How about it? Modded by none other than jimlab. He is the most knowledgeable person on the internet in this area, and quite possibly FD's...

I'm sure some torquecentral guys would join up once word spreads he'd be doing this.

How about it? Modded by none other than jimlab. He is the most knowledgeable person on the internet in this area, and quite possibly FD's...

Are you sure giving Jim the power to smite is a good idea? :bigthumb:

I'm sure some torquecentral guys would join up once word spreads he'd be doing this.

Are you sure? You might want to do a little "temp check" on how well liked Jim is at TC. Plenty of people are still buttsore about the way he and I left.

The same dipshits that yell "SEARCH" for every question asked even though searches usually don't turn up shit but progress threads that require years of digging through to find one fact, never realizing that NEW POSTS keep forums alive?

There's people that'd come here.

There's people that'd come here.

No doubt. Some are already here even. I'm just curious how many swap subforums the community can support. There's already the OEC section at the club, TC, and swapcartech. And it's many of the same people participating at each. Other than giving Jim something to moderate what would be the point of yet another swap forum?

No doubt. Some are already here even. I'm just curious how many swap subforums the community can support. There's already the OEC section at the club, TC, and swapcartech. And it's many of the same people participating at each. Other than giving Jim something to moderate what would be the point of yet another swap forum?
A chance to form an adequate one.

A chance to form an adequate one.

What's wrong with TC? Other than the search Nazis?

I'd vote yes but I have to believe jim is burned out with this stuff

Without a doubt. I'm right there with him too. I wish I would have just sold the damn car when I decided it didn't need a rotary anymore.

he's going to get a litany of dumb questions here

From what I've experienced that wouldn't be any different from his time spent on TC or at the club

dr. drew might be a better choice, he has lots of time on his hands ;)

Hardly. I have an 11 month old.

What's wrong with TC? Other than the search Nazis?

The thing isn't managed?

Why would you have a specialized forums on a certain aspect of cars and not have a FAQ for example? It's just crap over there, 80% of the threads are "look at pics of my shell that i plan to swap", 10% are the same cars for sale 2 weeks later as-is, the othe 10% or somewhat informative.

why don't we make jimlab the moderator of his own section?

then he can prune useless posts at his own leisure

The thing isn't managed?

Sure it is. Pete assured me everything was exactly how he wanted it when I decided to take down all of my posts and leave. :)

Why would you have a specialized forums on a certain aspect of cars and not have a FAQ for example?

Because FAQs take effort to compile and a knowledge base, both of which are/were lacking.

Why not?

I'm still waiting for a RX8 with a LS1, perfect swap IMO. Jimlab, want to dump more money?

Sure it is. Pete assured me everything was exactly how he wanted it when I decided to take down all of my posts and leave. :)



Because FAQs take effort to compile and a knowledge base, both of which are/were lacking.

So where are you going with this 20 question game besides a political move to say "I WAS THERE TOO AND LEFT WITH JIMLAB", because absolutely no one knows who you are.

So where are you going with this 20 question game besides a political move to say "I WAS THERE TOO AND LEFT WITH JIMLAB", because absolutely no one knows who you are.

I think a v8-7 section here will fail. What you're envisioning won't materialize because it requires too much effort.

And I could give a shit if you know who I am. Plenty of people know (or knew) who I am and what I contributed to the swap community. At TC I posted as Drewman. Ask around I'm sure someone will remember me. :rolleyes:

"fail" is subjective. The availability of jimlab's v8-7 knowledge wouldn't "fail" to me. Not to discredit others, and others can answer questions and such, but the guy knows a lot... I haven't seen a good v8-rx7 swap section on any forum, but i have seen several of them filled with countless repetitive questions that seemingly never get answered. The lack of write ups and how-to's is less than fulfilling as well.

If you know your crap, why don't you assist in it? It's much easier to say "it'll fail" than it is to contribute and try to make it grow.

"fail" is subjective. The availability of jimlab's v8-7 knowledge wouldn't "fail" to me.

