This is just for novelty.
The folded steel ones that I have seen are over $1000.
Not some cheap SS sword for $19.00
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BATMAN 02-27-2006, 07:00 PM anyone know their shit in this area feel free to advise me. This is just for novelty. The folded steel ones that I have seen are over $1000. Not some cheap SS sword for $19.00 $100T2 02-27-2006, 07:58 PM Is there a point? If you want to blow $1000, get yourself a $200 hooker and an $800 medical bill. aznpoopy 02-27-2006, 09:52 PM i advise you not to get one. you will invariably be tempted to swing it around, and you will probably hurt yourself. since you're getting an 'expensive' one, and you're talking about the 'folding,' you will probably be tempted to try and cut something in half. there's alot more to a japanese sword then just a really sharp blade. for one thing, the interlocking pieces near the hilt have to be machined properly so the blade doesn't come apart from the handle. there are also varying types of blade geometry for different types of practice cutting. you could hurt yourself. i can't emphasize that enough. $1000 is not an expensive sword. it sounds more like one of those gimmick swords that they advertise as cutting swords that are anything but. there's a balance between edge hardness and the softness along the spine of the blade that has to be matched to keep the blade from snapping. most of these so called cutting swords are way too hard and end up snapping. you don't want to be on the wrong end of flying foot long shard of sharpened steel. if you want something to play with, get an iai-to. they are unsharpened metal practice swords. also good for display. BATMAN 02-28-2006, 12:15 AM Well, if i get one and i haven't posted for a week then something happened. Besides I'm pretty good with self control. I've got high performance car and high performance moderator powers. Seem to handle it good. Manntis 02-28-2006, 01:21 AM Self control? We've seen your wing ;) 'sides, katanas are for Japanese. You want a nice jian like one of these: http://www.fightingarts.com/content01/graphics/chinese_sword_02.jpg http://www.fightingarts.com/content01/graphics/chinese_sword_03.jpg meddle 02-28-2006, 01:27 AM I've got high performance car and high performance moderator powers. :roll: c00lduke 02-28-2006, 04:22 AM Do chicks dig steel folded Katanas? 2ndGen.Rocket 02-28-2006, 07:03 AM I don't think I could have weaponry like that in the house, I'd try to fuck shit up with it. Guns are one thing, I've been around them long enough to not play with them. However, if I had a giant sword I'd be too tempted to run out back with it and try to cut watermelons in half or something. My buddy has this big African spear in his room, and every time I go over there I throw it out the window to see if I can make it stick in a tree. DarkAngelKamui 02-28-2006, 07:14 AM anyone know their shit in this area feel free to advise me. This is just for novelty. The folded steel ones that I have seen are over $1000. Not some cheap SS sword for $19.00 You with a sword? lol, a REAL one no less? I dunno, man.... If you're just buying it to sit around your house all pretty like, nothing wrong with that... But I know I wouldn't buy any weapon I'm not familiar with using just for the heck of it, gun or not... I'd suggest taking some sword classes or something and THEN buying one... At least then you wouldn't have to feel like a poser when you're showing it off to your friends or waving it around to try and feel cool.... :D KatakanaKarl 02-28-2006, 08:37 AM You with a sword? lol, a REAL one no less? I dunno, man.... If you're just buying it to sit around your house all pretty like, nothing wrong with that... But I know I wouldn't buy any weapon I'm not familiar with using just for the heck of it, gun or not... I'd suggest taking some sword classes or something and THEN buying one... At least then you wouldn't have to feel like a poser when you're showing it off to your friends or waving it around to try and feel cool.... :D Yeah, classes. Kendo and Iaido. If I wasn't so lazy, and there was some place that taught them around here, I take those two. DarkAngelKamui 02-28-2006, 09:51 AM Yeah, classes. Kendo and Iaido. If I wasn't so lazy, and there was some place that taught them around here, I take those two. Hey, you know your stuff.... I'm impressed :D KatakanaKarl 02-28-2006, 09:55 AM Hey, you know your stuff.... I'm impressed :D http://www.sprout.org/toshiro/images/pics/Samurai2_4.jpeg Been watchin' them Samurai movies for a long time. BATMAN 02-28-2006, 09:56 AM You with a sword? lol, a REAL one no less? I dunno, man.... If you're just buying it to sit around your house all pretty like, nothing wrong with that... But I know I wouldn't buy any weapon I'm not familiar with using just for the heck of it, gun or not... I'd suggest taking some sword classes or something and THEN buying one... At least then you wouldn't have to feel like a poser when you're showing it off to your friends or waving it around to try and feel cool.... :D This one's for u: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/28/BAGM5HFO8J1.DTL BATMAN 02-28-2006, 09:58 AM Kendo and Iaido. I knew about them for a while. 