding of God and how we are all related to him, but that's an entirely different convo. See = http://www.amazon.com/Mans-Eternal-Quest-Paramahansa-Yogananda/dp/0876122314 for details.

I think of the military, but I know I'd come back changed in all the wrong ways. Peace Corps, but I'm an evil bastard who would probably just use that op to hit on foreign women. Job Corps, but I'm like WTF can they really offer? That's for drugged out kids and serfs. lol

Have any of you ever just felt like you were desperately in search of a pause button to sort yourself out?

Yep. That's called growing up, my friend.

Look at me, for example: 35 years old, two kids, and I work as a Medical Technologist. Money is good, the hours at my job are decent... And if I run one more fucking lab test, I'm going to go on a multi-state shooting spree. It's a means, not an end.

Same thing with what you're doing. You're paying the bills, and you're working on advancing yourself. You just need to figure out what you're advancing yourself towards. Unfortunately, that only comes with time.

wait till you get 44 and you realize that any chances of being a business whiz kid have escaped out the window.......and that time you were gonna land the super model.....ain't gonna happen......what about getting that mansion....naw that ain't gonna happen either...

How 'bout settling for a house in a city and an old car to "fix on" during the weekends

quarter life crisis.

Yeah, I know it's just a matter of time, but I'm just finding it a constant reminder of this huge gap in my life that I have yet to fill in my life and I admittedly have a bit of self-doubt and conscience towards it all.

Ultimately, I suppose I just want to make sure I make the right moves in my life. But I don't really know which ones to make, other then "make more money".

quarter life crisis.

lol, is it very common or am I just being a bitch about it all?

supper common, man. At least amongst lots of people I know from about the 23-25 mark.

I had a little flip out about a year and a half ago myself.

Just keep making decisions and moving in the direction that seems most like forward to you at the time.

All kidding aside DAK

Kids.....Kids are your purpose. Ask anyone that has them. Raising Children is the most rewarding thing you do in life.

All kidding aside DAK

Kids.....Kids are your purpose. Ask anyone that has them. Raising Children is the most rewarding thing you do in life.


Dooooont listen to this guy.

Not only is he old, but he doesnt even have a mansion.

Not only is he old,
True

but he doesnt even have a mansion.

and true

Raising Children is the most rewarding thing you do in life.
I forgot to add, "Fulfilling"

Honestly, remember that old idea that you should do what you love and you'll always be happy?

Yeah, that's bullshit. You do what you can deal with, and enjoy the fruits of your labor. I don't particularly enjoy what I do all that much, it's not like I'm throwing a party over it. In a couple years though, I won't have a boss to report to, won't have an office to report to, will be making my own hours, and making even more money. Is the shit I'll be doing interesting? Not really in the least bit. However, I'll have lots of time to myself, and lots of disposable income to do all of the things I want to do.

I wouldn't focus so much on finding that rewarding career that you think will make you happy. You know what makes me happy? Modding cars, fishing, playing instruments, and drinking beers on the beach. I'm not going to be a mechanic, and no one is going to pay me to fish, jam out, or drink. So, I put up with something that isn't terribly exciting or entertaining because the pay checks are good. In the meantime, enjoy what you've got and have as much fun as you can.

Happiness is all about the little things man. Having a good beer, meeting a cool girl, driving down a badass road, eating a good meal. There is no eternal key to being happy all the time. Even when you've got the things you want, you still want more, and you still feel the same.

^seconded. Also, it doesn't hurt if you can learn to take a little enjoyment from working hard. I used to hate working, but having done tons of it over the last 3 years, I've come to feel very satisfied when I work hard at something. I went through what you're going through last year. I had no fucking clue, couldn't decide on a career, etc. I bascially just decided that, because I'm insanely curious and have to learn everything, school was a good choice, and having jumped back in to it, what I should be doing has become obvious. So ya, do what you like, work hard at what you have, and it'll come. Just be patient and keep your head up

Have any of you ever just felt like you were desperately in search of a pause button to sort yourself out?Yup, sure did!! I felt like I was just going through he motions to get the bills paid, but that my life had no direction. There were so many things I wanted to do but always said, "I'll do it later,,," Next thing I knew I was in my late 30's and hadn't done a damned thing!!!

That's when I went back to school,,, just graduated last Thursday!! Whoo Hoo!! And now I'm working a job that I love, make six-times the money I used to and can look back over my shoulder as I drive away and feel like I am a part of something good in life. I wish I had done it sooner, but it's NEVER too late!!

Take a moment and reflect on what you need to do to give your life direction,,, what you need to do to make you feel like you are a part of something good,,,

We all need goals or else we're just a leaf floating along the river of life,,, Watch out for that waterfall!!

wait till you get 44 and you realize that any chances of being a business whiz kid have escaped out the window.......and that time you were gonna land the super model.....ain't gonna happen......what about getting that mansion....naw that ain't gonna happen either...

How 'bout settling for a house in a city and an old car to "fix on" during the weekends

Now that's just morbid.

I tried to join the Peace Corps, but it turns out they have a year plus waiting list. After my two month trip around the US, and a month stay at my parents (installing hardwood floors), I might go and spend a couple months or more doing hurricane relief work in Mississippi. My job really doesn't make me happy at all, but it makes me money.

fuck yeah, i know exactly what you're fuckign talking about.

Been on this shit-streak for about 6 months now, i'm ready for it to end any day now.

Bought my house mid-january, that was nice. A week or two after I get these notices in the mail saying my house is being foreclosed on... :wtf:

Turns out my sellers title co missed a lien, and between the timing of my closing and their foreclosing, the shit just happened to land in my lap. Fight that for 5 months or so...

Finally got that taken care of last tuesday.

Wednesday evening I come home to find a letter from this wonderfuckingful state of colorado... they're auditing my 07 taxes.

Combine that stress with dog's surgery about 6wks ago, truck that had $1200 of repair a month ago... gas prices through the fucking roof, i have no fucking cash anymore.

Fuck.

^^Ha! you know I get about $50-$75 dollars a month to spend.....out of all the money I make it all "goes somewhere"

truely sad as fuck.

I havent had a real job in a year and I still scrape more scrill than that.

^^Ha! you know I get about $50-$75 dollars a month to spend.....out of all the money I make it all "goes somewhere"

i know the feeling... we must find this "somewhere" place and put a big gate up to stop our money pouring into it...

i only work part time just yet, some evenings and weekends outside college hours... but i do find it a bind and soul destroying some days... i often wonder how fucking boring is this going to be once i have to do it for a proper living all day and every day...

AFter having a job that I initally thought I would love then turned out I hated, Im now halfway into my ME bachelor degree. Sure ME isnt the most terribly exciting field, but it interests me enough and will pay me enough that I'm willing to put the ass and brain busting work into it to get it done.

Also, in about 6 more weeks I'm going to move across the country. That's usually pretty life changing. Could be for the worse, but I have the feeling in my bones it'll be for the better. Much better. So keep your chin up bro. Stuff has a tendancy of turning around, if you're willing to put the work in it.

Well, update on the work situation...

I've been talked to by three of my sups so far about my progress here, and at least they're looking at everything constructively (IE: "Get your shit in order, we know you're capable of it"). My faults aren't major, really. I just need to act more like I want to be here. I realized that especially when one of them responded to my question as such: "Yes, you have been meeting our expectations so far... But what I'd like to know is if we and this job have been meeting your expectations...". That took me awhile to respond, honestly... lol, never had such a question pushed back at me like that before.

I'm still feeling a bit lost overall, but I do thank everyone who's chimed in on this thread so far. I figure if I just follow your words of advice, I'll eventually come to find what I'm looking for in time. Just have to go hard on everything I do and have pride in my work for the time being. You can't find happiness in the things you do if you don't make them important, after all.

Second most important thing to remember is that you're not the only one going through shit, I see... lol

All kidding aside DAK

Kids.....Kids are your purpose. Ask anyone that has them. Raising Children is the most rewarding thing you do in life.

Touching base on this, I can sorta see that but alas I have a subconscious fear of permanent commitment with the opposite sex... Nothing I've done, mind you. It's just that being a product of a single parent household with no father figure, I kinda get worried about if somehow I'd end up treating my kids the same way.

Of course I wouldn't plan to. But I guess I fear becoming the man my father was in his youth, even though I have a pretty bold outline in my mind on who I already am and want to be in contrast.

And then it hits me. What the fuck am I doing with my life? Where am I going with all this? Do I even care about this job? And should I be doing something else? I've never really had any strong interests outside of music (DJing), technology (Computer guy, but more senior user then professional), and art (used to be an illustrator, but I felt myself die with it after HS. ), and even those I can't really see myself taking a full career into. And when I think long and hard about it, being a college dropout who's worked just about all his teens to current I really feel like I'm just shuffling my feet again to a beat I get tired of repeating.


1/4 life crisis chiming in here....

I've asked myself the same questions and the best thing that I can think of for liking my job and why I'm doing it is because it pays the mother fucking bills :sad: Like Peter in Office Space, I try to do just enough to not get fired. Aside from that, the job also pays me enough for me to enjoy what I want to do out side of work. But in the end I'm still broke and an empty soul :alcohol:


I'm still feeling a bit lost overall,

then you've been playing this game for too long
http://z.about.com/d/boardgames/1/0/Q/b/lost_02.jpg

Like Peter in Office Space, I try to do just enough to not get fired.