What makes you think he'd just volunteer everything he knows? He left TC for a reason, and ingratitude was one of them.

Not to discredit others, and others can answer questions and such, but the guy knows a lot...

Lots of us know a lot. I'm finishing up my third LS1 swap right now (2 FDs 1 FC), and I have a disassembled LS7 sitting on the floor that's going into my personal FD when I get the time and Jim's guy finishes our cradle.

I haven't seen a good v8-rx7 swap section on any forum, but i have seen several of them filled with countless repetitive questions that seemingly never get answered.

How does creating a new forum solve that problem if you have the same contributors?

The lack of write ups and how-to's is less than fulfilling as well.
And yet there are plenty of completed swaps rolling around, so people are obviously finishing them. Why do you suppose there aren't any writeups?

If you know your crap, why don't you assist in it? It's much easier to say "it'll fail" than it is to contribute and try to make it grow.

And what do you suppose my motivation to help would be? I helped plenty at TC and got shit on for my efforts. So again, what changes if the participants are the same and only the URL changes?

What makes you think he'd just volunteer everything he knows? He left TC for a reason, and ingratitude was one of them.
'Anything's possible. Time wasn't always a constant." When asked about it, sounds like he's willing to participate, but not dedicate. He's always answered any question I've ever had about rx-7s. Why would he hide knowledge??



Lots of us know a lot. I'm finishing up my third LS1 swap right now (2 FDs 1 FC), and I have a disassembled LS7 sitting on the floor that's going into my personal FD when I get the time and Jim's guy finishes our cradle.
Sweet, you're a new reference if I continue nutting over these particular cars and jim goes AWOL. LS7? Mr moneybags 2??? What'd that run, 35k?



How does creating a new forum solve that problem if you have the same contributors?
I haven't seen many contributions on other forums, and from what i hear, jimlab deleted everything he ever posted before leaving.


And yet there are plenty of completed swaps rolling around, so people are obviously finishing them. Why do you suppose there aren't any writeups?
Because I've never seen any decent ones... about the most decent ones out there are the old ones on grannys, at least that's a BIT of well-constructed information.



And what do you suppose my motivation to help would be? I helped plenty at TC and got shit on for my efforts. So again, what changes if the participants are the same and only the URL changes?
So fucking don't. It doesn't matter. If you need help with your computer, I'll try to help you, because well, that's what I know. I don't give information because I want a pat on the back, steering people in the right direction to fix their problem or helping them fix it is all that I'm shooting for.

If you don't wish to participate, don't. If you do, great, post away... as shown by the poll above though, others agree it'd be a nice attribute of this forum.

'Anything's possible. Time wasn't always a constant." When asked about it, sounds like he's willing to participate, but not dedicate. He's always answered any question I've ever had about rx-7s. Why would he hide knowledge??

Hiding knowledge is different from deciding not to answer questions because you think the person asking isn't worth the effort or time. I'm sure you're familiar with that sort of creature given your time spent over at the club, and now TC.

LS7?

Mostly. There are a few aftermarket parts going into it.

Mr moneybags 2???

Hardly.

What'd that run, 35k?

A little more than $10K for the motor.


I haven't seen many contributions on other forums, and from what i hear, jimlab deleted everything he ever posted before leaving.

So I referenced in my "politcal" statement. I'd contributed quite a bit of wiring info and parts lists that I took down on my way out.

Because I've never seen any decent ones... about the most decent ones out there are the old ones on grannys, at least that's a BIT of well-constructed information.

It's because it takes too much effort to make a writeup, much less a good writeup. When you're done with the car you tend to want to enjoy it.


I don't give information because I want a pat on the back

I didn't say I wanted a pat on the back. But 30 wiring PMs a week with only a handful of thank yous gets old quick

If you don't wish to participate, don't. If you do, great, post away... as shown by the poll above though, others agree it'd be a nice attribute of this forum.

