Several weeks ago a new family started going to my church. They’ve got two infants and I’m convinced that at least one of them is some sort of spawn from Hell. This kid wails throughout the entire mass, making it impossible to focus on anything other than how much I hate babies. What kills me is that our church has a fully functional crying room where parents can be with their kids and still follow the mass. Yet these parents refuse to go there, forcing us all to listen to their little Damien scream for an hour.

heh. and here I caught the eye of a howling kid as I was walking into walmart friday and had him giggling by the time I got past.

y'all might try projecting joy instead of hate, kids pick up on that sort of thing.

Kinda hard to do when the kid sits 12 rows behind you and you aren't goofy looking.

lol
you could pass the belt to his parents. They would then understand very clearly. Might as well trust in God whom will 'bless' understanding to those around instead of handling over their brat to some stranger.

Kinda hard to do when the kid sits 12 rows behind you and you aren't goofy looking.

rofl! You hear that honegod? tape your ears in ;)

Gary ????

I think it is my semi-prehensile beard that is more interesting than whatever they are crying about.

most of the time they just want someone to notice them as individuals, good luck having that happen in church where everybody is focussed on jesus and their own soul.

See, proof that only the pure ears of a newborn can tell that the church is trying to brainwash you. Except when asked the easy answer for the church is that the kid must be the spawn of satan.

See, proof that only the pure ears of a newborn can tell that the church is trying to brainwash you. Except when asked the easy answer for the church is that the kid must be the spawn of satan.

No one is trying to brainwash me.

How bout those Flames?

No one is trying to brainwash me.

well, if there was a god HE would be trying to brainwash you, that being the entire point of the church, to wash the ungodly sin out of your brain.

but you are right, since there is no god doing the deed whoever it is standing up front and demanding that you pay attention to him instead of to unhappy children certainly appears to be interested in inserting thoughts into your head about listening to him.

brainwashing ?

at least he isn't stopping the sermon and telling everybody to pay total attention to the kid, like a crowd of robots "Resistance Is Futile."

you have a long beard, honegod?

how old are you?


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well, if there was a god HE would be trying to brainwash you, that being the entire point of the church, to wash the ungodly sin out of your brain.

Most believers subscribe to a theory of free will that, while poorly conceived, does not give way to the notion that God is trying to brainwash us.

but you are right, since there is no god doing the deed whoever it is standing up front and demanding that you pay attention to him instead of to unhappy children certainly appears to be interested in inserting thoughts into your head about listening to him.

Who is demanding my attention? The priest? He makes no such demand. Instead, I’m sure that he assumes that attention is being paid, which, considering that the majority who attend mass do so freely, is a fair assumption. His ability to insert thoughts into my head depends on my accepting what he has to say. This seems to contradict these dramatic notions of brainwashing.

at least he isn't stopping the sermon and telling everybody to pay total attention to the kid, like a crowd of robots "Resistance Is Futile."

No, instead he attempts to speak over them. Governed by the fear of a diminishing parish, he holds his tongue.

suprisingly accurate statement

every blow I strike is exactly accurate, your problem in seeing that is parallax induced.


most churches these days are so culture sensitive they don't spend much time in the Word, and so very little "ungodly sin" is purged from the mind of anyone...instead, people are made to feel comfortable, as the highest priority

duh, most churches are owned and operated by satan, otherwise most people WOULD be finding that narrow gate.

the fact that they are going to church shows that they ARE trying, and if the TRUTH was available to them... well, good thing satan is on the ball or god would have a lot of unused space in hell.

which would be a bad thing.

:bowdown: :screwyou:

Most believers subscribe to a theory of free will that, while poorly conceived, does not give way to the notion that God is trying to brainwash us.

the point of rebirth in the spirit is that jesus takes away your sinful nature and installs his perfect sinless nature in its place, right ?

except that doesn't really happen, so you have to learn how to ACT like it has happened.

because if you can convince yourself that it has happened then it really has.

{jesus said that, somewhere.}



No, instead he attempts to speak over them. Governed by the fear of a diminishing parish, he holds his tongue.

right, jesus certainly wouldn't stop telling people how to love each other to comfort a crying child, how much less should a whole churchful ?


even though it is the baby jesus who is crying.

c'mon honegod, when it was myself and two other Christian guys in the lounge on Rx-7club about 1-2 years ago you were shown the door so fast you head spun, you were essentially laughed right off the thread


sweet ! what thread ?

the one about lazarii ?

the point of rebirth in the spirit is that jesus takes away your sinful nature and installs his perfect sinless nature in its place, right ?

except that doesn't really happen, so you have to learn how to ACT like it has happened.

because if you can convince yourself that it has happened then it really has.