You and 90% of people.

I know I'm new, but having just went thru this myself thought I would speak up. I've tried all of it, got tired of it, and started from scratch. Sometimes we all need to step back to get perspective on what WE think is important in our lives, is it doing what you love, is it having kids, is it the white picket fence package... Thats something only you can decide. Not much help I know but it is what I have learned so far. Good luck! Mojo2

The more I think about it... Tyler Durden minus the whole mass-mischief thing sounds good.

I'm already fucking crazy.

The more I think about it... Tyler Durden minus the whole mass-mischief thing sounds good.

I'm already fucking crazy.

True, I could see you fitting into the role quite well. Hell, even keeping the mass-mischief just on the online gaming world would be enough, yeah? :bigthumb:

True, I could see you fitting into the role quite well. Hell, even keeping the mass-mischief just on the online gaming world would be enough, yeah? :bigthumb:

The main deterrent against mass-mischief is going to jail. Unless you're prepared to take on that entire system, you might not want to cross it. :)

You're in web-design right? You know, guys like you and me, we'll spend most of our lives working or resting to go to work. You probably work 40 hours, sleep 40, and commute 10 a week. You're up an hour before work getting ready/eating, and an hour afterwards eating, or doing laundry and all of the other bullshit we have to do. So what, you get your 2 days a week, to do whatever you want in the single city you're bound to staying close by because Monday is always on the horizon. We'll never see 10% of the world, we'll never spend all of the time that we could with people that matter to us when we encounter them, and we'll restrain ourselves from living to the fullest because our career stability is always in question. In the end, we've done nothing but survive and spend our lives to buy shit that society has conditioned us to believe that we need. We'll have a decent house, a couple of cars, and a few stories to tell. Then we die. All the while we give our entire lives to these companies, ultimately, some rich guy, somewhere, is getting richer. If you give 100% instead of 50%, that just means they have to hire one less person in your department, which means they pocket the "saved" revenue at the end of the year. Sure, you can be that rich guy if you nearly kill yourself to get there, but then the government is going to cut your throat.

Pretty much, we're screwed to living a "normal" life. We're wasting away and not doing shit. If you're at work now, leave early. Go get in your car, put in a RATM cd, let out one loud ass yell at the top of your lungs, make some faces at elderly people and children on the way home. When you get home, take a piss out in the open. Go break something. Find something in your house that you hate and toss that bitch out.

How farfetched does that sound? Not really if you think about it... that's the irony. You won't do it though, you can't. We're all bigger slaves to society than africans ever were.

I haven't touched a computer game in a 2 or 3 years even maybe. Been a long time, I haven't played any regularly since I was like 16 or so. I miss the making nerds go psychotic thing, but sex, drugs, & rock n roll are more important.

The main deterrent against mass-mischief is going to jail. Unless you're prepared to take on that entire system, you might not want to cross it. :)

You're in web-design right? You know, guys like you and me, we'll spend most of our lives working or resting to go to work. You probably work 40 hours, sleep 40, and commute 10 a week. You're up an hour before work getting ready/eating, and an hour afterwards eating, or doing laundry and all of the other bullshit we have to do. So what, you get your 2 days a week, to do whatever you want in the single city you're bound to staying close by because Monday is always on the horizon. We'll never see 10% of the world, we'll never spend all of the time that we could with people that matter to us when we encounter them, and we'll restrain ourselves from living to the fullest because our career stability is always in question. In the end, we've done nothing but survive and spend our lives to buy shit that society has conditioned us to believe that we need. We'll have a decent house, a couple of cars, and a few stories to tell. Then we die. All the while we give our entire lives to these companies, ultimately, some rich guy, somewhere, is getting richer. If you give 100% instead of 50%, that just means they have to hire one less person in your department, which means they pocket the "saved" revenue at the end of the year. Sure, you can be that rich guy if you nearly kill yourself to get there, but then the government is going to cut your throat.

Pretty much, we're screwed to living a "normal" life. We're wasting away and not doing shit. If you're at work now, leave early. Go get in your car, put in a RATM cd, let out one loud ass yell at the top of your lungs, make some faces at elderly people and children on the way home. When you get home, take a piss out in the open. Go break something. Find something in your house that you hate and toss that bitch out.

How farfetched does that sound? Not really if you think about it... that's the irony. You won't do it though, you can't. We're all bigger slaves to society than africans ever were.

Damn, Z. That's pretty deep...

Harsh, but deep.

sit down and read Ecclesiastes sometime...everything in this life, aside from the pursuit of God, is complete and utter futility, a chasing after the wind

I also recommend John MacArthur's message "Your Best Life Now? or Later?"...a brilliant rebuttal to Osteen's fluff

I'll get right on that chief.

sit down and read Ecclesiastes sometime...everything in this life, aside from the pursuit of God, is complete and utter futility, a chasing after the wind

I also recommend John MacArthur's message "Your Best Life Now? or Later?"...a brilliant rebuttal to Osteen's fluff

I'll check it out, but this is along the same lines as what Paramahansa Yogananda says in his book "Man's Eternal Quest"

Yogananda said, "Mankind is engaged in an eternal quest for that 'something else' he hopes will bring him happiness, complete and unending. For those individual souls who have sought and found God, the search is over: He is that Something Else."

DAK... I think that you need to punch someone in the face, someone that will probably beat your ass, a random person, not someone you know. Just relentlessly attack them, giving it all you've got.

DAK... I think that you need to punch someone in the face, someone that will probably beat your ass, a random person, not someone you know. Just relentlessly attack them, giving it all you've got.

Hmmm... I don't think I could bring myself to just clock anyone like that, but I do have a sparring buddy that I know wouldn't have any qualms about trying to kick my ass. Maybe I should give him a call for a match.

Dead serious about this too. :bigthumb:

Then you take the thrill, the rebellion, the not-doing-what-you're-supposed-to-do out of it... then it's jsut boring!

Smoke a cigarette today too, when you go to put it out, throw it at someones chest and give them a "fuck you, i dare you" look.

Then you take the thrill, the rebellion, the not-doing-what-you're-supposed-to-do out of it... then it's jsut boring!

Smoke a cigarette today too, when you go to put it out, throw it at someones chest and give them a "fuck you, i dare you" look.

I did buy a pack of Black and Milds yesterday just because I was tired of caring. I usually don't smoke (anything that's not green), but I made it a point to enjoy one yesterday and this morning on the way to work. Do have to say it did make me feel a bit better.

Eh...

I'll just say this, your life isn't what will come. Your life is what you do every day on your way to what will come. There is nothing worse then looking back and realizing all that time you spent hoping for "your life to begin" that it was rushing past you in a headlong tumble towards the grave.

I did buy a pack of Black and Milds yesterday just because I was tired of caring. I usually don't smoke (anything that's not green), but I made it a point to enjoy one yesterday and this morning on the way to work. Do have to say it did make me feel a bit better.

Here's what I've been thinking lately. We've all been fed the idea that the ideal life for us is spending our time working our asses off so that we can one day get married to someone that we can tolerate being with, have kids that are a huge financial drain, a house with a white picket fence and a couple of dogs. This is what "normal" is right? This is what we're supposed to do? This is what makes us inferior if we don't, right?

I say fuck that. You aren't supposed to smoke, you aren't supposed to drink, you aren't supposed to do anything because it may take time off of your life. What's more important? The time spent alive, or the value of the time that you get. Who's to say crack-addicts don't have the right idea? They may life 10 years high off of their ass and get more out of life than the sucker that worked 60 years and ended up old, with nothing but enough to maintain jsut being alive until he dies.

What do you enjoy more than anything DAK? Toss your concious out, because your concious has probably been formed by other peoples influences, and not what you have decided is "okay." Our concious is most often formed by people that can influence us, manipulating us to secure our well-being and us being around, because they get something out of it. What do you truly enjoy? What thrills you? What makes you feel alive? Being a corporate zombie isn't working out.

BREAK THE FUCKING MOLD DAK, BREAK THE FUCKING MOLD. :)


But then again... you meet Miss Doe and you get emotionally attached. You want to be that guy with the white picket fence and a chocolate lab whose sidekick is some sort of yelping ass terrier. Why? Because that's the easiest way to secure that person being with you, "forever." That's where the "She saved my life", "She makes me want to be better", thing comes from. How many times have you been emotionally attached to a girl? And how many have stuck around?

And as far as family and friends. HA. Your family "cares" about you because they're supposed to, because it's become normal to them after so many years. Friends? How many of your friends are you just friends with because there's a mutual advantage to you being friends? You can offer them a service, they can offer you a service, you trade services. Or maybe you don't like being alone, and said friend doesnt, so it's of an advantage to be friends so you can do things together.

How bad would it freak you out if you really sat down, looked at your life andthe world subjectively, and realized that most everything is a lie and completely fake?

BREAK THE FUCKING MOLD DAK, BREAK THE FUCKING MOLD. :)

You're in that mold too. Hey, around here, your mold is probably more common then the kind you're complaining about.

If DAK does what you say, he knows that he'll just be stuck in another mold, but this time he'll just be a pompous self-centered jerk.

You're in that mold too. Hey, around here, your mold is probably more common then the kind you're complaining about.

