A special distrust of sex and exaggerated shame in nudity. Prohibitions on eating certain foods and keeping certain animals. Just my humble opinion of course. Any one care to comment? Yes sir, you in the back.
"Hi my name is Ark and I have to say since everyone's perspective is different, we are likely on a different planet, and living in the 5th dimention. Therefore, as far as I am concern, you could be a talking duck."
That is nice son. Can you run along and grab me some coffee? This could end up being a long-ass day. That's a good lad.

the notion that ALL people are property, to be bought and sold at the whim of our owner.

the notion that guilt may be TRANSFERRED to an innocent, who can then be punished INSTEAD of the actually guilty one.

the notion that DEATH is a GOOD thing, to be eagerly anticipated.

the notion that HATE is a godly virtue.

the notion that GENOCIDE is a good thing.

:bowdown: :screwyou:

A special distrust of sex and exaggerated shame in nudity. Prohibitions on eating certain foods and keeping certain animals. Just my humble opinion of course. Any one care to comment? Yes sir, you in the back.
"Hi my name is Ark and I have to say since everyone's perspective is different, we are likely on a different planet, and living in the 5th dimention. Therefore, as far as I am concern, you could be a talking duck."
That is nice son. Can you run along and grab me some coffee? This could end up being a long-ass day. That's a good lad.

Well because of Christ (if you believe) you are not bound by those laws anymore....He took down the temple and brought onto us a new covenant.

A special distrust of sex and exaggerated shame in nudity. Prohibitions on eating certain foods and keeping certain animals. Just my humble opinion of course. Any one care to comment? Yes sir, you in the back.
"Hi my name is Ark and I have to say since everyone's perspective is different, we are likely on a different planet, and living in the 5th dimention. Therefore, as far as I am concern, you could be a talking duck."
That is nice son. Can you run along and grab me some coffee? This could end up being a long-ass day. That's a good lad.

Hah! I guess you're running out of steam in the other thread. Does this mean I win round 2?

the notion that ALL people are property, to be bought and sold at the whim of our owner.

the notion that guilt may be TRANSFERRED to an innocent, who can then be punished INSTEAD of the actually guilty one.

the notion that DEATH is a GOOD thing, to be eagerly anticipated.

the notion that HATE is a godly virtue.

the notion that GENOCIDE is a good thing.

:bowdown: :screwyou:
HEHE how 'bout the Hebrews were not the first people to invent marriage or marital fidelity and indeed they permitted polygyny and the keeping of concubines for many centuries.

truth hurts

you are not giving the full story. So my question to you, Mr YZF, is there shame in nudity under your god's eyes?

/sigh
AFTER adam and eve, is there shame in nudity under your god's eyes?

there was no shame in the beginning (Genesis 1)

no.

shame was there, adam and eve were just unaware of it.



"the marriage bed is not defiled"

tell that to one of the 144,000 virgins god promised himself.

no....you can walk around nude all day in the privacy of your home and commit no sin
I like this answer. but we know what i was implying. You can aviod my query if you wish.

clear as mud. My thanks.

no argument there

shame was there, adam and eve were just unaware of it.


false

god created a checklist, one of the boxes was labled "shame".
you are saying that since the box was not checked it did not exist.
yet the box HAD to exist for them to check it.
adam and eve did NOT create the box, god did that when he created the universe.



tell that to one of the 144,000 virgins god promised himself.
unrelated topic

no, it is adding gods lust for virgin boys to the list of fun stuff your religion brings to otherwise sane folks.

:bowdown: :gay2: azzzzzz

here's a hint:

the 144,000 virgin Jewish males go into the Millennium and re-populate the earth!! they won't be virgins forever


I notice a severe lack of virgin jewish GIRLS in this plan.

who is going to take the 144,000 virgin Jewish males virginity ?

there will be women

the Bible tends to focus on men...men have the authority over women


you ASSUME there will be women, it doesn't SAY that there will be women.

just lots of virgin boys.