91lx 02-28-2006, 10:20 AM did you ever fix your car where someone hit it ? havent been here in a while. KatakanaKarl 02-28-2006, 10:24 AM Iaido is awesome. The art of drawing your sword, killing somebody, cleaning the blade of blood, and resheathing it all in smooth motions. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Iaido_drawing_salute.jpg/800px-Iaido_drawing_salute.jpg DarkAngelKamui 02-28-2006, 10:32 AM http://www.sprout.org/toshiro/images/pics/Samurai2_4.jpeg Been watchin' them Samurai movies for a long time. Hahahah, thanks... You just reminded me that I wanted to change my sig for a little while :D DarkAngelKamui 02-28-2006, 10:34 AM This one's for u: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/28/BAGM5HFO8J1.DTL ROFL What a dumbass.... Shirt Ninjas wouldn't have gotten shot so easily.... :evillaugh KatakanaKarl 02-28-2006, 10:39 AM Hahahah, thanks... You just reminded me that I wanted to change my sig for a little while :D LOL. Toshiro Mifune = Badass. aznpoopy 02-28-2006, 10:52 AM Iaido is awesome. The art of drawing your sword, killing somebody, cleaning the blade of blood, and resheathing it all in smooth motions. actually if you want to be nitty gritty about it, it's the art of sitting in an archaic style that nobody has sat in for a couple hundred years, maiming an imaginary opponent with one strike, finishing with a second strike, cleaning the blood, and resheathing the sword, all in smooth and powerful motions. the seating position is actually quite uncomfortable, and not the one most people would think of (two legs tucked under you, sitting upright). it's an older form, and far more painful. burnoutking999 02-28-2006, 11:15 AM I don't think I could have weaponry like that in the house, I'd try to fuck shit up with it. Guns are one thing, I've been around them long enough to not play with them. However, if I had a giant sword I'd be too tempted to run out back with it and try to cut watermelons in half or something. My buddy has this big African spear in his room, and every time I go over there I throw it out the window to see if I can make it stick in a tree. so youre a spear chunker!? 2ndGen.Rocket 02-28-2006, 11:47 AM I'd get one for self defense in the house. Imagine the look on some motherfucker's face as he is sneaking through your living room and you come charging out with a goddamn samurai sword. Manntis 02-28-2006, 11:51 AM in the final days of the Samurai era, they were as likely to carry bamboo swords as steel ones - many sold their steel for sake money. KatakanaKarl 02-28-2006, 12:00 PM actually if you want to be nitty gritty about it, it's the art of sitting in an archaic style that nobody has sat in for a couple hundred years, maiming an imaginary opponent with one strike, finishing with a second strike, cleaning the blood, and resheathing the sword, all in smooth and powerful motions. the seating position is actually quite uncomfortable, and not the one most people would think of (two legs tucked under you, sitting upright). it's an older form, and far more painful. Yeah, but it's still cool. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5127192242108272489 DarkAngelKamui 02-28-2006, 12:12 PM I'd get one for self defense in the house. Imagine the look on some motherfucker's face as he is sneaking through your living room and you come charging out with a goddamn samurai sword. That's why I have one :D I had two, but I gave the other as a gift to a friend... BATMAN 02-28-2006, 12:29 PM in the final days of the Samurai era, they were as likely to carry bamboo swords as steel ones - many sold their steel for sake money. I think they carried a Boken instead of a bamboo sword. http://www.combatgear.co.uk/images/bok1.jpg burnoutking999 02-28-2006, 12:33 PM That would hurt like a bitch! those things are solid! BATMAN 02-28-2006, 12:54 PM Hardwood. It can kill as well, but with more pain, unless u get a bonk on the niggen. Manntis 02-28-2006, 01:58 PM I think they carried a Boken instead of a bamboo sword. When they swapped the whole thing, sometimes. But often just the blade steel was sold and a carved bamboo facsimilie inserted into the hilt. I'm tellin' ya, man, get a jian not a katana. K's may impress the round-eyes who think of all asians as one big (indistinguishable) family, but in the long run you'll feel more like you're promoting your heritage and less like a poseur with the correct sword. aznpoopy 02-28-2006, 02:11 PM Yeah, but it's still cool. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5127192242108272489 that's tameshigiri... not really iaido. in pure iaido you never cut anything. its supposed to be meditative. but yeah, it's still cool. that guy is really sloppy though. btw, why does everyone insist on calling swords by their 'ethnic' names. 'jian' literally means a straight sword or 'arrow' in chinese. it doesn't denote a particular style of sword, really. but all you round eye devils insist on calling that style chinese sword a 'jian' and all japanese swords 'katana.' it's really silly when a 'tachi' (older style japanese super long sword) is called a 'tachi katana.' these naming conventions don't make much sense. BATMAN 02-28-2006, 02:33 PM .....I'm tellin' ya, man, get a jian not a katana. K's may impress the round-eyes who think of all asians as one big (indistinguishable) family, but in the long run you'll feel more like you're promoting your heritage and less like a poseur with the correct sword. Katana > all other swords. The Chinese sword are flimsy and meant for slapping and poking. One hand holding and flapping the wrist is not as potent as grabbing the handle with 2 hands. Besides, this is the closest that I can feel like an ebony homo erectus. Grab a shaft with 2 hands and still have enough shaft for a 3rd hand.......... DarkAngelKamui 02-28-2006, 02:45 PM Somehow, SOMEWAY.... I just knew you were gonna go there.... lol Only took 3 pages to do it, too.... :teeth: BATMAN 02-28-2006, 02:50 PM I'm still on my first page. Why don't u set it so that u have a long page instead of 3 short pages. Jedon 02-28-2006, 02:54 PM I could easily kill someone with a boken. 16 years of experience... Manntis 02-28-2006, 03:03 PM Katana > all other swords. The Chinese sword are flimsy and meant for slapping and poking. A common misconception propegated by the Japanese cultural invasion of the 1980s (remember when everyone thought Japanese would be the new universal language of business, and ponytailed New York businessmen peppered their motivational speeches with misused and poorly pronounced Japanese buzzwords?). Katanas are awesome swords, but you're selling jian short. The Chinese have been making steel jian since the 4th century, and fine bronze swords before that. But you're looking to buy something as a decoration, or toy, or to impress people with. You can buy a Katana, which shows people you have disposable income and like trendy things. Perhaps you can get a mount made that also displays both Kill Bill DVDs ;) Or you can buy a jian and show people you enjoy cultural artifacts that hold meaning for you. BATMAN 02-28-2006, 03:20 PM I've yet to see a jian sword that I was impressed with regards to materials and aesthetics. For starters, the tassel needs to go. Dam fucker ain't a dart. And I have doubts that the Chinese was that anal on making the best sword as the Japs. After travelled in China not too long ago, it reaffirms my beliefs that they are more of a culture of just making something good enough so that they can sell them and at the highest profit and/or quantity as possible. The Japs give me the impression that making a top rated sword was more important than the $$$. ComradeGiant 02-28-2006, 03:44 PM These days you're probably right. In the old days the Chinese made some very good weaponry because if they didn't the Mongolians came and fucked their shit up. BATMAN 02-28-2006, 03:45 PM Mongols were busy playing polo with the chinese on their horses. Manntis 02-28-2006, 04:48 PM After travelled in China not too long ago, it reaffirms my beliefs that they are more of a culture of just making something good enough so that they can sell them and at the highest profit and/or quantity as possible. That's 'cause they were showing you the tourist junk :) Let me put it in terms you'll relate to: Scenario A: Chick you wanna seduce: "Nice place you've got here. What's this?" Alain: "A Jian." CYWS: "Ooh. Like in that Kill Bill movie!" Alain: "Sort of. Those were Japanese Katanas. This is Chinese, like me. In my culture, we've been making steel swords like this for almost two thousand years. Keeping it reminds me of where I come from." CYWS: "Neat! I like when people decorate their homes with things that have meaning." Alain: "Let me show you a little statue I have in the bedroom..." Scenario B: CYWS: "Nice place you've got here. What's this?" Alain: "A Katana." CYWS: "Ooh. Like in that Kill Bill movie!" Alain: "Yup." CYWS: "Why do you have one?" Alain: "because they're neat." CYWS: "...oh." Alain: "Hey, I paid a thousand bucks for this!" CYWS: "that's... pretty cool... hey, watch where you're waving that." Alain: "Wanna see the bedroom?" CYWS: "Nah - I gotta work early. I'd better go." BATMAN 02-28-2006, 05:06 PM Smucking Fart..... vrooom305 02-28-2006, 05:24 PM I could easily kill someone with a boken. 