If DAK does what you say, he knows that he'll just be stuck in another mold, but this time he'll just be a pompous self-centered jerk.

I'm not in any mold chief. I highly doubt you know enough about me to determine that, nor have I given you enough information to determine that. When I say "we", or "I" in this thread, I'm simply showing that I do/have related to how he feels to an extent.

I haven't been converted to a corporate whore, I can give results without the whole show. I'm not a destroy all, give-up on life coward either. I can't slip into any mold, because they don't make them big enough for me. :)

What do you enjoy more than anything DAK? Toss your concious out, because your concious has probably been formed by other peoples influences, and not what you have decided is "okay." Our concious is most often formed by people that can influence us, manipulating us to secure our well-being and us being around, because they get something out of it. What do you truly enjoy? What thrills you? What makes you feel alive? Being a corporate zombie isn't working out.

BREAK THE FUCKING MOLD DAK, BREAK THE FUCKING MOLD. :)


But then again... you meet Miss Doe and you get emotionally attached. You want to be that guy with the white picket fence and a chocolate lab whose sidekick is some sort of yelping ass terrier. Why? Because that's the easiest way to secure that person being with you, "forever." That's where the "She saved my life", "She makes me want to be better", thing comes from. How many times have you been emotionally attached to a girl? And how many have stuck around?

And as far as family and friends. HA. Your family "cares" about you because they're supposed to, because it's become normal to them after so many years. Friends? How many of your friends are you just friends with because there's a mutual advantage to you being friends? You can offer them a service, they can offer you a service, you trade services. Or maybe you don't like being alone, and said friend doesnt, so it's of an advantage to be friends so you can do things together.

How bad would it freak you out if you really sat down, looked at your life andthe world subjectively, and realized that most everything is a lie and completely fake?

Not too badly, since I already realize this to an extent. But I do see your point quite clearly.

Hrm, definitely an abstract thought to remember.

This could all be a test as well.

Or, think about this:

We don't experience the best of pleasure without experiencing pain. For example, the ability to walk around to you isn't really pleasurable. You take it for granted, and think nothing of it. However, picture yourself as being in a wheel chair with doctors telling you that you'll never walk again. A miracle occurs, and you gain full functionality of your legs again. Now, walking is extremely pleasurable to you because you have been on pain side of the spectrum. Perhaps the same is true for emotional pain, that without experiencing the pain, we can't experience the same degree/extreme on the other side of the spectrum, the pleasure.

If you were given a choice to either,
A: Never really feel too much emotional pain, but stay pretty constant in life, and be level at all times, or
B: Go through emotional pain such as you are at a young age, but experience extreme emotional pleasure later in life which couldn't have been obtained without going through the pain.

Which would you pick?

Punching someone, or telling someone to go fuck themselves to their face brings out a really strange feeling, but it is a good one. It's something that guys don't feel very often anymore, because we are busy sending emails and buying hair gel.

As much as I hate to agree, Fight Club was dead on. The lives that we lead now ultimately won't provide total satisfaction or happiness. Having nice shit is cool, but in the end all you've got is nice shit. You hope that you enjoy your time alive, but it seems that there are ways you could enjoy it more. I'd like to walk across the country and camp out in the woods every night. I'll never do it though. I'd like to go to Eastern Europe and spend a night doing a bunch of drugs with hot euro chicks. I'll probably never do that either.

This thread reminds me of Philosophy 101 IMO.

Punching someone, or telling someone to go fuck themselves to their face brings out a really strange feeling, but it is a good one. It's something that guys don't feel very often anymore, because we are busy sending emails and buying hair gel.
It's an adrenaline rush / power trip from heaven above. Feels great.

As much as I hate to agree, Fight Club was dead on. The lives that we lead now ultimately won't provide total satisfaction or happiness. Having nice shit is cool, but in the end all you've got is nice shit. You hope that you enjoy your time alive, but it seems that there are ways you could enjoy it more. I'd like to walk across the country and camp out in the woods every night. I'll never do it though. I'd like to go to Eastern Europe and spend a night doing a bunch of drugs with hot euro chicks. I'll probably never do that either.

I figured you'd be the exact opposite on this considering you're baller status. The reassurance from someone in your position actually does mean something. You made it known that you're dropping $150k a year. Face the facts, that's about double what anyone else on here is making. There's some people that's going to cry over this, because they measure their own worth by their paycheck. I'm not saying you're like the following, you're younger than most, but I work closely with people that are making the same, I eat lunch with them, and I walk around the office in shorts and flip flops. Everytime a new person comes, they're shocked by it. The dress code is pretty much relaxed, but one day I decided I wanted to wear shorts and flip flops, I did it, no one said shit, & I've done it 100 times since then. It doesn't affect my performance. Anyway, the filthy rich guys are some of the most trapped, ball-less guys there are. I mean really, lots of them have sold everything about them that made them who they are, so that they could fit a mold and have a really nice house. Vacations? They're married to their jobs. The biggest vacation they get is business trips. They've most of the time been married multiple times and have shitty baggage that has comes along with that.

One guy came down the other day, and asked how my weekend was... the jokingly told other people "I always find out his weekend stories, because you never know what's going to happen." I don't ever want to trade that excitement and living in for a boring life of doing yardwork on weekends. On the other side of this, there's people busting their ass 60 hours a week for $10 an hour to barely just get by. Where is the happy medium? Both sides seem really suck-ass to me. You get money, but along with that comes incredible responsibility usually. With care-free responsibilities, you don't get money.

If there comes a point where I have to choose money over being who the fuck I am, it isn't even a decision. I may not ever drive a ferrari, live in a $500k house, or ever understand why you need 10 forks to eat a meal... but, I will look back and say that I was myself. I was real. I experienced some great things, and I hope that I never sell-out. I didn't treat people any differently, regardless of their wealth. I didn't let people push me around. I didn't blindly-follow. I possessed integrity, I lived for the truth, and had a ton of fun along the way.

I just skimmed this... and it's pretty random and doesn't flow well. Fuck it. :)

I just skimmed this... and it's pretty random and doesn't flow well. Fuck it. :)

I actually agree with most of it. I'm not one of the guys making 150k or one of the guys working 60 hours at 10 bucks an hour, but I am closer to the latter. It sucks, but I have a very easy job. I'm generally pretty happy with enough cash to have some fun, but always wonder what more would be like/how it would help. But Mo' Money, Mo' Problems. There isn't shit as far as decent jobs go around here anyway and housing in the area; fucking forget about it.

There is a lot of mind wrestling that goes on once you start hitting those certain areas. For a while I thought that yeah, making more and more money is probably the best thing ever. It's cool, but once you get over the initial excitement of buying a new car or something, you're just sitting there with a new car. It's not like you are getting free handjobs every day, or you reach some enlightened status, you basically just have more money and less time.

The bank forced a Blackberry on me a couple weeks ago. They actually presented it as "Hey, check out this cool ass new PDA we are going to give you!". I didn't want it, and told them I didn't want it, I don't want to be accessible 24 hours a day. I didn't have a choice however, so now I'm stuck with this stupid ass thing that gets emails at 11pm.

My hope is to be here, bust my ass, and retire in 25 years to do whatever the hell I want to do. But yes, a lot of people I know with lots of money are dickless, soulless losers who enjoy lame shit and have no personality. I have many friends here in the same boat as me too though, they have fun and bought their cool shit, but now they are saying "What now?". That's the big question, what now?

My what now was getting this new DD, and then finding my Porsche later in the year. You know what? That's not going to make me truly happy. It will be cool, but that will wear off quickly. All I will have is another car sitting outside, something to invite compliments from other dickless idiots who aren't as far along on their "what now" list.

There is a lot of mind wrestling that goes on once you start hitting those certain areas. For a while I thought that yeah, making more and more money is probably the best thing ever. It's cool, but once you get over the initial excitement of buying a new car or something, you're just sitting there with a new car. It's not like you are getting free handjobs every day, or you reach some enlightened status, you basically just have more money and less time.

The bank forced a Blackberry on me a couple weeks ago. They actually presented it as "Hey, check out this cool ass new PDA we are going to give you!". I didn't want it, and told them I didn't want it, I don't want to be accessible 24 hours a day. I didn't have a choice however, so now I'm stuck with this stupid ass thing that gets emails at 11pm.

My hope is to be here, bust my ass, and retire in 25 years to do whatever the hell I want to do. But yes, a lot of people I know with lots of money are dickless, soulless losers who enjoy lame shit and have no personality. I have many friends here in the same boat as me too though, they have fun and bought their cool shit, but now they are saying "What now?". That's the big question, what now?

My what now was getting this new DD, and then finding my Porsche later in the year. You know what? That's not going to make me truly happy. It will be cool, but that will wear off quickly. All I will have is another car sitting outside, something to invite compliments from other dickless idiots who aren't as far along on their "what now" list.

Yo. When my job said they were giving laptops to everyone, everyone was happy as fuck; except me. I knew that if shit goes down at 2 AM in the morning, you would be expected to fix it. Sure enough, I was right.

This thread reminds me of Philosophy 101 IMO.

True, but I think this thread actually managed to turn into an essential read.

I know it's helped my mindset immensely since I first posted.

True, but I think this thread actually managed to turn into an essential read.