:bowdown: :gay2:

it would be difficult to re-populate the earth in that case :)

not for allmighty God, remember, He can do Maaagic.

the major and minor prophets refer to the Millennium in detail, and there is no mention of asexual reproduction, ha


the lion will eat straw like the ox,

so god is going to biologically modify the digestive system of carnivors so they only have to kill plants to live ?

how is making boys so they have babies any more difficult ?

:bowdown: :gay2:

false

wrong....TRUE.....

GENESIS 2:8-9

8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 And the LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

The concept of evil and all that it embodies was already in existence BEFORE the serpent entered the story, so you are wrong. The Bible is clear on this. EVIL existed because God created everything, including evil, Himself. The scriptures don't lie and they disagree with you completely.

there will be women

the Bible tends to focus on men...men have the authority over women

The Bible focuses on men??

EVE
HAGAR
REBECCA
RACHAEL
TAMAR
MIRIAM
DEBORAH
JAEL
DELILAH
BATHSHEBA
JEZEBEL
RUTH
ESTHER

These are just some of the women in the Bible that received plenty of focus, from the old testament actually with this list. Several others were plainly mentioned without names being involved, such as the gentile woman that spoke to Jesus. While there is most definitely an abundance of men involved in scriptures, there is no truth to your claim that the bible focuses on men. Much of the bible tells historical stories, and clearly the women were not forgotten.

Funny how women are mentioned so many times in the bible, yet for this specific topic, there is no mention of them. If the point was that God's Word focused on men, then it would surely have focused more on men throughout the entire book and not just when talking about this particular topic--the repopulation of the earth. BUT--let's see now....

1--God populated the earth the first time starting with only two people, Adam and Eve.

2--God populated the earth the second time using a very few select group of people--Noah and those who were on the ark with him.

3--Now you want us to believe that God would need 144,000 jewish virgin men to do the same job for a third time? God's method in this issue has always been "less is more".....

the major and minor prophets refer to the Millennium in detail, and there is no mention of asexual reproduction, ha

quite the contrary, it will be like it was at the time of Eden....God will restore the earth after 6,000 years or sin, decay, and death....that much is supernatural

Wrong again. If it is to be like it was in the time of Eden, God would use two people--a man and a woman....not 144,000 dudes in a sausage fest. Two people is how it was in the time of Eden. Perhaps this 144,000 are to serve a different purpose, or there is another part to the puzzle which is unclear to you still...

it would be difficult to re-populate the earth in that case

No, it wouldnt....not for GOD. God made man....like it was nothing. God then made woman, like it was nothing. God designed everything like it was a mere wave of the hand, so why would it be difficult for Him to repopulate the earth under any circumstances?

What if the earth is not even supposed to survive? I wonder why we dont see any mention of this...what if it is supposed to be replaced by something else? In Isaiah 65, which you posted, it even says this:

Isaiah 65

Behold, I will create
new heavens and a new earth.
The former things will not be remembered,
nor will they come to mind.
But be glad and rejoice forever
in what I will create,
for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight
and its people a joy.

It would seem that, rather than repopulation, actual survival is more the key....God takes His chosen and puts them on this new earth, and they reproduce only to keep their kind continuing and not to repopulate anything. What if the 144,000 is also intended to be about the size of the population in this new world??

Some other things that this passage tells....

Isaiah 65

Behold, I will create
new heavens and a new earth.
The former things will not be remembered,
nor will they come to mind.
But be glad and rejoice forever
in what I will create,
for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight
and its people a joy.

I will rejoice over Jerusalem
and take delight in my people;
the sound of weeping and of crying
will be heard in it no more.
Never again will there be in it
an infant who lives but a few days,
or an old man who does not live out his years;
he who dies at a hundred
will be thought a mere youth;
he who fails to reach a hundred
will be considered accursed.

They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.