16 years of experience... yes that is true. however you do not get the bloody effects that a katana would make. BATMAN 02-28-2006, 06:00 PM anyone want to do a "date scenerio" of a night out with YZF? *conjuring up evil thoughts* aznpoopy 02-28-2006, 08:15 PM Katana > all other swords. The Chinese sword are flimsy and meant for slapping and poking. One hand holding and flapping the wrist is not as potent as grabbing the handle with 2 hands. Besides, this is the closest that I can feel like an ebony homo erectus. Grab a shaft with 2 hands and still have enough shaft for a 3rd hand.......... actually metallurgy was pretty advanced in all the old world cultures. european swords are supposed to be very strong, and they also have complicated martial art systems, that just weren't called martial arts. besides. green destiny could totally pwn a masamune anyday. Tofuball 02-28-2006, 09:21 PM Folded metal . . . tends to be very brittle aznpoopy 02-28-2006, 09:40 PM its not just folded metal i forgot the process but yes, the metal is folded but then the edge is tempered to be extremely hard, while the 'spine' of the blade is very soft to absorb impacts. Supper 02-28-2006, 09:51 PM Folded metal . . . tends to be very brittle hmm... Damascus anyone? DarkAngelKamui 03-01-2006, 05:52 AM Folded metal . . . tends to be very brittle Remind me to show you this video I have on the Japanese process of making a steel sword.... After you see it, it might change your mind in this particular case... :D 2ndGen.Rocket 03-01-2006, 06:17 AM post it! 2ndGen.Rocket 03-01-2006, 06:19 AM I could easily kill someone with a boken. 16 years of experience... Just what the forum needs, another karate fag. 2ndGen.Rocket 03-01-2006, 06:20 AM I could easily kill someone with a baseball bat too. 10 years of experience... Tofuball 03-01-2006, 07:32 AM Remind me to show you this video I have on the Japanese process of making a steel sword.... After you see it, it might change your mind in this particular case... :D I would like to see it. I do know that a properly made sword is not so brittle as any old folded steel object, but how many people make these things properly anymore? aznpoopy 03-01-2006, 09:05 AM yes. there are a handfun of uber japanese forgers in japan that make swords that are sold only to practicing super high lvl japanese sword masters. these swords sell for an assload of money, and they only sell to masters. there was also a video of a sword maker who wanted to test his swords. they stood it up using some kind of vice and fired one of those big ww1 style belt fed machine guns at it. it broke in about 3 seconds. they replayed it in slow motion, and the sword actually cut a dozen or so bullets in half before it broke in half. fcdrifter13 03-01-2006, 09:28 AM I saw that vid it was on the science channel this morning it was a browning 50cal and if I recall correctly chooped 18 in half then started to break up. Damn good is you ask me. BATMAN 03-01-2006, 10:27 AM Just what the forum needs, another karate fag. U wouldn't say that if he were to push the tip of the sword past ur protesting sphincter. Besides he is a FD owner. U should know ur place in the proper pecking order. -Arrogant FD owner BATMAN 03-01-2006, 10:30 AM Great, now the crazy japs will want to play bulletball (where they fire bullets and the batter has a katana). 2ndGen.Rocket 03-02-2006, 08:20 AM U wouldn't say that if he were to push the tip of the sword past ur protesting sphincter. Besides he is a FD owner. U should know ur place in the proper pecking order. -Arrogant FD owner I probably would, seeing as how no one is going to come at me with a sword. And my place is just the same as anyone elses. I don't care if someone owns a 16 year old jap sports car with a bad resale value. Doesn't mean a damn thing to me. I could buy a car 9 times as nice plus alot faster than an FD, no one sees me bragging about it. 2ndGen.Rocket 03-02-2006, 08:21 AM Oh btw, I just got my 2005 company bonus yesterday. Anyone want to sell their POS FD? I'll pay cash. wonner 03-02-2006, 08:40 AM Besides he is a FD owner. U should know ur place in the proper pecking order. -Arrogant FD owner FC>Yugo>FD>FB aznpoopy 03-02-2006, 09:32 AM Oh btw, I just got my 2005 company bonus yesterday. Anyone want to sell their POS FD? I'll pay cash. you're starting to remind me of jimlab... :rofl: 2ndGen.Rocket 03-02-2006, 01:41 PM Yeah I just realized that. I'm not near jimlabs level of wealth, but I'm doing well. And I normally wouldn't say anything like that at all, I just don't like the whole "I own an FD so I have money" bit thrown at me. Owning an FD is not some sort of economic milestone, new Hyundais cost more money. aznpoopy 03-02-2006, 01:53 PM well i'm glad to hear you're doing good. :) go easy on batty, i really think his comment was meant to be taken tongue-in-cheek. i'm pretty sure your project FC cost alot more then most FDs anyway, from what i remember of it. BATMAN 03-02-2006, 02:11 PM anyone here have a $6000/month mortgage? 