I know it's helped my mindset immensely since I first posted.

I certainly agree. It started off as a new thread and I read it and was like "meh", but now it's become a pretty good read.

2gr, you're much different than I thought. I always thought of you as the soulless, dickless bastards you speak of. I'm not much on porches for the simple fact that every pseudo-somebody has a boxster. I'm sure you'd get something that wasn't a squashed vw bug, but still, the name has been tainted by douches, just like honda's name has been tainted by douches. As far as cars bringing happiness, driving fast and feeling torque does make me happy. Having people say "nice car" doesn't do shit for me. As far as retiring in 25 years, you'll be 50. How much health, and how much can you really do at 50? We can practice good health habits, but face it, at 50, you're not going to have the energy and life about you that you do now. I once knew this guy, that had an interesting approach to this. He was in his 60s, and told me he had the time of his life. He ran away from WA state to FL at the age of 15, and spend the next 35 years playing in bands, doing drugs, fucking whores, and apparently judging by his liver shape, drinking a lot. But anyway, he said that why work your entire life to have a little freedom when you're old and can't really enjoy it? He said that he decided he wanted to live while he could enjoy it, then deal with the typical life when he was old and that's all he could do. Seems far-fetched, but the general idea makes a little sense.

I've got the laptop and blackberry too... Fortunately, the blackberry comes with unlimited data... so anywhere I'm at, I can get on the interent on the company's buck. I've used the shit out of it too. In my field, it's expected to have off-hour calls, it's part of the game. However, I get very little, as most of the things I control are self-automated. The database side is where most users seem to screw up, something I've isolated myself from.


So you know, we have 4 people here who have argued their asses off with one another that all feel the same way for the most part about something very important. If we feel this way, I'd have to assume the general population would too if they put a little thought into it.

So you know, we have 4 people here who have argued their asses off with one another that all feel the same way for the most part about something very important. If we feel this way, I'd have to assume the general population would too if they put a little thought into it.

Hear hear. Maybe the world would actually be a bit better if they did.

But thanks, guys. I really mean that.

2gr, you're much different than I thought. I always thought of you as the soulless, dickless bastards you speak of. I'm not much on porches for the simple fact that every pseudo-somebody has a boxster. I'm sure you'd get something that wasn't a squashed vw bug, but still, the name has been tainted by douches, just like honda's name has been tainted by douches. As far as cars bringing happiness, driving fast and feeling torque does make me happy. Having people say "nice car" doesn't do shit for me. As far as retiring in 25 years, you'll be 50. How much health, and how much can you really do at 50? We can practice good health habits, but face it, at 50, you're not going to have the energy and life about you that you do now. I once knew this guy, that had an interesting approach to this. He was in his 60s, and told me he had the time of his life. He ran away from WA state to FL at the age of 15, and spend the next 35 years playing in bands, doing drugs, fucking whores, and apparently judging by his liver shape, drinking a lot. But anyway, he said that why work your entire life to have a little freedom when you're old and can't really enjoy it? He said that he decided he wanted to live while he could enjoy it, then deal with the typical life when he was old and that's all he could do. Seems far-fetched, but the general idea makes a little sense.

I've got the laptop and blackberry too... Fortunately, the blackberry comes with unlimited data... so anywhere I'm at, I can get on the interent on the company's buck. I've used the shit out of it too. In my field, it's expected to have off-hour calls, it's part of the game. However, I get very little, as most of the things I control are self-automated. The database side is where most users seem to screw up, something I've isolated myself from.


So you know, we have 4 people here who have argued their asses off with one another that all feel the same way for the most part about something very important. If we feel this way, I'd have to assume the general population would too if they put a little thought into it.



Yeah, I could well have been. I've been doing a lot of looking around lately, and especially in this area of Atlanta I see a lot of shit that I just can't stand about people, only to realize that I am on the path to becoming exactly that. I don't want to be that. If I ever at any point catch myself wearing a belt phone, or a Bluetooth headset in the gym, or any number of the stupid, pussy, yuppie bullshit acts that I witness everyday, I'll kill myself. I love the city, I like the money, but anyone who thinks that is the best life has to offer has a lot of depression ahead of them.

And I'll be getting a 993 Carrera if I get anything at this point. If I ever caught myself driving a Boxster, I'd also have to kill myself. I did want a Carrera 4S, but I've got a new Audi Quattro now so I have my fill of AWD.

Either way, they will be a lot of fun, but don't ultimately make you happy.

Be thankful you get any of that with your Blackberry. I've got the super strict version which means I can't send or receive texts or use the internet, just receive emails forwards from Outlook, and phone calls. I don't even know what the point was in getting a Blackberry to only use 2 functions on it.

And the only problem I would have with partying my ass off and then working later is, that's like eating your dessert before your dinner. It would be a lot of fun, but at what point do you stop and say "fuck, I need to get a job and get my life together"? And then you've got nothing to look forward to after that, just being miserable.

Yeah, 50 is fucking old, but I think we are all going to live a hell of a lot longer than people are nowadays. I mean, probably easily over 100. I'm in great shape and have nothing at all wrong with me, and don't foresee anything being wrong in the immediate future.

Plus it's not all bad. I have 4 weeks of vacation time now, plus a bunch of sick and personal days. I'm not working like a slave. The new role I will move into within the next couple years will basically allow me to live wherever I want, I won't have an office to report to, I won't have a direct boss, I can work from home, make my own hours, and just get my shit done.

That shit will also be a lot of handshaking, and golfing, and dinner with clients to ensure that we retain their business. It's pretty damn relaxing actually, and is probably my ideal setup for a career. Yeah, I will put up with bullshit for a few hours a day, but then I can go and do whatever the fuck I want.

Hear hear. Maybe the world would actually be a bit better if they did.

But thanks, guys. I really mean that.

Don't stop now. Never stop questioning.


Yeah, I could well have been. I've been doing a lot of looking around lately, and especially in this area of Atlanta I see a lot of shit that I just can't stand about people, only to realize that I am on the path to becoming exactly that. I don't want to be that. If I ever at any point catch myself wearing a belt phone, or a Bluetooth headset in the gym, or any number of the stupid, pussy, yuppie bullshit acts that I witness everyday, I'll kill myself. I love the city, I like the money, but anyone who thinks that is the best life has to offer has a lot of depression ahead of them.
Yup. Agreed 100%, I'm there now, and been there a while. I'd much rather be rockin board shorts on a beach or at the lake than playing golf and sipping martinis. I may become a millionaire somehow tomorrow, but I won't eat with 10 forks and all of that bullshit.

And I'll be getting a 993 Carrera if I get anything at this point. If I ever caught myself driving a Boxster, I'd also have to kill myself. I did want a Carrera 4S, but I've got a new Audi Quattro now so I have my fill of AWD.

Either way, they will be a lot of fun, but don't ultimately make you happy.

Be thankful you get any of that with your Blackberry. I've got the super strict version which means I can't send or receive texts or use the internet, just receive emails forwards from Outlook, and phone calls. I don't even know what the point was in getting a Blackberry to only use 2 functions on it.

I like most all audis better than porsches actually. I think if I get another "fun" car it'll be an LS2 FD. Always loved FD bodies, always loved the LS feel... lots of modifications though, I'd have it at supercar level. I've always wanted a giant diesel excursion too--redneck streak.

As far as the blackberry, I had to tackle that entire project. I built(ordered the parts, not buying directly from HP because the VP said 'i need this in 3 weeks', hp was going to take 30 days just to ship the hardware) the server, implemented it with active directory, and setup BES. Works 100x better than just forwarding from outlook, everythign is synchronized. That may be what you guys have vs simple forwarding. We have sprint, so as long as you're on the EVDO network in large(r) cities, you get about 100KB bandwidth, 20x dial-up. Here, where I'm at, I get 15KB, 3x dial-up. 100,000 people in the city, 250,000 in the county, not sure why myrtle beach has EVDO, BFE southern GA has EVDO, and we don't. It charges the blackberry while you're using the internet too... no drawbacks, I love it. Demand that you get it. We negotiated $35 per line a month, which includes the phone portion and has unlimited data, about 40 blackberries throughout the u.s. I think it's only like $60 a month for unlimited data on a standard customer line... walk in and demand you have that shit. It really isn't even pennies to a company to have it. It's really bad ass if you're traveling. You know as well as I do that hotel internet often completely sucks and isn't worth using.

Cliff's notes to the above: The internet portion is bad ass, make your company give it to you.

Cliff's notes to the above: The internet portion is bad ass, make your company give it to you.

If only SkyDivr could do this with his posts...

Yeah but the internet portion is pretty bad ass.

I like most all audis better than porsches actually. I think if I get another "fun" car it'll be an LS2 FD. Always loved FD bodies, always loved the LS feel... lots of modifications though, I'd have it at supercar level. I've always wanted a giant diesel excursion too--redneck streak.

I absolutely love this car, and am pissed that I never got into them sooner. For a DD, this thing has incredible handling, gets incredible mileage, rides smooth as hell, and has all the luxury items I could ever want. The only place it is lacking is the power department, but that is going to change next month.