No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
or plant and others eat.
For as the days of a tree,
so will be the days of my people;
my chosen ones will long enjoy
the works of their hands.

They will not toil in vain
or bear children doomed to misfortune;
for they will be a people blessed by the LORD,
they and their descendants with them.

Before they call I will answer;
while they are still speaking I will hear.

The wolf and the lamb will feed together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox,
but dust will be the serpent's food.
They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,"
says the LORD.

1--how can there be no more weeping or crying if there are still those who are cursed? Isnt a curse a bad thing? Dont people weep and cry over bad things? If you were in this place, and you were one of the accursed, isnt it possible that you would be weeping and crying because of it? Seems like a contradiction to me....

2--
They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.

No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
or plant and others eat.
For as the days of a tree,
so will be the days of my people;
my chosen ones will long enjoy
the works of their hands.

Isnt this a direct contradiction to the precise way that Jesus taught others to be? Why would a compassionate man not wish to give of what he has to another? ESPECIALLY if there are still cursed people around....Jesus Himself came to the earth and fed the poor, cared for the sick, and had compassion for the elderly....yet now, suddenly, the chosen ones are supposed to stop all that and act totally differently. What is the point of wanting to be more like Jesus if getting to this "new earth" means that you have to leave that behind and do a 180?

and btw, get I get amen as to what the God of Israel "brings to the table"??

Maybe you would, if you understood it yourself....

did someone post something here?

YZF, I guess this proves you are a bonafied misogynist. Ha! Ha!

Anyway, do you think the saints will reproduce beyond the rapture.? I sure like doing the bone-dance with my #1 lady-friend.

hardly! what prompted that comment?

Bad joke. Forget about it.

during the stress of the Tribulation, I doubt that will be too high on anyone's mind...but again, the earth will be re-populated during the Millennium by the 144,000

I mean during the millenium riegn, will the saints procreate? And will the children of the 144K be able to sin?

yes! they will multiply and fill the earth, much like the offspring of Noah after the global devastation of the Flood event

how do I know that? because a vast army will again surround Jerusalem at the conclusion of that 1,000 year period, and Christ will "rule the nations" with a rod of iron



yes....see above...satan will deceive the entire world (again) at the conclusion of the 1,000 years...why would Christ need to rule with a "rod of iron" if there was no sin to be dealt with? in other words, the scriptures makes it clear not all those born during the Millennium will have true faith, most will rebel when they are tempted by Satan to do so

and there's a striking object lesson here: the human will to sin is not the result of environment, it's our innate nature....even in a perfect world, humans will still choose sin/rebellion over submission to God

I'm confused. Will resurrected christians be able to have children and will they be able to sin again? I didn't think we ever would be able to again.

Can someone clarify why any of this matters if Jesus wrote a new covenant with us and struck down the old laws? I see you guys do it all of the time. Some one quotes a Hebrew law from Leviticus and someone else quotes the NT saying the law doesn't matter and then throws in another quote from the OT, which by logical reasoning would have no meaning anymore. If you believe the bible is the literal truth how can you tout any OT "truths" when they have been made irrelevant by the NT?
I will continue with my belief that the OT is a good background story with mythical explanations for the then "unexplainable" events, ie: Genesis, and some historical record keeping, ie: Exodus. The NT is a good guide by which to live. Whether Jesus was real or not and whether he was the savior foretold by the OT has nothing to do with the fact that the teachings in the NT are basic human morals common with many other religions. I still have yet to see a "true christian" that follows every teaching of Jesus every minute of every day. I know your response is that we all sin, but some of you don't seem to try very hard not to.

did someone post something here?

only a complete jackass makes this much effort to "ignore" someone for this much time when you and I both know that you read what I write....

Anyways, it isnt like you had any intelligent answers for my points anyways, so carry on with your fraudulent self

For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven."[/b][/i]

these would be the same angels that had sex with human women before god killed everybody on the planet, the FIRST time ?