2ndGen.Rocket 03-02-2006, 02:29 PM well i'm glad to hear you're doing good. :) go easy on batty, i really think his comment was meant to be taken tongue-in-cheek. i'm pretty sure your project FC cost alot more then most FDs anyway, from what i remember of it. I've never had beef with Batman, it's all good. And thanks. How's law school going by the way? aznpoopy 03-02-2006, 05:10 PM boring and busy. but it's better then the prospect of doing my former job for the rest of my life. beggars can't be choosers, i guess. :P wonner 03-02-2006, 05:28 PM anyone here have a $6000/month mortgage? No ones that stupid.;) DarkAngelKamui 03-02-2006, 06:45 PM + motherfucking 1, dude.... LOL Say No To Pistons 03-02-2006, 07:20 PM did you ever fix your car where someone hit it ? havent been here in a while. :werd: do tell jimlab 03-18-2006, 12:41 AM I just don't like the whole "I own an FD so I have money" bit thrown at me. Owning an FD is not some sort of economic milestone, new Hyundais cost more money.So 10+ years after they stopped importing them and after everyone and their kid brother has had a crack at beating the shit out of the majority of the ones left on the road, you can finally afford one? Congratulations. :bigthumb: Being some sort of an economic milestone or not depends a great deal on whether you could have afforded to buy one new or whether you can only now afford to be the 3rd, 4th, or ?? owner of one of the most beat-down examples from the first year of production because they're now cheaper than a Honda Civic. Anyone coming to the FD game this late missed the prestige bus entirely. Some FD owners even look down on other FD owners. Don't take it personally. 2ndGen.Rocket 03-19-2006, 06:32 PM So 10+ years after they stopped importing them and after everyone and their kid brother has had a crack at beating the shit out of the majority of the ones left on the road, you can finally afford one? Congratulations. :bigthumb: Being some sort of an economic milestone or not depends a great deal on whether you could have afforded to buy one new or whether you can only now afford to be the 3rd, 4th, or ?? owner of one of the most beat-down examples from the first year of production because they're now cheaper than a Honda Civic. Anyone coming to the FD game this late missed the prestige bus entirely. Some FD owners even look down on other FD owners. Don't take it personally. No, I could easily afford one new as well. I was making the point that bragging about owning one right now is absolutely retarded because they are more or less worth shit. jimlab 03-19-2006, 07:07 PM No, I could easily afford one new as well.You could easily afford a $44,000 sports car? Good for you. Would it have to be your only car? :) I was making the point that bragging about owning one right now is absolutely retarded because they are more or less worth shit.I'm aware of that, and I agreed with you. Most of them aren't worth much these days. Zero 03-19-2006, 07:10 PM I'm poor and I had a nice FD. Say No To Pistons 03-19-2006, 07:12 PM noes.. rolled.. meddle 03-20-2006, 01:00 AM You could easily afford a $44,000 sports car? Good for you. Would it have to be your only car? :) I'm aware of that, and I agreed with you. Most of them aren't worth much these days. Window sticker on mine was 38,741 in 1993 dollars. Mine was 12.5 back in 99. Uneducated seller+ MAP line off= good value on low mile car. 2ndGen.Rocket 03-20-2006, 07:25 AM You could easily afford a $44,000 sports car? Good for you. Would it have to be your only car? :) I'm aware of that, and I agreed with you. Most of them aren't worth much these days. Yes, and yes it would be my only car. I'm not going to make a purchase like that right now because I am concentrating on paying off my student loans, and finishing up my MBA at the moment. After that's done the only thing I am going to own will be German. BATMAN 03-20-2006, 03:33 PM I bought a $20 Tachi on ebay that is made outta SS. Looks good in person, but that's about it. Terrible balance since it's probably not full tang. I just ordered a katana made outta 9260 steel for $189 on ebay. http://rsknives.co.uk/review.html And will be looking for the short sword made outta traditional Damascus folded blade. This way I can show and tell my friends the difference between a cheap POS, modern steel technology and traditional blade construction. 2ndGen.Rocket 03-20-2006, 04:43 PM As long as it can cut the arms off of intruders jimlab 03-20-2006, 04:57 PM Window sticker on mine was 38,741 in 1993 dollars.Well, someone had to pay the sales tax, license fee, and gas guzzler tax on it. :bigthumb: |
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