As far as the blackberry, I had to tackle that entire project. I built(ordered the parts, not buying directly from HP because the VP said 'i need this in 3 weeks', hp was going to take 30 days just to ship the hardware) the server, implemented it with active directory, and setup BES. Works 100x better than just forwarding from outlook, everythign is synchronized. That may be what you guys have vs simple forwarding. We have sprint, so as long as you're on the EVDO network in large(r) cities, you get about 100KB bandwidth, 20x dial-up. Here, where I'm at, I get 15KB, 3x dial-up. 100,000 people in the city, 250,000 in the county, not sure why myrtle beach has EVDO, BFE southern GA has EVDO, and we don't. It charges the blackberry while you're using the internet too... no drawbacks, I love it. Demand that you get it. We negotiated $35 per line a month, which includes the phone portion and has unlimited data, about 40 blackberries throughout the u.s. I think it's only like $60 a month for unlimited data on a standard customer line... walk in and demand you have that shit. It really isn't even pennies to a company to have it. It's really bad ass if you're traveling. You know as well as I do that hotel internet often completely sucks and isn't worth using.

Cliff's notes to the above: The internet portion is bad ass, make your company give it to you.

I'm not familiar with how the program was implemented, but I actually get along with my IT guy unlike most of the people in my office. I can ask him and if it's possible he will probably hook me up.

If you're using sprint, I've got the sprint mobile broadband file handy, or I can find a link.

What's the IT guy do there? Need a replacement? I hear they pay pretty well. :D

How's Sprint Mobile Broadband speeds? I got Verizon for my Cell and Laptop card and even when I have full reception on the card, it still has pretty crappy transfer speeds IMO.

How's Sprint Mobile Broadband speeds? I got Verizon for my Cell and Laptop card and even when I have full reception on the card, it still has pretty crappy transfer speeds IMO.

on EVDO, 100KBps, 20x faster than 5KBps dial-up.
non-evdo, about 15KBps, 3x faster than 5KBps dial-up.

EVDO is available in most all major cities, and they're working on putting it everywhere. When you're on it, it's pretty manageable... downloading files and such isn't even a headache.

The thing about Sprint, is that while it is good when you can get it, PCS isn't everywhere. Where I live, for example, there is not Sprint service. If there was, I'd be Nextelling like a mofo.

on EVDO, 100KBps, 20x faster than 5KBps dial-up.
non-evdo, about 15KBps, 3x faster than 5KBps dial-up.

EVDO is available in most all major cities, and they're working on putting it everywhere. When you're on it, it's pretty manageable... downloading files and such isn't even a headache.

About the same with Verizon. Why the hell can't you get a 20 Mbps Fios connection throw one of those damn mobile broadband cards. :(

I normally don't mind it, except when I get send a HUGE Excel file that some dumbass fucking project manager forgets to compress.

If you're using sprint, I've got the sprint mobile broadband file handy, or I can find a link.

What's the IT guy do there? Need a replacement? I hear they pay pretty well. :D

We actually use AT&T, the only advantage of that is me getting a discount on my personal cell phone.

And I'm not exactly sure what old Willie does, sets up new computers on the network and fixes problems on all of the other ones I guess. I know he is who I call when I'm having a problem, rather than the Indian people who we contracted to handle all of our problems remotely. Go ahead and send your resume in, I'm sure they've got something open. Overall yes, they do pay pretty well. Although with the additional losses we are likely going to post, they might be cutting some more jobs soon.

Keep religion in religion Mark.

So wireless companies and yzf aside... I think 2gr and I got a bit in depth about what's been on my mind lately... although, I haven't heard DAK say much... what's up??

Do you hate your job Zero? You aren't going to go on a rampage are you?

Do you hate your job Zero? You aren't going to go on a rampage are you?

You either A: haven't read much, B: didn't comprehend.

You either A: haven't read much, B: didn't comprehend.

I obviously haven't.

Countless posts of yours I read about you being unhappy with the job you are doing and stating that money doesn't make you happy. You also went on to discuss "punching people in the face." Rage issues?

But once again, I didn't comprehend or read anything here. :bigthumb:

Nice Mark Strong Pompous Know-It-All attitude though.

I obviously haven't.

Countless posts of yours I read about you being unhappy with the job you are doing and stating that money doesn't make you happy. You also went on to discuss "punching people in the face." Rage issues?

But once again, I didn't comprehend or read anything here. :bigthumb:

Nice Mark Strong Pompous Know-It-All attitude though.

I realize that I'm fighting a battle here, that can't be won. I can't flip some light above your head and make you see things beyond the literal surface. That is who you are vert, you don't see things with any depth, only the surface level.

You haven't read countless posts of mine saying that "I am unhappy with my job." Things were centered around the business world collectively, and my career field moreso than my current job. As far as punching people in the face, you missed the ENTIRE point of all of this. It was never about punching someone versus breaking the mold of typical social habits.

Like I said, you either A: Didn't read it, or B: Didn't comprehend it.

Or D: All of the above.

Where the fuck did C go?

Where the fuck did C go?

Sorry, I guess I wasn't reading it all.

I realize that I'm fighting a battle here, that can't be won. I can't flip some light above your head and make you see things beyond the literal surface. That is who you are vert, you don't see things with any depth, only the surface level.

You haven't read countless posts of mine saying that "I am unhappy with my job." Things were centered around the business world collectively, and my career field moreso than my current job. As far as punching people in the face, you missed the ENTIRE point of all of this. It was never about punching someone versus breaking the mold of typical social habits.

Like I said, you either A: Didn't read it, or B: Didn't comprehend it.

Simply put, let me offer this as a rebuttal:

I did see the entire point of breaking the mold. The entire point of DAK's original post was to more or less question the normal "Ant's Marching" kind of Corporate work mentality.

Now the comment I made about going on a rampage; do you think normal run of the mill guys who accept the "mold" are the ones who go around shooting up an office? Or do you think that generally it is more or less the people who want to break away from that mold?

It was more or less a jestful comment; apparently you didn't see that connotation or any humor in it, and for that I apologize.

Sorry, I guess I wasn't reading it all.

:roll:

I did see the entire point of breaking the mold. The entire point of DAK's original post was to more or less question the normal "Ant's Marching" kind of Corporate work mentality.
:rofl: Did you read this before hitting submit?

Now the comment I made about going on a rampage; do you think normal run of the mill guys who accept the "mold" are the ones who go around shooting up an office? Or do you think that generally it is more or less the people who want to break away from that mold?
Do you think that rage is the same a logical questioning? I'm pretty sure I had a ton of criminal justice people in my philosophy & psychology classes. Of course, I had them in English classes too. :D

It was more or less a jestful comment; apparently you didn't see that connotation or any humor in it, and for that I apologize.
Zero didn't even smile.

I'm laughing at this "epic debate."

Let's look at this real quick...

Previous post by you: "You can't know me from online."

After that, a post by you: "That is who you are vert, you don't see things with any depth, only the surface level."

http://www.chinatraderonline.com/Files/Household/Kitchenware/Pan/Casserole-Pots-and-Dishes-11431660234.jpg

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http://www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50351255/Electric_Kettle.jpg

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http://i26.tinypic.com/19bmvd.jpg

:roll:

ineedcaps
HEY EVERYBODY, THE PICTURE ABOVE IS ME. I AM NOT TRYING TO HIDE THAT ONE BIT, CONSIDERING I AM THE ONE THAT POSTED IT. I MAKE VERT PHYSICALLY INSECURE, AND FOR SOME REASON HE THINKS POSTING MY PICTURE IN EVERY THREAD MAKES ME ANGRY. IT DOESN'T, I AM SECURE WITH MY PHYSICAL APPEARANCE, SO AFTER ABOUT THE 10TH TIME I'VE MADE HIM CRY, I'M PRETTY MUCH TIRED OF SEEING THIS BORING "COMEBACK"

keep dreaming

genetic diseases are on continually on the rise, and the evidence is ubiquitous...we're all just inbred from Adam and inbred again from Noah

modern medicine props us up, yes, and allows some to live longer who would have dropped much sooner...but the undeniable trend is human race is becoming less fit and more unhealthy with time (add to that the processed/synthetic junk most people pour into themselves)...dariwnism is the great hoax of our generation

It's too bad that pretty much every health professional on the planet will disagree with you, and the advances in regenerative medicine are consistently proving my point.



and you're what, late 20s? so what? call me in 20-30 years, the bravado will be gone, you're another spec in the ocean pounding your chest


I'm sure I'll still be in good shape. Sure I'll be getting old and things won't work as well, but that is just getting old. It's not like I'm going to have some crippling disease due to poor health.


what exactly do you do? I hear random bs like this nearly every day btw


I work in banking. Soon I will be in a strictly client facing role, and have an entire territory and portfolio assigned to me. My job is to keep the clients happy and continue using us for loans, acquisitions, etc.

As far as knowing who someone is online is very different from being able to tell that they can't see anything beyond what they WANT a literal interpretation to mean. You don't understand things of any depth, this has been proven time and time again.

Further proof, is that you don't see that, exemplified by the pot/kettle reference.

P.S. find a black one next time, and stop trying to come up with any excuse to post the picture. As you can see, obviously it doesn't bother me. Now, could I continue to post pictures of your goofy ass and bother you? I sure could, because you're insecure, as you should be of someone your size and looks.

So wireless companies and yzf aside... I think 2gr and I got a bit in depth about what's been on my mind lately... although, I haven't heard DAK say much... what's up??

