I hope I don't come off like jxke did when he was asking about f/i options, but honestly, I do need some advice.

I have a Iron block 2.2L OHV engine, good for a whopping 120 HP and 135 lb/ft of torque. I would like to increase that to about 200 HP and hopefully retain stock internals if possible.

I don't want to go with nitrous, but if that would be a better option going the n/a route with nitrous, then maybe I would do that instead.

Any advice?

As far as I am concerned, it is just a matter of personal preference. a little t25 or t3 might do the trick. obviously you'd need intake, exhaust, ic, etc

I was wondering whether I could put together a junkyard turbo setup. Get a turbo off an older GM car and pick up everything else as I go along.

I've seen a kit for my car, but it's $3,000. Don't really want to spend that much. Junkyard parts possibly?

hell go subaru junkyard shopping get the turbo and the few of the exhaust parts and flanges... ull need a cuttin torch and a few shortwell sockets and an extension. and for those hard to unlock bolts... i used the intake flow converter and put it on my socket wrench and everything came out... there easy to get to but... no intercooler... small turbos that will be just right for ya. i went and got 4 out of a junkyard theys till spool great and everything internal wastegate and waterfloating bearings along w/ an oil feed. then go to your local exhaust shop and get sum pipes bent for your setup but make sure its the machine that doesnt crimp the pipe.

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Subaru turbos are tiny but they'll spool quick. Anything in the t25 range would probably be a nice start for you.

I agree. T-25 would probably be great for around 200hp.

For a computer, you can just use an additional injector controller with a 340-460cc or so sized injector. Its not the best setup, but it should get the job done.

Just thinking about some numbers, but if I got 200HP to the wheels, i'd be good for a high 14 second 1/4 mile time low 15's worst case scenario.

My car only weighs 2676 pounds unloaded. With my usually subs and myself, that would add about 200 pounds.

I think I need to start buying parts

http://www.turbocalculator.com/sale-garrett.php

who wants to pick?

Whats in the kit they sell?

The entry level Base Turbo Kit that comes complete with the best Tig welded tuned header available, a new Garrett T-3 turbo, Tial waistgate, down pipe, compression tube, blow off valve, oil feed line, oil return line, a modified Cavalier oil fill tube to accept oil return, and all necessary hardware, and air filter.

At $2495, there is not a better deal on the market for your "J" body.



http://www.cavalierconnection.com/online_catalog.htm

email them and get the specs on the turbo

the wrx has a td04L...i've got about 300 at the crank @ 18 lbs of boost...and w/ tuning people are getting about 340 at the crank on the same boost. so a subaru turbo would get you to what you want w/ about 13 lbs. but i don't know if your car can take that w/o changing to at least a thicker head gastket.

I agree. T-25 would probably be great for around 200hp.

For a computer, you can just use an additional injector controller with a 340-460cc or so sized injector. Its not the best setup, but it should get the job done.

So in addition to the parts needed for the turbo setup, i'll need bigger injectors and a boost controller, such as S-AFC?

email them and get the specs on the turbo

I just e-mailed them, i'm waiting on the specs as I type.

the most important thing is fuel and how you're gonna control it...you're gonna need another injector at the VERY minimum. Stand alone is best...but you're gonna need a SAFC(or something like it) and something to retard your timing...such as a msd

probably has a dizzy

boost controller isnt really essential

some fuel management will be, whether you want to do it electronically or with a ghetto way like rising rate fpr

Specs on the Turbo:

Thanks for contacting Cavalier Connection. The turbo kit for the 2.2L and 2200 comes with a Garrett T3 Super 60, capable of up to 20psi. Also, as a general rule you'll get 10 horsepower for every 1 pound of boost.

that's a pretty large compressor side for a stock n/a motor. i'd say you'll spool around 3700 rpm's or so unless it's ball bearing.

it should be a lot more than 10 hp/psi btw

They didnt say anything about the hot side

my guess was a t3 exhaust side w/ a super 60 compressor side...which is a fairly large setup.

t3s have an abundance of a/rs

i guess you're right

the wrx has a td04L...i've got about 300 at the crank @ 18 lbs of boost...and w/ tuning people are getting about 340 at the crank on the same boost. so a subaru turbo would get you to what you want w/ about 13 lbs. but i don't know if your car can take that w/o changing to at least a thicker head gastket.

300 at the crank..how much is lost after it finally hits the pavement? 227 is stock right? is that crank/wheel, etc?

Mark
95SE

w/ the mods i have and no tuning as of yet...most people w/ my setup(if not similar) are getting around 230(depending on the dyno) at the wheels. i used crank because he has fwd which has less drivetrain loss

supercharge it! thats what im doing

supercharge it! thats what im doing

I think i'll have everyone agree with me that "psssssssssssh" sounds a lot better than a supercharge whine. :)

but gotta love the torque curve with an SC

SC can have a BOV

yeah, sure can