I'm not saying don't create the subforum. I'm saying it's disingenuous to say "Hey we've got Jimlab...all of our questions will get answered". That's hardly fair to Jim, or realistic. If I were Jim I wouldn't want to spend my time here getting peppered with technical questions.

I'm about to ask to have my 3xx,xxx view thread on the club deleted if that tells you anything about how fed up I am with the entire thing... :)

ahhh, if you aren't up for it... it'll go to the wayside. A moderated knowledge base, aka, toss repetitive stupid shit/showboating threads OUT would be very appealing to people looking for the swap, thus helping this site.

I don't mind answering a question now and then, but I'm long past wanting to play technical reference manual for people who end up shitting on you after completing their swap. :)

I'm all for swaps. A car's a car. Make it your own and fuck everyone else.

I don't mind answering a question now and then, but I'm long past wanting to play technical reference manual for people who end up shitting on you after completing their swap. :)

:werd:

What he said. I've no problem answering the odd question when someone gets stuck or confused.

hwy would this forum need a swap section? the only thing the posters here are experts on is bench racing, anime, bible passages, and computers.


How rocking was our rx7 tech section? How much action did the engine managment section get? You talking about an even smaller niche in the community.

How about Jim and Wingsfan give all the info they have on V8 swaps to Zero and he can organize it and post it up here?

hwy would this forum need a swap section? the only thing the posters here are experts on is bench racing, anime, bible passages, and computers.


How rocking was our rx7 tech section? How much action did the engine managment section get? You talking about an even smaller niche in the community.

Point very well taken. lol

Are you sure giving Jim the power to smite is a good idea? :bigthumb:

I think it's the best idea ever.

Anyone know anything about swapping a 13b into a super beetle? I've been thinking about doing this and I was wondering if you guys knew anything about it.

hwy would this forum need a swap section? the only thing the posters here are experts on is bench racing, anime, bible passages, and computers.


How rocking was our rx7 tech section? How much action did the engine managment section get? You talking about an even smaller niche in the community.

That's what I was thinking. If it didn't work on a forum dedicated to the swap, how is it gonna work on a forum dedicated as a place for RX7club.com loungers to escape from Nazi moderation?

How rocking was our rx7 tech section? How much action did the engine managment section get? You talking about an even smaller niche in the community.
As mentioned, I've yet to see an organized forum with accessible knowledge. Rx7club has it for general rx7 questions. With Jimlab moderating it, I'm sure useless threads would get tossed and it'd stay on topic, v8 rx7 discussion, not "look at my car" threads, they can post that in general automotive... more of a technical section only not cluttered by bullshit.

hwy would this forum need a swap section?


to attract users looking to TFL by using info from jimlab, which is a valuable commodity across several forums.

alternatively, to give jimlab a place to organize or document what he knows, answer questions, and give him moderator control over that section.

Not to rain on anyones parade here, but Jimlab already said he had no intrest what-so-ever in doing this so this is all kind of a moot point, isn't it?

No, I said I don't want to be a technical reference manual.

If all that is needed is someone to mod the section, that's not a problem, but I'm not going to take the time to duplicate everything I deleted from Torque Central (and now RX-7 Club) here. I don't mind answering a question now and then, but I have no interest in playing "Mr. Wizard" and answering all the questions of anyone who shows up.

that's pretty understandable.

it would be like a second full time job for little or no personal benefit.

Well if you have to ask someone how to do a V8 swap. You probably shouldn't be doing it.

Well if you have to ask someone how to do a V8 swap. You probably shouldn't be doing it.You're right, most people are born knowing how to splice the wiring from one manufacturer's engine and computer harness into the car of another and how to get all the electronic gauges working properly...