I took a leave of absence once phone networks and all that stuff came up. Life's better, though. I've decided to be more assholish and self-centered (not enough to make me a complete dick, but enough to make a difference) and I'm actually a little happier. :bigthumb:

Also, new personal motto: "Life is to be experienced, not remembered"

I took a leave of absence once phone networks and all that stuff came up. Life's better, though. I've decided to be more assholish and self-centered (not enough to make me a complete dick, but enough to make a difference) and I'm actually a little happier. :bigthumb:

Also, new personal motto: "Life is to be experienced, not remembered"

Assholeish and self-centered... if that's what you consider it, it won't last. Why do you feel that you HAVE or SHOULD be nice to people?

ineedcaps
HEY EVERYBODY, THE PICTURE ABOVE IS ME. I AM NOT TRYING TO HIDE THAT ONE BIT, CONSIDERING I AM THE ONE THAT POSTED IT. I MAKE VERT PHYSICALLY INSECURE, AND FOR SOME REASON HE THINKS POSTING MY PICTURE IN EVERY THREAD MAKES ME ANGRY. IT DOESN'T, I AM SECURE WITH MY PHYSICAL APPEARANCE, SO AFTER ABOUT THE 10TH TIME I'VE MADE HIM CRY, I'M PRETTY MUCH TIRED OF SEEING THIS BORING "COMEBACK"

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

As far as knowing who someone is online is very different from being able to tell that they can't see anything beyond what they WANT a literal interpretation to mean. You don't understand things of any depth, this has been proven time and time again.

Further proof, is that you don't see that, exemplified by the pot/kettle reference.

P.S. find a black one next time, and stop trying to come up with any excuse to post the picture. As you can see, obviously it doesn't bother me. Now, could I continue to post pictures of your goofy ass and bother you? I sure could, because you're insecure, as you should be of someone your size and looks.

Post away buddy.

I was just thinking of a good way to describe it, but I see what you mean.

No worries, though. I'm just trying to focus on what makes me happy in life, and have realized I tend to bend over backwards at times to try and be nice to folks to make them happy to be around me, which very rarely results in being successful for myself. That's stopping right now.

"Might as well call me constipated... couldn't give a shit"

If you are trying to be a dick, that's probably because you aren't a dick. It's not necessarily being an asshole that is a good feeling, moreso just being yourself and not being afraid to tell other assholes just what you think of them. Next time someone is annoying the shit out of you, tell them that you think they are annoying as hell. Next time someone steals your parking spot, park somewhere else and be sure to tell them what a fucking asshole they are. The next time some dude gives you a tough guy shoulder bump in the bar and looks at you like he wants to fight, throw his ass on the ground and put your boot on his neck.

If you are trying to be a dick, that's probably because you aren't a dick. It's not necessarily being an asshole that is a good feeling, moreso just being yourself and not being afraid to tell other assholes just what you think of them. Next time someone is annoying the shit out of you, tell them that you think they are annoying as hell. Next time someone steals your parking spot, park somewhere else and be sure to tell them what a fucking asshole they are. The next time some dude gives you a tough guy shoulder bump in the bar and looks at you like he wants to fight, throw his ass on the ground and put your boot on his neck.

I'm not "trying", per se. If there's any effort involved, it's me trying to keep from falling into my same patterns. It's more just me being myself as you said, rather then the controlled/self-conscious "myself" who thinks something over about a hundred times before saying it/doing it for fear of offending/not being liked.

If you are trying to be a dick, that's probably because you aren't a dick. It's not necessarily being an asshole that is a good feeling, moreso just being yourself and not being afraid to tell other assholes just what you think of them. Next time someone is annoying the shit out of you, tell them that you think they are annoying as hell. Next time someone steals your parking spot, park somewhere else and be sure to tell them what a fucking asshole they are. The next time some dude gives you a tough guy shoulder bump in the bar and looks at you like he wants to fight, throw his ass on the ground and put your boot on his neck.

Exactly, being yourself frees you from a lot, the sense of freedom feels good. If you're feigning being an asshole, you'll be as miserable as you are when feigning being overly nice.

My current gameplan:

1.) Stop putting so much thought into stuff, just do it based on how I feel. (learning to trust my intuition/"inner voice")

2.) Get out more when the opportunity arises. Even if I don't really feel like going out on the town, I'm still going to do it. Never know what might happen/come up if I do.

3.) Enjoy the simple things. I take a lot of what I have for granted, but when I think about all that I have/have done so far, I am pretty well off. Life isn't as dark as I always paint it out to be.

I'm not "trying", per se. If there's any effort involved, it's me trying to keep from falling into my same patterns. It's more just me being myself as you said, rather then the controlled/self-conscious "myself" who thinks something over about a hundred times before saying it/doing it for fear of offending/not being liked.

There ya go, you're going at the root of it now. What does being liked buy you? That and a dollar can buy you a cup of coffee. Whether 0 people like you, or 100,000, you will always be more content if you're being yourself. That's what all of this is about, free yourself from the guidelines that society as forcefed you to believe that you have to adhere to, or you aren't an adaquate person. Fuck that.

It has to start somewhere, it has to start sometime
What better place than here? What better time than now?

Nice RATM reference.

My current gameplan:

1.) Stop putting so much thought into stuff, just do it based on how I feel. (learning to trust my intuition/"inner voice")
That's good... but never stop thinking. Question everything, and always ask WHY over top of anything else. Evaluate why you do what you do, and why others do what they do. You will most likely conclude that people in general are really ignorant to anything 10 feet beyond them.

2.) Get out more when the opportunity arises. Even if I don't really feel like going out on the town, I'm still going to do it. Never know what might happen/come up if I do.
Well, do you feel that if you don't get out enough, that you aren't living, or your lfie is boring? We're in our 20s, we are "supposed" to be drunk as fuck 3 nights a week banging the easy prey bar skanks. If you don't enjoy that, don't fuckin do it. I think the whole anime thing is weird as shit, but I think it's even more fucked up that you stop switch from anime to something else because people like me think it's weird. Do YOU.

3.) Enjoy the simple things. I take a lot of what I have for granted, but when I think about all that I have/have done so far, I am pretty well off. Life isn't as dark as I always paint it out to be.

Exactly. The last girl I was messing with told me it was annoying as fuck how I saw things sometimes. We were in line at a grocery store, and the cashier fucked something up and we had to wait 5 minutes. She was annoyed. I'm like... alright, how many people in the world can't simply go to a grocery store and buy shit? They have to grow all of their food, many do without, etc. How many people would love to be able to stand up healthy for 5 minutes? We're fucking spoiled little imbeciles that take everything for granted, and always want MORE.

You will find that one you really start being exactly who you are, and doing exactly what you want to do, that you end up with much better company around you than before. Rather than putting on a dog and pony show just to get along with certain people, you have people that enjoy you for who you are. Whether you are an enormous douchebag, or you like world of warcraft.

Nice RATM reference.

Love it. I don't agree with every political message, but the music is bad ass, and I think the govt is a bunch of corrupt greedy lying assholes with alterior motives influenced largely by lobbyists.

"Township Rebellion" is one of my favorite songs ever.

Well, do you feel that if you don't get out enough, that you aren't living, or your lfie is boring? We're in our 20s, we are "supposed" to be drunk as fuck 3 nights a week banging the easy prey bar skanks. If you don't enjoy that, don't fuckin do it. I think the whole anime thing is weird as shit, but I think it's even more fucked up that you stop switch from anime to something else because people like me think it's weird. Do YOU.


Werd. Don't get me wrong, I'm not forcing myself to do shit that I don't want to. I just think if I find myself somewhat bored with life, I should do more to open up chances for fun things to come around. Nothing comes around when I do nothing, after all.

You will find that one you really start being exactly who you are, and doing exactly what you want to do, that you end up with much better company around you than before. Rather than putting on a dog and pony show just to get along with certain people, you have people that enjoy you for who you are. Whether you are an enormous douchebag, or you like world of warcraft.

Agreed. You will draw in some of the coolest fuckers ever, and experience friendship that is real. I know I've been guilty of judging people for dumbass bullshit reasons, when I had no grounds to stand on in the first place. The interesting part is, we judge ourselves in the same way that we judge other people.

Love it. I don't agree with every political message, but the music is bad ass, and I think the govt is a bunch of corrupt greedy lying assholes with alterior motives influenced largely by lobbyists.

"Township Rebellion" is one of my favorite songs ever.

Oh, how true... how true... lol, I spent a short time in DoO arguing this fact. Gave up when I realized it's basically like talking to fucking brick walls at times.

Oh, how true... how true... lol, I spent a short time in DoO arguing this fact. Gave up when I realized it's basically like talking to fucking brick walls at times.

Yeah, I've got news for 90% of white guys in America. All of the cute American dream crap is just that, mostly crap. Big business runs this country, and when it boils down, it's all politics, and the benefit of politics is money being put into the right pockets.

Yeah, I've got news for 90% of white guys in America. All of the cute American dream crap is just that, mostly crap. Big business runs this country, and when it boils down, it's all politics, and the benefit of politics is money being put into the right pockets.

Shut up, commie.

Tfl is the last place I expected to stumble into a group therapy session

Tfl is the last place I expected to stumble into a group therapy session

:grouphug:

:grouphug:

Not gay unless the balls touch IMO.