{jesus said that, somewhere.}

You’ve just built yourself a paradox there, honegod.

right, jesus certainly wouldn't stop telling people how to love each other to comfort a crying child, how much less should a whole churchful ?

even though it is the baby jesus who is crying.

Admittedly, blaming a child for any such thing is immature. I concede that. My real issue is with the parents who seem content to just ignore their child’s screaming while everyone else must endure it.

At the same time though, a vasectomy never sounded so good.

You’ve just built yourself a paradox there, honegod.


miracles, just the thing to get those stubborn paradox stains out of your holy robes.

My real issue is with the parents who seem content to just ignore their child’s screaming while everyone else must endure it.


right, I expand that TO all the rest of the people present.

if 100 people all concentrating on one infant cannot get it happy there is really something wrong, with the kid or with the people.

100 people ignoring the infant IS a problem if those people are gathered together specifically to be better christians.

see what I mean ?

they are NOT loving their neighbor, they are getting annoyed by him.

and instead of extending a helping hand to help in his time of suffering they are just getting annoyed.

the priest sucks.

the mother is trying to follow HIS lead, and instead of him helping this smallest member of his flock he is getting annoyed too.

instead of just continuing his rant about folks who don't put enough into the collection plate he should be canvassing the audience for a fresh diaper then possibly picking back up with a bit on the good samaritin.

this whole episode strikes me as being run by satan.
against the baby jesus in the audience.

and it sounds like satan won. :(

Ever seen Forest Gump? Remember the scene where Forest is playing football and he catches the ball and he starts running with it? He runs so fast that no one can catch him but he doesn’t understand the game so he keeps on running right out of the stadium. This kind of reminds me of you, except you didn’t score a touch down.


right, I expand that TO all the rest of the people present.

if 100 people all concentrating on one infant cannot get it happy there is really something wrong, with the kid or with the people.

For various reasons, infants cry. That’s what they do. Does it mean that it is suffering? Not necessarily, and in this case certainly not. What would you have the parish do, all gather around taking turns playing peek-a-boo? Should the priest bust out the hand puppets during the homely? Hey, why stop at infants? My sister seems pretty bored when we are at church. Naturally she’s too old to cry about it but according to you she must be suffering, right? How un-Christian of my priest for not setting up a big screen for her so she can watch MTV.

100 people ignoring the infant IS a problem if those people are gathered together specifically to be better christians.

Again, infants cry. You seem to equate a child’s crying to a child being abused. Since this is not the case, your argument is weak. I wonder, would you take the same high-handed stance if the circumstances were different, say, a baby crying on a plane?

see what I mean ?

No

they are NOT loving their neighbor, they are getting annoyed by him.

I love my family, I love some of my friends but sometimes they annoy the shit out of me. The fact that I love them is what allows me to endure them during such times.

and instead of extending a helping hand to help in his time of suffering they are just getting annoyed.

Time of need? What the fuck are you talking about? Stick to arguments that don’t require you becoming a drama queen.

the priest sucks.

Your ability to judge someone that you have never met and know nothing about is astounding.

the mother is trying to follow HIS lead, and instead of him helping this smallest member of his flock he is getting annoyed too.

instead of just continuing his rant about folks who don't put enough into the collection plate he should be canvassing the audience for a fresh diaper then possibly picking back up with a bit on the good samaritin.

Right, because that is clearly the priest’s job. I can picture it now, every time the baby peeps the priest would stop the proceedings and ask the mother if there’s anything he can do for them. Think of the marketing possibilities: ads that read “Come sit through the world’s only 14 hour mass!”

this whole episode strikes me as being run by satan.
against the baby jesus in the audience.

and it sounds like satan won. :(

Sounds like someone is crazy.

heh, I see there being two quite different kinds of christians.

one is a grumpy terrorist bastard who can barely contain his hate and disgust for the rest of humanity, the other is genuinely concerned about his brothers wellbeing.

I thought I was addressing the latter, sorry :D

Think about how stupid you sound right now.

Being annoyed by a screaming baby = "grumpy terrorist bastard who can barely contain his hate and disgust for the rest of humanity"

which one was it that drowned the entire planet because he got annoyed by all the partying the neighbors were doing ?

{yah, I still feel waaay crummy, the Ivory Tower is filling up with kleenexes and I had to restart the woodstove 'cause the outside temperature dropped 40°f over the last 24 hours. }

{yah, I still feel waaay crummy, the Ivory Tower is filling up with kleenexes and I had to restart the woodstove 'cause the outside temperature dropped 40°f over the last 24 hours. }

I'm sorry to hear that...

:D

if a hundred people invested with the Holy Spirit got together and prayed for the Holy Spirit to wake up in the kid and chill her out a bit, while her mom deftly changes her, how can ANYTHING but good come from that ?

having the kids first Word being "Amen" shouted out in church would be gravy