This isn't grafting a 1981 Camaro Z28 with a carb'd 350 onto a Bronco frame that we're talking about here. There's a little more involved than a trip to the local driveline shop.

the real question is, is an RX-7 chassis really the best choice for an expensive engine transplant?

http://www.theforumlounge.com/thread8364-kit-car-with-ls7.html

I've considered putting my LS7 in one of those rather than my FD. The expenses can get out of control in a hurry though. Those Porsche transaxles are $$$.

sell the FD

I've thought about it.

and save up a little cash

Money isn't the real problem, although that's more than I'd like to spend on a hobby. I don't have the 1000+ hours to sink into it.

that thing would be a blast

Yes it would. For the same money I'm not sure I wouldn't rather have a DSR though.

http://www.stohr.com/html/dsr.html

strictly a race car

Obviously. :)

...the GTM would be streetable

Sort of but not really. At 2300# with 600+ hp (my ls7 is cammed and will have longtubes) it would be borderline insane on the street. I'd have to break the law to really enjoy it/use its potential. And kit cars in general aren't particularly comfortable. Not that I wouldn't take it out and beat on it, or turn it down if someone were to give it to me.

the Atom would be a fun track car as well

If someone would create a racing class for it. CSR/DSR already exists.

I've considered putting my LS7 in one of those rather than my FD. The expenses can get out of control in a hurry though. Those Porsche transaxles are $$$.

Tell me about it, I have three right now :P

But I'm sure you're referring to the G50 :P

Thats a sweet transaxle, too pricey for me though!

But I'm sure you're referring to the G50 :P

That seems to be the most popular choice, with the G50-52 being what most people suggest. There's some debate as to whether it would stand up to the torque of an LS7 though. People seem to suggest the G96 series from the GT2 or GT3 for that, which is even more $$$.

http://www.ffcobra.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/f/64/t/000003.html?

The G96/00 was first used in the Carrera 2 in 1999. It is much different from the G96's in the GT2/GT3 which are more like the older G50/53 but cable shift. The base G96/00 (or G96/30 in Carrera 4 models) does not have a starter pocket making it much more difficult to use. The G96/88 (GT2) and G96/50 and G96/96 (GT3) are the ones to get if you are willing to do some fabrication to make the cable shift and trans mount work.

I'd guess that the transaxle from the Carrera GT would be ideal, but they're not exactly easy to get your hands on.

Thats a sweet transaxle, too pricey for me though!

Yup. Depending on how nutso you get they can end up running more than the motor ($12K+)

I'll stick with the YZF-R1 on the track

cheap, fast, fun

I don't do 2 wheels (intentionally). :D

too bad....a steel box just isn't the same

It's good enough. You can go faster on 4 anyways.

Yup. Depending on how nutso you get they can end up running more than the motor ($12K+)When it gets into the $10k+ range, you might as well consider a Quaife 6-speed sequential transaxle and pick whatever ratios you want.

When it gets into the $10k+ range, you might as well consider a Quaife 6-speed sequential transaxle and pick whatever ratios you want.

Got a link? I can't seem to find any information on them other than they exist.

Mendeola, Hewland, and Ricardo all have transaxles once you get into that range as well. Both Hewland and Ricardo have basically unlimited gearing options but are $$$$. Some of the Le Mans series offerings from Hewland are $45K+ :eek:

Got a link? I can't seem to find any information on them other than they exist.http://www.quaifeamerica.com/transmissions/trans_main.htm

http://www.aaroadracing.com/shop.net/product-detail.aspx?prodid=860&catid=130

http://www.quaifeamerica.com/transmissions/trans_main.htm

http://www.aaroadracing.com/shop.net/product-detail.aspx?prodid=860&catid=130

Thanks. The first link was the site I was looking at earlier when I said all I could confirm was that it existed.

$18, 600 is pretty steep, but I suppose it's a pay to play thing.

$18k is chump change for jimbankIsn't that about half of your annual salary? Then yes, that is chump change.

Isn't that about half of your annual salary? Then yes, that is chump change.

ooo Got 'Em!

I have to agree with Yzf about the bikes. I have to admit tho, I wouldn't want to race one, but I really enjoy the open air cruises. Especially on a nice curvy road out in the sticks in the summer.....Good times....