Tfl is the last place I expected to stumble into a group therapy session

This thread ness less vert, yzf, and queen. Wotnart can stay, his single post per page is kinda funny.

can I get in on this hand holding?

Not after that picture I saw of you and your boyfriend on the moped.

Hahah, Existentialism and the occasional flame toss.

Truly a 5 star thread. Intellectual AND brutish all in one.

you've already been shown the door by one of the chief ball cuppers in this thread, vert.

Your jelous of my gay bike pic imo.

you've already been shown the door by one of the chief ball cuppers in this thread, vert.

Your jelous of my gay bike pic imo.

:owned:

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:gay2:

Oic

Agreed. You will draw in some of the coolest fuckers ever, and experience friendship that is real. I know I've been guilty of judging people for dumbass bullshit reasons, when I had no grounds to stand on in the first place. The interesting part is, we judge ourselves in the same way that we judge other people.

Judging people is entertaining sometimes though. I just like to see how many times I am right about them.

lul

P.S. find a black one next time, and stop trying to come up with any excuse to post the picture. As you can see, obviously it doesn't bother me. Now, could I continue to post pictures of your goofy ass and bother you? I sure could, because you're insecure, as you should be of someone your size and looks.

That's just how Vert rolls. He's probably posted my pic about 30 times.

This thread ness less vert, yzf, and queen. Wotnart can stay, his single post per page is kinda funny.

This makes TWO, I think.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Alex-7/nasty.jpg

2.) Get out more when the opportunity arises. Even if I don't really feel like going out on the town, I'm still going to do it. Never know what might happen/come up if I do.



careful with this one. You might end up playing soccer at 5:00 am with a girl who has no intention of giving you her number.

careful with this one. You might end up playing soccer at 5:00 am with a girl who has no intention of giving you her number.

Needs a rape shower IMO

Needs a rape shower IMO

I didn't get to shower with her either :(

careful with this one. You might end up playing soccer at 5:00 am with a girl who has no intention of giving you her number.

Already went through that, somewhat. Shit ain't happening again.

*pic of ugly ass bitch*

Just had to go ahead and fuck shit up, didn't you? Last thing I wanted to see was Ms. Snaggletooth in my thread.

Have you been practicing your magic tricks DAK?

Have you been practicing your magic tricks DAK?

Yeah, been teaching bitches how to make my dick disappear into their mouths.

How about you, want a lesson? :asshole:

I like turtles.

I like turtles.

So do I actually. Haven't had one in awhile though. Believe it or not, my last one ran away on me.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y

Yeah, been teaching bitches how to make my dick disappear into their mouths.

How about you?



Been doing pretty well lately.

Just gotta figure out which one to go with and stop sneaking around.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Alex-7/TheGame.jpg

I'm surprised you still have that pic.

Then again, no... Not really... lol

Also, yeah man. Need to make up your mind. Playing the two-step game is only gonna get you burned, eventually. Via STD or otherwise.

So do I actually. Haven't had one in awhile though. Believe it or not, my last one ran away on me.

Do you have a bunch of them fuckers crossing the road this time of year in MD? Like their eggs hatch by roads and the little babies cross the road? I'm normally all for killing shit, but for some reason I feel bad when I accidentally run one of them over. :(

Also, yeah man. Need to make up your mind. Playing the two-step game is only gonna get you burned, eventually. Via STD or otherwise.


I love that pic! had to dig through photobucket to find it.


It's more like a three step atm. But I think I've got it figured.

Do you have a bunch of them fuckers crossing the road this time of year in MD? Like their eggs hatch by roads and the little babies cross the road? I'm normally all for killing shit, but for some reason I feel bad when I accidentally run one of them over. :(

Actually, no. I haven't seen anything like that, but I can tell you a pretty funny/fucked up tale.

So I was in Front Royal, VA with some car enthusiasts driving on the backroads early one Saturday (rolling about 6 cars deep) when the lead guy decides to step on it. We all follow suit of course and are happily blazing down the road when I guess he spots a turtle in the middle of the road. He manages to swerve to avoid, and everyone else manages to do the same. Everyone except me, of course.

I was too busy chasing down the white S2000 in front of me and didn't even notice that he was making an evasive move. I end up seeing the poor little guy far too late and could do nothing but to try and drive over him so that he would pass safely underneath. Yeah, that didn't work... Turtle ends up hitting the underside of my car and then gets rolled over by my rear tire, but not before making a "thunk" that I swear to the almighty sounded like the noise Koopa Troopers make when Mario jumps on them.

I felt bad for like half a second before that sound, then couldn't stop laughing my ass off.

. a "thunk" that I swear to the almighty sounded like the sound Koopa Troopers make when Mario jumps on them.




LOOOOL!


I hit a cat the other day. no bueno.

Actually, no. I haven't seen anything like that, but I can tell you a pretty funny/fucked up tale.

So I was in Front Royal, VA with some car enthusiasts driving on the backroads early one Saturday (rolling about 6 cars deep) when the lead guy decides to step on it. We all follow suit of course and are happily blazing down the road when I guess he spots a turtle in the middle of the road. He manages to swerve to avoid, and everyone else manages to do the same. Everyone except me, of course.

I was too busy chasing down the white S2000 in front of me and didn't even notice that he was making an evasive move. I end up seeing the poor little guy far too late and could do nothing but to try and drive over him so that he would pass safely underneath. Yeah, that didn't work... Turtle ends up hitting the underside of my car and then gets rolled over by my rear tire, but not before making a "thunk" that I swear to the almighty sounded like the noise Koopa Troopers make when Mario jumps on them.

I felt bad for like half a second before that sound, then couldn't stop laughing my ass off.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

I dunno why man, but up here the past couple weeks they are ALL OVER. Little babies. Some lady stopped right in the middle of a main highway the other day to help them make it safely. She was fat and blonde and kind of looked like Calla Lilly. She almost got hit a couple of times over.

the shop master


*bows*

You and ark's fast and furious pic, I'll never do better work.... LOL.

I love how in that pic, Ark almost looks like Stephen Hawking.

I think I look more like that monster from Beowulf.

I love how in that pic, Ark almost looks like Stephen Hawking.


LOL

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Alex-7/fast_furious_500.jpg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y

Awesome.

http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/hawkinghimes.jpg

They see me rolling, they hating.

or maybe less of you...Ecclesisates sums up everything is this thread beautifully

+infinitybillion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OBlgSz8sSM&eurl=http://www.theforumlounge.com/purpose-p195527.html

This thread ness less vert, yzf, and queen. Wotnart can stay, his single post per page is kinda funny.

shut the fuck up, Thoreau

shut the fuck up, Thoreau

http://www.orlyowl.com/lolowl.jpg

That has to be the wittiest thing I've read all day.

shut the fuck up, Thoreau

TFL != kitchen.

Figure out the rest, bitch.

The purpose of life is to develop yourself. You can take your life in any direction your environment will allow; I like to see it all as a long term investment. You always have options in any situation, and it starts in the choices you make on what to think. Your thoughts control your life.

My own journey with settling my questions about life started about 7-8 years ago and things have unfolded incredibly since then. I started looking at everything I did as investments for the future. Behavior, thought patterns, communication, and of course career and intellectual development became the focus for me. I'm so much happier now then when I was in my early 20s because of this change. On the material side, one example of this is I finally finished my engineering degree and put some fabrication project experience to work. I just got a kickass aerospace / composites job because of all those past efforts. My biggest decisions now involve how to spend a bunch of money and which house to buy (although the markets are tanking - it's a BAD time to make a leveraged investment in housing), rather than who to avoid in the work place or how to get my mind off the monotony of living in a cubicle.

The future is created by the past, which is fed by the present. Everything you do now has compounding consequences in your future. Choose wisely. :D

Honestly, remember that old idea that you should do what you love and you'll always be happy?

Yeah, that's bullshit. You do what you can deal with, and enjoy the fruits of your labor. I don't particularly enjoy what I do all that much, it's not like I'm throwing a party over it. In a couple years though, I won't have a boss to report to, won't have an office to report to, will be making my own hours, and making even more money. Is the shit I'll be doing interesting? Not really in the least bit. However, I'll have lots of time to myself, and lots of disposable income to do all of the things I want to do.

I wouldn't focus so much on finding that rewarding career that you think will make you happy. You know what makes me happy? Modding cars, fishing, playing instruments, and drinking beers on the beach. I'm not going to be a mechanic, and no one is going to pay me to fish, jam out, or drink. So, I put up with something that isn't terribly exciting or entertaining because the pay checks are good. In the meantime, enjoy what you've got and have as much fun as you can.

Happiness is all about the little things man. Having a good beer, meeting a cool girl, driving down a badass road, eating a good meal. There is no eternal key to being happy all the time. Even when you've got the things you want, you still want more, and you still feel the same.


Bravo. :bigthumb:

This could all be a test as well.

Or, think about this:

We don't experience the best of pleasure without experiencing pain. For example, the ability to walk around to you isn't really pleasurable. You take it for granted, and think nothing of it. However, picture yourself as being in a wheel chair with doctors telling you that you'll never walk again. A miracle occurs, and you gain full functionality of your legs again. Now, walking is extremely pleasurable to you because you have been on pain side of the spectrum. Perhaps the same is true for emotional pain, that without experiencing the pain, we can't experience the same degree/extreme on the other side of the spectrum, the pleasure.

If you were given a choice to either,
A: Never really feel too much emotional pain, but stay pretty constant in life, and be level at all times, or
B: Go through emotional pain such as you are at a young age, but experience extreme emotional pleasure later in life which couldn't have been obtained without going through the pain.

Which would you pick?

Another good post. :stupid:

Bringin' this one back.

So, as of July 3rd (my birthday), Discovery decided not to renew my contract for any further work. Seems my supervisor still held grudges about me from when I first messed up and actually fabricated a story to get the action moved forward. I don't really mind, though. I knew the vibe between us had grown to a point of dire stress, and if she wasn't so wrapped up in it to see the progress I've made all around on the other two channels I ran for over a month after then I really don't need to be there any longer. Besides, they got rid of me on my fucking birthday (even though I took the day off. I NEVER work on my B-days, and it's the first thing I tell employers when vacation comes up.)

So, I've been enjoying the bum life for a few days. People are finding my resume on Monster.com faster then it ever has before, Got 3 job calls so far, a good as sealed job with SAIC (but I'm not liking the work/pay/location. I'll take it if I have to, but I don't think I'm going to be driving to Columbia, MD every day to a job that has quotas, issues with the current workforce not doing all the work they're capable of, and drug tests (*snicker*). $14/hr till January ain't worth that shit, but they know where I come from and tried to keep telling me that .50 raises and up are something to look forward to regarding a guy with my experience.

I'm really trying to get ahold of another Traffic Coordinator position, since one of the job calls was regarding that. It's for two months, but in Rockville and at a comparable rate to what I used to make. I'm thinking of trying to stay in the Trafficing biz for at least a year, and then use that experience to make it into television. Already have 7 months, so 2 more would only help. Just gotta follow through on that one like a champ and hope for the best.

Is mediocre jobs, just gettin by, really what you want in life?

Not at all, hence why I really don't wanna deal with SAIC. Good stepping stone, but I'd drive myself nuts

DAK, look into the TSA. If you wouldn't mind scanning bags all day, they pay fairly well and don't require a whole lot as far as qualifications go.

I haven't posted on this board in a while but I stumbled upon this thread at seemingly the the most appropriate time in my life. I'm getting ready to graduate with a B.S. in Computer engineering but I've been having the same questions as the OP concerning where I go from here. I realize that I don't really want to squeak by at some company until I'm 50 and I've basically come to the same conclusions as DAK / Zero / and 2GR. It's nice to know other people have been having the same thoughts a me, this thread has been a great help.

Glad this thread was of some use to ya Vector :D

Update: So it seems the fates have smiled upon me since my last post. Since updating my resume and putting it on Monster.com, quite a few folks have been reaching out to me. All good, but one company that found me definitely has my interest.

http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/home/0%2C1044%2Csid%25253D2000%2C00.html

I didn't know a thing about Deloitte till I did some research on the good 'ol internets. This place is definitely my top priority ATM. I've already had 2 phone interviews, and I'm just waiting on the week of the 28th so the hiring manager from ATL can fly up to meet me. Haven't been this nervous about a potential gig since Randstad first talked to me about Discovery. Though I have a feeling this is WAY more important. :D

Edit: Hey 2ndGen. Since you're in the money business, have you ever heard of or come across this company before in your line of work?

look around and notice if old fuckers are working in the field you are. if not found, youll eventually suffer the same fate as them.

have you guys watched fight club lately. therein is the purpose of life

have you guys watched fight club lately. therein is the purpose of life

pretty sure most of this retarded thread is based on fight club

have you guys watched fight club lately. therein is the purpose of life

Nancy Drew.

pretty sure most of this retarded thread is based on fight club

lolol

Glad this thread was of some use to ya Vector :D

Update: So it seems the fates have smiled upon me since my last post. Since updating my resume and putting it on Monster.com, quite a few folks have been reaching out to me. All good, but one company that found me definitely has my interest.

http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/home/0%2C1044%2Csid%25253D2000%2C00.html

I didn't know a thing about Deloitte till I did some research on the good 'ol internets. This place is definitely my top priority ATM. I've already had 2 phone interviews, and I'm just waiting on the week of the 28th so the hiring manager from ATL can fly up to meet me. Haven't been this nervous about a potential gig since Randstad first talked to me about Discovery. Though I have a feeling this is WAY more important. :D

Edit: Hey 2ndGen. Since you're in the money business, have you ever heard of or come across this company before in your line of work?



Do you have any accounting experience? I know Deloitte well, have a friend that works there actually. We don't really utilize them, but my old company did. They mainly do auditing and accounting services for mid to large corporations. They will always have a considerable amount of work, especially since the advent of Sarbanes-Oxley, and every company being extremely concerned with proper book keeping to avoid going to jail.

i wouldn't exactly say it is the most stimulating career path, the shit is pretty to be honest with you. If you are really into financial accounting then you might enjoy it, but I'm not so sure that is the case. They do pay well though, average starting is in the 50-60 range.

If you are in the feild of accounting, don't bother staying with an accounting firm. The real money is in industry.

Are you familiar with Reznick, 2gr?

I've heard of them, but have never done work with them. My main experience is with Ernst and Young.

Do you have any accounting experience? I know Deloitte well, have a friend that works there actually. We don't really utilize them, but my old company did. They mainly do auditing and accounting services for mid to large corporations. They will always have a considerable amount of work, especially since the advent of Sarbanes-Oxley, and every company being extremely concerned with proper book keeping to avoid going to jail.

i wouldn't exactly say it is the most stimulating career path, the shit is pretty to be honest with you. If you are really into financial accounting then you might enjoy it, but I'm not so sure that is the case. They do pay well though, average starting is in the 50-60 range.

Nope, no accounting exp. However, the gig they're trying to place me in is for a "Document and Creative Services Coordinator" which sounds sort of what I was doing for Discovery, only non-TV.

I'm a little under qualified for the position, to be honest. But from what I read of the position description, it shouldn't be all that hard to grasp once I'm hired. Attention to detail, client negotiation skills, and following a project from start to finish seems to be the core skills they're looking for, and I do certainly have those.

And yeah, I believe I was quoted a salary of around high 40s low 50s for the position, depending on experience. That's really what got my interest. :D

Plus, they seem to have a bit of a fun side, too. http://www.youtube.com/user/DeloitteFilmFest

Well if it makes you feel better, the more I "network" with people in the IT field, 99% aren't qualified... seriously, if upper management in lots of the mid-size companies here knew the skillset of the people they're relying to keep their business operational, they wouldn't sleep at night.

The "Oh I used to do this but then I switched to IT" are the worse... If you're in IT, you shouldn't be there because you were doing something else and got savvy with Office. That isn't even the tip of the iceberg.

+1

One of the guys at my old job in IT told me that he got his gig by taking photos of his computer internals, taking it apart and then putting it back together again as self-training. lol

+1

One of the guys at my old job in IT told me that he got his gig by taking photos of his computer internals, taking it apart and then putting it back together again as self-training. lol

A monkey can put a computer together.

A monkey can put a computer together.

Which is why $15/hour is pretty much top pay for hardware people. Can I typically design a better computer than people that think they know what they're doing? Yes I can. You're only as fast as your worst bottleneck, the same concept goes for servers and all hardware. Hardware compatibility is at it's peak as far as options. There's more types of memory than ever, there's 32bit vs 64bit, there's multi-core processors, there's ide vs sata, there's even RAID implementation on desktops now. RAID Is one of those things that most any know-it-all can explain the general idea of (raid 5, that's about all they understand because it's the most important) but 1% has actually setup their own RAID. Putting together computer parts is easy once they're in front of you... not limiting yourself by purchasing the best compatible hardware for your purpose isn't easy, and requires a good understanding of how everything works. If you could do this efficiently, you'd have a job already, you wouldn't be shooting for walgreens. It surely isn't brain surgery, but it isn't common knowledge either--which is why 99% of computers you run across in homes say "dell" or something big boy company on them.

Where's the money at? Obtaining better systems, for cheaper. It's cost-efficiency.


I'm just saying, too many people are rockin "IT" jobs that do not know what they're doing. My company sent me to a 2-day training course on Exchange 2007 implementation, and many of the people in there were not qualified to do absolutely anything in IT in my opinion, they were simply regular old people that knew how to install their own printers, and this is so common in "IT" from what I've seen. 2 people were there from a rather large college, who were going to be in charge of upgrading to exchange 2007. One asked, "what's the difference between a security group and a distribution group?" as it was shown on the screen... WOW. You're allowed to touch server2003/exchange, and you don't know this? When she manages to fuck up a large college's entire e-mail system, they'll probably screen people better. Where is her strong point? She can pacify people on the other end until she gets a geek to fix it for her. Strong communication skills can keep you a job, just by being able to listen to people and be a middle-man, because often, geeks are holier-than-thou, and users don't like that shit. This woman should still not be touching anything related to this project, because, she has no idea what she's doing.

Knowing "tricks" in windows xp, how to change mouse settings, how to burn cds, and download games isn't a job qualification.

Which is why $15/hour is pretty much top pay for hardware people.

And then there is government work :P